If your favorite adventure game was from before the year 2000, it might be in the first half of this series, Classic Adventure Games: ruclips.net/video/qkMTS8NvwQA/видео.html Games: (by order of appearance) 0:09 - Grim Fandango 0:16 - Gabriel Knight 3 0:20 - King's Quest VII 0:25 - Escape from Monkey Island 0:30 - Sam & Max Freelance Police (Cancelled) 0:41 - Syberia 1:45 - The Longest Journey 2:24 - Dreamfall: The Longest Journey 2:39 - Omikron: The Nomad's Soul 3:13 - Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney 3:18 - Professor Layton & The Curious Village 3:30 - The Portopia Serial Murder Case 3:42 - Mystery House 4:00 - Suisho no Dragon 4:12 - Snatcher 4:18 - Policenauts 4:21 - Clock Tower 4:53 - Kamaitachi no Yoru 5:15 - Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney (start of segment) 6:57 - King's Quest V 7:09 - Ace Attorney: Trials & Tribulations 7:30 - Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney 7:34 - Ace Attorney: Spirit of Justice 7:48 - Professor Layton & The Curious Village (start of segment) 8:09 - Professor Layton vs Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney 8:22 - Dragon Quest 8:25 - Shiren The Wanderer 8:31 - 428 Shibuya Scramble 8:34 - Nine Hours Nine Persons Nine Doors 9:19 - Virtue's Last Reward 9:31 - Danganronpa 10:50 - Indigo Prophecy 11:18 - Heavy Rain 11:39 - Myst V 11:48 - Nancy Drew: The White Wolf of Icicle Creek 11:56 - Nancy Drew: Curse of Blackmoor Manor 12:21 - Wallace & Gromit (Telltale) 12:26 - Bone (Telltale) 12:38 - Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People 12:40 - Sam & Max Save the World 13:01 - Puzzle Agent 13:07 - Tales of Monkey Island 13:20 - Back to the Future (Telltale) 13:26 - Jurrasic Park (Telltale) 13:54 - The Walking Dead (Telltale) 15:04 - Full Throttle 15:18 - Monkey Island 2 15:26 - Kentucky Route Zero 16:20 - Broken Age 17:46 - Moebius 17:50 - Leisure Suit Larry Reloaded 17:51 - Spaceventure 17:52 - Broken Sword 5 17:54 - Tesla Effect 18:00 - Thimbleweed Park 18:28 - The Wolf Among Us 18:38 - Game of Thrones (Telltale) 18:41 - Tales From the Borderlands 18:42 - Minecraft Story Mode 18:43 - Batman (Telltale) 18:44 - Guardians of the Galaxy (Telltale) 18:49 - The Walking Dead Season 2 (Telltale) 19:56 - The Walking Dead Season 3 (Telltale) 20:28 - Stranger Things (Telltale) (Cancelled) 21:15 - Machinarium 21:20 - Chuchel 21:23 - Life is Strange 21:25 - Gone Home 21:26 - Firewatch 21:27 - Oxenfree 21:28 - The Stanley Parable 21:30 - Dear Esther 21:31 - Tacoma 21:32 - Edith Finch 21:43 - Steins Gate 21:44 - Hatoful Boyfriend 21:45 - Oh...wouldn't you like to know? 21:47 - Doki Doki Literature Club 21:55 - Botanicula 21:56 - Deponia 21:57 - Gemini Rue 21:58 - Resonance 22:04 - Detective Grimoire 22:06 - Ghost Trick 22:07 - The Witness 22:08 - Her Story 22:09 - The Room 22:18 - Hotel Dusk 22:28 - King's Quest: A Knight to Remember
@@huytungnguyen119 Top left - Panzermadels, A Tank Dating Simulator Top middle - Uhhhh some sakura game maybe Top right - Ace Attorney Bottom left - Professor Layton Bottom middle - Nekopara Bottom right - John Cena Sexy High School Adventure Better late than never
Next to what is obviously NekoPara, which is under what I think is Sakura Spirit. I have no idea why Ace Attorney and Professor Layton are there and censored too lmao
honestly im really hoping for a zero escape danganronpa crossover, forexample that disasterous event mentioned at the end of the third zero escape game could be the tragedy from danganronpa, that would be amazing to have both time line branches and murder mystery debates rolled in the same game
Might be tough because V3 left us with many unanswered questions, but it does pull the series in the direction of parallel universes and such. And it would only be tough in terms of story, plot, or lore as the games are done by Spike Chunsoft. In fact if you remember, the original Danganronpa game was supposed to run on a mis/trust system that was later scrapped and brought into VLR with the branching paths of the AB game.
I think what really sold me at the end of this video was you mentioning some rather unknown games that I love. Deponia, Ghost Trick, The Room, all of these are rather niche but you listed them all, and it was really great to watch this love letter to the exact kind of game I've began loving in the past few years, not just those 3 I mentioned but also all the wonderful visual novels. So thank you for this video.
8:08 I've got such a soft spot for Professor Layton vs Phoenix Wright... yeah it takes the most off-putting elements of both series and mashes them together in a ludicrously bizarre way, but hot DAMN that medieval witch-trial aesthetic rocks my socks off! :D
“It takes the most off-putting elements of both series and mashes them together in a ludicrously bizarre way” is such a GREAT way to describe that game, well put 😂
RUclips has been recommending Ace Attorney remixes to me left and right. Today, this video, with this exact thumbnail, has been posted. Today, on the day of the Game Awards 2019, today the last character of the first Smash Bros dlc pass will be revealed. Today, the stars are aligning for him. The lawyer. “Phoenix Wright defends the championship” _epic pointing at screen_
Return of the Obra Dinn is another fantastic game that takes its roots in the adventure genre! It might just be one of if not the best detective games ever made and it's really awesome to see the genre continue to innovate
You have no clue how much you made my day by mentioning ghost trick. Also talking about how adventure games are alive and well with the main theme from the best professor layton is real nice ;)
THANK YOU for mentioning HerInteractive!! This is the only video I’ve seen talking about the modern age of adventure games that acknowledged the Nancy Drew series as one of the few stragglers that was able to keep momentum after the “death” of adventure games. Highly recommend them if anyone is curious! There’s 30+ games out there so you have plenty of options. Lol
This is my favorite video of yours so far. My favorite game series put under the microscope in your classic, polished fashion. Thanks man, this a treat!
Professor Layton was my very first game. It was amazing. Even though as a child I had some real problems with a few puzzles. And the spinoff game with Phoenix got me into that one, so ... yeah. I love those games. Danganronpa is also awesome.
Tycho Wozniaki That’s the exact progression that happened to me. Professor Layton got me into Phoenix Wright. Phoenix Wright got me into DanganRonpa. XD Now DanganRonpa is getting me into Zero Escape. The first game, 999 is pretty fantastic. Convoluted as all hell, but somehow extremely clever as well.
Aw man I love this selection of games. I have to thank my mom for making Prof Layton and the Diabolical Box my first video game ever, and growing up with a DS/3DS meant that a lot of these games were actually my late childhood/early teens favorites. The entire Layton series, Ace Attorney, Zero Escape, Ghost Trick...
8:14 I instantly notice the track "Ternary Game" playing and I get nostalgic about 999 Then, I think to myself: "Oh yeah! That was another great adventure game." Nice foreshadowing and amazing video overall!!! ^^
I platinumed this back soon after it came out and completely LOVED it. It was my favorite game of 2019. I’ve been thinking for a while now about replaying it, and now seeing your comment feels like a sign.
To this day I will not forgive the fact that if you missed the rather well-hidden cutters in the library in Danger at Every Corner (the one in the movie studio), you could not get them later. And if you had no cutters, you cannot win an encounter later on, which leads to death and a need to start again. Boy was I angry when I found out.
Garr_Inc I wonder if the name is different depending on the country, because if you’re talking about the one at the television studio I know it as Stay Tuned for Danger. Lol
me: _sees pwaa in the thumbnail + title_ "ahh, I'm glad Phoenix is here but Layton probably didn't..." also me: *_hears curious village theme_* "yESSSSSSSSSS"
I'm surprised he didn't even mention kindergarten. It's an incredible game and the groundhog's day gimmick makes it feel very special and the end of the game feels so climactic because you went around befriending other students and collecting spedcial items to finally complete the main goal and save the missing students.
Dude i loved that video. I love Zero Escape Virtues Last reward, its legit my favorite game. Ace Attorney is soooo nice too and Puzzle Agent was fun with its story. VNs are so great and it still bites me that Dysfunctional System didnt get a secont game.
I loved VLR! It definitely Had some weak points, like the big blocks of repeated text, and the occasional mandatory fail-state parts of the plot, but I thought it was the best balanced game in terms of narrative and puzzle gameplay. So many mysteries! So many options! I personally found that, while 999 had a great story, the puzzles were too easy to really be fun to work through. And that ending! Realizing that you’re essentially stuck in this narrative loop, one that you have no true way of resolving until the next game. It doesn’t feel like a cheap cliffhanger, cause the game doesn’t really truly end there. You’re just stuck there, looking at this timeline in some desperate attempt to find some untread path where maybe, just maybe you can find the path where things turn out okay. But it isn’t there. All you can really do is start this whole cycle all over again.
Really surprised that Hiveswap wasn't discussed as I think that was an important part of learning the setbacks of Kickstarter development for adventure games.
Takoma and Edith Finch are SO GOOD. I always loved adventure games, but was usually more focused on the puzzled. I never thought I would be so in love with those modern occidental spins on novels, but I did. Both Takoma and Edith Finch have a whole world of stories that make you hungry for exploration and fulfill all your expectations, with clever mechanics, interesting characters, well paced development, amazing graphics (shout out also to Takoma's physics) and most importantly, REALLY fun gameplay. I played those games more than once, and the second time I played them my young brother got curious and actually set by my side and watched the entire run for both games, and to this day we both laugh and talk about memorable experiences we had playing them.
you won me over with the lost future theme also good to note that more and more visual novels are being officially translated for english audiences, including a lot of releases/remasters - it's a much, much bumpier road here because this is catering to a niche audience within a niche audience, but it's happening slowly
Remember my time playing Professor Layton back when I had 13 years old, some puzzles were so hard and maths never had been my strong point, so I would chase my teachers for their help to solve the puzzles XDD still need to play the 3DS games, but boy, I had so much fun with those games, also I cried a lot with the story, specially with The Lost Future, OMG I cried so hard at the end
Nowdays, "adventure game" isn't a genre anymore, is a mix of elements applicable in majority of established genres, is almost imposible to make a successful game based only on the "adventure games" elements.
I love how Design Doc decides to just flex on us at the end by listing or showing every adventure game out there...and yet it almost feels like there's enough in that little excerpt just to do a third video highlighting all these different games and what makes them unique.
I like that the Adventure game genre almost mirrors the way life works. There's decision making, problem solving, and all sorts of interactions. They're also technically the first games many of us have ever played! (Humongous Entertainment)
Emocia Those Blues Clues games from HE got me into Scooby Doo from The Learning Company. Then I got into Nancy Drew from Her Interactive. Then I got into Professor Layton from Level 5. Then I got into Ace Attorney from Capcom. Then I got into DanganRonpa from Spike Chunsoft. Now I’m into Zero Escape. And that’s how I went from looking for blue paw prints to using math to unlock death bracelets. 😂
Someone was so close to speaking about HOTEL DUSK AND LAST WINDOW! Fantastic overview on adventure games! Maybe now the chances of someone touching upon the great works from Developer Cinq have increased.
The Darkside Detective is a fantastic indie point-and-click adventure that came out recently from Spooky Doorway. There's basically no pixel-hunting because the pixels are so big, haha. It has really low resolution pixel art, which is part of what makes it so endearing. The short case lengths helps keep everything fresh. The humorous banter between the Detective McQueen and his sidekick Dooley is probably the best part, followed by the silly, but still quite sensible solutions and recurring characters.
I loved this. I grew up playing professor layton and later finding danganronpa and 999 to now where I play things like what remains of edith finch, and Tacoma. I loved how this history lesson felt so personal. I love how comprehensive your video was and I want to play more adventure games now. :)
Love this video! It actually made me change how I think about some of my favorite games of recent years: Will A Wonderful World, Edith Finch, Tacoma , Heavy Rain, Until Dawn, ect. I never really thought of these games as adventure games (I was raised on a heavy dose of the Myst franchise and Grim Fandango) but yeah these games are really a modern extension of the original point and click adventure games.
The Zero Escape series is just so, so good. It has its narrative hiccups here and there (only natural given how heady and head-scratcher-y it gets), but the end result is a phenomenal roller coaster ride of shocking revelation after shocking revelation. I love it to pieces.
As a kid, I remember seeing Sam & Max, and Grim Fandango, and thinking they looked really fun to play (yes, I'm old). However, after having played games like Phoenix Wright, Hotel Dusk (which is one of my all-time favorite games), and other modern adventure games, I've come to realize that what I enjoy most about these kinds of games are the stories that they tell, rather than the mechanics of the point-and-click adventure. I'm so glad that the genre never completely disappeared, but rather changed itself for the better. Thank you for covering this topic!
I think a lot of issues with genres "dying off" is the very concept of genres, and how that concept limits the creativity of many designers. It's like a checklist or template or mold for designers to fill. Of course, I'm not saying we should dismiss the concept of genres, or that we shouldn't think about them, but when you're designing a game, I hope that you at least _try_ to look outside the box, as difficult as that may be. How many games do you know that challenge or defy genres as we know them?
That tonal rollercoaster at the end was really fun. I had never really consciously thought of VNs, walking sims, or games like Stanley Parable, as branches of Adventure Games before. Now, it seems so obvious I feel stupid for not noticing.
Did you play the sequel, Broken Window? It's pretty much just as good, and an obvious continuation from the first. I'm nearing the end of it but finding it difficult to keep going because I hate for a good game like this to end. If you're looking for solid, fun, not-clunky point-and-click games, you may also try Still Life and the sequel, Still Life 2. Unlike some other "sequels," Still Life 2 is a sequel that was obviously hinted at in the first game, and finishes the story. You can buy physical copies for the PC, but because the games are so old, you have to do some work to get them functional unless you're running Windows XP. You can buy the games on Steam now, so that's probably the option for most people. I just like having physical copies, and the boxes for these two games are pretty sweet.
Thanks for the video! It is a very good history rundown of the genre. Though from my perspective it is weird that you mentioned European games without mentioning Germany at all (unless I somehow missed it, but saw about TLJ, France, and then it was about Japan) which pretty much single handedly kept the classic point and click adventure market alive for years, in Europe at least. Tim Schafer even once joked how adventure games exist in our dreams, our memories, and Germany :D To be fair, not all of them saw English translation, a bunch received localization only for languages like Russian, French, Polish, Czech, countries that were still really interested in the genre, but a lot of English releases too. You mentioned Deponia at the end, which is from one of the main german adventure game developers. And while in US adventure games have collapsed, in Europe they never died, with a ton of classic point and click adventure games still releasing in the span between the years 2000 and 2012. Mostly thanks to Germany :) so that country is an important part of adventure game history.
Great video! Gotta drop few of my personal favourites of modern, but still really classically designed adventure game gems which weren't featured in the video: Kathy Rain, Whispers of a Machine, The Book of Unwritten Tales series, The Whispered World, The Darkside Detective, Lost Horizon, Secret Files series, Blackwell series, Technobabylon and A New Beginning. There has also been quite a resurrection of hidden object adventures, which I think in a sense the mentioned The Room series belong into as well. My Brother Rabbit and The New York Mysteries series have been really good as well.
I'm a little disappointed that you didn't even mention AI: The Somnium Files, an excellent murder mystery adventure game from Spike Chunsoft. It's amazing and honestly probably my favorite game of the year (Though I admittedly haven't played that many new games this year...). Still, a lot of my favorite series got some representation here. Danganronpa, Ace Attorney, Professor Layton... All fantastic series that I could not be happier about for their existence.
Flover, Sun, Rain Another Code: Two Memories (aka Trace Memory in the US) and Another Code: R - A Journey into Lost Memories Hotel Dusk and Last Window: The Secret of Cape West (at least you showed it at 22:17) just a name a few more
I am so happy you bring out these franchises to broader audiences. I was a great fan of almost all of them for a long time now. Good tosee Hotel Dusk, even if it is nit mentioned directly :)
im happy everytime i see my boy layton getting mentioned, that series is what brought me to play so many of the games you mentioned, loved this video :D
I think some of the examples here overshadowed how integrated puzzles were in some of the classics To every "hitting yeti with pie" in kq5 there was a completely organic and naturally integrated to the game in kq6 such as the gnome guardians puzle
I think the recent games by Pendulo Studio deserve a mention here. Especially 'Yesterday: Origins', and 'Next Big Thing' have given me new hope for the point-and-click genre.
Danganronpa Ace Attorney Zero Escape Profeeser Layton and even Ghost Trick (it's Awesome but I thought no one know about it) I like this genre way more than I intialy thought
He mentioned the Nancy Drew games!!! Those things were my childhood, and I loved playing them with my friends. We would constantly come up with theories and would point out things the other missed. Those were good times loll
@@Little1Cave I really liked the first one, but sometimes the Trials get a little too "wild" for my taste, I would prefer having unlimited time to really think about the Statements and Arguments
Nice to see somebody realise that the Japanese Adventure game actually exists. Well researched Video Design Doc. (also shout out to the main theme of Proffessor Layton and the Lost/Unwound Future at the end.)
Shame there's no mention of the Myst series beyond a short clip, considering those were a pretty big thing in the 90s and probably the only adventure games I could properly play. I always get stuck with dialogue and inventory puzzles, but the simple setup of "here's a machine, get it to work", now that I can deal with.
these videos made me realize that the specific genre of games i seem to love are adventure games! i never knew what name to put to it before besides "visual novel", event though the spectrum was broader than that
Half way through the video and having said that this video consumed much time, I thought you wouldn't mention the indie scene. I totally agree that they are the ones keeping the genre alive nowadays. Just wanted to say that this is (for me) your best video, I think you said everything that had to be said and the video in general is very well paced, it didn't feel like 23 mins at all. Thanks for everything you do, this is one of my favourite RUclips channels for video game in depth analysis
Worth noting that the whole time there was ongoing text-adventure work. It was mostly hobbyists, but the same people made contributions to to more mainstream commercial work and more recently commercial text adventures, both parser based and more recently choice driven in Twine and similar engines.
I love adventure games. I played Sam and Max and Monkey Island with my dad, and then I played through the Ace Attorney trilogy with my sister. Professor Layton is one of my favorite series ever. I think adventure games are great to play with a friend :)
BROKEN AGE! I've been trying to remember its name for weeks! It's one of those games that you don't actively remember, but rather floats in the edges of your memory, occasionally popping up in a quick "hey, remember this thing exists?" thought and vanishing back into the void as soon as it shows up.
I came across these two Adventure game videos as I am aspiring to make a simple Point and Click game using Ren'py. I didn't know Visual Novels have its roots from classic Adventure games when I chose Ren'py. As a solo indie nobody, I don't think I have the resources nor the writing chops to write full-blown stories, so I'm trying to go for something I could feasibly make in my humble beginnings. Also, these videos were very enlightening. Recognizing some names like Chunsoft, Square and ahem Quantic Dream lit me up. I didn't even know Quantic Dream made a game before Fahrenheit.
I have a few takeaways from these two videos that I can use in my soon-to-make game. One is to find a way to prevent pixel hunting, another is not to give players time pressure for puzzles. I also shouldn't create obscure nonsense puzzles that would require the player to pull up a guide, but the challenge is to do that while not making the problems boringly easy to the player.
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If your favorite adventure game was from before the year 2000, it might be in the first half of this series, Classic Adventure Games: ruclips.net/video/qkMTS8NvwQA/видео.html
Games: (by order of appearance)
0:09 - Grim Fandango
0:16 - Gabriel Knight 3
0:20 - King's Quest VII
0:25 - Escape from Monkey Island
0:30 - Sam & Max Freelance Police (Cancelled)
0:41 - Syberia
1:45 - The Longest Journey
2:24 - Dreamfall: The Longest Journey
2:39 - Omikron: The Nomad's Soul
3:13 - Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
3:18 - Professor Layton & The Curious Village
3:30 - The Portopia Serial Murder Case
3:42 - Mystery House
4:00 - Suisho no Dragon
4:12 - Snatcher
4:18 - Policenauts
4:21 - Clock Tower
4:53 - Kamaitachi no Yoru
5:15 - Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney (start of segment)
6:57 - King's Quest V
7:09 - Ace Attorney: Trials & Tribulations
7:30 - Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney
7:34 - Ace Attorney: Spirit of Justice
7:48 - Professor Layton & The Curious Village (start of segment)
8:09 - Professor Layton vs Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
8:22 - Dragon Quest
8:25 - Shiren The Wanderer
8:31 - 428 Shibuya Scramble
8:34 - Nine Hours Nine Persons Nine Doors
9:19 - Virtue's Last Reward
9:31 - Danganronpa
10:50 - Indigo Prophecy
11:18 - Heavy Rain
11:39 - Myst V
11:48 - Nancy Drew: The White Wolf of Icicle Creek
11:56 - Nancy Drew: Curse of Blackmoor Manor
12:21 - Wallace & Gromit (Telltale)
12:26 - Bone (Telltale)
12:38 - Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People
12:40 - Sam & Max Save the World
13:01 - Puzzle Agent
13:07 - Tales of Monkey Island
13:20 - Back to the Future (Telltale)
13:26 - Jurrasic Park (Telltale)
13:54 - The Walking Dead (Telltale)
15:04 - Full Throttle
15:18 - Monkey Island 2
15:26 - Kentucky Route Zero
16:20 - Broken Age
17:46 - Moebius
17:50 - Leisure Suit Larry Reloaded
17:51 - Spaceventure
17:52 - Broken Sword 5
17:54 - Tesla Effect
18:00 - Thimbleweed Park
18:28 - The Wolf Among Us
18:38 - Game of Thrones (Telltale)
18:41 - Tales From the Borderlands
18:42 - Minecraft Story Mode
18:43 - Batman (Telltale)
18:44 - Guardians of the Galaxy (Telltale)
18:49 - The Walking Dead Season 2 (Telltale)
19:56 - The Walking Dead Season 3 (Telltale)
20:28 - Stranger Things (Telltale) (Cancelled)
21:15 - Machinarium
21:20 - Chuchel
21:23 - Life is Strange
21:25 - Gone Home
21:26 - Firewatch
21:27 - Oxenfree
21:28 - The Stanley Parable
21:30 - Dear Esther
21:31 - Tacoma
21:32 - Edith Finch
21:43 - Steins Gate
21:44 - Hatoful Boyfriend
21:45 - Oh...wouldn't you like to know?
21:47 - Doki Doki Literature Club
21:55 - Botanicula
21:56 - Deponia
21:57 - Gemini Rue
21:58 - Resonance
22:04 - Detective Grimoire
22:06 - Ghost Trick
22:07 - The Witness
22:08 - Her Story
22:09 - The Room
22:18 - Hotel Dusk
22:28 - King's Quest: A Knight to Remember
21:45 - Oh...wouldn't you like to know?
...yes
please?
I feel like Disco Elysium is the modern take on adventure games even though I can see why the heavy RPG mechanics would leave it of this list.
I NEED 21:45
21:45 i smell neck-o-para on bottom mid
@@huytungnguyen119 Top left - Panzermadels, A Tank Dating Simulator
Top middle - Uhhhh some sakura game maybe
Top right - Ace Attorney
Bottom left - Professor Layton
Bottom middle - Nekopara
Bottom right - John Cena Sexy High School Adventure
Better late than never
Dangan Ronpa AND Ace Attorney?
*_oh boy, here we go_*
@@genrotto8104 Law & Disorder gang
Dr piccolo
Mariya Mob
This is where I would put my Off the Hook (Ft. Paruko) squad wins... IF I HAD ANY!
>Dangan Ronpa
>and not Danganronpa
*heavy breathing*
When DesignDoc updates the autopsy report:
Why is this even a meme?
*Oh god no*
ruclips.net/video/CBTmawSkibc/видео.html
Um, actually
lol
"999's story feature a branching path structure that led you to multiple ending, including some dead ends."
Literally dead ends.
Wait- well, oh no
If there's a murderer, a dead end is a *dead end*
21:45
Don't think I wouldn't notice John Cena's Sexy High School Adventure
Next to what is obviously NekoPara, which is under what I think is Sakura Spirit.
I have no idea why Ace Attorney and Professor Layton are there and censored too lmao
Layton too sexy
@@DesignDoc Is the Sakura Spirit guess correct? If not then I need the SAUCE. The goddamn mosaic is full of skin coloured pixels lmao XD
I-is that Coming Out on Top at the top?
@@chamachama2013 no, it means you are a man of CULTURE...
*has danganronpa and ace attorney in the title.*
*startd with professor Layton music*
Oh man, this is gonna be GOOD.
You have a fine taste XD
Me knowing the other two solely through ace attorney:
While I agree, I don’t know if for the Wright reasons (haha funny pun)
I started headbanging instantly
Me: "I doubt he'll mention Zero Escape, it isn't as popular as Danganronpa..."
Hears Zero Escape music
*You found it!*
I just heard that little "kchh" at 8:29~8:30 and immediately knew it XD
honestly im really hoping for a zero escape danganronpa crossover, forexample that disasterous event mentioned at the end of the third zero escape game could be the tragedy from danganronpa, that would be amazing to have both time line branches and murder mystery debates rolled in the same game
Still no mention of Ever17, but maybe I'm asking too much. :P
me when I saw Hotel Dusk on the screen
Might be tough because V3 left us with many unanswered questions, but it does pull the series in the direction of parallel universes and such.
And it would only be tough in terms of story, plot, or lore as the games are done by Spike Chunsoft. In fact if you remember, the original Danganronpa game was supposed to run on a mis/trust system that was later scrapped and brought into VLR with the branching paths of the AB game.
21:45 Ace Attorney and Prof. Layton are way too hot for youtube
I'm a simple man, I see Monokuma I click.
Same but with Phoenix
Mood
Monokuma: "I'm a simple bear: I see masterjp227, I.... CLICK!"
**
But ... that is just a fiction.
Simple indeed...
I think what really sold me at the end of this video was you mentioning some rather unknown games that I love.
Deponia, Ghost Trick, The Room, all of these are rather niche but you listed them all, and it was really great to watch this love letter to the exact kind of game I've began loving in the past few years, not just those 3 I mentioned but also all the wonderful visual novels.
So thank you for this video.
There are so many amazing hidden gems in this genre!
I love the art style of Deponia, but holy hell the protagonist is aaaaawful.
Time Hollow wasn't mentioned, so if you look for a great other "niche" adventure game, there you go!
8:08 I've got such a soft spot for Professor Layton vs Phoenix Wright... yeah it takes the most off-putting elements of both series and mashes them together in a ludicrously bizarre way, but hot DAMN that medieval witch-trial aesthetic rocks my socks off! :D
Especially after the first witch trial just the pure shock shook me to my core .no other game has gotten closer to that feeling
“It takes the most off-putting elements of both series and mashes them together in a ludicrously bizarre way” is such a GREAT way to describe that game, well put 😂
RUclips has been recommending Ace Attorney remixes to me left and right.
Today, this video, with this exact thumbnail, has been posted.
Today, on the day of the Game Awards 2019, today the last character of the first Smash Bros dlc pass will be revealed.
Today, the stars are aligning for him.
The lawyer.
“Phoenix Wright defends the championship” _epic pointing at screen_
Wow this aged badly
Cirom Breeze If only it had aged badly but we had still gotten a character.
@@SuperPaperPokemon the ceremony was pretty much barren of good announcements from Nintendo
You expected Phoenix Wright, but it was me Vin Diesel!
I’m just hoping he’s on the second fighter’s pass
(which he probably won’t be..)
Return of the Obra Dinn is another fantastic game that takes its roots in the adventure genre! It might just be one of if not the best detective games ever made and it's really awesome to see the genre continue to innovate
It's the only game that makes you feel like an actual detective, instead of just following the bread crums laid by the developers.
You have no clue how much you made my day by mentioning ghost trick.
Also talking about how adventure games are alive and well with the main theme from the best professor layton is real nice ;)
I was wondering where that piece of music was from! Can you please tell me which exact game is it? Thanks!
@@followthemoonrabbit Professor Layton and the Lost Future (Unwound Future in America)
Yes, I love ghost trick so much and I was wondering if it would be classified as an adventure game!
THANK YOU for mentioning HerInteractive!! This is the only video I’ve seen talking about the modern age of adventure games that acknowledged the Nancy Drew series as one of the few stragglers that was able to keep momentum after the “death” of adventure games. Highly recommend them if anyone is curious! There’s 30+ games out there so you have plenty of options. Lol
This is my favorite video of yours so far. My favorite game series put under the microscope in your classic, polished fashion. Thanks man, this a treat!
Professor Layton was my very first game. It was amazing. Even though as a child I had some real problems with a few puzzles. And the spinoff game with Phoenix got me into that one, so ... yeah. I love those games. Danganronpa is also awesome.
Tycho Wozniaki That’s the exact progression that happened to me. Professor Layton got me into Phoenix Wright. Phoenix Wright got me into DanganRonpa. XD
Now DanganRonpa is getting me into Zero Escape. The first game, 999 is pretty fantastic. Convoluted as all hell, but somehow extremely clever as well.
Aw man I love this selection of games. I have to thank my mom for making Prof Layton and the Diabolical Box my first video game ever, and growing up with a DS/3DS meant that a lot of these games were actually my late childhood/early teens favorites. The entire Layton series, Ace Attorney, Zero Escape, Ghost Trick...
8:14 I instantly notice the track "Ternary Game" playing and I get nostalgic about 999
Then, I think to myself: "Oh yeah! That was another great adventure game."
Nice foreshadowing and amazing video overall!!! ^^
Would love to know your Thoughts on Ai: The Somnium Files.
I was really hoping he would mention it during the Spike/Chunsoft segment
You want to find out?
Psync with him, Date
Best ending ever
I platinumed this back soon after it came out and completely LOVED it. It was my favorite game of 2019. I’ve been thinking for a while now about replaying it, and now seeing your comment feels like a sign.
Danganronpa and Ace Attorney in the same thumbnail? How could I not click?!
I’m impressed someone else remembers those old Nancy Drew games
To this day I will not forgive the fact that if you missed the rather well-hidden cutters in the library in Danger at Every Corner (the one in the movie studio), you could not get them later. And if you had no cutters, you cannot win an encounter later on, which leads to death and a need to start again. Boy was I angry when I found out.
Garr_Inc I wonder if the name is different depending on the country, because if you’re talking about the one at the television studio I know it as Stay Tuned for Danger. Lol
me: _sees pwaa in the thumbnail + title_ "ahh, I'm glad Phoenix is here but Layton probably didn't..."
also me: *_hears curious village theme_* "yESSSSSSSSSS"
12:33 WAIT A FUCKING SECOND, IS THAT BONE!? THERE'S A BONE GAME!?
I'm surprised he didn't even mention kindergarten. It's an incredible game and the groundhog's day gimmick makes it feel very special and the end of the game feels so climactic because you went around befriending other students and collecting spedcial items to finally complete the main goal and save the missing students.
Dude i loved that video. I love Zero Escape Virtues Last reward, its legit my favorite game. Ace Attorney is soooo nice too and Puzzle Agent was fun with its story. VNs are so great and it still bites me that Dysfunctional System didnt get a secont game.
I completly disliked it for some reason, even tho i adored 999
I loved VLR! It definitely Had some weak points, like the big blocks of repeated text, and the occasional mandatory fail-state parts of the plot, but I thought it was the best balanced game in terms of narrative and puzzle gameplay. So many mysteries! So many options! I personally found that, while 999 had a great story, the puzzles were too easy to really be fun to work through.
And that ending! Realizing that you’re essentially stuck in this narrative loop, one that you have no true way of resolving until the next game. It doesn’t feel like a cheap cliffhanger, cause the game doesn’t really truly end there. You’re just stuck there, looking at this timeline in some desperate attempt to find some untread path where maybe, just maybe you can find the path where things turn out okay. But it isn’t there. All you can really do is start this whole cycle all over again.
Really surprised that Hiveswap wasn't discussed as I think that was an important part of learning the setbacks of Kickstarter development for adventure games.
Maybe because he already covered Broken Age, which has a similar-ish timeline?
Excellent videos as always
Takoma and Edith Finch are SO GOOD. I always loved adventure games, but was usually more focused on the puzzled. I never thought I would be so in love with those modern occidental spins on novels, but I did. Both Takoma and Edith Finch have a whole world of stories that make you hungry for exploration and fulfill all your expectations, with clever mechanics, interesting characters, well paced development, amazing graphics (shout out also to Takoma's physics) and most importantly, REALLY fun gameplay. I played those games more than once, and the second time I played them my young brother got curious and actually set by my side and watched the entire run for both games, and to this day we both laugh and talk about memorable experiences we had playing them.
The only I can think about is the Layton music, every time some uses it it makes so happy fjcjekg
you won me over with the lost future theme
also good to note that more and more visual novels are being officially translated for english audiences, including a lot of releases/remasters - it's a much, much bumpier road here because this is catering to a niche audience within a niche audience, but it's happening slowly
Remember my time playing Professor Layton back when I had 13 years old, some puzzles were so hard and maths never had been my strong point, so I would chase my teachers for their help to solve the puzzles XDD still need to play the 3DS games, but boy, I had so much fun with those games, also I cried a lot with the story, specially with The Lost Future, OMG I cried so hard at the end
Wow that I get it now, it cannot be unseen, that this games are all adventure games indeed.
Nowdays, "adventure game" isn't a genre anymore, is a mix of elements applicable in majority of established genres, is almost imposible to make a successful game based only on the "adventure games" elements.
Pretty much
I love how Design Doc decides to just flex on us at the end by listing or showing every adventure game out there...and yet it almost feels like there's enough in that little excerpt just to do a third video highlighting all these different games and what makes them unique.
I like that the Adventure game genre almost mirrors the way life works. There's decision making, problem solving, and all sorts of interactions. They're also technically the first games many of us have ever played! (Humongous Entertainment)
Emocia Those Blues Clues games from HE got me into Scooby Doo from The Learning Company. Then I got into Nancy Drew from Her Interactive. Then I got into Professor Layton from Level 5. Then I got into Ace Attorney from Capcom. Then I got into DanganRonpa from Spike Chunsoft. Now I’m into Zero Escape. And that’s how I went from looking for blue paw prints to using math to unlock death bracelets. 😂
My first adventure game was Spyfox which I got in a box of Kellogs cereals haha
My sisters and I loved the Nancy Drew games. Though me and my brother were guys, we enjoyed the tense, horror aspects of it.
Someone was so close to speaking about HOTEL DUSK AND LAST WINDOW!
Fantastic overview on adventure games! Maybe now the chances of someone touching upon the great works from Developer Cinq have increased.
The Darkside Detective is a fantastic indie point-and-click adventure that came out recently from Spooky Doorway. There's basically no pixel-hunting because the pixels are so big, haha. It has really low resolution pixel art, which is part of what makes it so endearing. The short case lengths helps keep everything fresh. The humorous banter between the Detective McQueen and his sidekick Dooley is probably the best part, followed by the silly, but still quite sensible solutions and recurring characters.
I loved this. I grew up playing professor layton and later finding danganronpa and 999 to now where I play things like what remains of edith finch, and Tacoma. I loved how this history lesson felt so personal. I love how comprehensive your video was and I want to play more adventure games now. :)
3:02 So any David Cage game then.
I am sooo glad you mentioned Ghost Trick, is such a good game and I was afraid you were gonna forget it.
Probably the best documentary on adventure games I've seen on youtube. Wonderful job
Love this video! It actually made me change how I think about some of my favorite games of recent years: Will A Wonderful World, Edith Finch, Tacoma , Heavy Rain, Until Dawn, ect. I never really thought of these games as adventure games (I was raised on a heavy dose of the Myst franchise and Grim Fandango) but yeah these games are really a modern extension of the original point and click adventure games.
Your videos make me so happy, I'm glad to see my favorite titles being brought up in such a positive way! Thank you for your hard work ❤️
The Zero Escape series is just so, so good. It has its narrative hiccups here and there (only natural given how heady and head-scratcher-y it gets), but the end result is a phenomenal roller coaster ride of shocking revelation after shocking revelation. I love it to pieces.
Is... this...thumbnail... a siivagunner reference? I have no idea if you even know who they are, but even so...
Your timing is impeccable.
I know about Silvagunner but I had no idea about the kfad stuff. That was a pure coincidence.
Thank you so much for the comprehensive background info as well as the corresponding background music!! It gives me some nostalgia.
22:05 GHOST TRICK MENTIONED AAAAA I LOVE GHOST TRICK
10:51 THE MUSIC
I love Machinarium so much
As a kid, I remember seeing Sam & Max, and Grim Fandango, and thinking they looked really fun to play (yes, I'm old). However, after having played games like Phoenix Wright, Hotel Dusk (which is one of my all-time favorite games), and other modern adventure games, I've come to realize that what I enjoy most about these kinds of games are the stories that they tell, rather than the mechanics of the point-and-click adventure. I'm so glad that the genre never completely disappeared, but rather changed itself for the better. Thank you for covering this topic!
I think a lot of issues with genres "dying off" is the very concept of genres, and how that concept limits the creativity of many designers. It's like a checklist or template or mold for designers to fill.
Of course, I'm not saying we should dismiss the concept of genres, or that we shouldn't think about them, but when you're designing a game, I hope that you at least _try_ to look outside the box, as difficult as that may be.
How many games do you know that challenge or defy genres as we know them?
I’ve never heard anyone mention the Nancy Drew games before! Those were my childhood computer games!
I'm so happy to see The Room get some spotlight in this video, it's such an incredibly atmospheric and intriguing series of puzzle/adventure games.
Man I love your use of the Layton OST. Great choices
Someone: accidentally included Monokuma and Phoenix Wright in the same thumbnail
Everyone: “yo is that siivagunner KFAD?”
That tonal rollercoaster at the end was really fun. I had never really consciously thought of VNs, walking sims, or games like Stanley Parable, as branches of Adventure Games before. Now, it seems so obvious I feel stupid for not noticing.
I'm more disappointed than I should be that the whole TheOddGentlemen Kingsquest and Hiveswap debacle didn't get brought up XD
Glad to see Hotel Dusk sneak in at the end. It's still my favourite adventure game and it's a damn shame Cing died.
Did you play the sequel, Broken Window? It's pretty much just as good, and an obvious continuation from the first. I'm nearing the end of it but finding it difficult to keep going because I hate for a good game like this to end.
If you're looking for solid, fun, not-clunky point-and-click games, you may also try Still Life and the sequel, Still Life 2. Unlike some other "sequels," Still Life 2 is a sequel that was obviously hinted at in the first game, and finishes the story.
You can buy physical copies for the PC, but because the games are so old, you have to do some work to get them functional unless you're running Windows XP. You can buy the games on Steam now, so that's probably the option for most people. I just like having physical copies, and the boxes for these two games are pretty sweet.
I cried a little tear when you got to the early Telltale games. I still treasure those games, despite what happened later.
I discovered Zero Escape around a year ago, and damn, it’s still my favourite game series
This is by far one of your best videos. I’ve played a lot of the games you mentioned, but there are still some that I need to play. Great job!
Thanks for the video! It is a very good history rundown of the genre.
Though from my perspective it is weird that you mentioned European games without mentioning Germany at all (unless I somehow missed it, but saw about TLJ, France, and then it was about Japan) which pretty much single handedly kept the classic point and click adventure market alive for years, in Europe at least.
Tim Schafer even once joked how adventure games exist in our dreams, our memories, and Germany :D
To be fair, not all of them saw English translation, a bunch received localization only for languages like Russian, French, Polish, Czech, countries that were still really interested in the genre, but a lot of English releases too. You mentioned Deponia at the end, which is from one of the main german adventure game developers.
And while in US adventure games have collapsed, in Europe they never died, with a ton of classic point and click adventure games still releasing in the span between the years 2000 and 2012. Mostly thanks to Germany :) so that country is an important part of adventure game history.
Great documentary! As a fan of adventure games, way back from the Sierra time, it was amazing seeing how each game lead to another.
Great video!
Gotta drop few of my personal favourites of modern, but still really classically designed adventure game gems which weren't featured in the video: Kathy Rain, Whispers of a Machine, The Book of Unwritten Tales series, The Whispered World, The Darkside Detective, Lost Horizon, Secret Files series, Blackwell series, Technobabylon and A New Beginning. There has also been quite a resurrection of hidden object adventures, which I think in a sense the mentioned The Room series belong into as well. My Brother Rabbit and The New York Mysteries series have been really good as well.
the darkside detective is so good! it’s exciting to see other people who know about it lol
I'm a little disappointed that you didn't even mention AI: The Somnium Files, an excellent murder mystery adventure game from Spike Chunsoft. It's amazing and honestly probably my favorite game of the year (Though I admittedly haven't played that many new games this year...).
Still, a lot of my favorite series got some representation here. Danganronpa, Ace Attorney, Professor Layton... All fantastic series that I could not be happier about for their existence.
You should deffintily play the fsntatisc stuff this year has to offer
who'd thunk that This channel would explore ADVs and NVLs. Awesome.
I’m so glad you mentioned Broken Age. It was my first visual novel
This video left me so hopeful for the future of adventure games. And motivated to keep working on my own. Thank you.
This vid was amazing and I love Professor Layton music!
Flover, Sun, Rain
Another Code: Two Memories
(aka Trace Memory in the US) and Another Code: R - A Journey into Lost Memories
Hotel Dusk and Last Window: The Secret of Cape West (at least you showed it at 22:17)
just a name a few more
I am so happy you bring out these franchises to broader audiences. I was a great fan of almost all of them for a long time now.
Good tosee Hotel Dusk, even if it is nit mentioned directly :)
im happy everytime i see my boy layton getting mentioned, that series is what brought me to play so many of the games you mentioned, loved this video :D
Glad to see Ghost Trick is mentioned in the videoooooo!!!!!!
BTW The music of Professor Layton and the Unwound Future makes me wanna cry...
excellent video/history/documentary. well done sir!
I think some of the examples here overshadowed how integrated puzzles were in some of the classics
To every "hitting yeti with pie" in kq5 there was a completely organic and naturally integrated to the game in kq6 such as the gnome guardians puzle
I think the recent games by Pendulo Studio deserve a mention here. Especially 'Yesterday: Origins', and 'Next Big Thing' have given me new hope for the point-and-click genre.
Danganronpa Ace Attorney Zero Escape Profeeser Layton and even Ghost Trick (it's Awesome but I thought no one know about it) I like this genre way more than I intialy thought
"Because apparently your the luckiest lawyer in the world."
Pretty sure that's legit how it's described in canon-
Glad to see Law & Disorder in the thumbnail.
Thank you. I loved my "old school" genres, like point and click, on-rails shooter, and fmv.
He mentioned the Nancy Drew games!!! Those things were my childhood, and I loved playing them with my friends. We would constantly come up with theories and would point out things the other missed. Those were good times loll
So this comes out and I just finished the first chapter of Danganronpa 2, nice.
MrOsuGamer Hoo boy you’re in for a wild ride! 😂 What are your thoughts so far?
@@Little1Cave I really liked the first one, but sometimes the Trials get a little too "wild" for my taste, I would prefer having unlimited time to really think about the Statements and Arguments
2 is the best, now doubt about that but it also contains stupid moments (in a bad way)....anyway, i fcking Love it so much.
Ps mononis track is godly
Have fun diving! remember to watch the anime as well and play the DR: Another Episode
@@Little1Cave I finished it today! What a ride, the last case was really wild!
You are the most underrated and one of my favourite RUclipsrs i know, keep up the good work!
Recently found this channel and honestly i love it. Cool educational topics on games design
Nice to see somebody realise that the Japanese Adventure game actually exists. Well researched Video Design Doc. (also shout out to the main theme of Proffessor Layton and the Lost/Unwound Future at the end.)
I liked how you added examples from other countries. Really shows just how wide adventure games have spread.
Shame there's no mention of the Myst series beyond a short clip, considering those were a pretty big thing in the 90s and probably the only adventure games I could properly play.
I always get stuck with dialogue and inventory puzzles, but the simple setup of "here's a machine, get it to work", now that I can deal with.
these videos made me realize that the specific genre of games i seem to love are adventure games! i never knew what name to put to it before besides "visual novel", event though the spectrum was broader than that
You did an amazing and very well designed video! Great work!
Half way through the video and having said that this video consumed much time, I thought you wouldn't mention the indie scene. I totally agree that they are the ones keeping the genre alive nowadays. Just wanted to say that this is (for me) your best video, I think you said everything that had to be said and the video in general is very well paced, it didn't feel like 23 mins at all. Thanks for everything you do, this is one of my favourite RUclips channels for video game in depth analysis
a list of games mentioned would be great
21:45 Don't think I don't notice Nekopara in there
10:32
I see what you did there-
//cries in a corner
Worth noting that the whole time there was ongoing text-adventure work. It was mostly hobbyists, but the same people made contributions to to more mainstream commercial work and more recently commercial text adventures, both parser based and more recently choice driven in Twine and similar engines.
I love the final shot of Graham from new King's Quest.
I love adventure games. I played Sam and Max and Monkey Island with my dad, and then I played through the Ace Attorney trilogy with my sister. Professor Layton is one of my favorite series ever. I think adventure games are great to play with a friend :)
BROKEN AGE! I've been trying to remember its name for weeks! It's one of those games that you don't actively remember, but rather floats in the edges of your memory, occasionally popping up in a quick "hey, remember this thing exists?" thought and vanishing back into the void as soon as it shows up.
I came across these two Adventure game videos as I am aspiring to make a simple Point and Click game using Ren'py. I didn't know Visual Novels have its roots from classic Adventure games when I chose Ren'py. As a solo indie nobody, I don't think I have the resources nor the writing chops to write full-blown stories, so I'm trying to go for something I could feasibly make in my humble beginnings.
Also, these videos were very enlightening. Recognizing some names like Chunsoft, Square and ahem Quantic Dream lit me up. I didn't even know Quantic Dream made a game before Fahrenheit.
I have a few takeaways from these two videos that I can use in my soon-to-make game. One is to find a way to prevent pixel hunting, another is not to give players time pressure for puzzles. I also shouldn't create obscure nonsense puzzles that would require the player to pull up a guide, but the challenge is to do that while not making the problems boringly easy to the player.
I grew up on the humongous entertainment point and click games and man, this is wonderful content