Persona 3 Reload Elizabeth fight Merciless
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- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2024
- has several mistake like accident trigger p2 too early from crit(intent to skip her first megidolan by put her 10k with crit) but fail cause crit put her to 13k too early
sorry for stuttering around phase 3 start, I checking boss pattern.
![Persona 3 Reload - Elizabeth Boss Fight, Diarahan Skip Strat [No Orpheus Telos] [Merciless] [NG]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/TlBjN_AD0mY/mqdefault.jpg)
LMAO ain't no way Elizabeth is doing the Yugi now with her *"DORO! PERSONA CARDO!"* XDD
She is always shouting Draw Persona Cards on Japanese dub ever since PS2 era. The English dub just make it less obvious...
DORO
MONSTA CARDO
I activate MAXX "C". Oh you special summon, here's my Zeus wipe.
@@pettankousei3126 more like a 9 negate firewall dragon field
You're def not an OG P3 player... She said that on japanese dub since 2006. 🙄
THANK YOU SO MUCHHBFOR UPLOADING IVE BEEN WAITING
Finally a video of this fight
Some differences that I've noticed:
- Buff and debuff skills are more widespread.
- More attack move variety among her Personas, with Charges and Concentrates to match.
- Megidolaon no longer does a flat 9,999 damage on the battle's regular turn cycle (though she'll still do it if a Persona breaks the resistance rule, with a new animation to boot!). This is likely mostly due to Infinity's removal.
- New second phase after reaching 13,000 HP, during which she has free access to any Persona in her cycle?
I might be wrong about some of these, still not sure about the new rules of the fight
I guess with fusion spells being tied to Therugys now Elizabeth's Megidoloan aside from the 10k threshold does normal damage instead of max. So that means Infinity isn't in this game.
Hey man, I was looking for this fight since the game released and I wanted to ask, did you do it NG+?
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@@naranciasama?
I'm sure Elizabeth fight is NG+ exclusive. It has been the same case for every persona game including 3 fes
This is new game merciless, I think If you in merciless you can do in first run
@@yu6btemz AFAIK Elizabeth fight is not NG+ exclusive on P3P. You need to have defeated the reaper
If at ANY point you resist, block, absorb or reflect Elizabeth’s attacks(besides blocking Hama and Mudo instant kills with equipment)she will spam Diarahn followed by her Supreme Megidolaon EVERY TURN. Even reflecting her direct attacks with counter, counterstrike or high counter triggers it. So you HAVE to let her heal herself once, then keep fighting normally until she concentrates and uses her Supreme Megidolaon. Survive that, then immediately use the Armageddon Thuergy to defeat her. Otherwise she’ll Diarahn and Supreme Megidolaon every turn.
So, if I understand this, all you absolutely need now is both Endure and Enduring Soul to survive both 9999 megidolaons on top of the usual Armageddon?
How did you manage to block ailments and especially instakill without blocking Dark damage though? Is Resist Dark all you need to do so?
you can do with 1 endure/endure soul, it's possible to skip first megidolaon by put her to 10k before she get chance to cast megidolan(I attemp and failed in video, crit accidently put her to 13k)
I block ailment buy use accessory with null all ailment from shop in bar at night, I use boots that null instance dead from dark type.(don't know where this boots from, it's def possible to do without boot, but you need to guard every dark turn which suck)
I show my built at the end of video at 29:14
@@Naar486
I see, so on top of Armageddon which requires a Star Rank of 10 due to Helel, I need Enduring Soul (and Endure as a failsafe), the shoes from Tanaka's show at the end of November and the necklace from the nightbar shop.
Thank you so much for this; I might actually be able to fight Elizabeth in this version with how much less BS you have to prepare for compared to all the other versions.
good luck, the fight isn't hard at all if you understand the gimmick, def can do without telos@@Brown95P
@@Naar486 The boots come from tanaka's commodities and are therefore missable
Hey thanks for the vid!
I just tried the fight myself, but every rounds she heals for 20k with diarahan and hits me for 9999 with megidolan, any tips?
Did you bring a persona that null her attack attribute or party member?
You have to go in alone, and I didn't even know it was possible to nullify it
@@thanatosxmesiah
if you have a persona that nulls or reflect any attack she does, she gets mad and do this. Also does with armageddon
@@foskispavo8153 ok thanks!
@@plouf986 ah i was thinking of the rule in og one, before you can go with party but she will do diarahan Armageddon.
She has attack phases like fire attack at first (surt) so if your persona is immune to fire at that phase then she will do diarahan Armageddon
Nicely done, Ive been trying this fight without telos, using maxed out Messiah with ice skill, managed to deal 3k damage with Diamond Dust, but she kills me on her second phase (after she heals because her hp drops 10.000 i managed to skip that Megidolaon from below 13.000), could you please explain how her last phase works?
she has 3 pattern in final phase
start with
1st pattern
fire ice>elec wind>holydark>status effect elec
after this she will mix up order become in 2nd pattern
2nd pattern
Ice elec> dark fire >wind holy
then she back to 1st pattern again, 2nd time she finish 1st pattern she will use 3rd pattern(well it's more of 2nd pattern with 1 action add)
3rd pattern
Ice elec> dark fire >wind holy > dark Megidolaon
then back to 1st pattern again
basically she go like this
1st pattern > 2nd pattern > 1st pattern > 3rd pattern loop to starting point
Thank you so much, I've been trying to beat this boss for the last few days and you're the only one who has the correct patterns for the final phase, I recently failed a close attempt because I stayed on Thanatos (repel dark) during a turn I did not expect Alice due to misinformation.
Thanks to your info, I can confirm the following patterns:
PATTERN 1
Turn 1: Surt (Inferno, Tarukaja or Tarunda) and Jack Frost (Diamond Dust, Rakukaja or Rakunda)
Turn 2: Thor (Thunder Reign or God’s Hand) and Cu Chulainn (Panta Rhei, Primal Force or Sukukaja)
Turn 3: Metatron (Sukunda, Kougaon, or Divine Judgement) and Alice (Die for Me! or Eigaon)
Turn 4: Nebiros (Random ailment, usually Sexy Dance) and Thor (God’s Hand or Heat Riser)
PATTERN 2
Turn 1: Jack Frost (Diamond Dust, Rakukaja, and Rakunda) and Thor (Thunder Reign or Tarunda)
Turn 2: Alice (Die for Me! or Eigaon) and Surt (Tarukaja or Brave Blade OR INFERNO)
Turn 3: Cu Chulain (Panta Rhei, Primal Force or Sukukaja) and Metatron (Kougaon or ???)
PATTERN 3
Turn 1: Jack Frost (Diamond Dust, Rakukaja, and Rakunda) and Thor (Thunder Reign or Tarunda)
Turn 2: Alice (Die for Me! or Eigaon) and Surt (Tarukaja or Brave Blade OR Inferno)
Turn 3: Cu Chulain (Panta Rhei, Primal Force or Sukukaja) and Metatron (Kougaon or ???)
Turn 8: Alice (Die for Me!) and Masakado (Megidolaon)
As you said, the pattern order during the final phase is: PATTERN 1 -> PATTERN 2 -> PATTERN 1 -> PATTERN 3 ⟳
@Pxgamer13 what persona do you switch to during light/dark turns?
@@lalter_ during my first attempts i swapped between yurlungur (resist light) and masakado (resist dark). But for my final attempt I decided to equip shoes of bane (null dark instakill) and also went with Orpheus telos (resist all) so no worries about swapping personas. Thats how I finally beat her. Keep in mind that shoes of bane are ok to use in this fight to prevent dark insta kill.
Okay, thank you. I think I'm gonna need either Telos or Level 99 max stats. I did a lot of attempts today with my 58EN Thanatos build + 91ST Siegfried slash build and it's just way too inconsistent. Gonna have to revisit it later.
Besides not having and not needing infinity, does anything else change in this fight?
Taken from OdysseyRPG ruclips.net/video/ZWzMg9zG7RE/видео.html
Elizabeth Turn Order:
1st Turn - With Surt, she uses Maragidyne or any physical attacks. / Severe Fire attack now
2nd Turn - With Jack Frost, she uses Mabufudyne or physical. / Severe Ice attack now
3rd Turn - With Thor, she uses Maziodyne or physical. / Severe Elec attack now
4th Turn - With Cu Chulainn, she uses Magarudyne or physical. / Severe Wind attack now
5th Turn - With Metatron, she uses Mahamaon or physical. / Can be Instakill or magic damage now
6th Turn - With Alice, she uses Mamudoon or physical. / Can be Instakill or magic damage now
7th Turn - With Nebiros, she uses any bad status ailment magics or physical.
8th Turn - With Masakado, she uses Megidolaon / *no longer does 9999, so Infinity is not needed*
Deal 9,600 damage to her, after this it pretty much comes down to luck on whether she hits herself from an auto attack on her second turn or not. Once she does she will be weak enough to finish off with Armageddon, if she reaches 50% HP on her turn (she has 20,000 HP) she will just heal to full with Diarahan and then it's game over.
I never beat her in fes and never played p3p so I can't comment what is difference sorry, tho I check several guide they not mention 5 turn count down when she hit 13k hp.
Sorry one more question. Which guide did you use to max all of the linked episodes and social links in one playthrough? I see you have orpheus telos. Most of them only cover 100 percent which would mean doing 2 playthroughs for orpheus telos which is definitely not something i want to do.
i'm not complete link episode in this run, telos only need max social link. it does need ken link episode for metatron but ken is night so it's easy to complete it.
Do you know what triggers Elizabeth to cast charge, concentrate, and next turn two 9999 megidolaons? I make sure to not null/repel/drain any of her attacks but I'm dying to this. It has happened before and after the 50% hp diarahan so not sure what is going on
can you give a bit more detail? is this happen when she hit 13k hp?
I know this will happen when her hp reach 13k, but it only happen before first diarahan, never saw it happen after diarahan
@@Naar486 You are right. The one that was supposedly after diarahan was a missplay by me that I didn't catch at the time. I finally beat her without using orpheus telos and uploaded it to my channel :)
Also, she just decides to kill me at 75%. She uses Pixie Megidoloan, then switches to Nebiros, then Thor for two turns, then back to Pixie and proceeds to spam Megido until I am dead. No idea what I am doing wrong.
this happen when she hit 13k hp, you have 5 turn to put her to 10k to stop it
@@Naar486 good to know, thanks
What did you use for equipment?
I show at the end but it's pretty much Lucifer sword and armor, boots that null instance death dark but not null dark, null status effects accessory
is this ng+? Can Orpheus Thelos be summoned on 1st play through?
If it's like the originals then this fight is normally ng+ exclusive alongside orpheus telos
Yes, you can
@@themountainman1480 Telos is not NG+ only
I got Orpheus telos on jan 30 this fight is no longer ng+ exclusive
@@NihilistCoomerLord Never has been. You just had to max out all SLs in one playthrough
Wait how did you block die for me wouldn’t that cause megadolan
Check at the end, one of his his equipment blocks instant kill.
block status effect or instant kill is fine, just don't block dark element
What blocks insta kills
shoes of bane, I think it's from tanaka. I post my gear&persona built at the end of video at 29:12@@switchbro6622
1 more thing, do you know if she has a hidden almighty resistance or not
Are the rules for this fight the same as they were back then, or is it a bit more lenient?
the rule is mostly same, no reflect/null. but they make so homunclus can't tank alice die for me so you either guard or has boots that null instance death but not null dark.
when she hit 13k you need to put her to 10k in 5 turn or she 9999 twice.
@@Naar486 So pretty much the same, but Masakado works a bit differently, from what I've seen. Hoo boy...
High counter is no longer allowed, also
I don’t understand… why a critical does’t let you have a second turn?
I simply assume it's because Elizabeth is like superboss of the game so the game make some mechanic not work for your side.
What accessory did you use? Divine Pilar?
Amritite Necklace for null status effect
@@Naar486 so happy to beat her in hard mode. I used divine pillar instead and used instaheal skill for each of my personas. worked like a charm!
Does anyone know why I keep getting Diarahan + Megidolaon on turn 1?
I am not using a Persona that nulls, repels or absorbs neither fire nor slash during that turn, since she's supposed to use Surt who only has damaging skills of those 2 elements.
My armor nulls light INSTA KILL and my shoes null dark INSTA KILL, not light/dark overall, and even if I unequip them, I keep getting Diarahan/Megidolaon.
Neither my sword nor my accessory reduce, null, absorb or repel any element.
The date is 1/5.
Edit: Solved on replies.
Did you have party members?
@@Thentavius the door cannot physically open if you have party members, so no, I did not
Update: For anyone that might have a similar problem, I figured out what was causing my issue. I collected a minor arcana cup card from shuffle time in my previous battle that granted me Tetrakarn at the start of my next fight, which breaks Elizabeth's rules and causes 9999 Megidolaon on turn 1. Simply rush/escape any random shadow in floor 1 or wherever to get rid of it.
In what part you found the card firm stance :-:
I didn't found firm stance, I just inherit it from Asura
THEY CENSOR THE "DIE FOR ME"? OH COME ON!
Edit: It has been enough censorship on it already.
At what timestamp did they censor this?
@@imoutocompalex 6:17
is it really “censorship” if the animation has had several different iterations over the years? lol
@@NekkoBlue TBH I don't care too much about "censorship" but I do care a lot about Nerfs. They over nerfed her in Reload. Hope she gets buffed soon.
how many tries did it take you to beat her?
probably like 20 try or something, I actually start blind lol, never beat her before so don't know about rule and stuff, 13k hp dps race also make me stuck for a while cause I don't know I can use theurgy there for push damage. always tho I need to save it for armageddon
die on final part twice cause she use new pattern and put dark in 2 random spot.
How do you have 800hp? NG+?
just a lot of hp from shuffle, i'm in merciless so even if in ng+ it's not carry over
26:53 why he say lucifer when summon helel
I'm not christian and never read bible, but when I check google it's said Lucifer hebrew name is helel so I assume both are same person.
Helel is called Lucifel in Japanese
How do you get to fight her?
Do all requests for her, defeat the Reaper and then fight her
You can do it in your first play but must likely be only viable for you in NG+
Ohhhh man, I'm orgasming hearing the beauty Japanese dub, all big channels of Persona use E dub like a whiny betas