jessesam because Hopkins is a technical genius and Pavlik is a come forward slugger. It was Mayweather-Gatti, but Pavlik had an iron chin, so he finished the fight.
Met Kelly at the southern park mall one time when I was about 9 years old. Took the time to take pictures with me and sign my shirt. Genuine guy who loved his community. Hated to see his downfall
Hes a big dude when it comes to 160. When I saw him my first thought was his bones are huge. Hes not just tall. That's a huge guy and we all know he has mean cross
He should be in the Hall when it’s time. He’s only 36, he took on dumb fights in his career towards the end and I blame that on his manager. I always respected him. Kudos to him for getting out of Youngstown.
I met Kelly, yes in a bar, no he wasn't drunk. He was a genuine, nice and cool guy to hang out with. We joked and talked life like any other guys at a local bar. He probably made a few wrong choices but this small media bullshit was hardly fair to him.
He was unified Middleweight champion, Hopkins had him dead on the weight . Not to mention he beat Taylor twice which something Hopkins couldn't do twice
Pavlik was one of my favorite fighters of all time. Win or lose, he was incredible to watch. I think Youngstown treated him badly when he retired and as he said 'tried to make him looked bad with a desperate attempt to get attention for themselves.' His skirmishes were blown so wildly out of proportion. In the age before social media no one would've ever known. You can tell when someone's telling the truth and Kelly is telling the truth here. I feel like the people around him in the town took advantage of him. Offering drinks, wanting to get drunk with him. Kelly was taken advantage of no question. Everyone has silly little moments. I really don't like how he was slandered after his retirement by the local people around him. You wanna go around and drink and have a good time after achieving that incredible career, for locals to turn on him for attention is really sad. Love you Pavlik. Wished he would've got to take the Ward fight. Yes he might of lost or almost certainly, but I think it would've been an entertaining fight Pavlik made a wise decision, but I still wanted to see it. I wish he would've switched trainers at some point.
That's pretty crazy Kelly is very famous in youngstown I know people that are family to him he is a good dude and they hyped his stuff up he was just drinking but they were hating. Now he s got money got respect and he got jacked he's very successful from what I ve heard
Jealously... I know... Youngstown is still Jim crow... when the town has it out for you here... you better move... because this city will take you under...
This is how you do it properly. Instead of copyright striking every fan upload, they upload clips first and in good quality. That's how you get that Adsense money.
Ran into Hopkins at the Whole Foods on Callowhill. Unlocking my bike, his SUV was parked next to the bike rack. " You ride that all over town?" " Yes I do". " That's great. It's good for you."
I'm from Youngstown... and I've been a fan... Kelly has always been a solo... type of dude... from the outside looking in... it was to many SNAKES IN THE CAMP... and no real friends helping or protecting him... and kelly ain't making no friends either... TRUST IS HARD TO COME BY WHERE WE FROM
I'd like to see big George Foreman on the podcast. I mean Who else you gonna talk to that held the heavyweight belt 20 years between reigns, talk about the golden age of the heavyweight and then the renaissance it experienced in the 90s? I think he's Wilder's strength coach now so he can even comment on the current crop of heavyweights!
I love kelly man i remember when he was buliding the pond in his back yard he told me about this story as it happened right before i stayed with him but he took me my mom my sister and her bf on vacation all expenses paid and he also gave me a new iphone and ps4 at the time that was the newest system but his body gaurd as well his name was bobby ended up becoming my close friend i love kelly man ill always support him i was a huge fan and when i got to meet him it was a blessing
This pugilists was tough as nails at takin punches and even tougher at giving punches.He obliterated boxers that nearly obliterated him.THATS LEGENDARY.Theres alot of fake channels that would try to stain him these days and thats why boxing is in dire straits .THE GHOST IS PAVLIK AND PAVLIK IS THE GHOST .
I like Kelly. But let's face it--he was a fuck-up. And he kind of blew it. If when he beat Taylor the second time, you said he would never again score a significant win, I think most wouldn't have believed it. He was a big unbeaten KO artist and middleweight champ and pretty much done by 26-27. His career was great as it is. But he has to know it coulda been so much more. Good dude though.
He is definitely underplaying the alcoholism he was getting in bar fights pretty frequently. I live in Youngstown I respect the guy but don’t down play your past
Dont have to be pissed to fight... He liked a beer so fucking what... I bet every tough asshole in that town was trying his luck... Everyone wants to judge and label people
Idk about Youngstown putting out the most nfl players I thought it was Miami Florida. They had a documentary I think it was called liberty city warriors recently that made that claim. But idk like I said. If anyone does know let me know
Completely destroyed Miranda's career. I don't think Kelly gets the credit for some of those types of fights. Guys like Miranda, Zertuche, Taylor were never the same after him.
Congrats on your sobriety Kelly loved your fights. Youngstown was a hard drinking town. I remember when I was 5 going to the park with my granddaughter to feed the squirrels. He would hit every bar in Youngstown like clockwork. The bartenders would have a goblet of beer a single shot of whiskey and a double all lined up for him. He would shoot the double then drop the single into the beer down they went then on to the next bar. I loved him but I was 5. I know it’s fucked up but that’s my favorite memory of my granddaughter.
Kelly feels his charges for the shooting should be dropped? WHY? Hes on video doing it, why does he think he shouldnt be held accountable for his CONFIRMED CRIME ON VIDEO?
@ plok ijuh Exactly! "The Land of the Free," and yet you can get arrested and go to jail and/or sued for almost any little thing. I have traveled to "Third World" countries, and over there, you can do almost anything, especially, if you have the money. LOL
Soooo many people came out of the Youngstown/Warren (we pronounce it "worn") area and within an hour of it. REPRESENT THE 330! Where the few women that are here are ugly, the weather is always terrible and being shot on your way home is a real possibility. Kelly is the only person to make it big around here and not leave, and he has a VERY bad reputation here. Everyone here is "stuck in Ohio". (little 330 inside joke)
@@TheFreedef apparently he is known for being a drunk that threw away his potential when he had plenty left. Most local bars have stories about him getting hammered and doing some stupid stuff and only getting out of it because of who he is. Ive seen him around before but never met him and do not know him, so I can't say anything positive or negative about the guy. The locals are not fond of him generally speaking as a person.
@@PTdoubleOT yeah, what would someone who lives roughly 20mins from Kelly's house know about the only local world champion? The last 2 times I even heard about Kelly was on WFMJ (local news) about him being in jail or in trouble. I don't know the guy like I said, but I find it fairly odd that not one person has ever told me something positive about Kelly as a person especially after he won the championship. The dude might be totally cool and just gets in trouble a lots, IDK.
there used to be bar in niles ohio called mcmenamys. he used to drink there. there is this stupid bar game called icing, where your suppost to knee and drink a smirnoff. and he would just do this to randos all trying start shit.
He's looks more healthy and strong looking than he was when he was competitive its wierd I always thought his lips were like that when he was boxing from getting hit I never seen him not in a boxing match I always thought it was swelling gueess not not making fun just didn't know
That was a little but of a fucked up thing to way his face turned red I understand being in that situation when people bring that up it can be embarrassing
40 - 2 via UD. Never knocked out. That's pretty impressive.
Linux4UnMe the ghost was nice man. Only lost to the very top of the top. He was lineal champ at a time if I remember
jessesam because Hopkins is a technical genius and Pavlik is a come forward slugger. It was Mayweather-Gatti, but Pavlik had an iron chin, so he finished the fight.
@@traceytaggart1740 yeah spot on... Terrible match up for him...
@jessesam ruclips.net/video/5cijX_bDcEE/видео.html
Adam Cyrus James toney was stopped late in his career look it up
Guy was one of the pound for pound hardest punchers in boxing when active...him and Paquiao.
Met Kelly at the southern park mall one time when I was about 9 years old. Took the time to take pictures with me and sign my shirt. Genuine guy who loved his community. Hated to see his downfall
As a Youngstown native like Kelly, I’m glad to see his recovery is on the up swing
I just saw a RUclips clip from the local news there, talking about some boxing thing he's involved with in Warren, and he looks super old for 42!!!
His arms are definitely threatening to Chael's throne!!!
Loool
Hes a big dude when it comes to 160. When I saw him my first thought was his bones are huge. Hes not just tall. That's a huge guy and we all know he has mean cross
@@Johnbrownsmarch well he's 6'2 and in his late 30's now I'd imagine the homie is at lesst 180 or above that now lol.
@@futuretrunks6430 I'd wager closer to 210-215
Should get into movies. He'd be a cool villian.
Alcohol is a hell of a drug
@FLLN 97 its legal so. Definitely not harmful at all in any way
@Miles Davidson easy way to end that debate. Does it change the way you think feel and act?
Tylenol reduces pain therefor its a drug also.
@Wordsmith 430 None of us remember, because I doubt anyone here were actually alive in the 1920s.
FLLN 97 Text comments are not the best way to communicate. It is easy to read something the wrong way. I bet those two agree on basically everything.
This clip wasn't even about alcohol 😑
Out of all the guests Joe has had on, it's wild this is the only one where the mans hometown is constantly being brought up.
Wtf the ghost got jacked
The Ghost!! Guy was nice in the boxing ring back in the day 👊
@jessesam any pavlik fight is more entertaining than the whole hopkins career
Honesty is rare, it's good to see it these days!
He should be in the Hall when it’s time. He’s only 36, he took on dumb fights in his career towards the end and I blame that on his manager. I always respected him. Kudos to him for getting out of Youngstown.
They need to make a movie on Kelly
He did get jacked ! He was a great Fighter ! He could punch like hell too
Double-bubble chrome domes. 😂
I met Kelly, yes in a bar, no he wasn't drunk. He was a genuine, nice and cool guy to hang out with. We joked and talked life like any other guys at a local bar. He probably made a few wrong choices but this small media bullshit was hardly fair to him.
He was a great boxer.
@SFIFA he did force Kelly to go up in weight tho
He was unified Middleweight champion, Hopkins had him dead on the weight . Not to mention he beat Taylor twice which something Hopkins couldn't do twice
Pavlik was one of my favorite fighters of all time. Win or lose, he was incredible to watch. I think Youngstown treated him badly when he retired and as he said 'tried to make him looked bad with a desperate attempt to get attention for themselves.' His skirmishes were blown so wildly out of proportion. In the age before social media no one would've ever known. You can tell when someone's telling the truth and Kelly is telling the truth here. I feel like the people around him in the town took advantage of him. Offering drinks, wanting to get drunk with him. Kelly was taken advantage of no question. Everyone has silly little moments. I really don't like how he was slandered after his retirement by the local people around him. You wanna go around and drink and have a good time after achieving that incredible career, for locals to turn on him for attention is really sad. Love you Pavlik. Wished he would've got to take the Ward fight. Yes he might of lost or almost certainly, but I think it would've been an entertaining fight Pavlik made a wise decision, but I still wanted to see it. I wish he would've switched trainers at some point.
Who of us can honestly say we haven't shot our fugitive friend with a bb gun while they were excavating a lake in our yard? Happens every day.
Jo Po Exactly! Just the other day I did it on DMT just to shake things up a bit
Just watched a Pavlik highlight reel. A real boxer right there. I'm disappointed that I never saw his fights before.
His fight with Jermaine Taylor is a classic.
WOAH THE THUMBNAIL LOOKS LIKE AN INTERVIEW BETWEEN JOE VS. JOE
Joe rogan's last name is actually Pavlik. Look on his wikipedia page
trapbyJACK! Irl Roe Jogan and Joe Rogan
Lol
Hahahahhahahaja Bro fuck off you made me cry hahaha so fuckin funny
Not really bro
That's pretty crazy Kelly is very famous in youngstown I know people that are family to him he is a good dude and they hyped his stuff up he was just drinking but they were hating. Now he s got money got respect and he got jacked he's very successful from what I ve heard
The Warner brothers were from Youngstown.
Jealously... I know... Youngstown is still Jim crow... when the town has it out for you here... you better move... because this city will take you under...
He should get in the movie business. got the looks voice ect
This guys real AF
Great interview. Just to be clear - When Pavlik was talking.
I used to love this guy watched his entire career
He took me and my fam on vacation rlly good dude
lies
All 100% facts I have pictures to prove it
If u r rich, don't trust ure friends
Exactly
Some friends he got
The Ghost already had two heavy-ass hands when he was skinny, and now got jacked too. He could punch holes into people.
so now he's jacked with boxing skills .. I feel sorry for the guy who gets in a scuffle with him not knowing who is he is yikes lol
Ya, and he had "heavy hands"! Knocked out guys who had never been knocked down in their careers!
Video production here is quite interesting. They are still streaming as I type, but they already published these clips.
Maybe Eddie can find a conspiracy out of this lol
@a wo he isn't posting these. Fans are
This is how you do it properly. Instead of copyright striking every fan upload, they upload clips first and in good quality. That's how you get that Adsense money.
@a wo "demonstrably wrong omggg" jfc shut yo dictionary sounding ass up
@@OrangeCheekun Funny how defensive people get when they're proven wrong
Everybody’s pretty real around youngstown . #330
Ran into Hopkins at the Whole Foods on Callowhill. Unlocking my bike, his SUV was parked next to the bike rack. " You ride that all over town?" " Yes I do". " That's great. It's good for you."
That shirt. We need Paz back on the podcast.
I'm from Youngstown... and I've been a fan... Kelly has always been a solo... type of dude... from the outside looking in... it was to many SNAKES IN THE CAMP... and no real friends helping or protecting him... and kelly ain't making no friends either... TRUST IS HARD TO COME BY WHERE WE FROM
He said it himself, he should have GTFO of the the valley.
I have family there. There’s a lot of good hardworking ppl. Ashamed that the economy there is in shambles
I'd like to see big George Foreman on the podcast. I mean Who else you gonna talk to that held the heavyweight belt 20 years between reigns, talk about the golden age of the heavyweight and then the renaissance it experienced in the 90s? I think he's Wilder's strength coach now so he can even comment on the current crop of heavyweights!
Daaaamn Kelly! You look like you put on 40 lbs of muscle....... JACKED.
You were a one of a kind fighter.
Just ran through the division.
I love kelly man i remember when he was buliding the pond in his back yard he told me about this story as it happened right before i stayed with him but he took me my mom my sister and her bf on vacation all expenses paid and he also gave me a new iphone and ps4 at the time that was the newest system but his body gaurd as well his name was bobby ended up becoming my close friend i love kelly man ill always support him i was a huge fan and when i got to meet him it was a blessing
Youngstown.... LEGEND....
Joe has the most interesting guest
Look up Youngstown Ohio on the Urban Dictionary. Hahaha! Good stuff. And quite accurate.
He’s great guy friend of mine and he’s as real as they come
I wish he had fought calzaghe - that would have been a great fight 🏴
This guys hero was Rocky!
He sounds like Mickey Rourke. Kinda.
Whattt!!! Nooo
This pugilists was tough as nails at takin punches and even tougher at giving punches.He obliterated boxers that nearly obliterated him.THATS LEGENDARY.Theres alot of fake channels that would try to stain him these days and thats why boxing is in dire straits .THE GHOST IS PAVLIK AND PAVLIK IS THE GHOST .
Joe “my wife didn’t iron my shirt” Rogan
Happens to the best of us
Great champ and very proud also guy who beat taylor and provet that judges rob bernard hopkins ageinst taylor
I like Kelly. But let's face it--he was a fuck-up. And he kind of blew it. If when he beat Taylor the second time, you said he would never again score a significant win, I think most wouldn't have believed it. He was a big unbeaten KO artist and middleweight champ and pretty much done by 26-27. His career was great as it is. But he has to know it coulda been so much more. Good dude though.
My guy from Ohio 🔥
Joes wrinkled shirt is distracting lol
A good dude all around now
I can't go out and act like a jagaloon , lmao reminded me of step brothers
goddamn I loved Kelly Pavlik. Concrete chin. Best of luck to you, brother.
Pavlik vs Taylor are Classic All Great Boxing Matches
he relized he could get paid while he was locked up thats why he sued . he was sitting in jail andrelized this
Loved watching him he's was a monster #RESPECT
Something about him reminds me of Macho Man Randy Savage ..lol don’t know why but it does.
Water ? ....No I'm good
Ha I remember him saying that story I was there when he was building that lake
Pavlik looks like he has synthol on his arms
From the Y babyyyy
his voice sounds about 40 years older than he looks
He was the best. Could of been the best ever.
He is definitely underplaying the alcoholism he was getting in bar fights pretty frequently. I live in Youngstown I respect the guy but don’t down play your past
I remember him getting knocked out at the bar
Dont have to be pissed to fight... He liked a beer so fucking what... I bet every tough asshole in that town was trying his luck... Everyone wants to judge and label people
Brian Thomas doubt that
@@brianthomas1785 yeah right
@@brianthomas1785 yeah sure, maybe you knocked him out...
2 derilium tremors swore me off booze forever.
I heard those are pretty terrifying glad you made it
YOUNGSTOWN
Would have loved to see him fight Paul Williams. That damn staph infection was hideous though.
In the Midwest we drink a lot what's new.
Kinda looks like a jacked Karl Pilkington
@@calum9124 There were these Formula One races ages ago right, and...someone kept winnin' em.
BHop smoked him. But I remember that Martinez fight. Sergio had him blind bleeding out both eyes.
u name the only 2 that beat him. not to mention bhop was 2 weight classes bigger so he went up in weight and fought him with bronchitis.
Asking an American adult if they're an alcoholic is like asking a mosquito if they want to drink your blood. Yes, they most certainly do.
Idk about Youngstown putting out the most nfl players I thought it was Miami Florida. They had a documentary I think it was called liberty city warriors recently that made that claim. But idk like I said. If anyone does know let me know
I fucking love you joe. By far the best interviewer on the RUclipss! Such finess with your questioning. YOU THE MAN!
That’s a punk move, pressing charges. It’s a federal gun charge? Pavlik knocked out jermaine Taylor rd 7. Great fighter to watch.
The ghost whooped miranda & jermaine Taylor
Completely destroyed Miranda's career. I don't think Kelly gets the credit for some of those types of fights. Guys like Miranda, Zertuche, Taylor were never the same after him.
Pavlik was a destroyer, he doesn't won fights, he destroys careers...
ELPRESADOR is still the toughest man in Youngstown
Just ask any rotten tree in the surrounding area
Gooongingong
GUNGAAAAAAA
DANG JOE! Don't forget about the old Ohio State coach Jim Tressel. He from Youngstown. To a lesser extent Maurice Clarrett (nowhere near as famous).
Harry arroyo, ray mancini, Earnie shavers to name a few more
really a nice guy.
Charles Martin is another tremendous fighter out of Youngstown
Ya right
More then south Florida in football lmao yea right
So many scam artists out there, drinking too much often leads you susceptible, be careful yall.
He’s gorgeous
Congrats on your sobriety Kelly loved your fights. Youngstown was a hard drinking town. I remember when I was 5 going to the park with my granddaughter to feed the squirrels. He would hit every bar in Youngstown like clockwork. The bartenders would have a goblet of beer a single shot of whiskey and a double all lined up for him. He would shoot the double then drop the single into the beer down they went then on to the next bar. I loved him but I was 5. I know it’s fucked up but that’s my favorite memory of my granddaughter.
You were 5 with a granddaughter?
How did you have a granddaughter at 5?
Kelly feels his charges for the shooting should be dropped? WHY? Hes on video doing it, why does he think he shouldnt be held accountable for his CONFIRMED CRIME ON VIDEO?
Come on out Kelly but don't mod your car.
Another example of the ridiculous litigious culture in the US.
@
plok ijuh
Exactly! "The Land of the Free," and yet you can get arrested and go to jail and/or sued for almost any little thing.
I have traveled to "Third World" countries, and over there, you can do almost anything, especially, if you have the money. LOL
Franc Mittelo 🙊
Soooo many people came out of the Youngstown/Warren (we pronounce it "worn") area and within an hour of it. REPRESENT THE 330! Where the few women that are here are ugly, the weather is always terrible and being shot on your way home is a real possibility. Kelly is the only person to make it big around here and not leave, and he has a VERY bad reputation here. Everyone here is "stuck in Ohio". (little 330 inside joke)
Captain Deadpool why he has very BAD reputation in Youngstown ? Explain please
@@TheFreedef apparently he is known for being a drunk that threw away his potential when he had plenty left. Most local bars have stories about him getting hammered and doing some stupid stuff and only getting out of it because of who he is. Ive seen him around before but never met him and do not know him, so I can't say anything positive or negative about the guy. The locals are not fond of him generally speaking as a person.
@@JDsgreatz28 all of which if you watch the podcast you'd know he says is incorrect.
@@PTdoubleOT yeah, what would someone who lives roughly 20mins from Kelly's house know about the only local world champion? The last 2 times I even heard about Kelly was on WFMJ (local news) about him being in jail or in trouble. I don't know the guy like I said, but I find it fairly odd that not one person has ever told me something positive about Kelly as a person especially after he won the championship. The dude might be totally cool and just gets in trouble a lots, IDK.
there used to be bar in niles ohio called mcmenamys. he used to drink there. there is this stupid bar game called icing, where your suppost to knee and drink a smirnoff. and he would just do this to randos all trying start shit.
Youngstown till we die Kelly 330
Yompton in the house
Stfu pussy
He's looks more healthy and strong looking than he was when he was competitive its wierd I always thought his lips were like that when he was boxing from getting hit I never seen him not in a boxing match I always thought it was swelling gueess not not making fun just didn't know
Ma man reminds me of Mickey Rourke :)
That was a little but of a fucked up thing to way his face turned red I understand being in that situation when people bring that up it can be embarrassing
get more boxers on!!
How in the he'll did he get so big?! He used to fight at 160! Nigga went full Rumble haha
These guy's lips are too moist
wtf...?
Sus
Its a gay thing
That's the dumbest comment I've ever read. Pathetic.
you wanna slide something in those lips? lol
What an accent
I think he lost a very good fight against Sergio Martinez .