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It could be they didn’t include one in my package in error, but more and more companies are leaving out the power supply these days. Either I was unlucky or you were lucky 😉.
Great video. Do you know if you can create a group inside of AirPlay? I have an AirPlay 2 soundbar, and would like to have it grouped with my in ceiling kitchen speakers to play kitchen audio.
Hi, unfortunately unlike other HomeKit devices, like bulbs etc, you can’t create a group from separate AirPlay 2 devices. The only option of this type is with HomePods, where you can create a stereo pair. There may be ways to create an automation that can be activated via Siri that allows the audio stream to multiple devices using AirPlay 2, but it’s not something I’ve tried myself.
I am confused as to what the Line in option does on it? I am looking for something that will stream my turntable to my airplay 2 devices. Any ideas? Thank you for your review and great video.
As I understand it, you should be able to feed an appropriate audio signal into it, and then through the speakers it’s connected to. This ‘should’ allow you to send that signal to other Wiim or Arylic devices within the respective apps, but it won’t work that way with AirPlay 2, as it’s a ‘one way street’ - AirPlay audio is sent to the WiiM, you can’t send audio from the Wiim to other AirPlay devices.
thanks a lot for your explaining the feature of this Wiim Mini. I am using, currenly, my Samsung S22 Ultra as a music source for a pair of active/powered speakers, via Bluetooth 5.0, which deliver 24bit/96kHz quality as so stated. My streaming source of Android S22 is Apple Music, which now offers Hi Res music pieces. I am not sure if (1) Wiim Mini works with Apple Music App on Android, and (2) could the sound improves assuming that the Wiim Mini gets directly the Apple Music via WiFi rather than from my Samsung phone. Any advice?
Hi, after trying a couple of quick tests with an Android phone I have here, in Apple Music, it seems only Bluetooth is allowed as a connection between the phone and other devices. I guess AirPlay (essentially a WiFi connection) is limited to iOS devices. I can ‘cast’ from android to devices like Google minis etc, but for some reason the Wiim Isn’t showing as device option.
@@homekitnews thanks for your prompt answer. What you said is exactly what I guess. As Bluetooth is the only option, the Hi Res music quality depends on the version of Bluetooth (5.0 or above is good enough to me) equiped with both receiving device (in my case a pair of powered speakers) and sending device, and how the sending device works and streaming product. In my case is a Samsung S22, an Anriod system allowing up to aptX Active quality, with Apple Music as the source. Since Apple Music has upgraded itself to stream up to 24bit/96kHz in a ALAC format, and Samsung S22 is able to send via a similar quality, i.e. aptX Active to speakers, it seems to me that is so far the best solution I can have via Bluetooth. I do not know any device that have WiFi or Earthnet connectivity as the input receiving streaming from Apple Music, at the same time, having screen on itself or via an App using mobile phone to control and select music pieces. After all, I am already taking advantage of a combination of upgraded Apple Music and the last version of Andriod with bluetooth 5.0 for Hi Res music streaming.
@@jayem1826 here’s a link to the track on Apple Music. You’ll only find it on there and Amazon Music. We don’t use any other streaming services. music.apple.com/gb/album/lift-your-life-mr-gones-s%C3%A3o-conrado-samba-mix/1235054347?i=1235054472
If this connects to a CD receiver with standard passive speakers, will the music sent to the Wiim via the app from Amazon, Synology NAS or whatever source, come out via those speakers? I don’t really want to get another pair of wireless or Bluetooth speakers for the NAS when there are decent speakers teaches to the current system. Certainly that’s how Wiim sell it on their website, but it’s not clear how you connect to a legacy system.
As I understand it, as long as your receiving device is - or contains - a powered amplifier, then once the WiiM is connected to the device in question using any of the wired connection options available, the audio streamed from your preferred service will come out of the speakers connected to your device. If you already get audio from your CD receiver coming out of your speakers without any additional equipment, then the WiiM is no different.
If your soundbar has a digital input, which a quick search suggests it does, then yes, you should be getting better sound. It does also depend on how the WiiM is streaming though, so if you stream to the WiiM from your phone using Bluetooth, and then to the WiiM to the soundbar, it would sort of defeat the purpose of the digital connection.
It’ll probably be better, but it’s hard to say for sure, but it depends on the mobile device you connect to your Denon. It would certainly be more convenient.
The type and quality of the power cable will have no effect on the sound quality, but the USB plug should be powerful enough to provide enough electricity to the unit - 5V, 1A.
I use an iphone to stream music in my office but need to find a way to free my iphone up. Will this device allow me to stream without the iphone or do you have a suggestion. My receiver does have bluetooth capabilities.
I tried to get it to play my old Garard AT6 turntable using phono to the aux in 3.5n9n the wiim mini but no sound, I thought this thing had a pre amp? It said that on Amazon description
I just looked at the Amazon listing and couldn’t find any mention of a preamp, although it does show a diagram of devices plugging into it, including a turntable.
Although you could technically plug headphones into the Wiim Mini via the Aux Out, most aux outs do not have built-in headphone amplifiers. Headphones usually have much higher impedance than speakers, so the sound may be very low when using headphones with an aux out. You might need a separate headphone amplifier to get adequate volume.
I have a pair of HomePod 2 and currently stream Tidal to them over Airplay - this kills the iPhone's battery. I want to introduce the WiiM into the equation and use the Tidal connect on the WiiM to stream the music from Tidal to the HomePods over Airplay - thus removing the hit on my phone battery - is this possible?
I read that many of these devices have a rather weak output signal towards the amp you plug it in. Low gain in general does not result in the best output sound dynamics. How does this device operate w.r.t. that subject? Does it have a powerful output, comparable to any average component in your stereo, lik f.i. a tuner or CD player?
Hi, I only really focus on the general use cases and the smart home aspect of it, so I couldn’t really give you any detailed information on the audio quality beyond my own basic experience in using this, sorry. You may want to check out the Pro version that has been released, however - homekitnews.com/2023/01/09/wiim-pro-audio-receiver-released-with-airplay-2/
I guess you could use this with a subwoofer, as long as you have cables that fit it, but I’m not sure if there are specific requirements to drive subwoofers, that an audio out on this doesn’t have. The Arylic A50+ has a dedicated sub woofer output, but then it’s only Airplay 1 - ruclips.net/video/TUSnVa8Vd5g/видео.html - maybe Arylic make something that is suited for subwoofers and is AirPlay 2 enabled though.
Looking to buy this to connect to an old carver Power Amp .Yamaha Pre Amp and B&W DM404 Speakers . It's the first time am hearing some real proper music on an audiophile video like the Afro Elements track [ which I could not find on Spotify ] Also Rodney Franklin is my type of music, , Thanks
I also bought a Belkin Bluetooth receiver to connect my iphone to my Amp but it did not give full sound quality. It cost me about 35 bucks from Amazon . There was a humming sound that was prominent between tracks. The volume on the Amp also had to be turned up to get half decent sound quality. Hope the Viim Mini does not give the same problem . Let me know what you think .
Hi, thanks for the feedback, but I have to be honest and say whilst I know my music (when it comes to Jazz funk, Soul, fusion etc), I can't claim to be an audiophile in the traditional sense. You won't find Afro Elements music on Spotify, only Apple Music, Amazon Music, and Bandcamp. Still, if you liked what you heard, I'd be happy to send you some of the Afro Elements catalogue for free (seeing as its my music). As regards Rodney Franklin - very under-appreciated in my opinion.
@Atelier I don't know the Belkin Bluetooth device, but the Belkin Soundform Connect I mention in the video is actually not bad at all and uses WiFi (2.4 or 5GHz), plus it has come down in price to under US$60 on amazon, so it's actually a lot cheaper than the WiiM. Both are good though, and I can't say I've noticed any distortion or high-pitched frequencies.
Recently my wiim mini airplay doesn’t connect even i checked wifi network are the same. I rebooted, reset and power cycle still cant connect airplay it shows error. The wiim home app network status states excellent though. Any tips will be appreciated!
@@homekitnews error message in itunes An enor occured while connecting to the AirPlay device "WiM Mini-C5xx" . An unknown error occured (-15000). Error message in iphone 13Pro: AirPlay Unable to connect to "WiiM Mini-C5xx".
@@homekitnews yes i can confirm same network and even the wiim home app network status “excellent “ with 5ghz and auto roam off. I done hard reset unpair, power cycles it, still can’t perform the airplay.
@anthonytan8751 unfortunately I’m not sure what else to suggest other than to contact Wiim themselves. I assume you’re not running an iOS17 Beta, are you?
It's a shame that Airplay2 doesn't allow lossless streaming from an iPhone. Once that's done, I'll stick with the Apple Music app. So Tidal is more suitable now.
These reviewers are too long winded for me. I bought one recently, and I used the optical link to my preamp DAC for 24/192 Ultra Hi-Res. The strength of this unit is the App that has enormous capability to setup your music from 16/44.1 to 24/192. It was recently reviewed by Audiophile as the best affordable streamer you can buy. The sound is quite excellent, but you need a smart phone to run the device. Although you can directly play your songs on your computer, that's all your computer can do.
I can't seem to find a diagram showing various possibilities. My amp just busted. It was connected to a Russound impedance control switch with 4 multiroom zones. The amp will bust again if I replace it. The problem is too many speakers and those impedence switches still strain the amp. If I use wiim do I have to buy one amp per zone AND one wiim per zone?
The only devices i have is a Denon amp with bluetooth, a smarth phone and a laptop. Oh , and a tube amp. Also no soundbar or what ever wireless device that,s all. Maybe i am an old fashion audiophile.So the Wimm is not for me👍
It would've been nice to see comparisons between this and the myriad of cast and BT devices that have been available for years, many of which can stream hi-res content to home stereo systems. This product looks like a forced attempt to create a market for s ship that sailed ages ago....oh, but because it's for Apple devices, now it's being done right...right?
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I bought two of these in late October 2022. In each box was a wall plug for the USB-A to USB-C cable. So they both included the power supply.
It could be they didn’t include one in my package in error, but more and more companies are leaving out the power supply these days. Either I was unlucky or you were lucky 😉.
Great video. Do you know if you can create a group inside of AirPlay? I have an AirPlay 2 soundbar, and would like to have it grouped with my in ceiling kitchen speakers to play kitchen audio.
Hi, unfortunately unlike other HomeKit devices, like bulbs etc, you can’t create a group from separate AirPlay 2 devices. The only option of this type is with HomePods, where you can create a stereo pair. There may be ways to create an automation that can be activated via Siri that allows the audio stream to multiple devices using AirPlay 2, but it’s not something I’ve tried myself.
@@aw9nineteen you can group multiple WiiM and Arylic Audio devices if you use the 4Stream app.
I am confused as to what the Line in option does on it? I am looking for something that will stream my turntable to my airplay 2 devices. Any ideas? Thank you for your review and great video.
As I understand it, you should be able to feed an appropriate audio signal into it, and then through the speakers it’s connected to. This ‘should’ allow you to send that signal to other Wiim or Arylic devices within the respective apps, but it won’t work that way with AirPlay 2, as it’s a ‘one way street’ - AirPlay audio is sent to the WiiM, you can’t send audio from the Wiim to other AirPlay devices.
thanks a lot for your explaining the feature of this Wiim Mini. I am using, currenly, my Samsung S22 Ultra as a music source for a pair of active/powered speakers, via Bluetooth 5.0, which deliver 24bit/96kHz quality as so stated. My streaming source of Android S22 is Apple Music, which now offers Hi Res music pieces. I am not sure if (1) Wiim Mini works with Apple Music App on Android, and (2) could the sound improves assuming that the Wiim Mini gets directly the Apple Music via WiFi rather than from my Samsung phone. Any advice?
Hi, after trying a couple of quick tests with an Android phone I have here, in Apple Music, it seems only Bluetooth is allowed as a connection between the phone and other devices. I guess AirPlay (essentially a WiFi connection) is limited to iOS devices. I can ‘cast’ from android to devices like Google minis etc, but for some reason the Wiim Isn’t showing as device option.
@@homekitnews thanks for your prompt answer. What you said is exactly what I guess. As Bluetooth is the only option, the Hi Res music quality depends on the version of Bluetooth (5.0 or above is good enough to me) equiped with both receiving device (in my case a pair of powered speakers) and sending device, and how the sending device works and streaming product. In my case is a Samsung S22, an Anriod system allowing up to aptX Active quality, with Apple Music as the source. Since Apple Music has upgraded itself to stream up to 24bit/96kHz in a ALAC format, and Samsung S22 is able to send via a similar quality, i.e. aptX Active to speakers, it seems to me that is so far the best solution I can have via Bluetooth. I do not know any device that have WiFi or Earthnet connectivity as the input receiving streaming from Apple Music, at the same time, having screen on itself or via an App using mobile phone to control and select music pieces. After all, I am already taking advantage of a combination of upgraded Apple Music and the last version of Andriod with bluetooth 5.0 for Hi Res music streaming.
Does it work with Home Assistant?
Afro Elements? Loved that synthesizer solo
Thanks, I’m glad someone out there spotted it and appreciates it. It’s actually a remix I did of the original Afro Elements track ‘Lift Your Life’.
@@homekitnews Thank you. I'll check it out on one of the streaming services.
I'm also waiting for the Wiim Pro
That track isn't listed on the services
@@jayem1826 here’s a link to the track on Apple Music. You’ll only find it on there and Amazon Music. We don’t use any other streaming services. music.apple.com/gb/album/lift-your-life-mr-gones-s%C3%A3o-conrado-samba-mix/1235054347?i=1235054472
Alternatively, you can hear an abridged version via the music video for this track - ruclips.net/video/cREy5SYrSLY/видео.html
Love this thing. Got mine like a month ago
Great taste in music!
Thanks! I’m glad someone appreciates it.
Love mine! Product of the decade@..
If this connects to a CD receiver with standard passive speakers, will the music sent to the Wiim via the app from Amazon, Synology NAS or whatever source, come out via those speakers? I don’t really want to get another pair of wireless or Bluetooth speakers for the NAS when there are decent speakers teaches to the current system. Certainly that’s how Wiim sell it on their website, but it’s not clear how you connect to a legacy system.
As I understand it, as long as your receiving device is - or contains - a powered amplifier, then once the WiiM is connected to the device in question using any of the wired connection options available, the audio streamed from your preferred service will come out of the speakers connected to your device. If you already get audio from your CD receiver coming out of your speakers without any additional equipment, then the WiiM is no different.
I have a Samsung soundbar q6a series. Can I connect wiim mini to my soundbar for higher quality sound compared to Bluetooth?
If your soundbar has a digital input, which a quick search suggests it does, then yes, you should be getting better sound. It does also depend on how the WiiM is streaming though, so if you stream to the WiiM from your phone using Bluetooth, and then to the WiiM to the soundbar, it would sort of defeat the purpose of the digital connection.
I have small denon hi-fi. Would Sound quality be better with wiim mini than mini jack to AUX cable connected to mobie device?
It’ll probably be better, but it’s hard to say for sure, but it depends on the mobile device you connect to your Denon. It would certainly be more convenient.
@@homekitnews it is iphone 13 conected with lighting to mini jack cable and mini jack to aux cable.
Thank you!
I have fosi v3… i want to buy a bluetooth dac for it… which one would be better if I want to connect via rca - wiim mini or nobsound Q4 ?
I’ve only tested the Wiim Mini so it’s not possible to answer that. You might want to look at the WiiM Pro as well though.
How did you get airplay to show up on your screen? You lost me at 3:27.
The screen you see on the iPhone is just Apple Music/iTunes.
Hi ! Can you tell me what charger must buy to be working good the streamer ? With good cable type c and with good charger are the sound better ?
The type and quality of the power cable will have no effect on the sound quality, but the USB plug should be powerful enough to provide enough electricity to the unit - 5V, 1A.
@@homekitnews Thanks
@@homekitnews Is it ok 5v 3A ?
Yes, it will be fine.
@@homekitnews Thanks again.
I use an iphone to stream music in my office but need to find a way to free my iphone up. Will this device allow me to stream without the iphone or do you have a suggestion. My receiver does have bluetooth capabilities.
@@johnnymasoner8828 where would you be streaming music from - Apple Music, another streaming service, or from your own audio collection?
I tried to get it to play my old Garard AT6 turntable using phono to the aux in 3.5n9n the wiim mini but no sound, I thought this thing had a pre amp? It said that on Amazon description
I just looked at the Amazon listing and couldn’t find any mention of a preamp, although it does show a diagram of devices plugging into it, including a turntable.
Can you connect wired headphones to the WiiM? In order to use these with e.g. an Apple TV.
Although you could technically plug headphones into the Wiim Mini via the Aux Out, most aux outs do not have built-in headphone amplifiers. Headphones usually have much higher impedance than speakers, so the sound may be very low when using headphones with an aux out. You might need a separate headphone amplifier to get adequate volume.
Thank you! @@homekitnews
I have a pair of HomePod 2 and currently stream Tidal to them over Airplay - this kills the iPhone's battery. I want to introduce the WiiM into the equation and use the Tidal connect on the WiiM to stream the music from Tidal to the HomePods over Airplay - thus removing the hit on my phone battery - is this possible?
I don’t believe it’s possible. You can only stream to the WiiM not from it.
@@homekitnews Thanks for that - it has returned to Amazon.
Hello, on this product what is the version of Bluetooth and with which extension EDR, A2DP or others?
Hi, it’s uses Bluetooth 5.0 with SBC, which is part of the A2DP Bluetooth profile.
I read that many of these devices have a rather weak output signal towards the amp you plug it in. Low gain in general does not result in the best output sound dynamics. How does this device operate w.r.t. that subject? Does it have a powerful output, comparable to any average component in your stereo, lik f.i. a tuner or CD player?
Hi, I only really focus on the general use cases and the smart home aspect of it, so I couldn’t really give you any detailed information on the audio quality beyond my own basic experience in using this, sorry. You may want to check out the Pro version that has been released, however - homekitnews.com/2023/01/09/wiim-pro-audio-receiver-released-with-airplay-2/
can I add a powered subwoofer to my stereo homepod setup/? thank you
I guess you could use this with a subwoofer, as long as you have cables that fit it, but I’m not sure if there are specific requirements to drive subwoofers, that an audio out on this doesn’t have. The Arylic A50+ has a dedicated sub woofer output, but then it’s only Airplay 1 - ruclips.net/video/TUSnVa8Vd5g/видео.html - maybe Arylic make something that is suited for subwoofers and is AirPlay 2 enabled though.
Are you able to speak into the HomePod and have Siri respond through the sound bar?
No, that’s not possible.
Hi, if i have Android device with Apple Music, can I cast via Airplay to the Wiim? thanks
I believe AirPlay is exclusive to Apple devices, but there should be other ways of streaming audio from your Android phone to the WiiM.
Looking to buy this to connect to an old carver Power Amp .Yamaha Pre Amp and B&W DM404 Speakers . It's the first time am hearing some real proper music on an audiophile video like the Afro Elements track [ which I could not find on Spotify ] Also Rodney Franklin is my type of music, , Thanks
I also bought a Belkin Bluetooth receiver to connect my iphone to my Amp but it did not give full sound quality. It cost me about 35 bucks from Amazon . There was a humming sound that was prominent between tracks. The volume on the Amp also had to be turned up to get half decent sound quality. Hope the Viim Mini does not give the same problem . Let me know what you think
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Hi, thanks for the feedback, but I have to be honest and say whilst I know my music (when it comes to Jazz funk, Soul, fusion etc), I can't claim to be an audiophile in the traditional sense. You won't find Afro Elements music on Spotify, only Apple Music, Amazon Music, and Bandcamp. Still, if you liked what you heard, I'd be happy to send you some of the Afro Elements catalogue for free (seeing as its my music). As regards Rodney Franklin - very under-appreciated in my opinion.
@Atelier I don't know the Belkin Bluetooth device, but the Belkin Soundform Connect I mention in the video is actually not bad at all and uses WiFi (2.4 or 5GHz), plus it has come down in price to under US$60 on amazon, so it's actually a lot cheaper than the WiiM. Both are good though, and I can't say I've noticed any distortion or high-pitched frequencies.
Recently my wiim mini airplay doesn’t connect even i checked wifi network are the same. I rebooted, reset and power cycle still cant connect airplay it shows error. The wiim home app network status states excellent though. Any tips will be appreciated!
What error is showing and is the error in the Home app?
@@homekitnews error message in itunes An enor occured while connecting to the AirPlay device
"WiM Mini-C5xx"
. An unknown error occured (-15000).
Error message in iphone 13Pro:
AirPlay
Unable to connect to "WiiM Mini-C5xx".
@@anthonytan8751 is everything on the same WiFi network? If yes, have you tried to do a full factory reset of the device as well?
@@homekitnews yes i can confirm same network and even the wiim home app network status “excellent “ with 5ghz and auto roam off. I done hard reset unpair, power cycles it, still can’t perform the airplay.
@anthonytan8751 unfortunately I’m not sure what else to suggest other than to contact Wiim themselves. I assume you’re not running an iOS17 Beta, are you?
Hello, does it have auto turn off? Because i dont want that. Thanks❤
It does not have an Auto off feature that I can see. There’s no mention of this in the settings for the device.
Can I sync this with homepods?
It has AirPlay 2 functionality, so you can sync audio between these and other AirPlay devices, including HomePod and HomePod Mini.
Hi, is it compatible with Android device..? Thanks
Hi, yes there’s also an Android version of the app.
It's a shame that Airplay2 doesn't allow lossless streaming from an iPhone. Once that's done, I'll stick with the Apple Music app. So Tidal is more suitable now.
These reviewers are too long winded for me. I bought one recently, and I used the optical link to my preamp DAC for 24/192 Ultra Hi-Res. The strength of this unit is the App that has enormous capability to setup your music from 16/44.1 to 24/192. It was recently reviewed by Audiophile as the best affordable streamer you can buy. The sound is quite excellent, but you need a smart phone to run the device. Although you can directly play your songs on your computer, that's all your computer can do.
I can't seem to find a diagram showing various possibilities. My amp just busted. It was connected to a Russound impedance control switch with 4 multiroom zones. The amp will bust again if I replace it. The problem is too many speakers and those impedence switches still strain the amp. If I use wiim do I have to buy one amp per zone AND one wiim per zone?
No YT music? Pfffff..
You only get 256 AAC not lossless.
I like this device except for its glossy finish.
The only devices i have is a Denon amp with bluetooth, a smarth phone and a laptop. Oh , and a tube amp. Also no soundbar or what ever wireless device that,s all. Maybe i am an old fashion audiophile.So the Wimm is not for me👍
It would've been nice to see comparisons between this and the myriad of cast and BT devices that have been available for years, many of which can stream hi-res content to home stereo systems. This product looks like a forced attempt to create a market for s ship that sailed ages ago....oh, but because it's for Apple devices, now it's being done right...right?
This channel is about Apple HomeKit, and by extension, Apple AirPlay, so other systems are not going to be featured on this channel, regardless of how long they’ve been available.