Completely agree....Judiciary needs big reform to be both effective and efficient. That will help to set right the society to a very very great extent.
Brilliant analysis of the sloth we all reverently call the Indian justice delivery system. Read somewhere that 77% of Indians think that the judicial system is corrupt and incompetent.
It can tell you it is 100% corrupt. I already worked in courts and swore never to work again in any branch of judiciary. Resigned for govt job without having any future prospects it was that bad of an environment. These judges run the show purely like a colonial era. You're not even worth dirt of their shoes. Reimbursement they are given is through the roof half of the budget of employee emoluments is spend on their reimbursements alone.
Best part is NO ACCOUNTABILITY. IMPEACHMENT near impossible. And they won't allow COLLEGIAN SYSTEM to be changed. Once one becomes JUSTICE , he becomes like God, can do no wrong, can order anything. Not just that, the ARROGANCE, snobbery n display of intellectual gravity on their faces n behavior makes a common man shiver with fear. Great Going Indeed. Desh MAHAAN. JUSTICES USSE bhi MAHAAN.
True, I know decent English but when I read the bare act of the constitution or some new law passed i find it hard to comprehend, unnecessarily complicated language used.
India has about 25000 judges in Supreme Court, high court and district courts. That mean 1 judge for every 56000 people. Even if you consider only high and Supreme Court, that’s 1200 judges, or 1 per 1.2 million. I guess you should recheck your numbers, but the point that we have too few judges is taken
Based on the speaker's claim of India having 1 judge only for every 21 million people, it works out to 62 judges totally in the country. The fact is Madras High Court alone has 75 judges!
@@pheonixinfinitus2956 Even if India appoints 21 judges for 1 million people, as in the U.S according to the speaker, the problem won't be solved. Instead of imitating the Western model of a huge centralised judiciary we should go in the opposite direction, by empowering local communities to solve the problems by involving the wisest people among them. That was the principle of India's panchayats for thousands of years. They degraded in recent centuries but their Truth can be revived in new forms for the future.
@@TimelessMusicAndTalks us doesnt have a centralised judiciary. federal courts are different for federal laws and state courts are different for state laws. also lots of judges are elected not appointed
@Live Stream TV Your reply further reveals how much you adore the material achievements of the West and want India to imitate that. That's alright, as most educated Indians are still Westerners in outlook but labeling someone suggesting to explore a genuinely Indian alternative than imitating the West as suffering from the famous inferiority complex reveals banal thinking. Let me end this exchange from my side with a quote from The Mother of Sri Aurobindo Ashram, Puducherry: "Politics and so-called justice are still, in humanity, what is most closed to the Truth. But their turn for conversion will also come, perhaps sooner than we think."
Judiciary in India is a joke. It takes three births to get a judgement in a court of law. Like all areas of society, judges are appointed by other judges and its family, friends and relatives cabal Until merit is the criteria for selection of judges and the process is transparent, nothing is going to change in India. If the justice system does not change in the foreseeable future, the respect for judiciary which is very low will be evaporate and judiciary may face a Srilankan moment
Prof Harari: education should be learning to learn, emotional intelligence and meditation. English public schools for 5 to 18 year olds try to teach this and charge £9000 per term.
In India: Judge per million population is 21.03 and not 1 judge per million population. In US, the judge to population ratio is roughly 150. Kindly verify your facts.
@@yogeshpapnai5569 would be tough to implement right to recall here, every group will try to recall the judges if he doesn't give justice as pee their ideology
@@yogeshpapnai5569 bhai, I do know what is a recall procedure. But do remember we live in a third world and the issue with this world is enforcement deficit. It won't be implemented properly and every group will try to take advantage of it. It will work in mostly highly homogeneous white countries or states.
😂😂😂sare dhage khol diye . being an ex advocate legal system is fucked up 90% civil cases can be judged justice delivered (disposed)off with 90% accuracy the day they are filed but it lasts till infinity
our engineers are not skillfull thats the truth and many times i have come across such studies or polls ...and even statements cant vouch for 97% bcz plenty of studies are conducted on a regular basis ...but the impoartant thing is the message and 97% stat points to the essence of the problem ...alos ...many companies hr managers or ceo speak the same stuff ...most of the country engineers are just manual labour which is easily replacable ...if not today then in future with either recession or automation...also we dont create engineers ...its labour which wants to do mba upsc bank and other govt jobs ... i think thats enough to prove the saddening state of affairs ...so most of the graduating engineers are not even real engineers ..lol
most of our engineers whether its civil mechanical ...chemical ...all of them just seek job in google or regular IT companies ....lol i dont think this in anyway shows skills that we are creating in colleges as an engineer
Those commenting our engineers are not problem solvers, and work in regular companies like Google!! Please go and see kind of problems they solve. They may not be best, but they are pretty good still.
Solving Leetcode problems and clearing JEE and going to IIT are not problem solving. India doesn't have a product like Microsoft or SAP or Nintendo for all the IT prowess we boast. New products are emerging but smaller countries have done much better in building good products.
U can't build Microsoft in a country where 90% population earn less than $5 a day. U need to have demand. Economic is all about demand and supply. Microsoft like company can't be produced out of India for the same reason that the highest selling car model in India is Maruti and not Fortuner Or XUV. There is no demand in India to force any one to make products like Microsoft. Demand is entirely missing from India.
How do you expect to have innovation in a country where the government absolutely refuses to invest in R&D in any meaningful capacity? Not to mention the murder of meritocracy through reservations. There's simply no time, and no motivation to problem solve.
Abhijit has confidence but not facts, he is right to some account general overarching principle but he is wrong. . He says 97% engineers are incapable of problem solving, what nonsense. Literally anyone who has cleared JEE has good command in problem solving, thats literally what they are good at nothing else. Maybe tier 3 and below colleges are incapable but that also is not expected of them to problem solve at high level. They go for higher studies in NIT and IIT, not to forget skill certification from time to time. 97% is plain wrong. It should be 25% at max.
That is simply not true. I agree to a certain degree that most people who have cleared JEE are capable of problem solving but the point is that most engineers that are currently enrolled in courses simply have not cleared the paper. Out of the almost 1.5 million engineers produced in India, Barely 41K have cleared the exam. Most engineers do come from 3rd Tier Colleges lol
The one who enter IIT through JEE, knows that we are not trained to solve problems but answer expected questions in an expected in class trained way. Rarely if ever we were exposed to any engineering issues dealing with the problems society was facing. Most of the training was rot memorization and reproduction at the exam time.
@@angadsinghahuja9235 So you are saying 3% of enginerrs are 41k per year? Common man. As I said Tier 3 engineers are not expected to problem solve at that level of IITian, that doesn't mean they are not useful. And at later point of time they upgrade their skills I have seen. Similarly whosoever studies law need not be 100% good. Judges will be top 10% rest will be lawyers and what not. in engineering field that is definetely the case.
Completely agree....Judiciary needs big reform to be both effective and efficient. That will help to set right the society to a very very great extent.
Brilliant analysis of the sloth we all reverently call the Indian justice delivery system.
Read somewhere that 77% of Indians think that the judicial system is corrupt and incompetent.
It can tell you it is 100% corrupt. I already worked in courts and swore never to work again in any branch of judiciary. Resigned for govt job without having any future prospects it was that bad of an environment. These judges run the show purely like a colonial era. You're not even worth dirt of their shoes. Reimbursement they are given is through the roof half of the budget of employee emoluments is spend on their reimbursements alone.
AIM articulate and accurate as usual. Great talk
Best part is NO ACCOUNTABILITY.
IMPEACHMENT near impossible.
And they won't allow COLLEGIAN SYSTEM to be changed.
Once one becomes JUSTICE , he becomes like God, can do no wrong, can order anything.
Not just that, the ARROGANCE, snobbery n display of intellectual gravity on their faces n behavior makes a common man shiver with fear.
Great Going Indeed.
Desh MAHAAN.
JUSTICES USSE bhi MAHAAN.
AIB is quirky and interesting. Loved it!!👌
judicial system is fucked up in india as other overarching systems.
Thankyou Abhijit for giving us common folks an insight. There is muck everywhere.
Love Abhijeet
its 21 judges per million. not other way round.
AIM got that all wrong. USA has 100 judges per a million.
This video should be send to judges...hope they change
very good content on youtube!!! thank you AIM
VERY EYE-OPENING!! 🙏 THANKS AIM
Fantastic as always AIM.
29:22 AMAZING QUESTIONS OR UNCONSTITUTIONAL POSITION OF SENIOR ADVOCATE 🎉
@Abhijeet I am with you on Shakespeare :-) I am glad someone finally said it on a platform.
very Important topic , much attention needed in reformation , well presented by Ahijit Iyer Mitra 🙂
11:04 5 million cases as of today 🎉🎉🎉 out of that 4.5M+ cases in subordinate courts
Law as per G Austin - command of sovereign backed by sanction
Thanks to pondi lit fest for organizing!
Yeah
Well said.
AIM for PM
Loved it
True, I know decent English but when I read the bare act of the constitution or some new law passed i find it hard to comprehend, unnecessarily complicated language used.
AIM❤
Good video
Great Chicago reference XD
India has about 25000 judges in Supreme Court, high court and district courts. That mean 1 judge for every 56000 people. Even if you consider only high and Supreme Court, that’s 1200 judges, or 1 per 1.2 million. I guess you should recheck your numbers, but the point that we have too few judges is taken
Done
depressing reality of judicial system.
Based on the speaker's claim of India having 1 judge only for every 21 million people, it works out to 62 judges totally in the country. The fact is Madras High Court alone has 75 judges!
Well that still dosent solve the problem
@@pheonixinfinitus2956 Even if India appoints 21 judges for 1 million people, as in the U.S according to the speaker, the problem won't be solved. Instead of imitating the Western model of a huge centralised judiciary we should go in the opposite direction, by empowering local communities to solve the problems by involving the wisest people among them. That was the principle of India's panchayats for thousands of years. They degraded in recent centuries but their Truth can be revived in new forms for the future.
@@TimelessMusicAndTalks us doesnt have a centralised judiciary. federal courts are different for federal laws and state courts are different for state laws. also lots of judges are elected not appointed
@Live Stream TV I suggested believing in the genius of India and you are suggesting believing in the genius of the West!
@Live Stream TV Your reply further reveals how much you adore the material achievements of the West and want India to imitate that. That's alright, as most educated Indians are still Westerners in outlook but labeling someone suggesting to explore a genuinely Indian alternative than imitating the West as suffering from the famous inferiority complex reveals banal thinking. Let me end this exchange from my side with a quote from The Mother of Sri Aurobindo Ashram, Puducherry: "Politics and so-called justice are still, in humanity, what is most closed to the Truth. But their turn for conversion will also come, perhaps sooner than we think."
Network Custody and Security clearance system (NCS)
Judiciary in India is a joke. It takes three births to get a judgement in a court of law. Like all areas of society, judges are appointed by other judges and its family, friends and relatives cabal
Until merit is the criteria for selection of judges and the process is transparent, nothing is going to change in India. If the justice system does not change in the foreseeable future, the respect for judiciary which is very low will be evaporate and judiciary may face a Srilankan moment
Prof Harari: education should be learning to learn, emotional intelligence and meditation. English public schools for 5 to 18 year olds try to teach this and charge £9000 per term.
In India: Judge per million population is 21.03 and not 1 judge per million population. In US, the judge to population ratio is roughly 150. Kindly verify your facts.
@@yogeshpapnai5569 would be tough to implement right to recall here, every group will try to recall the judges if he doesn't give justice as pee their ideology
@@yogeshpapnai5569 bhai, I do know what is a recall procedure. But do remember we live in a third world and the issue with this world is enforcement deficit. It won't be implemented properly and every group will try to take advantage of it. It will work in mostly highly homogeneous white countries or states.
Thanks for pointing out. Though the core of his point still stands.
@Democrat Pls provide your source and if possible the link also. Just for info... Thanks
😂😂😂sare dhage khol diye . being an ex advocate legal system is fucked up 90% civil cases can be judged justice delivered (disposed)off with 90% accuracy the day they are filed but it lasts till infinity
Hey I am a BSc biotechnology graduate was planning to do 3 year llb is it not a good field to dive in?
First!!!🤘🤘
abhijit gora lag raha ha
Who will bell the cat.
Kabhi to reply Karo AIM
21 million per judge and 97% engineers not able to solve problems? Well maybe if problems are as big as you!!! ye vaala ganja apun ko bhi chahiye.
Abhijit sir is very courageous and practical person.
our engineers are not skillfull thats the truth and many times i have come across such studies or polls ...and even statements cant vouch for 97% bcz plenty of studies are conducted on a regular basis ...but the impoartant thing is the message and 97% stat points to the essence of the problem ...alos ...many companies hr managers or ceo speak the same stuff ...most of the country engineers are just manual labour which is easily replacable ...if not today then in future with either recession or automation...also we dont create engineers ...its labour which wants to do mba upsc bank and other govt jobs ... i think thats enough to prove the saddening state of affairs ...so most of the graduating engineers are not even real engineers ..lol
most of our engineers whether its civil mechanical ...chemical ...all of them just seek job in google or regular IT companies ....lol i dont think this in anyway shows skills that we are creating in colleges as an engineer
Those commenting our engineers are not problem solvers, and work in regular companies like Google!! Please go and see kind of problems they solve. They may not be best, but they are pretty good still.
@@Sagnikkandwal still it coolies...so much to become just a slave
Solving Leetcode problems and clearing JEE and going to IIT are not problem solving. India doesn't have a product like Microsoft or SAP or Nintendo for all the IT prowess we boast. New products are emerging but smaller countries have done much better in building good products.
U can't build Microsoft in a country where 90% population earn less than $5 a day.
U need to have demand. Economic is all about demand and supply. Microsoft like company can't be produced out of India for the same reason that the highest selling car model in India is Maruti and not Fortuner Or XUV.
There is no demand in India to force any one to make products like Microsoft.
Demand is entirely missing from India.
How do you expect to have innovation in a country where the government absolutely refuses to invest in R&D in any meaningful capacity? Not to mention the murder of meritocracy through reservations. There's simply no time, and no motivation to problem solve.
25:58 EXPANSION OF ARTICLE-21 Read all those bullishit interpretations especially RIGHT TO ENVIRONMENTAL AND WHAT NOT
Abhijit has confidence but not facts, he is right to some account general overarching principle but he is wrong. . He says 97% engineers are incapable of problem solving, what nonsense. Literally anyone who has cleared JEE has good command in problem solving, thats literally what they are good at nothing else. Maybe tier 3 and below colleges are incapable but that also is not expected of them to problem solve at high level. They go for higher studies in NIT and IIT, not to forget skill certification from time to time. 97% is plain wrong. It should be 25% at max.
That is simply not true. I agree to a certain degree that most people who have cleared JEE are capable of problem solving but the point is that most engineers that are currently enrolled in courses simply have not cleared the paper. Out of the almost 1.5 million engineers produced in India, Barely 41K have cleared the exam. Most engineers do come from 3rd Tier Colleges lol
Your Statement literally reflects what you blame Abhijit of having said, You have confidence not substance
I am a very good engineer working in IT, and being paid well. And what Abhijit is saying is 100% correct
The one who enter IIT through JEE, knows that we are not trained to solve problems but answer expected questions in an expected in class trained way.
Rarely if ever we were exposed to any engineering issues dealing with the problems society was facing. Most of the training was rot memorization and reproduction at the exam time.
@@angadsinghahuja9235 So you are saying 3% of enginerrs are 41k per year? Common man. As I said Tier 3 engineers are not expected to problem solve at that level of IITian, that doesn't mean they are not useful. And at later point of time they upgrade their skills I have seen.
Similarly whosoever studies law need not be 100% good. Judges will be top 10% rest will be lawyers and what not.
in engineering field that is definetely the case.