The School That Did Unspeakable Things: Elan School
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- Опубликовано: 26 янв 2023
- In today's episode, we’ll be exploring the history of the Elan School, a private coeducational boarding and general academic school for adolescents in 8th through 12th grade with emotional, behavioral, and adjustment problems. But were kids really being reformed at Elan? Depending on who you talk to, the Élan School was either considered life saving or pure hell. Over the years, a number of former Elan students have made claims that the school’s methods were outright abusive. Was this a case of tough love or were lines being crossed? Did the public REALLY know what was going on behind closed doors at this "professional center"? And did I mention yet that the school was open until 2011?
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They took me to Excelsior Youth Center kind of like this. Woke up at 3 am from this HUGE mountain of a woman. “ I’m from Excelsior Youth Center and you are coming with us “ there were two more people there. I was twelve years old and it was terrifying. When I got there, got into an altercation, ended up being locked in solitary confinement for about five months. They would take your mattress at five am and you just sat all day. You were at the mercy of staff to use the restroom. Ironically they called it TLC stood for Treatment Learning Center. I didn’t learn anything nor was there any treatment. Places like this need to be closed down and teenagers who are institutionalized should be monitored by a third party who has their best interest.
Jamie, I’m so sorry you had to go through that! I can not even imagine. 12 years old, taken from home, spending 5 months in solitary…💔
They were monsters!
Jamie Cobb! This mountain of a woman probably hated herself- for having to shut off human emotion for her stupid job, because she had kids/grandchildren of her own, and it was impossible for her to switch back and forth with out many people suffering. You were in second place, and I’m sorry. I forgot what caused you to get there, though!
@@juliepeterson6639 lack of supervision as a pre teen led me to make mistakes. Nothing violent, just shenanigans and running away from horrible foster homes.
Oh there was treatment. Just unimaginably CRUEL. I'm sorry this happened to you and I hope you're on a healing path.
I wish someone would do a follow up on the people in the documentary; a “where are they now.” I’d love to hear their thoughts now that they are adults. I love your content. New subscriber! 😊
I was thinking the same thing! How did they turn out. Horrifying for them.
I’m a banker, and got out 2002
hav yet to watch this but listened to a vid yest from ex-baphomet guy who escaped his family otherwise he'd be wearing dresses today he says, etc.
He said illuminati would send their children to Elan for instruction/training, sometimes it takes sometimes it doesnt, did not work on this guy Hans, thank God.
All the best
This is horrific. The fact that this place stayed open so long speaks volumes. I'm starting to realize that the majority of the population is DEEPLY DISTURBED. It's scary. Hearing that guy justify that institutions practices was sick. They straight up abused those kids and than brainwashed them into thinking they needed it!? Nobody NEEDS to hear they should have their throat cut. Im appalled!
I wholeheartedly agree. This abuse is beyond shocking and that no one was held accountable is unbelievable.
That the authorities at the hospital did nothing is criminal in itself!
Thank God it ended 2011, but it shouldn't have been started.
I cannot help but wonder how ingrained this became in the kids and how it affected their spouses and kids.
Look at the atrocities humans are responsible for. Concentration camps, "witch" burnings, the crusades...most people at the time condoned these things. It's scary how evil people can become. Yet we never learn from history. We think we are a more civilized society, but I remember a very short time ago a large part of the population demanding that others be barred from hospitals and left to die if they didn't do what the "majority" wanted them to do. Human beings are disgusting.
So, basically, one came out a broken human being. They came out worse that when they went in. Utterly disgusting!! The doctor said, at one point, that “If your a baby, you get screamed at...”. Good way to teach students how to treat a baby!!!
That was also my immediate reaction.
Mine too!
What I can't get over is how much it cost to go to the school it was more than most of the really expensive private schools that's crazy
I didn't go to any program, my mother gave me the same abuse at home for free. I can't see how yelling at a person telling they are worthless and calling them names, would make them want to be better. When you degrade someone over and over again, that person slowly becomes the ugly name they are called. Like you said, why try if I'm just failing even when I try my best? If you've suffered mental or emotional abuse, it doesn't have to be a dead end. Its really tough but if you can manage to climb out the hole they buried you in, you'll know exactly what not to do to people you love and raise a child to love themselves as they are. What type of school would ever want to just put more damaged teens into the world? just to pass on to the next generation? As long as you can learn to better, there is a happy ending to your dark story. I can't change the world and help every child, but atleast I know my 2 children won't ever have to know what it's like to question if their mother ever really loved them. That's all I can do. Hope these students learned that as well.
Well said!! And I’m so sorry you had to endure abusive treatment at the hands of someone who should have been a safe person for you.
I am so sorry and it sounds familiar
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Absolutely 👍 wishing you much happiness and good health thanks for your heartfelt share ❤
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When I first heard about this school, I was absolutely appalled at what they did to these kids. Not even bullies from other schools deserved this treatment! I'm just glad it's been shut down. I've been down this rabbit hole for almost a year and I'm still shocked.
This is so traumatizing to hear! I grew up exactly like this in Massachusetts and it was absolute horror!! I am now 43 and STILL fighting to be a normal human being after this kind of treatment in your most crucial time of development! 😭
One word. Abuse
Absolutely disgusting,barbaric and heartless! I cannot believe those twisted adults did this to all those kids!..Talk about brainwashing and child abuse!…I also cannot believe no adults blew the whistle on this as soon as they saw what was going on (nurse? Teachers?Cook? Hospital staff)???? All these adults should have been thrown in jail never to be released!
those who did successfully grad "work" in gov and industry now as classically trained, criminally insane, abusive tyrannical hypocrites a la their schooling
When I first heard of Élan, I remembered feeling that I would never trust anyone, especially my parents, ever again if I went there. Knowing my parents knew what was going to happen for some aspects, if I got back home, I would never speak to them again.
Your parents didn't know the reality of things that happened there.
We were forced to Lie to our parents. Even when they visited we were monitored every minute.
@@josephna4403 I mostly mean the whole “faked abduction” scenario. I can’t blame them for not knowing what actually happened there, but that recruitment situation is such a huge red flag. Even if I know it’s not really their fault, I don’t think I’d trust anyone ever again all the same. I’d be too used to people hearing my vulnerabilities and exploring them.
Hearing that poor girl say, "I just hate myself so much." absolutely ripped my heart out of my chest, and knowing that was the goal of these so called general meetings made me want to go find the adults in charge of this treatment and rip their hearts out of their chests.
This place didn't provide appropriate treatment, it was just abusive and cruel. No one deserves to be belittled and broken down, especially under the guise of medical treatment. The adults who ran this house of horrors ought to be behind bars for of the rest of their pathetic lives. How they could treat people like that is beyond me.
Wondering if this is the type of program Paris Hilton was in..that scarred her as a teen..this program is disgusting..the leaders who created this program are power trip monsters.. this also reminds me of The Stanford Prison Experiment
Yes, Paris Hilton was in something similar! It was Provo Canyon.
The Stanford experiment pretty much assigned groups and left them to their own accord. The goal was to see how the power structure affected a society when it was allowed to progress "naturally". This school literally forced kids to abuse each other.
These places have been all over Utah, US. for decades. Everyone here knows what their about. Does that stop parents from sending their kids to places like this? NO! The usual offense is skipping church and having a bad attitude at home. You know, acting like a teenager.
They used incident books in my son’s school starting in kindergarten. Every afternoon the kids had anger and conflict management. By 7-8th grade the kids were working problems out themselves with the teacher only there to guide them if needed.
For other schools in the district, anger and conflict management was done one semester in 10th grade. 30% of kids dropped out of high school never to graduate, and only 80% of what’s left made it to collage, even with college being paid by the state.
Of the students who did anger management since kindergarten, they’ve had 100% graduating high school and 98% going to college. Apparently kids that aren’t distracted by petty disputes actually learn better and enjoy school more . Who would of thought that.
To be honest, most kids hated the program in elementary even though they benefited from the results.😮
Where was this? Very good and interesting , your kids were lucky to have that experience. Was it someone / university doing research?
@@wendy-wf8ijI’d like to read more about this as well. 😊
The punishments are the same punishments that my drug fueled biological father made me do when I was between ages 7-12 and when I was finished he would beat me with a belt buckle. He would also give me alcohol when he had parties when he had me for the weekend and I don’t know what it was, but he put something in it that made me sleep. Sorry y’all. That part just brought back memories of my childhood and I needed to vent.
I'm so sorry that you had to go through such things growing up. I, too, went through much abuse as a child while simultaneously having a fairly good childhood depending on where I was. Sounds strange, doesn't it? It makes me feel guilty, but I also grew up to be a super protective Mother. Anyhow, I'm rambling. Just know, there are other people that understand what you're going through. Stay strong. Be well. Stay safe. ❤
So sorry that happened to you. Hope you got some therapy and on a journey of healing.❤❤
Horrific, traumatizing, abusive, and damaging. Paris Hilton's documentary a year or so ago made this more public and she is trying to shut these places down across the country.
She’s honestly awesome for speaking up about what happened to her.
I have no idea how I ended up in this cult rabbit hole... but I'm so glad I did. Because that's how I found your channel. Your videos are absolutely amazing! Looking forward to watching them all.
Oh my gosh…reading your comment just made my day! You have no idea. Thank you!! 💛
@@ArmchairInvestigator You are a living doll. There's something about you, a very welcoming attractiveness. You have a sweet voice, gentle, calm and comforting.
You wanna act like a baby, you get screamed at 😮.
Wow! Because that's how we treat babies 🤔? ❌ 🆘️ 🚩
“Realistic concepts”- makes him wear bunny suit 🤦🏽♂️
Sounds like it's worse than a prison.
They had to always be "on". No time to relax and be a kid.
The kids must have felt so defeated to be forced to fake their well being in calls and letters to home omg
I enjoy your unique style and content. Its professional and informative. It’s great to learn about new cases and not just more of the same thing that everyone is suddenly doing.
I appreciate you saying that! Glad you enjoyed
anyone else getting Stanford Prison Experiment vibes from this school?
YES!!! Totally. It's so scary to think people can "become so controlled" when they know they are doing an experiment, let alone when you do NOT know that it's an experiment. So scary. 😮
I wonder how many suicides took place. If I were sent there I would have escaped. They would have one hell of a time trying to find me. There's no way a person would be able to function properly in the real world after enduring that hell. Verbal and physical abuse. People eyeballing and ratting on each other it's enough to drive a person mad. I am sure people lost their minds there. I bet a lot of bad things happen that have never been told.
That's fucked up to tell anyone especially an adolescent that cruel shit they're doing in the general meeting! That is not discipline that is punishment. Discipline is done with the goal of training the person you love. Punishment is nothing but Revenge and cruelty intended to inflict harm and pain
The JOE RICCI, Character is a bully. I hope that he has some IDEAR that he ruined a whole lot of lives. And i am sure alot of other employees did as well. The DR. WOW!! Just a bunch of LOSERS ruining lives. THEY WERE THE ONES WHO SHOULD HAVE BEEN PUNCHED ON, AND PADDLED. I AM EMBARRASSED AS A HUMAN BEING TO KNOW THAT THESE THINGS HAVE HAPPENED AND PROBABLY STILL DO. I PRAY FOR ALL . I AM SO SORRY, SO VERY SORRY.
God this is so similar to CRASH. I had to go there, mandated by the court, and i became extremely closed off. Spent two days facing a wall. Spent i don't know how many hours on a bench through the time there. Had people yelling at me during encounters. People writing slips on me for good knows what. And got in trouble myself for not making good enough slips on others. I started to be disappointed each day that i woke up because i was always hoping i just wouldn't. I'm still very closed off to this day.
Omgosh -__- this totally takes me back, and not in a good way. In 1980-81, I and many other kids in the neighborhood were put in hospitals for up to 6 months for being delinquent, or for any other reason it seemed. It was the thing parents did back then. That was the minimum first step. After release from the hospital, which was almost always due to insurance funds running out, a treatment plan would be put together to decide next steps. Would it be residential school for a year? Either Elan in Maine or Brownsville in Texas. Or would you get to go home and go to a "therapeutic" day school? The hospital was horrible enough but the residential schools were absolute h3ll and really messed a lot of people up. Knowing your parent(s) were good with the decision of you going to h3ll, just made it worse. A friend from the hospital went to Elan, and I saw him once when he was released. He wouldn't talk about his experience at all and I never saw him again. My best friend went to Brownsville and everything went downhill for her after that. I miss her. I was lucky or blessed or whatever you want to call it, because although the day school I went to wasn't perfect, I credit it with getting me through high school. The hospital was a really bad experience but watching this confirms that I really did dodge a bull3t. I heard so many bad stories from other kids at school about Elan. I actually kept a "go" bag with clothes and stuff by my bedroom window because I was afraid they (Elan staff) would kidnap me even though I was sent to day school. I can't believe that place wasn't closed until 2011. That is flippin crazy!
Is your E key messed up?
My husband's mother was 14 when she had him, so was not equipped to be a responsible parent since she was still a child. He was in an out of foster care, but then sent to residential treatment centers(juvie). He has told me horrifying stories of peer physical and emotional abuse forced by staff, sleep deprivation, starvation, forced exercise, labor, and fights among clients set up by staff, as well as attack therapy. He was 12 when first sent, my poor baby. He grew up fast and has a lot of ptsd that he doesn't want to deal with. My man has so many amazing qualities, but the RTC's and Therapeutic homes definitely grew him a thick skin at an early age and he learned how to fight and take care of himself from an early age. He was also getting his ass whooped by moms boyfriends if at home, but he's made it through.
This is so sad to read. Hate thinking about any person having to go through this. 💔
I can tell you have a lot of love your husband; I’m so glad he has you. Take care of each other. ❤️
Excellent show! You are fantastic. 😎👍❤️ Such terrible atrocities done to these young people especially when their parents paid for it! 😱
❤🙏🏻👍🏻I’ve learned a great deal from every story you’ve shared and backed up stories with documented evidence that everyone can easily fact check and actual video. I’m not one who believes views without evidence. I enjoy your compassionate words, tone of voice and manner of presentation while making each story, no matter how unconscionable and/or horrifying bearable enough to learn about. Thank you for exposing necessary truths in an effort to affect change. 🙏🏻
Sad thing is, there are still centres run on a similar model. Now that we know better, we should do better.
You have the perfect voice and speak slow enough so it's well understood, love your channel ❤️
Thank you, Nancy! 💛
You’ve really put together such an amazing, thorough review of Élan that I find so intriguing. I had heard of Élan, but never knew what it did behind its walls other than it was for trouble teens and had a high success rate when I read an article about it. The guy who put this all together was a troubled teen himself who, I feel, took his aggression out on the students at Élan. He got off on being the head of this deranged place and the way he minimized what was going on is deplorable. He did’t want people to see what was really going on there so he could keep his funding to continue his programs. What the kids were saying to each other, the way they degraded each other for hours sometimes, really broke my heart. My mother did the same thing to me my whole life. At least we didn’t have to pay the $54,000.00+ for me to live within the program. I got it all at home. Thanks so much for all your research, time and effort you put in to bring us the truth about Élan. I just found your channel and sick bed immediately! ❤
Sick
This is so disturbing…I feel I could be traumatized just by watching the films they made. It’s just horrible! How did these children grow into functional, kind adults? This is sick.
Clearly a traumatizing environment for a kid to grow up in.
I just subscribed, loved your coverage of "Genie" Susan Wileys story .
I really am excited now to watch the rest of your content, thank you.
Awe, that makes me so happy! Thank you.
Unfortunately I Was exiled to that evil hell hole from 90-93, when they were forced to spit me back out on the streets, WAY more cynical & dangerous than before. I knew Dawn. That poor girls elan experience ended in the worst way. She was a good girl that never belonged there, so sad.
What I take from this is...George Orwell's 1984....Big Brother is watching you. Does not work. Nobody likes a tatteltale.
The fact that places like this still are open... is awful. Being sent to many wilderness camps in the 90s as a young teen.... I will never stop advocating for their closure.
A big difference between Aloan and Teen Challenge. Is that Teen is that Challenge is on a voluntary basis only. You can NOT be court ordered or forced into it. They only want people there who are fully committed to change. And wiling to submit to the process. In fact you have to write a full-length letter telling them why you want to commit to the program for one year. On top of that every bit of teaching is based on the Holy Bible. The staff are loving, wise, and nurturing people who become like family and many become life long friends. But, don't overlook the word challenge in the title. Because it's definitely based love and discipline. Students are taught obedience and to follow instructions with a good attitude. They are also taught self-discipline self-control. We studied the Bible work tired, gained confidence and a true sense of our own worth and fail you through Christ. They have an eighty-six percent success rate for people overcoming alcohol and drug addiction. That was a government survey based on graduates who had been out of the program for five years. For me it's been 35 years. It hasn't been perfect. I relapsed several times and even returned to crime and drug addiction for several years. But once again I have returned and now been cleaning sober for over 15 years. Glory to God forever more. I'll forever be so thankful for Teen Challenge
This was just down the road from where I lived in Maine, and my hubs whole family is from this area. It's crazy that you heard about this place, and these kids were going through hell out there!
Back in 2010 I was delving oil to Elon school in Poland and I remember hearing yelling and screaming from most of the camp like cabins I thought this place was for Developmental disabilities but when the kids came outside they all look normal the campus is still there today you get instant bad vibes from this place 😭
So telling that you instantly get bad vibes from the place! 💔
It's now on private property with security cameras, so unless you get permission, they will have trespassers arrested.
2006? 2011? If I hadn't heard it, I would swear it was the 60's, up to, let's say 80's, (the most). It would be perfect for my mother, a taste of her medicine; always being criticized, told you're good for nothing, being guilty for every thing in this world, zero trust and many more. Sad!!!
In Teen Challenge we were told how we were loved by a heavenly father that most of us did not even believe in much less deserve. We were handed out disciplines as they were needed but mostly we were reinforced with love by self-controlled adults
No one ever put Hands On Us in Teen Challenge. The worst discipline a person could get would be loss of a weekend visit with your parents. Students with minor children got visits every week regardless. You could also get an all day 9-5 work duty on Saturday. Anything beyond that you got dismissed/ sent home. A student could return after 30 days in most cases.
There's another main difference between the Teen Challenge program I completed and this problematic program. Teen Challenge is a Ministry first not a business. While it is completely privately funded, neither tuition nor in intake fee are required. They brought me directly from jail with the clothes on my back. I was fully supported the full year and even blessed with beautiful clothes to wear and a place to stay when I graduated.
Please do a deep dive video on Teen and Adult Challenge. There are I believe 600 world wide. I graduated from Western Michigan Teen Challenge in 1991 its still open and thriving today in Muskegon Michigan
When my brother was 15 he was court ordered to a place in Albion Michigan called Star Common Wealth that place was crazy violent 😊
I went to school with a woman whose son died at Teen Challenge due to their lack of monitoring. It is a long and very traumatic story but no Teen Challenge is as cult worthy as any place.
Your docs are so informative. Ive been suggesting your channel to others. You get into the depth of each subject. Its so very appreciated. I thoroughly enjoy watching each one. Thank you!
The structure reminds me of Scientology's Cadet Org for kids.
How very disturbing and traumatizing. That poor girl in the dunce cap. 😥 As if the whole thing isn't horrific enough, the kids didn't even seem to realize how abusive it was. It's as if they were shamed into thinking they deserved that type of punishment. 💔
That Joe character was a very sick man.
I have to say, I just now started watching you tell this story. I've never watched you before but, you are awesome.
I am a Storyteller of sorts myself, but I have to say you got that scary, something's gonna happen next that's gonna floor you, but I'm not gonna let you know it's coming. Sneaky..... hehehe..... I love it.
To me you've almost got that Mr. BALLEN VIBE!?.
Either way, to have watched a lot of other podcasts with several different Tellers of fiction and non, I'll have to say you are Very Good. And you do it with a delivery of HI I'm Mother Goose, but if you listen long enough you see I'm really a Grimm Sister. 😮😂
Just found you. Loving it you're so calm, yet emotive good job. Binging now!
Watched your Synanon video, so informative.
Interesting connection to this video.
Thank you
Glad you liked it, Claudia!
What I want to know is where where the parents? I'm not saying all the parents but I think some of the parents should have been held responsible for what happened their children. I also wonder how much money was given to who in the state of Maine for allowing that school to be there?? I have PTSD just from listening to you! Thank you for the video, it's so hard to hear but people need to know! My prayers go out to all the children that were in that school!
Back then, there were school pamphlets that made Elan think it was just a boarding school on the outside of it
Some school districts also paid for some kids to go there, or the parent uses their salary to pay
What in the actual f*** am I watching? This is f'n crazy. Tears.
Forcing kids to police and humiliate each other: the American Way!
New subscriber! ❤ I really enjoy the way you tell these stories!
This channel is interesting for me. I love the way she covers stories but her voice relaxes me so much at the same time that I fall asleep during the videos. I have to go back for what I missed but it's worth it.
Thank you for watching. 😊💛
This is not therapy. This is abuse. I was in a Christian Brorhers School in the mid sixties.
We were spanked on our bare bottoms every morning, to remind us what we'd endure should we misbehave.
I realized that it was more than a prophylactic measure...in later years...
That being said....abuse is abuse...not therapy.
Thank you for covering this story.p
💯 Facts! And I’m sorry for the abuse that you endured at the hands of the Brothers.💔
Beautifully written and spoken as always.
Thank you kindly! It’s always so nice to hear from you. ☺️
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@@ArmchairInvestigator Ready for another very soon!!!!!!!
I worked in a therapeutic community and the encounter circles are still being done. I worked with adults and it was hard on them, I can’t imagine a child going through this. I had to quit because it was so hard to watch the guys go through this. It’s not therapeutic to yell at a person for their shoes being untied when their mother died the day before.
Thanks for sharing this horror. My heart goes out to the victims & survivors.💔
PS, that was one of the most informative examinations of that Place I've heard to date, ty.
The saddest part is that Rosemary was only mildly behind learning wise until the lobotomy. And the temper tantrums that were part of the reason Joe decided to have her lobotomised were no doubt mostly due to frustration than to any mental illness
Im glad you did this report about elan!!! Thank you!😢Devastating place
That is the same as Peninsula Village..it destroyed my daughter's life..an then mine
Failure is the act of not trying
Everything else is varying degrees of success
Wow, this awesome content. Great editing!
If you act like a baby you get yelled at.
Uh yeah, because you yell at babies.
I paused at the booking list. I wouldn't want to have been around Lisa, she was booking everybody!
On second thought, after watching more of this; there is nothing trivial about this. It's completely horrible.
You did give me a chuckle over Lisa…but you’re right, the things they did there were horrendous. 💛
Sending you healing❤& prayers!
I am thankful there has been more light shed on this school. It has been real disappointing that your family could send their own children to a place like this. The type of mental abuse will be with me forever. At times I have blacked out this school. Seeing pictures of just the house dorms are traumatizing. I wouldn’t wish is place on anyone. I’m glad it was shut down forever.
Good morning i have something to watch at work this morning 😊thank you
I hope you enjoy it! 💛
All I can say is I’m thankful I was a troubled child and didn’t go there then 3 minute showers was not going to work
If these teens were never abused and never came from fatherless homes..I wonder how much less "delinquents" there would be..
Many well to do families, still married, sent their problematic kids there. I know the Kennedy’s did.
Money has nothing to do with abuse and even being fatherless. Hard to handle children come from walks of life.
This is just sick ass adults getting their jollies off of kids actively fucking killing each other and destroying each other. This is disgusting.
There was a girl in my area who was sent to Elan back on the early 2000’s. She went, got pregnant at the school, was kicked out, and named the baby Elan. Lol. I was still a kid when I heard about this but it was very much scandalous. I mean her parents paid no telling how much out of pocket to send her there. They were the type that are very big on their outward facade they showed to the world so their daughter rebelling wasn’t gonna happen. I remember people saying it was like they basically paid for their daughter to get pregnant. Little Elan is prob about 20 or so now. I better be careful.
I spent a year at a very strict program called Teen and Adult Challenge. While some people will tell you it was Christian boot camp. For me it was the most important year of my life and in many ways the happiest too. Drug free, depression free, and alive in Christ is how I left as a graduate 🎓
Train up a child in the way (Jesus) he should go and when he's old he will never depart from it.
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Love your hair!!! ❤
Hearing Joe Ricci in lecture mode sent my brain spinning and I felt panic. 40 years later and he voice still scares me.
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Absolutely makes me sick that these kids were subjected to this type of abuse!
I would have been there for a long long time and probably never be promoted kudos to those that survive these places
🤣 but also 😢💔
In Mao's Communist China that is how people were treated who didn't go along with the propaganda. They were "struggled", which meant that the person was put in front of crowds of people with a dunce hat on, where they were yelled at and humiliated. They were sent to prison, and/or killed for being a rebel, or capitalist, such as a landlord, teacher, doctor, land owner, businessman, etc.
I first heard of Elan boarding school on redbar radio. The host of the show went there. I was always fascinated by his personality and wondered why he is the way he is. Well I guess it's partly due to horrible trauma. 😥
I attended Bethesda Youth Services and they were nothing like that. We had dorms and separate wings. One for the girls and the boys. If we got into trouble we were put in a pit which was in the dorm living room and our peers would give us negative feedback but we were taught in a constructive way. There were rules to follow. We ate as a group and we also had chores and we earned privileges and we were not allowed to control other's
You have a lovely sympathetic comforting voice.
Very deranged place, disruptive, backwards, inhumane , clever in telling what it is but ruining a life…the whole set up is insane…
New subscriber... I thought I’d give this channel a try for a bit of variety.
Thanks for subscribing!
Correct me if I am wrong but isn't Alan the place where the daughter is sent to in the novel Baby Teeth?
I’m triggered just watching this. It breaks my heart 💔
These poor children, no wonder we’re in so much trouble.
It's horrible they punish the girl for having syphilis for for asking for a dog but I do see value in some of the discipline
Sounds like Scientology. There, I said it.
This is awful. How many suicides were caused by this. Holy shit
Honestly if I thought I was being kidnapped I would fight for my life
How horrible!! God Bless you 🙏
This is the worst form of punishment that I’ve ever heard of!!
That’s awful. This is why so many are hateful. Whoever says they wish they were back in the ‘good ole times’ are fkin insane. They were either placed in these places, witnessed, was treated like this and thought it actually helped them or they were sheltered so much that they thought everything was alright and their time was just peachy keen when there was so much hate and secrets not talked about and nobody cared about it. It’s not that I’m being disrespectful, it’s that I see the BS that my ancestors and my elders were taught and how they were treated as children. It was a different time, but it doesn’t mean it is or was right.
How does yelling help?
Thank you for your insightful and informative video. I had no idea in the USA such places would exist at all.
All the information provided indicated that the school wasn’t closed because those who should close those torture places were heavily corrupted. There is no other reason why private programs wouldn’t close, because they paid billions in bribes, to the officials. There wouldn’t be other reason to explain it. One thing I don’t get, how none of the parents sued them after their children got put of the program? Are there any cases? Were they forced to retrieve?
So, basically from the money that was paid to them, they were spending cents on personnel, as the rest was done by students themselves.
Giving a person a task you KNOW they can't handle is setting them up for failure and will only breed resentment and distrust. The people who ran the "school" clearly had their own unresolved issues. And now they had power. What a recipe for disaster! Those kids were thrown to the wolves by their shite parents and the state.
I don't think the concepts were bad but the approaches were, not rooted in kindness. The Karen-to-be should not have been screamed at, she said it helped her but I was wondering if she could have received those same messages in a different way. As the eldest of six, I went out into the world thinking others my age should defer to me, years would pass before the light went off. I was not being intentionally bossy, it was my role in the family to make decisions. I sort of got away with it because, in my decision-making, I always considered others' feelings and/or wants, just not the ones where their decision would topple mine, lol.
I wonder whatever happened to these kids. 🧡🙏🏻
New to group from West Texas 👋 solar I love the videos
I hope you go far
You’re so sweet, Michell! Thank you! 💛