This is more realistic than another video I just tried. Tom Holland does a negative press, which didn't work for me, as you need a lot of strength in the shoulders. This demo is perfect for the step BEFORE Tom's negatives. Thanks you 🩷
I am surprised and pleased because something you showed me in this video helped me understand in a new way and catch a great handstand just now. it's pretty exhilarating. thanks
thanks, the free-standing press has eluded me for years. I can straddle hop to full vertical freestanding and slowly lower and I can fully forward fold with my chest to thighs and can press up with back to wall lowering egression straight legs straddle in reps but cannot get an increment of my toe points to lift. I'll give this drill a go...
Elevation of the traps and much force is required from traps than in normal HS. 1:13 it’s the rounding of the back that makes the shoulder close not so much that the shoulders are closing unlike in planche. 4:50 it’s not about how far you can lean, it’s about how much can you resist leaning forward. It’s a paradox, our shoulders are leaning forward but we are actively trying to press up with traps and actively trying to press backwards with traps elevated and that idea of Leaning your trap elevated & round back shoulders upto finger tip distance is enough. And the idea if back rounding reinforce that as well.
I've been doing a version of the first exercise in my warmup. I basically start from a pushup position lean slightly as in a planche lean and then drag my feet towards my hands and basically ending in the position you showed. I will try this one though and incorporate the cues you talked about as I'm sure they'll make a difference! One question: palms to the floor is in regards to front fold/pike flexibility. What about pancake flexibility for press to handstand? What degree of flexibility is optimal in the pancake to start working/training towards a press?
pancake and pike flex are both important. the more flexible you are, the more potential you have for better technique. That being said there are many elements at play here, so start working on the press anyway and continue to improve your flexibility
What besides flexibility shoulder flexion strength determines ones ability to string some multiple press hs for reps i can no problem press standing from the bottom but struggle to lower down the legs and aim for multiple reps?
technique, balance, maybe just practice. it could be that you're just not used to performing the press in a new way and that's where the difficulty comes in too hard for me to say without seeing you do it
@@Asadc1995 no, the intentions between both are very different. Planche is leaning forward, while press is about pushing down while minimizing forward lean I have a video on planche as well if you want to check that out
@@yurimar Yuri your seem like a guy that knows from years of experiences. And thank your for debunking the might of core strength for press HS. But last question The one were your are chest to wall resisting the forward lean does it also work on as in one of your previous videoes on correcting the mini planche and i saw it on your instagram that you also teach those handstand wall leans as some sort of assistance exercise for Freestanding HSPU.
Is it bad to turn your hands sideways when doing this? I just started trying this a couple months ago and in the last couple weeks, I've discovered if I turn my hands sideways, I can get my feet off the ground for a second or two. For whatever reason, I can't get any lift when my fingers are straight forward.
it reduces pressure on the wrist and changes the load on the shoulders slightly. ultimately when you do a press handstand on the floor your fingers will be forward, so if that's the goal you probably need to train your wrists more
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This is more realistic than another video I just tried. Tom Holland does a negative press, which didn't work for me, as you need a lot of strength in the shoulders.
This demo is perfect for the step BEFORE Tom's negatives.
Thanks you 🩷
Fab. I needed this. my shoulders are super weak😊👍
Thank you for taking the time to make this, quality information!
cheers!
Fantastic!!! I never really understood the importance of traps in press to handstand... But I do now :)
I am surprised and pleased because something you showed me in this video helped me understand in a new way and catch a great handstand just now. it's pretty exhilarating. thanks
thanks, the free-standing press has eluded me for years. I can straddle hop to full vertical freestanding and slowly lower and I can fully forward fold with my chest to thighs and can press up with back to wall lowering egression straight legs straddle in reps but cannot get an increment of my toe points to lift. I'll give this drill a go...
go for it
is the poster there to keep the wall clean??? that's next lvl smart, woow
That shirt fits you so well. and im not talking physically
haha thanks
Elevation of the traps and much force is required from traps than in normal HS.
1:13 it’s the rounding of the back that makes the shoulder close not so much that the shoulders are closing unlike in planche. 4:50 it’s not about how far you can lean, it’s about how much can you resist leaning forward. It’s a paradox, our shoulders are leaning forward but we are actively trying to press up with traps and actively trying to press backwards with traps elevated and that idea of
Leaning your trap elevated & round back shoulders upto finger tip distance is enough. And the idea if back rounding reinforce that as well.
I've been doing a version of the first exercise in my warmup. I basically start from a pushup position lean slightly as in a planche lean and then drag my feet towards my hands and basically ending in the position you showed. I will try this one though and incorporate the cues you talked about as I'm sure they'll make a difference! One question: palms to the floor is in regards to front fold/pike flexibility. What about pancake flexibility for press to handstand? What degree of flexibility is optimal in the pancake to start working/training towards a press?
pancake and pike flex are both important.
the more flexible you are, the more potential you have for better technique. That being said there are many elements at play here, so start working on the press anyway and continue to improve your flexibility
What besides flexibility shoulder flexion strength determines ones ability to string some multiple press hs for reps i can no problem press standing from the bottom but struggle to lower down the legs and aim for multiple reps?
technique, balance, maybe just practice.
it could be that you're just not used to performing the press in a new way and that's where the difficulty comes in
too hard for me to say without seeing you do it
Yuri the first and second exercise is it best to do it for reps or seconds?.
depends on how it's performed , both can be effective
@@yurimar Is it kinda similar to performing a tuck planche?
@@Asadc1995 no, the intentions between both are very different. Planche is leaning forward, while press is about pushing down while minimizing forward lean
I have a video on planche as well if you want to check that out
@@yurimar Yuri your seem like a guy that knows from years of experiences. And thank your for debunking the might of core strength for press HS. But last question The one were your are chest to wall resisting the forward lean does it also work on as in one of your previous videoes on correcting the mini planche and i saw it on your instagram that you also teach those handstand wall leans as some sort of assistance exercise for Freestanding HSPU.
@@Asadc1995 Yes the wall leans can help with correcting mini planche and cueing for HSPU. It's a super useful exercise
Is it bad to turn your hands sideways when doing this? I just started trying this a couple months ago and in the last couple weeks, I've discovered if I turn my hands sideways, I can get my feet off the ground for a second or two. For whatever reason, I can't get any lift when my fingers are straight forward.
it reduces pressure on the wrist and changes the load on the shoulders slightly.
ultimately when you do a press handstand on the floor your fingers will be forward, so if that's the goal you probably need to train your wrists more
@@yurimar Thanks!