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I didn't found firm stance, I just inherit it from Asura

Amritite Necklace for null status effect

@@Naar486 so happy to beat her in hard mode. I used divine pillar instead and used instaheal skill for each of my personas. worked like a charm!

this happen when she hit 13k hp, you have 5 turn to put her to 10k to stop it

@@Naar486 good to know, thanks

just a lot of hp from shuffle, i'm in merciless so even if in ng+ it's not carry over

i'm not complete link episode in this run, telos only need max social link. it does need ken link episode for metatron but ken is night so it's easy to complete it.

I simply assume it's because Elizabeth is like superboss of the game so the game make some mechanic not work for your side.

Did you have party members?

@@Thentavius the door cannot physically open if you have party members, so no, I did not

Update: For anyone that might have a similar problem, I figured out what was causing my issue. I collected a minor arcana cup card from shuffle time in my previous battle that granted me Tetrakarn at the start of my next fight, which breaks Elizabeth's rules and causes 9999 Megidolaon on turn 1. Simply rush/escape any random shadow in floor 1 or wherever to get rid of it.

I'm not christian and never read bible, but when I check google it's said Lucifer hebrew name is helel so I assume both are same person.

Helel is called Lucifel in Japanese

can you give a bit more detail? is this happen when she hit 13k hp? I know this will happen when her hp reach 13k, but it only happen before first diarahan, never saw it happen after diarahan

@@Naar486 You are right. The one that was supposedly after diarahan was a missplay by me that I didn't catch at the time. I finally beat her without using orpheus telos and uploaded it to my channel :)

you can do with 1 endure/endure soul, it's possible to skip first megidolaon by put her to 10k before she get chance to cast megidolan(I attemp and failed in video, crit accidently put her to 13k) I block ailment buy use accessory with null all ailment from shop in bar at night, I use boots that null instance dead from dark type.(don't know where this boots from, it's def possible to do without boot, but you need to guard every dark turn which suck) I show my built at the end of video at 29:14

@@Naar486 I see, so on top of Armageddon which requires a Star Rank of 10 due to Helel, I need Enduring Soul (and Endure as a failsafe), the shoes from Tanaka's show at the end of November and the necklace from the nightbar shop. Thank you so much for this; I might actually be able to fight Elizabeth in this version with how much less BS you have to prepare for compared to all the other versions.

good luck, the fight isn't hard at all if you understand the gimmick, def can do without telos@@Brown95P

@@Naar486 The boots come from tanaka's commodities and are therefore missable

Do all requests for her, defeat the Reaper and then fight her You can do it in your first play but must likely be only viable for you in NG+

probably like 20 try or something, I actually start blind lol, never beat her before so don't know about rule and stuff, 13k hp dps race also make me stuck for a while cause I don't know I can use theurgy there for push damage. always tho I need to save it for armageddon die on final part twice cause she use new pattern and put dark in 2 random spot.

she has 3 pattern in final phase start with 1st pattern fire ice>elec wind>holydark>status effect elec after this she will mix up order become in 2nd pattern 2nd pattern Ice elec> dark fire >wind holy then she back to 1st pattern again, 2nd time she finish 1st pattern she will use 3rd pattern(well it's more of 2nd pattern with 1 action add) 3rd pattern Ice elec> dark fire >wind holy > dark Megidolaon then back to 1st pattern again basically she go like this 1st pattern > 2nd pattern > 1st pattern > 3rd pattern loop to starting point

Thank you so much, I've been trying to beat this boss for the last few days and you're the only one who has the correct patterns for the final phase, I recently failed a close attempt because I stayed on Thanatos (repel dark) during a turn I did not expect Alice due to misinformation. Thanks to your info, I can confirm the following patterns: PATTERN 1 Turn 1: Surt (Inferno, Tarukaja or Tarunda) and Jack Frost (Diamond Dust, Rakukaja or Rakunda) Turn 2: Thor (Thunder Reign or God’s Hand) and Cu Chulainn (Panta Rhei, Primal Force or Sukukaja) Turn 3: Metatron (Sukunda, Kougaon, or Divine Judgement) and Alice (Die for Me! or Eigaon) Turn 4: Nebiros (Random ailment, usually Sexy Dance) and Thor (God’s Hand or Heat Riser) PATTERN 2 Turn 1: Jack Frost (Diamond Dust, Rakukaja, and Rakunda) and Thor (Thunder Reign or Tarunda) Turn 2: Alice (Die for Me! or Eigaon) and Surt (Tarukaja or Brave Blade OR INFERNO) Turn 3: Cu Chulain (Panta Rhei, Primal Force or Sukukaja) and Metatron (Kougaon or ???) PATTERN 3 Turn 1: Jack Frost (Diamond Dust, Rakukaja, and Rakunda) and Thor (Thunder Reign or Tarunda) Turn 2: Alice (Die for Me! or Eigaon) and Surt (Tarukaja or Brave Blade OR Inferno) Turn 3: Cu Chulain (Panta Rhei, Primal Force or Sukukaja) and Metatron (Kougaon or ???) Turn 8: Alice (Die for Me!) and Masakado (Megidolaon) As you said, the pattern order during the final phase is: PATTERN 1 -> PATTERN 2 -> PATTERN 1 -> PATTERN 3 ⟳

@Pxgamer13 what persona do you switch to during light/dark turns?

@@lalter_ during my first attempts i swapped between yurlungur (resist light) and masakado (resist dark). But for my final attempt I decided to equip shoes of bane (null dark instakill) and also went with Orpheus telos (resist all) so no worries about swapping personas. Thats how I finally beat her. Keep in mind that shoes of bane are ok to use in this fight to prevent dark insta kill.

Okay, thank you. I think I'm gonna need either Telos or Level 99 max stats. I did a lot of attempts today with my 58EN Thanatos build + 91ST Siegfried slash build and it's just way too inconsistent. Gonna have to revisit it later.

the rule is mostly same, no reflect/null. but they make so homunclus can't tank alice die for me so you either guard or has boots that null instance death but not null dark. when she hit 13k you need to put her to 10k in 5 turn or she 9999 twice.

@@Naar486 So pretty much the same, but Masakado works a bit differently, from what I've seen. Hoo boy...

High counter is no longer allowed, also

I never beat her in fes and never played p3p so I can't comment what is difference sorry, tho I check several guide they not mention 5 turn count down when she hit 13k hp.

At what timestamp did they censor this?

​@@imoutocompalex 6:17

is it really “censorship” if the animation has had several different iterations over the years? lol

@@NekkoBlue TBH I don't care too much about "censorship" but I do care a lot about Nerfs. They over nerfed her in Reload. Hope she gets buffed soon.

She is always shouting Draw Persona Cards on Japanese dub ever since PS2 era. The English dub just make it less obvious...

DORO MONSTA CARDO

I activate MAXX "C". Oh you special summon, here's my Zeus wipe.

@@pettankousei3126 more like a 9 negate firewall dragon field

You're def not an OG P3 player... She said that on japanese dub since 2006. 🙄

Check at the end, one of his his equipment blocks instant kill.

block status effect or instant kill is fine, just don't block dark element

What blocks insta kills

shoes of bane, I think it's from tanaka. I post my gear&persona built at the end of video at 29:12@@switchbro6622

1 more thing, do you know if she has a hidden almighty resistance or not

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@@naranciasama?

I'm sure Elizabeth fight is NG+ exclusive. It has been the same case for every persona game including 3 fes

This is new game merciless, I think If you in merciless you can do in first run

@@yu6btemz AFAIK Elizabeth fight is not NG+ exclusive on P3P. You need to have defeated the reaper

If it's like the originals then this fight is normally ng+ exclusive alongside orpheus telos

Yes, you can

@@themountainman1480 Telos is not NG+ only

I got Orpheus telos on jan 30 this fight is no longer ng+ exclusive

@@NihilistCoomerLord Never has been. You just had to max out all SLs in one playthrough

Did you bring a persona that null her attack attribute or party member?

You have to go in alone, and I didn't even know it was possible to nullify it @@thanatosxmesiah

if you have a persona that nulls or reflect any attack she does, she gets mad and do this. Also does with armageddon

@@foskispavo8153 ok thanks!

@@plouf986 ah i was thinking of the rule in og one, before you can go with party but she will do diarahan Armageddon. She has attack phases like fire attack at first (surt) so if your persona is immune to fire at that phase then she will do diarahan Armageddon

I show at the end but it's pretty much Lucifer sword and armor, boots that null instance death dark but not null dark, null status effects accessory

2 thousand billion +++