they shaved 20kg by removing the trellis frame, or at least that is what I heard, I always loved the trellis frame of a Ducati but if I had to choose between 20kg less and the trellis frame, lightweight always wins for me. and to be honest the design is still killer!
I have riden F900R, CBR650R, Duke890, MT09SP and I have Monster+ at home. Its so sexy with absolutely best agility and handling (duke is the only contender really). Also super software (wheele control, cornering abs, traction control…). Its so much fun to ride, I love it. Even the price is fine considering that I needed to add just heated grips (Duke in same configuration was even more expensive).
I'm glad Ducati got rid of that trellis frame and large tank the bike now came out of the dinosaur age .The new bike is awesome and with the race exhaust option sounds amazing. Totally love the new Monster.
Another great review of a good looking motorbike although i’m not a fan of the sound of the engine - it sounds like a sewing machine & a bit rattly. You always put the information across in an unbiased way so keep up the good work & ride safely. Cheers, Mark.
Awesome bike. Love my 937 and it's my go to bike for any rides. Even taken it around the europe which pushed me far more than the ducati. A naked bike was not maybe the right choice but as I say I was stretched far more than the monster....brilliant bike
Nice review. Hoping to see you do the same with next year's SP model. I currently own a 959 Panigale but tired of wrist and back pain - the Monster SP looks like a good trade candidate. That or the Streetfighter V2 but the SP is much better spec'd.
I must be one of the few that like the look of this bike. Probably too small for me but a strong contender for my wife currently riding a 2015 Street Triple 675.
This bike actually looks far better in the flesh as I found out when I was in the dealership the other day. However, I reckon it's overpriced and I wouldn't swap it for my Street Triple which also doesn't sound like a bag of spanners.
I agree with you.but same day I saw this on the flesh I saw the mt09 so which I think it even look better in the flesh than this bike. Likewise I don't think it has enough for me to change. I feel previous generation made a stronger case for switching when we look at the style of the other bikes but now it doesn't seem to be enough.
@@c.g.c2067 I see the monster as a bike with the Ducati tax without the Ducati wow factor. That's why I am not a fan. I can proudly keep an mt09 or triple rs because of that.
When you buy a Ducati you definitely pay a little extra since it’s a top brand as Triumph for instance. The new Monster is a beautiful all rounder bike also targeting new riders which can benefit from top notch electronic package (cornering ABS), superb handling and braking. The power is more than adequate. Japanese bikes are allways cheaper due to numbers of sales worldwide and a lot of China based production. Triumph prices are high despite production plants and assembly are in India together with Ktm. Ducati are mainly made in Italy as Ferrari, Maserati, Lamborghini, Moto Guzzi and Aprilia… or Mv Agusta. If you look at Triumph’s Bonneville range (i ride a Bonneville) they are silly expensive for what you get.
The monster plus comes with upgraded exhaust system and the passenger seat cover is standard on that model but it’s an option on the model you were testing also the price has
Always enjoy your reviews even on a bike I probably wouldn't have considered, all info is good and you never know, I may even test ride one. Also appreciate the fact that you're the same height and leg length as me.
I like the review! thank you for doing that. Maybe it's just me that are not used to POV videos. I got dizzy when I was watching while you are riding. Thanks again for the great content!
was surprised of how informed you were about the Monster, was ready with my checklist but you got nothign wrong :D Not many mototubers get stuff right at all when it comes to talking about the bikes they test.
You have to remember, most of us do this for fun. I'm not a professional rider or journalist, but I did a little bit of research on the Monster as I found it quite interesting. I don't always research that deeply on a bike I'm riding, as 99% is about the bike, but it seemed right to find out more about this iconic machine.
I’ve noticed how this bike generated a wonderfully diverse feedback range. For me it’s just the initial price. Everything else after can be modified to taste. It’s a Ducati, they’re not cheap. I want to love it. Still trying. 👍👍🇨🇦🤪 Good review
a quick question for you have you ever tried the Ducati street fighter V2 it’s similar money the Suzuki GSX S1000 and the same engine power but the engine sounds very similar to the Ducati panigale V4 but without quite so much power and a good size fuel tank it might worth looking at especially as the Ducati has Quick shift as standard on those bikes including the V4 and the V4S and there’s another two models in that bike
This was a bike in my list , but didn’t end up test riding it due to the premium price Ducati ask for their bikes. So it was a decision between the new MT09 and KTM890 Duke. Test Rode the MT09 and such a big improvement over the premium generation. Almost put my money down then and there , but so glad I didn’t. As soon as I rode the KTM 890 Duke I fell in love. 6 months on ,and now 10k later I find it hard to fault. I commute , tour and it’s also my weekend weapon around the twisties. Best bike I’ve ever owned. Love watching your reviews. Keep up the great work 👍
Since you’re video on the Ducati Monster they have added other options for the exhausts which are a bit more more noisy and more like a Ducati should sound like
Yes far too quiet for a Ducati bike but at least they give you the option of different exhausts which add 4 bhp to the engine and more torque to the engine it might be worth your time trying one with that option
I will say one thing you’re right about the fact that the Ducati Monster is quite expensive for the sort of bike especially when there’s other bikes that have more power and more options on the bike so Ducati needs to upgrade the bike more in order for people to consider buying it when the Ducati Monster is still more expensive than the Suzuki GSX1000
Another great review. Nice bike BUT, it is expensive. In the recent past you have reviewed the GSX-1000, the Trident, and we have seen quite a bit of the CB650R. There is also the MT09 and the Duke. In the bottom line this is one more naked bike. I don't think the extra cost worth it.
It is not expensive. Itried to configure basic Duke890 with same accessories like Monster have from stock and it costs even more. Yep, MT09 or Suzuki couldnt be beaten from price perspective but F900R, Triumph RS, Duke…they all are on very similar price level. I do not regret any penny spent on my Monster. That machine feels premium, has outstanding agility and handling, is sexy and still has some feel of an exclusivity.
The extra cost you paid for ducati was always for the "wow, that's f-cking gorgeous" feeling. And that's gone now, looks like an 250cc MV Agusta Brutale.
@@mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm234 exactly Notice how no one talks about The Monster anymore? It’s because they’re no longer interested when there are So many nakeds out now this thing blends in like camouflage.
@@c.g.c2067 Lol, it's not MY brand though is it. I've only ever bought one Triumph and that was last year and after 25 years of riding other brands. Next. :D
@@Englishbikerdan I had a triumph truxton for 5 years before I got married and never riden again...but sick that suzuki taxes almost 4 grand in sweden and in UK only 10. So wierd
im not seeing you hit the higher gears. bit like my fireblade cant get out of 3rd. how much under seat room for anything no one does this. luggage fitting points like z650 Kawasaki.
This bike gets hot in normal traffic. Not panigale hot, but hot enough to make you spread your left leg. I’m talking about my experience in Florida weather
@@Englishbikerdan 🤣 once you're up in the revs it sounds much better. But just commuting around town it's not the best sound although it does seem to be a great bike
@@davidg2116 agree on both statements. That bike wants to be revved not cruised or it punishes u w awful sound... what is actually a good thing. If it's that good if u like keeping ur license... propably not. That sound really did remind me at cards kids put between spokes and frame of a pushbike.. atleast in my childhood 😀
Yes it's a Monster. I understand we grew accustomed to a Monster with a Trellis frame but that does not make it a absolute bare essential of a Monster. Especially not consindering how many motorcycles use a Trellis frame and Ducati absolutely wasn't the first one to use it. If we would have put people upset over this in leadership positions we would still be making fire by rubbing sticks.
Nice review & I like the bike but I'm put off by the budget suspension, especially for this price, not even preload on the forks. Seems mixed reviews on how good the suspension is but regardless of whether I need adjustable suspension or not, I want it & for that reason I wouldn't consider it. Especially when I could get a low mileage Streetfighter V2 for similar money as a new one of these.
Similar money? In the U.S., the V2 SF is $17,000. A Monster is $12,000. Have you seen any low mileage V2 SFs for twelve grand? And if you have please share.
@@kevincrockett5155Not sharing if I see one first. ; ) Also I'm not in the US & for similar money, not the same. In the UK the Monster+ is about £11,000 & the Streetfighter is £15,000 so not as big a gap.
Nice bike but I don't think I could listen to that exhaust note for too long before it would start to make me feel sorry I bought one 🤦🏻♂️ but everything thing else seems on point, oh except the price, a little on the expensive side compared to the competition
Don't doubt performance is great on the new Monster, but it just isn't a Monster without the trellis, I have an old Monster 1000ie and previously owned a Monster 696+ , wouldn't swap for the newbie. Thanks Dan.
I saw the new Monster in the flesh last time I had my Z900 serviced. I’m not really sold on the looks either - it looks too narrow and it’s lacking any standout design features imo. You mentioned that you’d would rather go with the GSX-S1000, but I would be interested in hearing how the GSX-750 stacks up compared to the new Monster given that they, price wise, represent opposite ends of the class?
S750 is a great bike but lacks low down power, where the Monster excels. The S1000 fills the torque void a bit over the S750 but I was more talking about for similar money I'd pick the S1000.
A couple things I’ve gathered from this video: -My 2017 SV650 looks more Monster than the new Monster -Would I really want to get an Italian MT09 without cruise control?
Exactly. I got my 797 in 2020 and you wouldn't believe how happy I was to still get one on them compared to this new...monster. Might not be a bad bike, not at all, but it forgot to be a proper monster. I rode it, and the whole muscle bike thing is just gone, too clean, too boring, visually as well as while riding it. And then the price? Nah. Just nah.
And as for the frame, I rode the old model when I was shopping for a new bike in 2020. It felt like a tractor. I ended up on a BMW F900R which rides like a well engineered Monster.
Hi Dan! Amazing review of a pretty awesome looking bike. Thank you so much. I was curious whether you would also consider doing reviews of older model bikes? Say mid 2000s/2010s?
Thanks! Insurance is the biggest issue. I simply can't get insured for business use on other people's bikes, unless it's on their company insurance. That said I was lucky enough to have a Suzuki bike from 2000 late last year. Look out for the review soon. 😁
@@toldenfr All their dealers around here are owned by Kawasaki UK, and they don't allow small content creators to make videos on their bikes. There are a few non-Kwak owned dealers around the country but they are too far away for me to test ride for an hour.
@@toldenfr Sadly not due to insurance. As what I do is considered work, I'd need to buy business insurance to cover me and it's far too expensive to cover other bikes.
@@legitrides8261 It might be how it is on that bike but it's a poor implementation of it. So many other bikes, twins too, work really well in 1st gear.
Ducati made the bike lighter and more powerful, which is cool, but at the sacrifice of looks. The previous model is much better looking and the one i would buy. If i want performance i would go for a sports bike
The problem is, all the competitors have made their naked bikes lighter and more powerful. So Ducati have to follow suit or not compete. I know for a fact had they gone the other way, I'd be reading comments like "yeah lovely looking but it's too heavy". Guaranteed.
About the price, if you want to buy a mercedes you not going to buy a vw because it is cheaper , about the sound it is stock much better ween you ride it than it sounds on RUclips Mine has a full termi and it sounds great And a suzuki is better because the handling is not so good but has more power , i don’t know how fast you ride on a public road in the uk but if you use those hp you are much much to fast
Let's be honest, even 111bhp is overkill for legal speeds on the road. I think Ducati should put louder pipes on. Look at the Aprilia Tuono 660. Sounds so good stock that I wouldn't get an aftermarket system at all.
Thank you Dan! Well, if you want good handling, the only "threat" comes from the KTM 890 Duke. Beleive me, I just love the MT09, always have, but every time I testride one, I get disappointed. Hard riding through curves makes it sway. Weight a minute! Yes, the weight makes a hugh difference. I rather have good handling, low weight and less power. Makes the ride better. So there went the GSX1000 in the bin! But that's me! Go out and test them all. Listen to your heart and convince your wallet. Be happy! No pockets in your final suit.
Agreed. I was so impressed with the 890 but not as much with the new Monster-the lumpy clatter at low speeds was odd. With a better can on it I’d like another go. The 890 seemed almost perfect power to weight ratio (if you can ignore the orange horror!). I’m a relatively new rider though so I know v little!
@@Englishbikerdan The new design of Yamahas is questionable indeed, for instance the new MT-09 looks awful in my opinion, hence I went now for the MT-07, eventhough I had a 2018 MT-09SP before, which I had to sold last year. Thank you for your response anyway!
For a Ducatista thats not à Monster, hope that Ducati gets his error and fixe it next bike but Well Nice bike but I would prefer buy the streetfighter between both models
My gosh, does that need some cans on it. It sounds really terrible. The original Monstro was a cheap(ish) bike in the context of Ducatis.. I think this new one has kinda missed the point.
Euro5 has hit once again. Was it a cheap bike though, relatively? I still thought it was fairly premium priced. In my eyes, they've made it lighter and better handling, to keep up with the competition. They've sacrificed looks, sure. Very un Italian but they are learning!
Overpriced bike like all Ducati products. The only advantage the Monster had versus the Suzuki SV (aesthetic), is gone with the removal of the old frame. I wish they sell it a lot but its competence has good value for money: MT07, CB 650, Trident, Suzuki SV...
Well, I mean the advantage it has over those bikes you mentioned are that it's faster, lighter and much better specced. However when you compare it to the same bikes in the class, MT09, KTM890 etc, it starts to even out some.
@@Englishbikerdan I haven’t ridden one but I might try and get a test ride booked. It’s so hard to overcome the sound though, at the best of times a twin sounds like 125, that’s definitely where the STRS shines though! Also looks wise I reckon the Triumph, well, triumphs. Also the quick shifter is flawless, I haven’t experienced the Ducati as I said so I’m not sure if it even has qs down or autoblipping…
They should have left the monster with the trellis frame as it was and call this monstrosity an MT 09 in Italian. They even already have naked biker the streetfighter. Why why why. The monster icon is gone now.
Honestly I barely noticed the absence of the trellis frame when I first saw this bike. I personally think the bike looks great! Lovely review!
they shaved 20kg by removing the trellis frame, or at least that is what I heard, I always loved the trellis frame of a Ducati but if I had to choose between 20kg less and the trellis frame, lightweight always wins for me. and to be honest the design is still killer!
I rode this bike last year as a replacement bike for one day and I fell in love with this beauty🔥
I have riden F900R, CBR650R, Duke890, MT09SP and I have Monster+ at home. Its so sexy with absolutely best agility and handling (duke is the only contender really). Also super software (wheele control, cornering abs, traction control…). Its so much fun to ride, I love it. Even the price is fine considering that I needed to add just heated grips (Duke in same configuration was even more expensive).
As long as you enjoy your ride. 👍
I'm glad Ducati got rid of that trellis frame and large tank the bike now came out of the dinosaur age .The new bike is awesome and with the race exhaust option sounds amazing. Totally love the new Monster.
Another great review of a good looking motorbike although i’m not a fan of the sound of the engine - it sounds like a sewing machine & a bit rattly.
You always put the information across in an unbiased way so keep up the good work & ride safely. Cheers, Mark.
Most Ducati's sound like that over You Tube. In real life though, they sound great.
Awesome bike. Love my 937 and it's my go to bike for any rides. Even taken it around the europe which pushed me far more than the ducati. A naked bike was not maybe the right choice but as I say I was stretched far more than the monster....brilliant bike
Nice review. Hoping to see you do the same with next year's SP model. I currently own a 959 Panigale but tired of wrist and back pain - the Monster SP looks like a good trade candidate. That or the Streetfighter V2 but the SP is much better spec'd.
Wow you have some serious clout now 68k bravo 🎉
I honestly don't think that way at all. I'm just a regular dude who loves bikes, like many of my viewers. I appreciate the sentiment though. 👍
I must be one of the few that like the look of this bike. Probably too small for me but a strong contender for my wife currently riding a 2015 Street Triple 675.
This bike actually looks far better in the flesh as I found out when I was in the dealership the other day. However, I reckon it's overpriced and I wouldn't swap it for my Street Triple which also doesn't sound like a bag of spanners.
I agree with you.but same day I saw this on the flesh I saw the mt09 so which I think it even look better in the flesh than this bike. Likewise I don't think it has enough for me to change. I feel previous generation made a stronger case for switching when we look at the style of the other bikes but now it doesn't seem to be enough.
There ain’t much on the market which would make me sell my Street Triple RS! Love my bike 🤘
two different bikes actually, the Monster is an allrounder the st. triple is more race focused...
@@c.g.c2067 I see the monster as a bike with the Ducati tax without the Ducati wow factor. That's why I am not a fan. I can proudly keep an mt09 or triple rs because of that.
When you buy a Ducati you definitely pay a little extra since it’s a top brand as Triumph for instance. The new Monster is a beautiful all rounder bike also targeting new riders which can benefit from top notch electronic package (cornering ABS), superb handling and braking.
The power is more than adequate.
Japanese bikes are allways cheaper due to numbers of sales worldwide and a lot of China based production. Triumph prices are high despite production plants and assembly are in India together with Ktm.
Ducati are mainly made in Italy as Ferrari, Maserati, Lamborghini, Moto Guzzi and Aprilia… or Mv Agusta.
If you look at Triumph’s Bonneville range (i ride a Bonneville) they are silly expensive for what you get.
The monster plus comes with upgraded exhaust system and the passenger seat cover is standard on that model but it’s an option on the model you were testing also the price has
Absolutely amazing work! Keep going. I just cant figure why this channel is so underrated.
Thanks 😍
Totally agree with ya there Dan to pricey but I have to say for me this incarnation is the best looking Monster , needs some sort of screen too : )
well if you look at Triumph Speed Twin or St.Twin I wouldn't call the Monster overpriced...
Well timed review as I’m still trying to make my mind up about buying this or a 2016-2018 Speed Triple.
This is an option against a speed triple ? Wouldn't even be an option against a street triple !
I happen to like the looks of this bike and am looking forward to a test ride someday soon.
Always enjoy your reviews even on a bike I probably wouldn't have considered, all info is good and you never know, I may even test ride one. Also appreciate the fact that you're the same height and leg length as me.
I like the review! thank you for doing that. Maybe it's just me that are not used to POV videos. I got dizzy when I was watching while you are riding. Thanks again for the great content!
Some people are affected by these sorts of vids. Thanks for trying to watch. :)
Great honest review Dan. It will be interesting to see how many are sold this summer. And i agree with your overhaul summary of the new Monster.
was surprised of how informed you were about the Monster, was ready with my checklist but you got nothign wrong :D Not many mototubers get stuff right at all when it comes to talking about the bikes they test.
You have to remember, most of us do this for fun. I'm not a professional rider or journalist, but I did a little bit of research on the Monster as I found it quite interesting. I don't always research that deeply on a bike I'm riding, as 99% is about the bike, but it seemed right to find out more about this iconic machine.
The middle weight category is stacked with fantastic bikes
Absolutely, we really are spoilt for choice!
I’ve noticed how this bike generated a wonderfully diverse feedback range. For me it’s just the initial price. Everything else after can be modified to taste. It’s a Ducati, they’re not cheap. I want to love it. Still trying. 👍👍🇨🇦🤪 Good review
You forgot to mention the red hot exhaust Dan, Agree on the handling its epic.
I didn't notice it.
1st service is at 600 miles (break-in). Next service is annual or 9000 miles. Valve service is 18,000 miles.
a quick question for you have you ever tried the Ducati street fighter V2 it’s similar money the Suzuki GSX S1000 and the same engine power but the engine sounds very similar to the Ducati panigale V4 but without quite so much power and a good size fuel tank it might worth looking at especially as the Ducati has Quick shift as standard on those bikes including the V4 and the V4S and there’s another two models in that bike
Great review, I think I’d go with the MT09 SP, best bang for the buck!
This was a bike in my list , but didn’t end up test riding it due to the premium price Ducati ask for their bikes. So it was a decision between the new MT09 and KTM890 Duke.
Test Rode the MT09 and such a big improvement over the premium generation. Almost put my money down then and there , but so glad I didn’t. As soon as I rode the KTM 890 Duke I fell in love. 6 months on ,and now 10k later I find it hard to fault. I commute , tour and it’s also my weekend weapon around the twisties. Best bike I’ve ever owned. Love watching your reviews. Keep up the great work 👍
That 890 is so good! Congrats. 👍
I think it looks better!
Since you’re video on the Ducati Monster they have added other options for the exhausts which are a bit more more noisy and more like a Ducati should sound like
Glad you found it. Yeah this was far too quiet!
Yes far too quiet for a Ducati bike but at least they give you the option of different exhausts which add 4 bhp to the engine and more torque to the engine it might be worth your time trying one with that option
I will say one thing you’re right about the fact that the Ducati Monster is quite expensive for the sort of bike especially when there’s other bikes that have more power and more options on the bike so Ducati needs to upgrade the bike more in order for people to consider buying it when the Ducati Monster is still more expensive than the Suzuki GSX1000
It's very nice.
I'd like to ride it back to back with the new Streetfighter V2 to see how different they are.
I’m getting this as my first bike
Another great review. Nice bike BUT, it is expensive. In the recent past you have reviewed the GSX-1000, the Trident, and we have seen quite a bit of the CB650R. There is also the MT09 and the Duke. In the bottom line this is one more naked bike. I don't think the extra cost worth it.
It is not expensive. Itried to configure basic Duke890 with same accessories like Monster have from stock and it costs even more. Yep, MT09 or Suzuki couldnt be beaten from price perspective but F900R, Triumph RS, Duke…they all are on very similar price level. I do not regret any penny spent on my Monster. That machine feels premium, has outstanding agility and handling, is sexy and still has some feel of an exclusivity.
I agree, I think my money would go on another bike with more adjustability with the suspension setup for track stuff too.
The extra cost you paid for ducati was always for the "wow, that's f-cking gorgeous" feeling. And that's gone now, looks like an 250cc MV Agusta Brutale.
@@mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm234 exactly
Notice how no one talks about The Monster anymore? It’s because they’re no longer interested when there are So many nakeds out now this thing blends in like camouflage.
Here in sweden the monster cost 12,800€ and gsxs1000 14,400€ so price wise not true to compare really
I don't live in Sweden, so relevant for me. 😊
You must understand that any Uk review needs to support their own brand, Triumph 🤣
@@c.g.c2067 Lol, it's not MY brand though is it. I've only ever bought one Triumph and that was last year and after 25 years of riding other brands. Next. :D
@@Englishbikerdan I had a triumph truxton for 5 years before I got married and never riden again...but sick that suzuki taxes almost 4 grand in sweden and in UK only 10. So wierd
Being new to the bike scene, I wont miss the trellis frame everyone is complaining about. Looks like a Neo-Cafe take from Ducati and I’m loving it
Look up the older monsters. Just before, chunkier and more imposing.
im not seeing you hit the higher gears. bit like my fireblade cant get out of 3rd. how much under seat room for anything no one does this. luggage fitting points like z650 Kawasaki.
Is it just me, or does the dash look much better in night mode?
I preferred that too. 👍
great review again. dont understand why Ducati didnt update the switch gear to be the same as the multi V2? much better to use
Because money.
Loved the reivew, thanks very much!
I love the bike except the stock exhaust, it sounds rubbish to me. Love the rest though
This bike gets hot in normal traffic. Not panigale hot, but hot enough to make you spread your left leg. I’m talking about my experience in Florida weather
Great feature for cold days here in central Europe :)))
well you've never ridden a Triumph Speed or Street Twin...
We don't get Florida weather down here, especially not in October when I rode it. Can't say I'd like toasted plumbs though!
Does this bike have a fuel gauge? Also is this smoother than the Ducati V2 Streetfighter?
Nice vid,love that bike, how the missenden flyer can call it a hairdressers bike i dont know . keep up the good work 😄👍🏻
He said what!?
@@Englishbikerdan He called it a hairdressers bike on his review, mental.
Just pottering around town it literally sounds like an old sowing machine.
Yep, I was expecting a nice pair of gloves by the end from it! 😂
@@Englishbikerdan 🤣 once you're up in the revs it sounds much better. But just commuting around town it's not the best sound although it does seem to be a great bike
@@davidg2116 agree on both statements. That bike wants to be revved not cruised or it punishes u w awful sound... what is actually a good thing. If it's that good if u like keeping ur license... propably not.
That sound really did remind me at cards kids put between spokes and frame of a pushbike.. atleast in my childhood 😀
Yes it's a Monster. I understand we grew accustomed to a Monster with a Trellis frame but that does not make it a absolute bare essential of a Monster. Especially not consindering how many motorcycles use a Trellis frame and Ducati absolutely wasn't the first one to use it. If we would have put people upset over this in leadership positions we would still be making fire by rubbing sticks.
It has this VW group styling compared to the older model..
Nice review & I like the bike but I'm put off by the budget suspension, especially for this price, not even preload on the forks. Seems mixed reviews on how good the suspension is but regardless of whether I need adjustable suspension or not, I want it & for that reason I wouldn't consider it. Especially when I could get a low mileage Streetfighter V2 for similar money as a new one of these.
Similar money? In the U.S., the V2 SF is $17,000. A Monster is $12,000. Have you seen any low mileage V2 SFs for twelve grand? And if you have please share.
@@kevincrockett5155Not sharing if I see one first. ; ) Also I'm not in the US & for similar money, not the same. In the UK the Monster+ is about £11,000 & the Streetfighter is £15,000 so not as big a gap.
This or the xsr900?.
The bike looks pretty good to me. 👍 I'd ride one.
It sounds really good with a Termignoni exhaust Was just looking around for vids and that and a tune seem to wake the bike up a lot.
Yep definitely needs new pipes to breathe!
Looks great. I'd buy one!
Good frank and honest review
I meant to put changed it’s no longer just over 10 thousand pounds instead it’s over 11 thousand pounds now
Please ride mv agusta brutale🙏☺️
Nice bike but I don't think I could listen to that exhaust note for too long before it would start to make me feel sorry I bought one 🤦🏻♂️ but everything thing else seems on point, oh except the price, a little on the expensive side compared to the competition
Ah but that's where a nice slip on exhaust comes in! 😁
Don't doubt performance is great on the new Monster, but it just isn't a Monster without the trellis, I have an old Monster 1000ie and previously owned a Monster 696+ , wouldn't swap for the newbie. Thanks Dan.
I saw the new Monster in the flesh last time I had my Z900 serviced.
I’m not really sold on the looks either - it looks too narrow and it’s lacking any standout design features imo.
You mentioned that you’d would rather go with the GSX-S1000, but I would be interested in hearing how the GSX-750 stacks up compared to the new Monster given that they, price wise, represent opposite ends of the class?
S750 is a great bike but lacks low down power, where the Monster excels. The S1000 fills the torque void a bit over the S750 but I was more talking about for similar money I'd pick the S1000.
So you'd pay MORE for the GSX for more horsepower? On those roads? You'd never utilize the entire power band of that Monster where you're riding at.
I wonder how these compare to the Supersport?
I hope to find out this year. Thanks! 👍
Cool helmet! 😎
Nice review, but I take my 1200s over this every day of the week including weekends. Looks very bland, a bit like a Z900.
The engine sounds terrible. Was there any oil in it?
Vegetable oil!
Dear Triumph, notice how fvcking easy it is to read the Ducati screen.
A couple things I’ve gathered from this video:
-My 2017 SV650 looks more Monster than the new Monster
-Would I really want to get an Italian MT09 without cruise control?
Haha, spot on about that 650!
Exactly. I got my 797 in 2020 and you wouldn't believe how happy I was to still get one on them compared to this new...monster. Might not be a bad bike, not at all, but it forgot to be a proper monster. I rode it, and the whole muscle bike thing is just gone, too clean, too boring, visually as well as while riding it. And then the price? Nah. Just nah.
@@mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm234 it’s lost it’s appeal from a visual standpoint. I cant see it as any more than a FZ09 with expensive service
@@Otterplus Totally agree. Then again, I know a few people who got a new monster and they're rwlly happy with it. Good for them. I guess.
How bad are the vibes at freeway motorway speeds again?
It felt reasonable to me.
And as for the frame, I rode the old model when I was shopping for a new bike in 2020.
It felt like a tractor. I ended up on a BMW F900R which rides like a well engineered Monster.
That euro 5 bikes are so strangled.😭
outside of Europe or California they sound great with Termi or Akra
Is it just me or have they made it look more like a Suzuki Gladius? Would still love one!
Haha, I see the resemblance!
Eek! Me too 🙈
Hi Dan! Amazing review of a pretty awesome looking bike. Thank you so much.
I was curious whether you would also consider doing reviews of older model bikes? Say mid 2000s/2010s?
Thanks! Insurance is the biggest issue. I simply can't get insured for business use on other people's bikes, unless it's on their company insurance. That said I was lucky enough to have a Suzuki bike from 2000 late last year. Look out for the review soon. 😁
could you try the Kawasaki ninja 1000SX?
Sadly not, I can't ride any Kawasaki machines.
@@Englishbikerdan why?
@@toldenfr All their dealers around here are owned by Kawasaki UK, and they don't allow small content creators to make videos on their bikes. There are a few non-Kwak owned dealers around the country but they are too far away for me to test ride for an hour.
@@Englishbikerdan thank you for your answer, very appreciated. Maybe you can try a new bike own by one of your followers?
@@toldenfr Sadly not due to insurance. As what I do is considered work, I'd need to buy business insurance to cover me and it's far too expensive to cover other bikes.
I don't think quick shifters are there so you can smash it from 1st to 2nd without the clutch. Some mechanical sympathy is required.
That's literally their job. My Tiger does it with no issues, as do many other bikes.
He's actually right. I have a new Monster. It likes the clutch from 1st to 2nd. After that the quickshifter can be used
@@legitrides8261 It might be how it is on that bike but it's a poor implementation of it. So many other bikes, twins too, work really well in 1st gear.
换代后舍弃了钢管编制车架之后，外观来讲并不如老款monster 821那么饱满，没有肌肉感
Ducati made the bike lighter and more powerful, which is cool, but at the sacrifice of looks. The previous model is much better looking and the one i would buy. If i want performance i would go for a sports bike
The problem is, all the competitors have made their naked bikes lighter and more powerful. So Ducati have to follow suit or not compete. I know for a fact had they gone the other way, I'd be reading comments like "yeah lovely looking but it's too heavy". Guaranteed.
Never been a fan of the urinal-shaped headlight.
😂
I gotta say, for somebody that does not care about the badge, this thing is quite overpriced if you look at the competition where I live.
well if you look at Triumph Speed Twin or St.Twin I wouldn't call the Monster overpriced...
At 18k miles that'd be the Desmo I guess
About the price, if you want to buy a mercedes you not going to buy a vw because it is cheaper , about the sound it is stock much better ween you ride it than it sounds on RUclips
Mine has a full termi and it sounds great
And a suzuki is better because the handling is not so good but has more power , i don’t know how fast you ride on a public road in the uk but if you use those hp you are much much to fast
Let's be honest, even 111bhp is overkill for legal speeds on the road. I think Ducati should put louder pipes on. Look at the Aprilia Tuono 660. Sounds so good stock that I wouldn't get an aftermarket system at all.
Thank you Dan!
Well, if you want good handling, the only "threat" comes from the KTM 890 Duke. Beleive me, I just love the MT09, always have, but every time I testride one, I get disappointed. Hard riding through curves makes it sway.
Weight a minute! Yes, the weight makes a hugh difference. I rather have good handling, low weight and less power. Makes the ride better. So there went the GSX1000 in the bin!
But that's me! Go out and test them all. Listen to your heart and convince your wallet.
Be happy! No pockets in your final suit.
Agreed. I was so impressed with the 890 but not as much with the new Monster-the lumpy clatter at low speeds was odd. With a better can on it I’d like another go. The 890 seemed almost perfect power to weight ratio (if you can ignore the orange horror!). I’m a relatively new rider though so I know v little!
So which do you like and buy?
@@dry509 I keep my lovely KTM 690 Duke for now😀
@@dry509 Of those two? The KTM
I guess you haven`t tried the new Mt09 then, it`s absolutely bonkers ! Especially Mt09-SP
The sex appeal is no long there❗
If I was purchasing another ducati, it would be the DesertX‼️
Oh you're talking about the bike! Phew. 😂
@@Englishbikerdan
Yep
Oh my lord.. That's a good argument right there.
Nice bike but I prefer the older one with the frame . Especially the stealth edition
Yep, many miss the trellis frame. 👍
as a 1200s owner. it just needs a v4 to make it more of a monster.
Now we're talking!
Watching videos where someone is driving on the left side of the street makes me nervous .. ;)
It's all good!
@@Englishbikerdan Most likely I will get my brandnew Ducati Monster from the dealer today. 😃
We’ve arrived to the point where an MT-07 looks better than a Ducati:D
I'd have to disagree there but taste is a personal thing. I can't stand Yamaha design language, save for the R1 and R7.
@@Englishbikerdan The new design of Yamahas is questionable indeed, for instance the new MT-09 looks awful in my opinion, hence I went now for the MT-07, eventhough I had a 2018 MT-09SP before, which I had to sold last year.
Thank you for your response anyway!
lmao, that ugly cyclop mt07
For a Ducatista thats not à Monster, hope that Ducati gets his error and fixe it next bike but Well Nice bike but I would prefer buy the streetfighter between both models
The engine noise sounds like a 125
That’s the exhaust you hear buddy… she’s being choked by cats
Seriously don’t understand how people can prefer this over the trellis... or even say its a good looker! Im shocked
If we all liked the same thing, the world would be a little dull.
….not sure about the look of this bike , might be the perellio tyres putting me off 😂👍🏻
Bloody Pirellioooo 😂
I know I prefer Micelin to
@@c.g.c2067 *too
Actually Pirelli are great tyres to be honest 👍🏻
@@c.g.c2067 I've tried a few, I really like the Diablo Rosso III, great in the wet too!
There's no pipe under the seat, it's not panigale
No it's a Monster. But the pipe is pretty close to the seat.
Is it just me, or do Ducatis sound like there's marbles in the engine? They sound terrible in my opinion.
They just need aftermarket pipes.
So that's another 2 grand!
Ride the Yamaha R7
My gosh, does that need some cans on it. It sounds really terrible.
The original Monstro was a cheap(ish) bike in the context of Ducatis.. I think this new one has kinda missed the point.
Euro5 has hit once again. Was it a cheap bike though, relatively? I still thought it was fairly premium priced. In my eyes, they've made it lighter and better handling, to keep up with the competition. They've sacrificed looks, sure. Very un Italian but they are learning!
Overpriced bike like all Ducati products. The only advantage the Monster had versus the Suzuki SV (aesthetic), is gone with the removal of the old frame. I wish they sell it a lot but its competence has good value for money: MT07, CB 650, Trident, Suzuki SV...
Well, I mean the advantage it has over those bikes you mentioned are that it's faster, lighter and much better specced. However when you compare it to the same bikes in the class, MT09, KTM890 etc, it starts to even out some.
Sound like tractor,what is that?
The exhaust is quiet, we need to hear the beautiful v2 sing. Fully silenced engines just sound weird.
It still looks good. Cheaper to service now with the longer intervals and a lot lighter. I wouldn't buy a Ducati, though.
They need to get rid of the desmo valvetrain like they did with the V4.
Third! Where's my medal? Jk 😅😂 Ride safe always mate.
It’s nice but no monster.
Is a too neat.
When you can get a brand new Street Triple RS for the same money, you’d be mad to buy this.
I would say, it rides every bit as good, better in terms of pure agility than the STRS. Just my opinion.
@@Englishbikerdan I haven’t ridden one but I might try and get a test ride booked. It’s so hard to overcome the sound though, at the best of times a twin sounds like 125, that’s definitely where the STRS shines though! Also looks wise I reckon the Triumph, well, triumphs. Also the quick shifter is flawless, I haven’t experienced the Ducati as I said so I’m not sure if it even has qs down or autoblipping…
Sorry Dan, if you would change gear a little more it would make it a far better review in my opinion. Thanks anyway.
Why?
They should have left the monster with the trellis frame as it was and call this monstrosity an MT 09 in Italian. They even already have naked biker the streetfighter. Why why why.
The monster icon is gone now.
I don't think Ducati are trying to win over those customers that loved the old Monster.
Light is better than cute
I hate that people park all over the place front to back back to front in the UK!
I hate dog poo. Worse substance in the world. I'd ban it if I could.
All these "how dare they improve weight and performance by taking away some of the visual aesthetics that I liked" people. haha.