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Watching this profile was super enjoyable. The love for the clan is very apparent and I learned quite a bit watching through. A lot of the mentalities and justifications for your unit choices reminds me of how I went through Granblue, albiet I didn't got through most of the tech myself. I never thought to completely, excluding Penguin, ignore the back row with Aqua Force and it totally makes sense now that we have Accel Circles. And I do understand the frustration of losing out on some really good units that were intended to be boosters haha! Another thing that I really appreciated was your tid bits on the Gyze and Ichi Tom match up because it just adds thst extra bit to show how much you have considered the deck at different angles and not just "I like this combo let's make sure I can do this." I'll be honest, the only videos of yours I watch are your deck profiles and I'm a big fan of how you explain as if you were in a one on one discussion or lecture with whoever is watching and it makes it very educational and the information sticks. Haha if only I had the same sort of audience as you do! :P Anyways, cheers on the deck! I can see all the potential this has and hopefully one day, High Tide could be replaced with something else. IMO, I would considered running a 10k unit just to bolster up your defenses when you ride. I know you mentioned that you don't like Eldermoss, but as a 10k body he can serve a purpose. And plus since you do just tech the Engulf in your G Zone, why not make your opponent lose out on the ability to guard with 1s as well right? Just a small suggestion that branched from my idea of running both Commador Bluebloods in Granblue. :)
Premium is way too complicated for my little brain to comprehend. Thank the Vangods for standard, haha. Great vid, so in-depth. Your videos are always so informative.
Telling us the good word of the Aquas. Im glad that meggido holds such a stronger position now for not just aquas but for the nation as a whole. And thanks for putting the Crit Vs Front Convo in the vid as well because crits still and always will win games.
I'm so glad you understand the front conundrum. Nova suffers from this too. Fronts just aren't as great as people first thought. Just like stands, tanking damage is just too predictable with fronts, and AqF in particular for standard is super reliant on pressure plays? Do I let him hit and restand his Maelstrom or take two damage to the face? Fronts just don't cut it.
will you be making a deck profile for the standard decks? im currently having problems with the grade 3,2,1 lineups, also unsure of what triggers to run... i have problem finding the correct numbers for the deck
Nice in depth deck profile! Would love to see more premium deck profiles from here on out!(Standard deck profiles are boring and all the same) Hopefully GranBlue next :)!
Hey Solemn Vanguard, How about if you run 2 Hydro Lance, Tzanis, which kinda semi-useful? Since it is a restand guy also, without boosted, only if your drive check is a grade 3.
Yet look at the abysmal view count this video gets compared to shorter videos like that ;) Need to balance it out. Long videos like these for the real fans of a clan and shorter videos to survive on RUclips.
I agree with most of the argument for your deck choices. I was think most of the video about running a small ripple engine with the turtle to provide some plusses and early game. But, it seems you wanted to made another deck for that. I look forward to that deck profile. I wanted to ask... I know you finally decided 4 maelstrom for the foil(which is a valid option in my book xd) . But isn't navalgazer a better g3 since it provides better play in case you ride G3 first? You may not always want to use it, but it is another option for the deck.
I'd say it's better to either go hard on the ripple engine or not run it at all. Turtle is extremely risky when you're not going all in on the rush. I do get the Naval argument but then again; why would I want to commit pieces when not striding? Sounds hella risky. I guess when your hand is hella flooded with Tidals, it's fine-ish, but that still requires you to commit 2 RGs to the board to get the double restand off and those plays are stopped by a single defensive.
@@SolemnVanguard Don't know if you're still checking this, but what about Gondikas? It has no Vanguard skill but gives an accel circle and gains 5K on rear guard. If you already have your ultimate stride fodder you could commit one as a rear guard.
Also, as an added note, on Megiddo turn, that extra card called from hand can also swing with a +10k. Megiddo gives ALL called units from it's skill switch, meaning that extra call can be the last attacker. Take note: LAST ATTACKER. If you ever switch with it before going through the other units, they're now stuck on non-accel circles, since that unit called from hand did not gain the switch from Megiddo. BTW Solemn, Was Koralia a bad card to add here, even as a 1 of?
You can do that yes, but usually I will use a Light Signals Penguin Soldier as my extra call, which will die on 4th battle :) But if it's not light signals, you can absolutely do that indeed! I heavily disliked Koralia. Unlike stride fodders, with Koralia you don't get to choose what you discard. You HAVE TO get rid of the g3... Meaning you lose out on a valuable piece/you may not have stride fodder.
The tech card you missed instead of running 2 High Tide Sniper: Tidal Rescue Sea Turtle Soldier. Its skill works on both V and R and has a chance of giving you extra resources at no cost, something AqF struggles with!
Solemn Vanguard For an alternative g2 option, why not go V Basil? He fulfills the same role as High Tide. The stipulation here is that there is 1 additional battle rather than a GB restriction, and considering your counter charge options, you can be even more aggressive. Another thing I want to point out, is Maelstrom skill as a Vanguard nets you a bit more advantage (should you ride g3 1st) since players will more often than not guard attacks 3 and 4. 7 G Guards seem a bit excessive, but okay. And another option here is Colburn, for decks that can keep a ridiculous amount of hand (even through all the Alexandros nonsense).
Basil isn't more aggressive than High Tide though... And I value CB over SB by a margin of 500 in this deck so would definitely not run Basil. 7 G guards may be excessive but what stride option would you even add? Commander is literal ass. Wailing is mehh (just as mehh as engulf so have your pick). Aqua Force has 2 viable strides; Lambros and Alexandros. I have used the variety of G guardians I currently use in various matchups so I do appreciate them being there, whilst I have never ever ever ever ever missed my commanders. Colburn is indeed an option and I'm watching my playtesting. If I'm in a situation where I need it, I make a mental note of it. It doesn't come up that often though.
You should run 2 Heat Elemental Bobo for the OTT Gyze matchup, since any damage after the first doesn’t matter. For any other matchup, just discard it with PGs, Diamantes or for stride cost
Really nice Videos to Watch. Do you make more Videos in Premium Format with Standart Cards? I would help with Nova Grappler if you want. Edit: I play in my Version without the Fronts because i like it more with the Stand.
Nice build! I just tried it, and it works like a charm, though imo, i would run 4 Dia and 2 Thavas. Short story: i often miss rode Thavas, if i run Playset of him.
I agree with new maelstrom as only for accel.. but.. is it better run Navalgeizer?? So, if i go first.. i can restand unit in accel.. just my opinion.. sorry if i wrong..
Blue Storm Dragon Maelstrom at the premium format but it's cool lf you have a Blue Storm deck profile but you can rebuild your Blue Storm deck profile to a new level from premium format if you want to
Nice profile. I see your point about having that "useless" G2 slot. Hide Tide is fine. You could use Trident Shooter to use Accel circles on your battles. Not sure if that's really any different except he could be 19k before 3rd Wave and is NonGB.
No, because Thavas and Diamantes are really good pieces that you always call to RG (thavas more-so than Dia... I mostly see Dia like a benedict that isn't awful when you mis-rode)
Once you're at a point where the 5k shield a g2 has over g3 matters, you were unable to push your opponent into a defensive corner so you lost either way :P I'm also never grade 3 clogged really. I get REALLY happy when I see my Thavas g3s. Good players will snipe them so I don't mind them coming. I also run a Ractome so IF it's an issue, I could always swap one for something else
I'm struggling to find which would serve as a better vanguard: Maelstrom or Navalgazer? Why run Maelstrom over Navalgazer if you're simply going to stride over it?
I have to say ive never been a big fan and assume you to be bad like many other people ive played against (i used to play in IL where alot of good players are like kevin cho and such so im spoiled(i moved to FL the people i play in my area kinda suck no offence)) and being a Aqua Force player since literally day one of BT08 in JP i gained alot of respect for you for stating things that veterans like us know about but people dont think about (like the whole crit thing i used to play rainbow triggers back in the and fucked people cause they no guard maelstrom and i crit them) its nice to know another person that loves the clan as much as i do and ACTUALLY stays with it( everyone i know that "mains" Aqua Force threw it to the side during metas where they werent the greatest but not me :) ) if youd like id love to play against you or at least theory craft
Question: i already have a thavas deck but is it better to buy the trial deck and have it somewhat competitive or buy singles and make it a competitive deck. Only have a spare $20 in my card
Awesome! Im not an AqF player but I have tested some decks in premium, however, I think that if Kagero became popular again this deck isn't good anymore, and it's better to play the GBT013 stuff with the new triggers
Since i use maelstrom premium. should i use shotgun assault for the power plus so i can restand vr maelstrom or should i just get the old tidal assault. Also asking should i use algos as a restand card?
@@SolemnVanguard If you have the time can you tell me or make a video on the what you think the best maelstrom premium deck. I will honestly love it if you would give a video about it and i will share it to all of my friends. Litterally i am desperate
I play benedict in my aqua force deck ~ When they saw my tidal assault didn't show up, they thought there's no unit can pressure them anymore. Voila ~ Benedict to the rescue ~~
Have you considered Algos in that Hight Tide slot? Algos becomes a great ride target, improving aour G2 game by an insane amount, if you get a Tidal as well. It will also help you draw 2 cards from Bubble Edge without having to draw (and commit) 2 Tidals. He will also synergise well when (if) you actually stride Maelstrom and help enable Lambros without having to spend any other restanders. Also, I'd say that in this deck, Navalgazer is noticably better than Maelstrom. He gives you a much better g3 turn in case you ride 1st (by choice, not by going 1st!). He will enable way more combos than Maelstrom (I mean, he's half of an Alexandros in a way). Also, in certain cases he can even enable you to draw 3 from Bubble Edge. Otherwise, great deck profile, love the analysis and the Jellyfish Soldier teck (did you just assume its gender tho?!?!?!? xDD).
- Running 2 Algos is weird. It's unlikely you'll see it early at 2 and beyond that; it forces you to commit a valuable RG slot early. (if not 2...) And any not-awful player will punish you for it. If you're gonna play a rush variant, the ripple deck is far superior imo. - You don't need to use Algos or restander to get Lambros off since you have an accel circle. (Also; if you're not seeing restanders, you have lost) - A g3 turn that is stopped by a single defensive and forces you to sacrifice minimum 1 piece (usually 2). Again; any not-awful player will punish you extremely hard for this. He's not half an Alexandros either. Naval's restood unit only does damage when you hit triggers or if it's on an accel circle AND they don't get any defensives in your first 3 swings. That's a lot of ifs. I'm not sure I see the 3 draws from Bubble Edge. You have to be committing an awful lot of non-hitting pieces to the board in order to do that. You'd be minusing more than you could ever plus off bubble. I'd say that the fact that the Maelstrom is an SVR and thus thicker and thus is like 10% more likely to land on top of the deck when an opponent cuts (try it :P), outweighs the extreme situations in which Navalgazer could possibly be better. (Yes, this is hyperbole)
I got some arguments against Algos and agree on Navalgazer: Against Algos 1. Algos costs Counter Blast that the deck already uses alot 2. Like he said, you will not call (alot) on your G2 turn, because u will lose your rearguards Pro Navalgazer You are right on that G3 Navalgazer turn, he reminds me of Anger-Boil GB2 which people overlooked alot when i played Blue Wave. Maelstrom skill isnt that good. tl;dr: High Tide > Algos Navalgazer > Maelstrom (Swap Engulf into Wailing)
@@SolemnVanguard Actually thr thing I like algos for is that he can help you commit less in some circumstances. In the case of Lambros you need only to commit algos and a Tidal to get the full combo off. In the early game he enables 4 battles with a tidal alone, where tidal can swing at a rear, algos anywhere, restands Tidal and can pass on triggers onto tidal who will swing twice after that. It's a good way to push for early damage against certain decks and it can help clear rgs vs. Decks that rely on them. Don't forget that Algos can always swing at rears and get his abilities off, helping you get rid of intercepters (shield!) without risking a defensive trigger for a very small investment. And again, getting bubble edge off before they get a chance to retire it is great, since you'd only be riding algos and committing only tidal to get it off once (or another any unit to proc it twice). If I've learnt anything from srandard and AqF is how valuable restanding that procs on attacking rears is and algos can incorporate that very well into premium. Also, in case you don't recognise me, I'm OceanDragonLord on reddit and discord and I'd be happy to continue this debate there if you'd like ;)
I tested out an 8 G3 setup and it's still consistent. 4 Navalgazer/4GBT13 Thavas. it works nicely but I want to see yours in action. It looks good. As for your High Tide issue, you can try out Wavehunt Sailor or Nikitas.
True. I tested out your deck in CFA and it's pretty solid as it is. The number of G3s make it more susceptible to rush decks but once it strides, it catches up fast. Perhaps Shotgun Assault can replace him just in case you 1st turn Maelstrom but you'll lose the extra +2k power. I'm still running Adelaide in case I'm forced to ride Thavas and so far, it's alright.
These kinds of decks made me wish there was a reprint for triggers with abilities but remain at a 10k power boost and their old abilities are intact, but are only usable in Premium format to keep Standard simple.
Sadly, these would only theoretically apply to guys like Psychic Bird, Red Lightning, and all of the triggers currently being released in Standard who used to have skills.
Play 4 Naval then. NEVER EVER EVER run 1-off ride targets. you need to ride a target which you will have multiple copies of in order to ultimate stride
ironically i like drachma the most now just because its by far the worse, and therefore the best because it has less BS exploits meaning you need to drop $50 on a single highly desired card to make a deck function
Why not make Megiddo focus deck, just use standard deck and use disaster Maelstrom to get the same Maelstrom from deck and next turn u can use Megiddo if u have 3 face up g unit
You could always run more but you could only g guard 4 times per games at most unless u have ways to flip the g guard face down and recycle your heal triggers
That part on the g3 ratio made no sense at all honestly lol At this point the best choice would be 4 thavas 4 diamantes 2 non-navalgazer trial deck guy
It isn't. You basically said the vg is vanilla other than the accel, in any case. And that you don't run 4x diamantes because "you don't wanna use him as stride cost for megiddo". But if you run 4, one on vg and one for stride, you have still 2 not used for that purpose. ...which means you, even with a diamantes as a vg and one for ultimate stride, have the same number of "rear guard diamantes" you'd have running two with a non-diamantes vanguard. So running 2 because you don"t wanna waste it on VG doesn't make any sense because WORST CASE SCENARIO you still have two. Otherwise they're 3 or 4. Also, since the vanguard is a "vanilla with accel" anyway, at that point fuck Maelstrom and let's only play rg based g3s, so in this case the non-navalgazer guy from.the trial case is still better than a also-vanilla-on-RG Maelstrom not even used for its name support.
I mean, you don't still wanna run 4 diamantes? Ok, but still swapping maelstrom with the trial deck guy would improve since your always vanilla accel makers become rear-guard useful accel makers.
But I NEVER wanna have dia on VG that's the whole damn point. the chance that you see your other dia when you have 1 on VG and 1 on rg is abysmally low. Running 2 boys from the TD is awful because you never want to have that on VG either. Your VG essentially needs to be something that's not a piece. I could understand 4 Naval 4 thavas 2 dia. Again; naval being VG-only and being ran at 4 maximizes the chance you'll be able to ultimate stride when necessary. I could also understand 4 non-naval TD 4 thavas 2 dia. But at NO point should you be running a 2-off that you intend to ride. The 2-off needs to be a valuable piece that you view as a grade 2. To create an analogy; in basskirk-GB premium, you never wanna ride skull dragon. Sure, you'll never use basskirk's skill so skull dragon and basskirk on V fulfill the exact same role, but the fact that you ride skull dragon essentially means you have 1 skull on V and you need to keep 1 in hand at ALL times just in case you want to ulti stride, this makes it incredibly hard to have access to skull dragons, since you're basically tying 2 up already. The same works for diamantes. You don't want to tie him up in hand for ulti stride because he's a valuable piece.
Solemn Vanguard This morning the price of the promo was 85p on the website I order my cards from. I checked this afternoon again and it went to £5.85!!!😬😅
Just go for an aggro deck based on Navalgazer. You will just need both RRR and It couldn't be so budget but hey, you need them for the deck to actually work. Trigger lineup should be at least 6 Fronts and 4 draws (PG), the two slots are custom, putting some criticals to surprise your opponent, 2 fronts to optimize your frontrow or even 2 draws to get more draw which is always good but well, you can run the trigger lineup that you want. Grade 1: 4 Penguin and 4 Theo. These two are way too good for Navalgazer, the penguin enable your restanders on non-accel RG and CC for free basically allowing you to stay on 2 or 3 damage to avoid risks (You can manage the timing between Navalgazer and Penguin to resolve first the one you are most interested. Example: Navalgazer attacks on fourth attack with penguin on rg, you have no CB but both abilities trigger and you get to choose what ability resolves first, you chose penguin and then you use navalgazer. Or at least I perceive this, if I'm wrong, anyone please correct me) The next 4 slots depends, you prefer draw? 4 viviane. You prefer power? 2 Viviane and 2 Influent. The 9K is not useful at all and the trial deck siren is just too expensive to use. 12 G1 works for me because I really like have G3 on RG to hit as hard as possible but you can try to run 13 G1 for example. Grade 2: 4 Algos and 4 Tidal to begin. These are your enablers to increase the attacks to trigger the abilities so they are pretty core, nothing more to say. We follow up with 4 Shotgun Assault, this card is just very good at being a beatstick, soulblast to hit that sweet 15ks by himself is impressive. Grade 3: 4 Navalgazer, 3 Diamantes and 2 Riptide Dragon. Navalgazer is pretty obvious, Diamantes is nuts on accel RG with Navalgazer on VG allowing to attack 2 times by himself and then a third time thanks to navalgazer, It's very cool. Riptide is just a 32ks RG by itself, perfect to knock down your opponent. Pros: With a good starting hand, you can rolfstomp very easily. VERY easily. The deck is actually very interactive and can work on many ways. Very budget and very competitive for not using a VR. Cons: A damage trigger can throw off your turn by the window, you can mitigate this by timing your attacks well but it's just a general problem for Nova and Aqua. At the end of the day this deck is pure aggro, you need to kill off your opponent before you got no CB, penguin mitigate this weakness but you're not going to draw penguin every game so be careful. This deck needs GOOD resource management, knowing when to guard and when not to is essential, even more when they are attacking your RG to minimize your board and your CB, so knowing when to do things is vital to win. (You can say this about all the clans, but AqF has only 1 way to draw outside of triggers so It's even more important.) Take your time learning this deck throughly!
firstly you can always use lambros and alexandros so you are not very restricted and secondly artiom can change the heart which pretty much eliminates the problem
I am loving these decklist vids, but could u pls do me a favour and put the decklist into the description? Or maybe comment it and pin it. Please do that it helps alot. Thanks.
@@SolemnVanguard Both the English Fighter's rules and the English Imaginary Gift FAQ on the Cardfight Vanguard website state that you will be penalized at Level 2 (Regional) and higher tournaments if you do not have enough Imaginary Gifts.
You are correct that you will be penalised for not having the appropriate number of gifts. However, the specific ruling also states the penalty will only apply when he is required to acquire a gift and cannot do so due to lack of available materials. As a judge, the penalty would be to issue a warning for failure to prepare appropriate tournament materials, and then I would issue him a proxy to use for the rest of the tournament. It is a recommendation that fighters have enough gift markers appropriate to their number of Grade 3 units, but is not a strict requirement. Markers are not part of the deck, any judge giving a game loss for that has no right to be a judge.
The love you have for this clan is amazing
Appreciated! :)
@@SolemnVanguard You are welcomed 😊
I don't think I have enjoyed a deck profile video this much in my life. Please play this at nationals.
That's awesome to hear! I'm not sure if I'll be taking this specifically. I'm on the fence still :P So many fun decks
@@SolemnVanguard you mean you have something else that is also at least as interesting :O
I'd say so!
Watching this profile was super enjoyable. The love for the clan is very apparent and I learned quite a bit watching through.
A lot of the mentalities and justifications for your unit choices reminds me of how I went through Granblue, albiet I didn't got through most of the tech myself.
I never thought to completely, excluding Penguin, ignore the back row with Aqua Force and it totally makes sense now that we have Accel Circles. And I do understand the frustration of losing out on some really good units that were intended to be boosters haha!
Another thing that I really appreciated was your tid bits on the Gyze and Ichi Tom match up because it just adds thst extra bit to show how much you have considered the deck at different angles and not just "I like this combo let's make sure I can do this."
I'll be honest, the only videos of yours I watch are your deck profiles and I'm a big fan of how you explain as if you were in a one on one discussion or lecture with whoever is watching and it makes it very educational and the information sticks.
Haha if only I had the same sort of audience as you do! :P
Anyways, cheers on the deck! I can see all the potential this has and hopefully one day, High Tide could be replaced with something else.
IMO, I would considered running a 10k unit just to bolster up your defenses when you ride. I know you mentioned that you don't like Eldermoss, but as a 10k body he can serve a purpose.
And plus since you do just tech the Engulf in your G Zone, why not make your opponent lose out on the ability to guard with 1s as well right? Just a small suggestion that branched from my idea of running both Commador Bluebloods in Granblue. :)
Premium is way too complicated for my little brain to comprehend. Thank the Vangods for standard, haha. Great vid, so in-depth. Your videos are always so informative.
Premium is not complicated at all
Telling us the good word of the Aquas. Im glad that meggido holds such a stronger position now for not just aquas but for the nation as a whole. And thanks for putting the Crit Vs Front Convo in the vid as well because crits still and always will win games.
Thank you! :)
I'm so glad you understand the front conundrum. Nova suffers from this too. Fronts just aren't as great as people first thought. Just like stands, tanking damage is just too predictable with fronts, and AqF in particular for standard is super reliant on pressure plays? Do I let him hit and restand his Maelstrom or take two damage to the face? Fronts just don't cut it.
Love this kind of deck profile. Really clear and passionate
appreciated!
will you be making a deck profile for the standard decks? im currently having problems with the grade 3,2,1 lineups, also unsure of what triggers to run... i have problem finding the correct numbers for the deck
I love your premium videos and premium is by far my fav format. Sadly it's dead in my store. Twice as many people for standard.
Thank you!
Revive it at your store ;)
I will definitely try.
Standard videos are super boring. It's all the exact same thing.
Agreed
Nice in depth deck profile! Would love to see more premium deck profiles from here on out!(Standard deck profiles are boring and all the same) Hopefully GranBlue next :)!
Thank you! :D
Hey. Have you tried using Despina since you are using Maelstrom as Vanguard?
I hope you will do a gameplay of this deck soon and upload it :D
Hey Solemn Vanguard, How about if you run 2 Hydro Lance, Tzanis, which kinda semi-useful? Since it is a restand guy also, without boosted, only if your drive check is a grade 3.
More videos like this should be made. It explains pros, cons, and strategy and not say “this deck is degenerate” or “this card is broken.”
Yet look at the abysmal view count this video gets compared to shorter videos like that ;) Need to balance it out. Long videos like these for the real fans of a clan and shorter videos to survive on RUclips.
The Star Wars Penguin......They say the Force is strong with this one! That joke is probably old but it is still funny.
I agree with most of the argument for your deck choices. I was think most of the video about running a small ripple engine with the turtle to provide some plusses and early game. But, it seems you wanted to made another deck for that. I look forward to that deck profile.
I wanted to ask... I know you finally decided 4 maelstrom for the foil(which is a valid option in my book xd) . But isn't navalgazer a better g3 since it provides better play in case you ride G3 first? You may not always want to use it, but it is another option for the deck.
I'd say it's better to either go hard on the ripple engine or not run it at all. Turtle is extremely risky when you're not going all in on the rush.
I do get the Naval argument but then again; why would I want to commit pieces when not striding? Sounds hella risky.
I guess when your hand is hella flooded with Tidals, it's fine-ish, but that still requires you to commit 2 RGs to the board to get the double restand off and those plays are stopped by a single defensive.
@@SolemnVanguard Don't know if you're still checking this, but what about Gondikas? It has no Vanguard skill but gives an accel circle and gains 5K on rear guard. If you already have your ultimate stride fodder you could commit one as a rear guard.
Dude what do you think will happen to chrono jet? Do u think he’ll get some support?
Also, as an added note, on Megiddo turn, that extra card called from hand can also swing with a +10k. Megiddo gives ALL called units from it's skill switch, meaning that extra call can be the last attacker. Take note: LAST ATTACKER. If you ever switch with it before going through the other units, they're now stuck on non-accel circles, since that unit called from hand did not gain the switch from Megiddo.
BTW Solemn, Was Koralia a bad card to add here, even as a 1 of?
You can do that yes, but usually I will use a Light Signals Penguin Soldier as my extra call, which will die on 4th battle :) But if it's not light signals, you can absolutely do that indeed!
I heavily disliked Koralia. Unlike stride fodders, with Koralia you don't get to choose what you discard. You HAVE TO get rid of the g3... Meaning you lose out on a valuable piece/you may not have stride fodder.
The tech card you missed instead of running 2 High Tide Sniper: Tidal Rescue Sea Turtle Soldier. Its skill works on both V and R and has a chance of giving you extra resources at no cost, something AqF struggles with!
Really nice as always Solemn. Now only the Navalgazer is remaining.
Solemn Vanguard
For an alternative g2 option, why not go V Basil? He fulfills the same role as High Tide. The stipulation here is that there is 1 additional battle rather than a GB restriction, and considering your counter charge options, you can be even more aggressive.
Another thing I want to point out, is Maelstrom skill as a Vanguard nets you a bit more advantage (should you ride g3 1st) since players will more often than not guard attacks 3 and 4.
7 G Guards seem a bit excessive, but okay. And another option here is Colburn, for decks that can keep a ridiculous amount of hand (even through all the Alexandros nonsense).
Basil isn't more aggressive than High Tide though... And I value CB over SB by a margin of 500 in this deck so would definitely not run Basil.
7 G guards may be excessive but what stride option would you even add? Commander is literal ass. Wailing is mehh (just as mehh as engulf so have your pick).
Aqua Force has 2 viable strides; Lambros and Alexandros. I have used the variety of G guardians I currently use in various matchups so I do appreciate them being there, whilst I have never ever ever ever ever missed my commanders.
Colburn is indeed an option and I'm watching my playtesting. If I'm in a situation where I need it, I make a mental note of it. It doesn't come up that often though.
You should run 2 Heat Elemental Bobo for the OTT Gyze matchup, since any damage after the first doesn’t matter. For any other matchup, just discard it with PGs, Diamantes or for stride cost
That is very smart
I think you will be fine against Gyze with aqua. You don't even need Valeos because they lose trigger power ;)
Please alway do deck profile it’s really awesome 👏 are you gonna do one for granblue
I will :) thank you!
Solemn Vanguard this is one your Top 3 video
Really nice Videos to Watch. Do you make more Videos in Premium Format with Standart Cards? I would help with Nova Grappler if you want.
Edit: I play in my Version without the Fronts because i like it more with the Stand.
great aqf video. really appreciated
how do you win on 1 1st or 2nd stride and how do u flip card in your stride deck fast for the power up? and normally what is the first stride?
daaaamn!! funny thing to try , thanks for sharing the deck
Nice build! I just tried it, and it works like a charm, though imo, i would run 4 Dia and 2 Thavas. Short story: i often miss rode Thavas, if i run Playset of him.
I agree with new maelstrom as only for accel.. but.. is it better run Navalgeizer?? So, if i go first.. i can restand unit in accel.. just my opinion.. sorry if i wrong..
you could definitely run him instead :)
Blue Storm Dragon Maelstrom at the premium format but it's cool lf you have a Blue Storm deck profile but you can rebuild your Blue Storm deck profile to a new level from premium format if you want to
Good job man! Enjoyed the deck profile
Appreciated!
Nice profile. I see your point about having that "useless" G2 slot.
Hide Tide is fine. You could use Trident Shooter to use Accel circles on your battles. Not sure if that's really any different except he could be 19k before 3rd Wave and is NonGB.
I'd prefer to not have to fix awkward stuff the next turn so trident is a no for me. :)
@@SolemnVanguard fair enough. Do you feel with so many G3s it can clog your hand?
No, because Thavas and Diamantes are really good pieces that you always call to RG (thavas more-so than Dia... I mostly see Dia like a benedict that isn't awful when you mis-rode)
@@SolemnVanguard I was thinking in terms of drive checking them. They're dead cards to guard with unless they're used for PG cost ya know.
Once you're at a point where the 5k shield a g2 has over g3 matters, you were unable to push your opponent into a defensive corner so you lost either way :P
I'm also never grade 3 clogged really. I get REALLY happy when I see my Thavas g3s. Good players will snipe them so I don't mind them coming.
I also run a Ractome so IF it's an issue, I could always swap one for something else
Even though I don't play aqua force, it looks awesome!
Is jay gonna make a gear chronicles premium deck profile in this channel
Perhaps when GC comes out in V :) Right now, ZTB remains mostly the same
Oh ok
Would you say this deck is better than the Ripple deck you have made as well?
I think it's more consistent. Ripples is quite high-roll.
Will you do a new tier list update since new clans have been released and have had tournament play?
Can you make a combo video? Your thavas combo helped me so thats why i want to see it :,)
I have so many doubt about how to build a tachikaze premium if you could make a video of how to do it, it could help me too. Great video
I'm struggling to find which would serve as a better vanguard: Maelstrom or Navalgazer? Why run Maelstrom over Navalgazer if you're simply going to stride over it?
You can run Navalgazer if you want :)
I have to say ive never been a big fan and assume you to be bad like many other people ive played against (i used to play in IL where alot of good players are like kevin cho and such so im spoiled(i moved to FL the people i play in my area kinda suck no offence)) and being a Aqua Force player since literally day one of BT08 in JP i gained alot of respect for you for stating things that veterans like us know about but people dont think about (like the whole crit thing i used to play rainbow triggers back in the and fucked people cause they no guard maelstrom and i crit them) its nice to know another person that loves the clan as much as i do and ACTUALLY stays with it( everyone i know that "mains" Aqua Force threw it to the side during metas where they werent the greatest but not me :) ) if youd like id love to play against you or at least theory craft
Question: i already have a thavas deck but is it better to buy the trial deck and have it somewhat competitive or buy singles and make it a competitive deck. Only have a spare $20 in my card
Buy the V trial deck for aqua force and add navalgazers into your thavas deck for accel circles :)
Aight thanks
Awesome! Im not an AqF player but I have tested some decks in premium, however, I think that if Kagero became popular again this deck isn't good anymore, and it's better to play the GBT013 stuff with the new triggers
Kagero will never be good in premium, they never got any broken g support that can really break the game.
Since i use maelstrom premium. should i use shotgun assault for the power plus so i can restand vr maelstrom or should i just get the old tidal assault. Also asking should i use algos as a restand card?
Old tidal assault. You always want to stride. No point in being on maelstrom without a stride over him.
Algos is pretty mehh imo.
@@SolemnVanguard If you have the time can you tell me or make a video on the what you think the best maelstrom premium deck. I will honestly love it if you would give a video about it and i will share it to all of my friends. Litterally i am desperate
@@SolemnVanguard also should I have algos or tidal assault or both? for maelstrom premium
Best deck profile ever!!!! (Can you do premium kagero as well?)
Solemn hates red clans
Aqua Force not being Force forces you to fill more field.
I feel Fronts work better on Standard but in the idea behind this build not so much.
Loved this many thanks i can see u feel the wind :) ⚓⚓⛵🐧🐧
“Stand up, Vanguard!”
Wouldn't it be better if you run wailing thavas instead of engulf
for the free retire on top of the guard restriction?
Depends on if the meta runs draw PGs or grade 1 PGs.
I play benedict in my aqua force deck ~ When they saw my tidal assault didn't show up, they thought there's no unit can pressure them anymore. Voila ~ Benedict to the rescue ~~
How's the Ripples Profile coming along?
Man, this deck is awesome
Appreciated!
Have you considered Algos in that Hight Tide slot? Algos becomes a great ride target, improving aour G2 game by an insane amount, if you get a Tidal as well. It will also help you draw 2 cards from Bubble Edge without having to draw (and commit) 2 Tidals. He will also synergise well when (if) you actually stride Maelstrom and help enable Lambros without having to spend any other restanders.
Also, I'd say that in this deck, Navalgazer is noticably better than Maelstrom. He gives you a much better g3 turn in case you ride 1st (by choice, not by going 1st!). He will enable way more combos than Maelstrom (I mean, he's half of an Alexandros in a way). Also, in certain cases he can even enable you to draw 3 from Bubble Edge.
Otherwise, great deck profile, love the analysis and the Jellyfish Soldier teck (did you just assume its gender tho?!?!?!? xDD).
- Running 2 Algos is weird. It's unlikely you'll see it early at 2 and beyond that; it forces you to commit a valuable RG slot early. (if not 2...) And any not-awful player will punish you for it. If you're gonna play a rush variant, the ripple deck is far superior imo.
- You don't need to use Algos or restander to get Lambros off since you have an accel circle. (Also; if you're not seeing restanders, you have lost)
- A g3 turn that is stopped by a single defensive and forces you to sacrifice minimum 1 piece (usually 2). Again; any not-awful player will punish you extremely hard for this. He's not half an Alexandros either. Naval's restood unit only does damage when you hit triggers or if it's on an accel circle AND they don't get any defensives in your first 3 swings. That's a lot of ifs. I'm not sure I see the 3 draws from Bubble Edge. You have to be committing an awful lot of non-hitting pieces to the board in order to do that. You'd be minusing more than you could ever plus off bubble.
I'd say that the fact that the Maelstrom is an SVR and thus thicker and thus is like 10% more likely to land on top of the deck when an opponent cuts (try it :P), outweighs the extreme situations in which Navalgazer could possibly be better. (Yes, this is hyperbole)
I got some arguments against Algos and agree on Navalgazer:
Against Algos
1. Algos costs Counter Blast that the deck already uses alot
2. Like he said, you will not call (alot) on your G2 turn, because u will lose your rearguards
Pro Navalgazer
You are right on that G3 Navalgazer turn, he reminds me of Anger-Boil GB2 which people overlooked alot when i played Blue Wave. Maelstrom skill isnt that good.
tl;dr:
High Tide > Algos
Navalgazer > Maelstrom (Swap Engulf into Wailing)
F A T B L I N G > Situational over-extending g3 ride :P
This is my problem with Algos, I pulled the SP in my trial deck and I want to run the "F A T B L I N G", but its so bad for premium.
@@SolemnVanguard Actually thr thing I like algos for is that he can help you commit less in some circumstances. In the case of Lambros you need only to commit algos and a Tidal to get the full combo off. In the early game he enables 4 battles with a tidal alone, where tidal can swing at a rear, algos anywhere, restands Tidal and can pass on triggers onto tidal who will swing twice after that. It's a good way to push for early damage against certain decks and it can help clear rgs vs. Decks that rely on them. Don't forget that Algos can always swing at rears and get his abilities off, helping you get rid of intercepters (shield!) without risking a defensive trigger for a very small investment.
And again, getting bubble edge off before they get a chance to retire it is great, since you'd only be riding algos and committing only tidal to get it off once (or another any unit to proc it twice).
If I've learnt anything from srandard and AqF is how valuable restanding that procs on attacking rears is and algos can incorporate that very well into premium. Also, in case you don't recognise me, I'm OceanDragonLord on reddit and discord and I'd be happy to continue this debate there if you'd like ;)
I tested out an 8 G3 setup and it's still consistent. 4 Navalgazer/4GBT13 Thavas. it works nicely but I want to see yours in action. It looks good.
As for your High Tide issue, you can try out Wavehunt Sailor or Nikitas.
I'd say Nikitas and Wavehunt are both strictly worse than high tide sadly
True. I tested out your deck in CFA and it's pretty solid as it is. The number of G3s make it more susceptible to rush decks but once it strides, it catches up fast. Perhaps Shotgun Assault can replace him just in case you 1st turn Maelstrom but you'll lose the extra +2k power. I'm still running Adelaide in case I'm forced to ride Thavas and so far, it's alright.
Smh Solemn, such a tease. Give the people what they want, a standard Aqua profile. ; )
*goes to twitter*
*copies the exact same deck everyone else is running yet still doesn't top cuz aqua is so damn ass*
DONEEE
These kinds of decks made me wish there was a reprint for triggers with abilities but remain at a 10k power boost and their old abilities are intact, but are only usable in Premium format to keep Standard simple.
Yes, reprint my gattling claw with new values
Sadly, these would only theoretically apply to guys like Psychic Bird, Red Lightning, and all of the triggers currently being released in Standard who used to have skills.
Aqua Force God!!!👍🏾
can you unlock your vanguard or rear guards using Galfilia?
Yes you can
New Algos for the OTT Gyze matchup, and other slow deck matchups
Any chance of a pure thavas deck with melania, adelaide and the others?
I believe it's not worth it :/ Adelaide being stuck on 11k makes her effectively worthless. You wouldn't have access to an accel circle so :/
Will you do a video on a more Thavas heavy deck build in the future?
I'd say this is about as Thavas heavy as it gets. I believe the accel circle is too valuable to put back Melania, though I do miss Shipra a lot...
@@SolemnVanguard Thank you and thanks for your quick response. Your videos are what got me into Vanguard then into aqua force.
I have another question. If I can only get one Mealstrom. Is there any subs(and what are they) for the lack of the other Mealstrom's the other 2 or 3?
Play 4 Naval then. NEVER EVER EVER run 1-off ride targets. you need to ride a target which you will have multiple copies of in order to ultimate stride
@@SolemnVanguard Thank you!
i remember when you said meggido wasn't a staple, i miss those days
Yeah, it really wasn't necessary back in G but now it's a really powerful alternate win con. I will say 80% of my wins are still on Alexandros though.
ironically i like drachma the most now just because its by far the worse, and therefore the best because it has less BS exploits meaning you need to drop $50 on a single highly desired card to make a deck function
Why not make Megiddo focus deck, just use standard deck and use disaster Maelstrom to get the same Maelstrom from deck and next turn u can use Megiddo if u have 3 face up g unit
Because you won't do any damage to your opponent on first stride, meaning you likely don't hit the kill on Megiddo
Building
Love aqua force
Still waiting for the Navalgazer Deck for standard
My friend upgraded his AF ripple deck and he did not add a card that give an accel gift
I thought Thavas only gives backrow attack to Wave units?
Yes? You never ride him so you don't use his on-stride. If you ride him for the kagero matchup, you use him to give resist to whatever you want.
Nice one :)
One problem with your deck, it's not max rarity, Seabreeze comes in a higher rareity, founter rare
No it doesn't? My sebreeze is the full art congrats one.
can i use the old tidal assault for the reboot aquaforce?
In Premium; yes.
In Standard; no.
Someone explain the g guardian rule because my friend says you can only run three cause of its ability
You could always run more but you could only g guard 4 times per games at most unless u have ways to flip the g guard face down and recycle your heal triggers
You can run as much as you want you can even fill your G zone with G Guards and not run strides, but no one actually does that unless they're trolling
OH my god
That part on the g3 ratio made no sense at all honestly lol At this point the best choice would be 4 thavas 4 diamantes 2 non-navalgazer trial deck guy
I hope this is bait
It isn't. You basically said the vg is vanilla other than the accel, in any case. And that you don't run 4x diamantes because "you don't wanna use him as stride cost for megiddo". But if you run 4, one on vg and one for stride, you have still 2 not used for that purpose.
...which means you, even with a diamantes as a vg and one for ultimate stride, have the same number of "rear guard diamantes" you'd have running two with a non-diamantes vanguard. So running 2 because you don"t wanna waste it on VG doesn't make any sense because WORST CASE SCENARIO you still have two. Otherwise they're 3 or 4. Also, since the vanguard is a "vanilla with accel" anyway, at that point fuck Maelstrom and let's only play rg based g3s, so in this case the non-navalgazer guy from.the trial case is still better than a also-vanilla-on-RG Maelstrom not even used for its name support.
I mean, you don't still wanna run 4 diamantes? Ok, but still swapping maelstrom with the trial deck guy would improve since your always vanilla accel makers become rear-guard useful accel makers.
But I NEVER wanna have dia on VG that's the whole damn point. the chance that you see your other dia when you have 1 on VG and 1 on rg is abysmally low.
Running 2 boys from the TD is awful because you never want to have that on VG either. Your VG essentially needs to be something that's not a piece.
I could understand 4 Naval 4 thavas 2 dia. Again; naval being VG-only and being ran at 4 maximizes the chance you'll be able to ultimate stride when necessary.
I could also understand 4 non-naval TD 4 thavas 2 dia.
But at NO point should you be running a 2-off that you intend to ride. The 2-off needs to be a valuable piece that you view as a grade 2.
To create an analogy; in basskirk-GB premium, you never wanna ride skull dragon. Sure, you'll never use basskirk's skill so skull dragon and basskirk on V fulfill the exact same role, but the fact that you ride skull dragon essentially means you have 1 skull on V and you need to keep 1 in hand at ALL times just in case you want to ulti stride, this makes it incredibly hard to have access to skull dragons, since you're basically tying 2 up already.
The same works for diamantes. You don't want to tie him up in hand for ulti stride because he's a valuable piece.
I really like tear knight theo over influent dagger tho
In Premium? Highly disagree. You need to fill circles. Theo takes up a back row spot.
You also don't really get to hit often. He's often vanilla.
10:46 is that the light signals penguin soldier promo?
Yes :)
Solemn Vanguard
This morning the price of the promo was 85p on the website I order my cards from. I checked this afternoon again and it went to £5.85!!!😬😅
Pls do standard aqua force budget profile because I don't know where I'm going with my build and I need some pointers
Just go for an aggro deck based on Navalgazer. You will just need both RRR and It couldn't be so budget but hey, you need them for the deck to actually work.
Trigger lineup should be at least 6 Fronts and 4 draws (PG), the two slots are custom, putting some criticals to surprise your opponent, 2 fronts to optimize your frontrow or even 2 draws to get more draw which is always good but well, you can run the trigger lineup that you want.
Grade 1: 4 Penguin and 4 Theo. These two are way too good for Navalgazer, the penguin enable your restanders on non-accel RG and CC for free basically allowing you to stay on 2 or 3 damage to avoid risks (You can manage the timing between Navalgazer and Penguin to resolve first the one you are most interested. Example: Navalgazer attacks on fourth attack with penguin on rg, you have no CB but both abilities trigger and you get to choose what ability resolves first, you chose penguin and then you use navalgazer. Or at least I perceive this, if I'm wrong, anyone please correct me) The next 4 slots depends, you prefer draw? 4 viviane. You prefer power? 2 Viviane and 2 Influent. The 9K is not useful at all and the trial deck siren is just too expensive to use. 12 G1 works for me because I really like have G3 on RG to hit as hard as possible but you can try to run 13 G1 for example.
Grade 2: 4 Algos and 4 Tidal to begin. These are your enablers to increase the attacks to trigger the abilities so they are pretty core, nothing more to say. We follow up with 4 Shotgun Assault, this card is just very good at being a beatstick, soulblast to hit that sweet 15ks by himself is impressive.
Grade 3: 4 Navalgazer, 3 Diamantes and 2 Riptide Dragon. Navalgazer is pretty obvious, Diamantes is nuts on accel RG with Navalgazer on VG allowing to attack 2 times by himself and then a third time thanks to navalgazer, It's very cool. Riptide is just a 32ks RG by itself, perfect to knock down your opponent.
Pros: With a good starting hand, you can rolfstomp very easily. VERY easily. The deck is actually very interactive and can work on many ways. Very budget and very competitive for not using a VR.
Cons: A damage trigger can throw off your turn by the window, you can mitigate this by timing your attacks well but it's just a general problem for Nova and Aqua. At the end of the day this deck is pure aggro, you need to kill off your opponent before you got no CB, penguin mitigate this weakness but you're not going to draw penguin every game so be careful. This deck needs GOOD resource management, knowing when to guard and when not to is essential, even more when they are attacking your RG to minimize your board and your CB, so knowing when to do things is vital to win. (You can say this about all the clans, but AqF has only 1 way to draw outside of triggers so It's even more important.)
Take your time learning this deck throughly!
El Rincon de Morphie
Thank you so much for this advice and I will follow it through!
Why not algos
can you do a valeos premium deck too for us the blue wave fans?
they're crippled without blue wave name
firstly you can always use lambros and alexandros so you are not very restricted and secondly artiom can change the heart which pretty much eliminates the problem
"smack the shit out of them" XD
Can thus deck also run with algos
I don't find algos very good in premium
I am loving these decklist vids, but could u pls do me a favour and put the decklist into the description? Or maybe comment it and pin it. Please do that it helps alot. Thanks.
Can u make a navel gazer dragon Matt?
Where is moeggeido
Bubble Edge should get a playmat 👍👍👍😂
Do a combo video
If u wan to restand new tidal becomes a 4k 4k atker
Yes unless his first attack is on first battle
You.hear me I put a spell you
Premium granblue please.
soon ;)
Second sorry khiari
For Dayzz shut up
Stacia?
Really no point. We don't need her to build battles and if we need RGs gone, we can attack them pre-alexandros
True. See this is why I love ur deck profiles so much.
Fucking i am never first
Navalgazer is as good as maelstrom
Wait
pls do premium ripples
soon! :)
@@SolemnVanguard yesh!!!
Tournament regulations require you to use 6 Accel markers if you have 4 Maelstroms and 2 Diamantes with gift.
That is 100% false and it's ridiculous some people are up-voting this nonsense.
@@SolemnVanguard Both the English Fighter's rules and the English Imaginary Gift FAQ on the Cardfight Vanguard website state that you will be penalized at Level 2 (Regional) and higher tournaments if you do not have enough Imaginary Gifts.
When riding and coming to the conclusion that you don't have the markers, perhaps.
You are correct that you will be penalised for not having the appropriate number of gifts. However, the specific ruling also states the penalty will only apply when he is required to acquire a gift and cannot do so due to lack of available materials. As a judge, the penalty would be to issue a warning for failure to prepare appropriate tournament materials, and then I would issue him a proxy to use for the rest of the tournament. It is a recommendation that fighters have enough gift markers appropriate to their number of Grade 3 units, but is not a strict requirement. Markers are not part of the deck, any judge giving a game loss for that has no right to be a judge.
First?
Never mind then
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