Real Road Test: Fiat Multipla! (Type 186) - Awful or Genius?

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  • Опубликовано: 26 дек 2024

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  • @Hairnicks
    @Hairnicks 3 года назад +63

    I loved mine, all the three back seats lift out completely, very easily, leaving you with a massive load space. We had it when we had 4 kids, annoyingly I got randy one night and we had a 5th and ran out of seats.

    • @interceptor-ss8kb
      @interceptor-ss8kb 3 года назад +4

      Or the 5th kid saved you from one ugly vehicle. 🤷‍♂️

    • @saab900classic6
      @saab900classic6 3 года назад +2

      @@interceptor-ss8kb or keep the car and get rid of an ugly kid

    • @jean-pierredeclemy7032
      @jean-pierredeclemy7032 3 года назад +2

      What replaced it then, my choice would have been a Citroen CX or Peugeot 504 familiale. In fact we had two CXs with just one kid and a dog. (serially, not both at once). The trouble was, I was always designated driver because I had the car that all my drinking friends could go out in.

    • @Hairnicks
      @Hairnicks 3 года назад +1

      @@saab900classic6 ha ha ha, they're all gorgweous!!

    • @a.b.6233
      @a.b.6233 3 года назад +1

      Or you could have bought a trailer to put in the back and made a 6th, 7th and 8th kid. Or simply do what I did after the 3rd, change hobby.

  • @stewartellinson8846
    @stewartellinson8846 3 года назад +54

    I'm on the side of "Genius" and the distinctive styling is fab. I'd always go for the diesel option and i may have to fight with kippers you for one. Then again, I can't really justify another car (A bike, on the other hand...)

    • @robenglish416
      @robenglish416 3 года назад +3

      Lovely odd design, a plus in my book. Would be interesting to compare to Honda FR-V, which is more conventional but still a little odd.

  • @timhancock6626
    @timhancock6626 3 года назад +52

    The revamped Multipla turned eccentricity into invisibility. The original ( i mean this one not the rear engined one) was brilliant, it's people who are fickle. The front vent is a face if you look carefully.

    • @caw25sha
      @caw25sha 3 года назад +5

      According to Wikipedia the Telegraph review said they were "desperately sad that the new Multipla no longer resembles a psychotic cartoon duck".

    • @TheAllyMor
      @TheAllyMor 3 года назад +2

      True, the facelifted version was a shocker by comparison.

    • @craigmclean8260
      @craigmclean8260 3 года назад

      @@caw25sha Funny! The new U.S. Postal Service vans (I think they're built by Grumman) have an odd resemblance to a duck head, rather like this Multipla.

    • @jonnycando
      @jonnycando 3 года назад +1

      @@craigmclean8260 It’s actually built by Oshkosh….Grumman built the last one…the new ones are some kind of strange looking though.

    • @craigmclean8260
      @craigmclean8260 3 года назад

      @@jonnycando Ah, okay...did not know that...thanks!

  • @MrJohnQCitizen
    @MrJohnQCitizen 3 года назад +11

    I used to drive brand spanking new Fiat's off the ship at Portbury Docks. Always admired the innovative design of the Multipla. A fine mechanised beast indeed Sire!

  • @volvo480
    @volvo480 3 года назад +30

    Some 10 years ago, a friend of mine needed a practical car because his wife is wheelchair-bound. And it needed to take him to work reliably.
    As he has really zero interest nor knowledge of cars, I suggested him to look for the van version of a Fiat Multipla JTD (no back seats and rear windows covered). He found one with a colour like in this video and it brought him many pleasant miles. The three seats abreast were more wide and comfortable than those in my car, a Matra Murena. Surely the car was mocked by others but criticism was countered immediately by its practicality and it surely drove better than a van.
    Unfortunately the car was killed in quite a spectacular crash on the motorway by a speeding drunk driver who caused such a carnage it was in the news.
    We couldn't find a suitable successor and finally settled for a Dacia Logan MCV, which is an equally underrated car.

    • @brianwhittington5086
      @brianwhittington5086 3 года назад

      There was a wheelchair accessible Multipla car conversion, a friend has recently bought a used one. Fold down rear ramp that will support a heavy electric wheelchair. The floor is altered to allow the wheelchair to go right through to the front passenger side and be lashed down. I think it leaves it as a 4 seat, plus the front wheelchair space as the middle front seat is lost. Not sure if the middle rear seat is retained or lost, but the outer rear seats are made to fold sideways to allow the wheelchair access to the front.

    • @NenadTrajkovic
      @NenadTrajkovic 3 года назад

      the fiat 500L is the direct successor to the multipla, even looking the same from behind

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  • @andrewmoorhouse687
    @andrewmoorhouse687 3 года назад +14

    A great piece of design. Fiat were really on a roll looks-wise at the time; the Bravo and Brava were real lookers too and different to anything else. My brother had a 1.6 petrol Bravo in a similar dark blue. It was a cracking car. Car design seems to go in phases between safe and brave and Fiat had definitely swallowed some brave pills in the nineties. I do wonder if these cars encouraged Ford to be bold with its Mk1 Focus? Another great piece of design in my book and remains a favourite among those I’ve owned. I sometimes toy with the idea of owning another.

  • @d2factotum
    @d2factotum 3 года назад +31

    I've often thought that if Fiat spent half as much attention to detail on actually putting the cars together as they do on their industrial design their cars would be truly Godly.

    • @chrishart8548
      @chrishart8548 3 года назад +2

      Bit like Peugeot and Renault. High spec sturdy cars with good engines and cheap. but shit just goes rong.

    • @d2factotum
      @d2factotum 3 года назад +2

      @@chrishart8548 To be fair there, the Dacia Sandero I've had for three years (which is basically a grab bag of Renault components) has been almost entirely reliable, touch wood, and it's certainly better built than the Fiat Panda I owned before it.

    • @johnmiller9024
      @johnmiller9024 3 года назад +1

      Fiat=Fix it again Tony 😜

    • @chrishart8548
      @chrishart8548 3 года назад +1

      @@d2factotum those dacia cars seem to be doing OK but they need to be. People would love to hate on them if they turn out crap. Must be the tried and tested Renault/Nissan parts.

    • @p166mx
      @p166mx 3 года назад

      @@d2factotum I had a had a Panda 2010 for 7 years since new, to be fair the interior build quality was while looking cheap was supurb. Nothing snapped or broke off but there were a few too many silly electrical issues which I ended up having to fix myself. I think towards the engine the gear linkage was failing too, although fours later I spotted the car on the road and according to the MOT history it is still going strong. I am not sure if anybody fixed the linkage or it was just me being fussy :D

  • @TheUnwritersOfficialChannel
    @TheUnwritersOfficialChannel 3 года назад

    Great video!! We are new owners of a 2008 1.9 diesel model. When we tried it, we didn't hesitate for a second. This car is fantastic !!

  • @andrewstones2921
    @andrewstones2921 3 года назад +7

    I want one! I can’t believe these have been overlooked for so long. Back in 2000 I was working for a firm of accountants and one of the senior partners bought one of these for his wife, of course we laughed and mocked at the time but I recall him telling us how unique it was.. anyway at the time they were all new, then I went off to Asia to work for 16 years and on my return I found myself looking for a good one of these and there were none… I’ve been half heartedly looking now for almost 5 years and I’ve yet to see a minter for sale in RHD.

    • @brendanstorey7005
      @brendanstorey7005 3 года назад

      Hi before i list my multipla i liked your message,it's time to say goodbye to my multipla mechanically it's very good has its faults I've had it over 10 years and it's got full mot and a full tank of fuel and it's the mark 1 message me if your interested 😎

  • @chuckmorris7553
    @chuckmorris7553 3 года назад +15

    I owned the JTD for a couple of years. It was a fantastic car, infinitely better than the dreadful Zafira that replaced it.......

    • @lodekka
      @lodekka 3 года назад +1

      I too had a the JTD, then (after a Picasso) the Zafira diesel. It was a car with a particularly badly designed interior and had the most uncomfortable car seat I've ever sat on. It felt more grown-up than either the Picasso or Multipla and had better suspension, but really was dire as an MPV.

  • @multislipful
    @multislipful 3 года назад +3

    I owned one from 2001 until 2010. My children adored it, and there was usually some discussion about who would ride in the front middle. You did miss that the rear seats could be removed easily after pulling one tag, making the Multipla into a very commodious van. The upper front lights were for main beam only. Mine was a diesel, handled well, and could easily manage a family trip to somewhere deep in France. It was very frugal. I actually liked its looks. Anyhow, for those who don’t, you cannot see the outside when you’re on the inside! I definitely think there ought to be a Hubnutipla on your fleet.

  • @andrewpreston4127
    @andrewpreston4127 3 года назад +5

    Really good review, thank you. Even though I was never in need of a multi-multi seater vehicle, I've always liked the looks of the original Multipla. Dash and instrument area too.

  • @duncanmartin2626
    @duncanmartin2626 3 года назад +1

    I had a diesel one - bought with over 200,000 miles and sold when it had done 276,000 miles! It had been chipped up to about 150bhp too (if you go higher the clutch becomes an issue). There were loads of quirks (like the door handles that stick up so you have to slap them down or the doors won't shut), but it's an astoundingly practical car.
    Some lunatics in Poland put the 20VT engine from a FIAT Coupe into one - that looked spectacular.

  • @danieleregoli812
    @danieleregoli812 3 года назад

    Amazing bit of engineering, practical, spacious, reliable, frugal, comfortable....you name it. But boy was it ugly! My uncle had three JTDs in a row. Still misses them these days.

  • @shand1967
    @shand1967 3 года назад +2

    My brother in law had the bug eye and the later facelifted version, both turbo diesels. I borrowed his bug eye one for a family holiday in Suffolk. Brilliant family car. You get used to the width and with that central seat folded it makes a great space for drinks and sandwiches etc.Mr Furious Driving would love it. Both my brother in laws Multiplas did thousands of miles with no problem and he loved them.
    I have driven a FRV and that great too. Might be a better bet for you.

  • @neverquit2470
    @neverquit2470 3 года назад +19

    Multipla has more sense nowadays than before: if Stellantis decide to relaunch this amazing model in an electrical version it will succeed!😊...Maybe in a suv new design!

    • @Candisa
      @Candisa 3 года назад +5

      No, not an SUV, those are the opposite of a Multipla: huge on the outside, claustrophobic on the inside. All the Multipla needs are sleek colour coded bumpers, braver colours (the bravest colour the Multipla ever came in was a darkish red, it needs the colour range of the first Renault Twingo), projector headlights (same shape!), and better interior plastics to bring it right back to market with a modern (hybrid) drivetrain.

    • @Perkelenaattori
      @Perkelenaattori 3 года назад +2

      The ID Buzz will need competition. I seriously hope they do.

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L 3 года назад +3

      @@Perkelenaattori yes! With floors that big you can easily get 300-400mi ranges (so 200-300 in winter; still very very practicable)

    • @clivestainlesssteelwomble7665
      @clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 3 года назад +2

      @@kaitlyn__L
      Its like the mk 1Twingos big bro and yes its much more ahead of 80% of what we have now and so good for repowering.
      As for the hand brake a dash mounted pull and twist or squeeze would have been a spot on feature.😎
      Personally ive never been a big fan of sun roofs 🤔..leaks and tend you tend to get your head and neck burnt. 😥

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L 3 года назад +1

      @@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 oh crap I didn’t even think about recharging the chair in the car! That’s definitely another benefit for a big day out. And yeah a central handbrake (or a modem electric handbrake) would be a must.
      Sunroofs are always divisive! My father felt the same as you so I loved travelling in friends’ cars when they did have sunroofs haha.

  • @simonduckworth5941
    @simonduckworth5941 3 года назад +3

    ‘Time has been kind to this’ - Spot on Ian. Really enjoyed your review 👍

  • @stippolyte
    @stippolyte 3 года назад +15

    Y E S you need to buy one, would love to see a V6 or i5 conversion, possibly even a turbo 😁 . I miss the hanging bootstrap closer on the hatch of my Octavia 4*4. Is the Xedos in the video not worthy of a Hubnut mention, loved the 6 & 9 when new.

    • @ZIGZAG12345
      @ZIGZAG12345 3 года назад +2

      YES, I enjoyed the Multipla review, but I too was eyeing that Xedos with some appreciation!
      Can't remember the last time I saw a real one with my own eyes...

    • @Andrew.bergin
      @Andrew.bergin 3 года назад +3

      I have a Xedos. It is a sublime drive. A car I will never sell.

    • @ferrumignis
      @ferrumignis 3 года назад

      There is at least one Multipla that had a Fiat Coupe 20VT engine conversion. Having owned 20VT Coupe, that must have been an entertaining car.

  • @TheOmegastoopreme
    @TheOmegastoopreme 3 года назад +2

    I used to have a brava (yes the 5 door one with the funky lights) and it was fantastic to drive. Always wondered what one of these would be like as it was basically a brava with a stovepipe hat.

  • @lr_s3102
    @lr_s3102 3 года назад +9

    Doug DeMuro reviewed one a while back and couldn't stop laughing at how strange it was.
    Although I think he was genuinely impressed with it when it was one the road!

  • @googleuser2571
    @googleuser2571 3 года назад +2

    Both people I know that had these absolutely raved about them (and still do). Practical, handy and surprisingly tough family workhorses. They were both diesels.

  • @icascone
    @icascone 3 года назад +2

    Oooh the late 90's!!
    Thank you for doing this... I remember in the late 90's there seemed to be great excitment and getting ready for the new millenium there also seemed to be an economic boom... I also recall your video of the Fiat Bravo in NZ!
    I do remember those and liked them because they were different, but still yarned for the Opel Vectra wagon with the black roof rack rails... Oh well...
    I also recall you saying how car design really peaked in the late 90's/early 2000's and it does reflect how times have changed since.... Sign.........Let's hope for better times though!

  • @chriswhite3378
    @chriswhite3378 3 года назад +1

    An ex partner of mine used to have one of these with the diesel engine which I drove from time to time and I must say it was a really nice car to drive. Enjoyable review Ian.

  • @chrislaf2011
    @chrislaf2011 3 года назад +1

    I had a Multipla just like this as a company car, chosen to accommodate two young children, and have ability to take six people in total. I think the design was brilliant, and very underrated. The layout of three abreast seating was a clever way of maximising space usage. The quirky exterior design gave it a higher level of character, which most cars, then and now lack. The interior features were also very well thought through and executed. For example, the three rear seats could be completely removed if needed; the door pulls were big and chunky. The interior was clean and light from the twin sun-roofs. All in all it was a car designed to really function, but with a lot of style too. It wasn't designed to satisfy the boy-racer or attempt to appeal to them, and was all the better for that. If there was one down side, I'd say it was the boot space was too small. If they'd added maybe an extra 20cms to the length and increased the boot volume it would have been almost perfect as a family + friends car for everyday or holiday. And it was fun to drive too, I miss it!

  • @TrevorBuick
    @TrevorBuick 3 года назад +2

    Had a Marea weekend estate with the 5 cylinder 20valve, lovely sound

  • @DavidColex
    @DavidColex 3 года назад +1

    11:29 the Alfa 156 platform was derived from the Bravo/Brava, but it was different in at least 60% of its architecture. Also the engine mounts weren't the same except for the 1.9 jtd versions. All in all a Busso Multipla would require much welding and cutting.

  • @garrymartin6474
    @garrymartin6474 3 года назад +24

    A harsh quote from the Sunday Times, "The tragedy of the Multipla is that its Elephant Man esque exterior enclosed a genuinely clever and spacious interior, and it wasn’t bad to drive, either. It’s a shame, then, that you’d rather walk than be seen in it." The revamped version reminds me of a giant Panda !

    • @Endfloat
      @Endfloat 3 года назад +9

      I won a giant panda at the fun fair once.

    • @LFBsmokealarm
      @LFBsmokealarm 3 года назад +2

      @@Endfloat Good work sir!

    • @Moggster23
      @Moggster23 3 года назад +1

      @@Endfloat how did it drive?

    • @smithp573
      @smithp573 3 года назад +5

      The facelift ended up looking like an Idea that’d held in one too many farts.

    • @Endfloat
      @Endfloat 3 года назад +3

      @@Moggster23 a bit woolly.

  • @cachebangwallop3482
    @cachebangwallop3482 3 года назад +1

    Great video as ever! Well done for belatedly remembering the Honda FRV...just to mention you also forgot the McLaren F1 😉

  • @allanfoster6965
    @allanfoster6965 3 года назад +1

    Do not worry about the width. Take a Hublet and use the family spaces which are wider. Mind you it is not as huge and ungainly as any of the modern Leutenant Grüber's 'Little Tank' (aka. Any Audi/Merc SUV). 😊👍👍

  • @KLUTCHdot58
    @KLUTCHdot58 3 года назад +3

    Great review as usual. The 5 cylinder is a possibility as I saw one in Italy a few years ago with a turbo 5 banger installed. Unfortunately I couldn't get to speak to the chap that built it.

    • @ferrumignis
      @ferrumignis 3 года назад

      There was at least one conversion in the UK that used the turbocharged IL5 220bhp engine from the Fiat Coupe 20VT

    • @alexandermathar7780
      @alexandermathar7780 2 месяца назад

      The turbo 5cyl boosted to 450 HP. All seats removed except the driver's seat and you've got a 10 sec dragster !

  • @garymackin2368
    @garymackin2368 3 года назад

    I owned a jtd for 2 years. Loved it, mad as a box of frogs. Having a middle seat for Bella( my dog) to snuggle me was magnificent and the ability to remove the seats and turn it into a van was incredible. On the down side it was equipped with Italian electrics. It ran out of electric one night in Wales. No reason, it just did. In the lake district all the rear bulbs blew at 9pm one evening. Only found out when a dibble pulled me over. Even the bloody number plate bulbs. Stuck a porsche badge on the bonnet and bloody loved it. Did over 50mpg No matter how you thrashed it. They grow on you

  • @arnonmus1
    @arnonmus1 3 года назад

    Hello from Australia HubNut what a lovely video you have produced, not that your other content lacks for anything but I love it when you test cars such as this. You are a lot braver than I am in being prepared to live with a decades old Fiat I must say, all the componentry in that car would be way past its Turin design life.

  • @MapleMarmite
    @MapleMarmite 3 года назад +2

    Definitely in the category of ‘Not for me when new - but yes, please, now.’ Would be an ideal HubNut family limo.
    Not just me who uses the handbrake, then. Here in Canada, front seat passengers go in to panic when I apply the ‘emergency brake’ for a hill start in a manual. Also, if you encounter someone who drives a manual, you often hear the complaint that people get too close behind them on a hill because they ‘need to roll back a bit to drive ahead’… I do leave plenty of room for people to do that now I’ve seen a few doing a dubious pedal shuffle.

    • @collinhunter9792
      @collinhunter9792 3 года назад +2

      omg,imagine doing hill starts with a roll back tbh, British examiners would have heart failure!!!!!!

    • @MapleMarmite
      @MapleMarmite 3 года назад

      I think a lot of the problem is that they mostly instruct people in automatics and, unlike the UK, once you have passed your test in the auto it qualifies you to drive a manual as well. So most people that go on to drive a manual have either taught themselves or been shown by family or friend.

  • @SuperFIFTHGEAR
    @SuperFIFTHGEAR 3 года назад

    When I last visited Krown, probably around 11 months ago Rob mentioned replacing the Alfa as it needed work, but didn't think he'd get one of these. In regards to the Krown product I had my Golf undercoated there originally in November 2018, I then went back last October and was impressed that so much of the car was still covered. Rob there recommended me leaving it 3-4years before going back. He only reapplied the product underneath the car, but really impressed with Krown.

  • @stephenswift9868
    @stephenswift9868 3 года назад +2

    I like these a lot! Such personality and practicality. Apparently they handled quite well, it was width versus the relatively short length that made them so.

  • @jarlrise
    @jarlrise 3 года назад

    It's about the same width as a mk4 Mondeo, but being close to a meter shorter really makes it look very wide :)
    Good video as always!

  • @lrochfort
    @lrochfort 3 года назад

    My Dad had two of these 10 to 15 years ago and he loved them. The diesel seemed quite torqy and didn't have too much drivetrain shunting. It makes a great van, too, of course.

  • @gazgandalf4854
    @gazgandalf4854 3 года назад +4

    I like the Multiple when it first came out, it broke the mould of 'roach' shaped cars. Like you Ian, I enjoy unusual cars - they're so much more interesting.

  • @Fogeyspasm
    @Fogeyspasm 3 года назад +1

    Brilliant car. Loads of space inside, superb visibility, loved the dash and beat this. Took ours for a few laps round Donington race circuit after Touring Cars. Handled pretty well for an MPV.

  • @trevatkin4869
    @trevatkin4869 3 года назад +1

    I'm with you on this one Ian, I think because it is different it's great. I love the interior door handle areas, they remind me of either handbags or like a radio with a round handle.

  • @ryo.hayshed_mcmlxix
    @ryo.hayshed_mcmlxix 3 года назад

    I have 2010 (dull-looking) Multipla II with 1.9 JTD, bought secondhand with 150k km on clock. Brilliant.
    When I was looking for one, the dealer said to avoid other engine option (“Bi-Power”, gas/petrol) if we’re on hills (Italian hills). JTD indeed is a good motor.
    Our local mechanic said “this IS a car FIAT should be proud to have made”. I agree.
    On my LHD car, there’s no problem with the position of handbrake lever.

  • @waynetetley584
    @waynetetley584 3 года назад +3

    Some angles reminds me of the smaller Renault Modus. Great test. 3 abreast in the spirit of the Matra Simca Bagheera 👍😊

  • @KiwiStag74
    @KiwiStag74 3 года назад +1

    When these came out and I first saw one on the motorway heading to work, I was so distracted by its differences to anything I had seen before, that I wasn't paying enough attention to where I was going and nearly clipped a median barrier. A first for me....
    I could not figure out who made them because I was distracted by its......er......unique.... ...front end styling. Words like "aaaaarrrggghhhh!" and "aaaaarrrggghhhh!" again, along with phrases along the lines of "what were they thinking?" and "they really swatted it with the ugly stick, didn't they?", interspersed with many Anglo-Saxon epithets used as adjectives, verbs, adverbs, conjunctions and exclamations were used. To say the reasons behind the styling were lost on me was an understatement!
    However, time has been good to the Multipla. We have had many other "unique" designs since then and so its initially "way out there" looks seem to have been tamed somewhat. I must admit that the outside view of the vehicle put me off so much that I never dared look inside, let alone drive one in case someone thought I light actually LIKE it. Your video, Ian, has opened my eyes and shown me what I was missing out on. It looks to be a rather well thought out and practical vehicle (handbrake excepted).
    For instance, I never knew that you could get to ALL of the engine under its bonnet! I always thought it would be the same as other MPVs and pretty much be inaccessible for the most part. I truly like the three-abreast seating and the boot space with the seats still up is surprisingly spacious given the very deceptive cargo blind. I also LOVE the twin sunroof idea - something that (as I grew up in the 70s and 80s) would have been a lovely feature for me as a kid, looking into the sky and also for the additional ventilation seeing as both of my parents smoked and we ended up with a face-full of hot ash if we had our side window open.
    Thinking about it though, it only has one extra seat than Betty the Fairmont....and the Fairmont would have a similar parking size issue (as did my many Commodores). However, if I asked you which you would prefer to drive, I believe I would know the unhesitating answer you would give me.
    I have never understood the MPV market space as I have also driven a Mitsubishi L300 Sportpac coach and thought that if you wanted seating for more than 5 people, then this was a better way to go....and it has more space to boot. What does an MPV have over a well-trimmed van?
    I drove my sister's Mazda MPV a few times and totally disliked the fact of the rear seating being more or less up against the tailgate for the same reason you do....so they have that in common with a van. I liked the power of the V6 that was in the MPV, but did not like the driving position or the fact that it felt like I was driving a fully loaded van. It was very frumpy, rolly and pitchy on the road and I felt my will to live draining out of me to the rumble, drone and echo in that hateful beige interior, whereas the Sportpac seemed more refined and I expected it to behave the way it did on the road The MPV remains one of the worst vehicles I have ever driven for enjoyment factor and, to me, something I could never drive long distance without getting quite grumpy. I hope that is not the same in the Multipla......
    I've just seen your 'reveal' of the one you've purchased, so in time you will be able to report back on what its like to live with. I truly hope it's better than my experience with the Mazda!
    All the best.

  • @petervanriet5389
    @petervanriet5389 3 года назад +2

    I've always loved the design. It's a nineties interpretation of the old horse carriage. What the first cars were: horse carriage with an engine. These old cars usually had en extra set of headlights. And the roofline of the Multipla reminds me of these old softtops that the oldest cars had. The design is absolutely brilliant.

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L 3 года назад +1

      I’d not looked at it that way before but I totally see it!

  • @In_memory_of_Dad
    @In_memory_of_Dad 3 года назад +2

    Ian if you like the 1.6 version you absolutely must try a diesel version. The diesel version is so much better and if I'm honest in 25 years of driving and having a wide array of cars the engine in the diesel Multipla is one of the best engines iv ever had in a vehicle. My friend used his as a taxi and managed to rack up 326000 miles in his on the same engine and gearbox it was made with having only 1 clutch replacement and servicing the vehicle very very regularly. And it is still on the road being used now by his wife as its the perfect car for their grandchildren. I wouldn't have a petrol version Ian but I can tell you the diesel is a very good car...🙂👍👍👍

  • @LeightonW87
    @LeightonW87 3 года назад +1

    That blue colour really complements the design of the Multipla, dare I say it makes it look quite nice, I teased the wife about getting a Multipla for my next car awhile ago but she didn't like the thought of that. shame that they are becoming harder to find, at the time of writing this I could only find one non facelift Multipla on ebay.

  • @christopherford1800
    @christopherford1800 3 года назад +2

    I hated the look of these when they first came out but over the years it grown on me I would go as far to say I would have one very practical and Fiat not a bad engine thanks Ian nice to see an in depth look of this

  • @connelp72
    @connelp72 3 года назад +1

    Always had a soft spot for these, although I appreciate they were very marmite. I think this era was an excellent one for Fiat designs. Another great HubNut vid!

  • @Twmpa
    @Twmpa 3 года назад

    We ran a 2001 JTD ELX for 11 years and 80000 miles. We did everything with it including a house move, towing a four berth caravan to Fort William (from the West Midlands) and many other things. Almost faultlessly reliable the whole way apart from a freak failure which meant I had to change the gearbox and, despite many media reports to the contrary, the engine never consumed a drop of oil between changes. Brilliant car.

  • @mattw8332
    @mattw8332 3 года назад +1

    Had to go back and watch the road test that spawned the latest purchase!
    Did the Krown wax protection place use to be a car wash?

  • @fr4nn4
    @fr4nn4 3 года назад +1

    Always been a fan of these! Few (if any) small MPV's are memorable or distinctive - have to respect Fiat for cladding ingenious packaging in such a bold design - "ugly" is unfortunately most people's synonym for "different" 😣

  • @niklaswejedal463
    @niklaswejedal463 3 года назад +3

    I always loved these! Typically, I love one-box-MPVs like the Espace I - IV and similar, with their high-speed-train-look, but this is just so charming and quirky, I just have to adore it. I'd say any modern premium SUV is by far more ugly than this. It is playful in the same was as the original Renault Twingo - you have to be a pretty boring person not to like it. I support your idea to look in the classifieds to the fullest! Do it - do it - do it! :D

  • @tallblokesam
    @tallblokesam 3 года назад +1

    I've always liked the Multipla, I worked at a bodyshop that repaired Motability cars when they were current and they were very popular with the older generation that could easily step into them and fit scooters and chairs in the boot.
    It'd be good to find the often forgotten Honda FRV for a comparison test, we used to see a fair few of them too.

  • @AnyoneSeenMikeHunt
    @AnyoneSeenMikeHunt 3 года назад +4

    That is so extremely weird and fugly I actually like that it's around to contrast the daily dull grey plebmobiles.
    Its Awful AND Genius.

  • @fhwolthuis
    @fhwolthuis 3 года назад

    Great video Ian! In the Netherlands there is at least one which has a 5 pot fitted. If you want one I suggest you find a diesel with a working aircon 😁👍

  • @admiralalcatraz6080
    @admiralalcatraz6080 3 года назад +5

    I have always liked the Multipla, very nearly bought a 1.6 but didn't. Can't find any now.
    At least the handbrake is tucked back by the seat, I had a Citroen Dispatch and kicked it out getting out on a hill, which didn't end well.

  • @craigmclean8260
    @craigmclean8260 3 года назад

    What a delightful vehicle that we never got in the States! The "quirky/unique/practicality" was a big reason why I chose a Honda Element as a new car/SUV in 2003 (when they were new). Very handy for loading things (they were very popular w/ dog-groomers/dog-owners), but only four seats. Similar gear lever placement, but like the Multipla, it revved out to 3800 RPM at 75 MPH; I wished it had a 6th gear.

  • @ianfrost3529
    @ianfrost3529 3 года назад +1

    My stepdad hired a 1.6 petrol years ago to go on holiday to Scotland from Plymouth he hated the looks but the car really grew on him on his time away.
    And down here a fare few diesel versions were used has taxis they have since switched to the Honda FRV another odd ball

  • @alastairwarwick2724
    @alastairwarwick2724 3 года назад

    Great vid as usual. Have always loved these, but then I was 12 when they came out and I'm well aware of my rose-tinted fondness for 90s fluid design compared to today's offerings.
    Cameos for Xedos and a yellow 156 (!) only makes this even more re-watchable

  • @julianowens4071
    @julianowens4071 3 года назад

    I bought one about 17 years ago,loved it but was bullied so much by friends I sold it.sadly because now I’m older I couldn’t really care less what people think
    Great review as always
    Cheers

  • @ukbeeps
    @ukbeeps 3 года назад

    I can remember a family member having this car and they absolutely loved it.

  • @andrewthompsonuk1
    @andrewthompsonuk1 3 года назад +1

    Good to see you outside Krone Rustproofing, I think you need to spend more time there...

  • @gib112
    @gib112 3 года назад +4

    The plush version is the Rover James 😁

  • @tommynyberg2122
    @tommynyberg2122 3 года назад

    Bought one in 2000. Likes cars that stand out. Fantastic design. Still driving the car after 22 years. I hope I can keep it for several more years.

  • @markonmotoring
    @markonmotoring 3 года назад

    When these launched I was firmly in the "what on earth is that, the front looks weird" camp, but....
    It's very interesting now, especially that interior which is so bright and I really like all that colour including in the dash and rear parcel shelf. All those curves inside are so late 90s which is definitely a good thing (as a late 90s car owner myself).
    I expect a lot of family fun could be had in that car.

  • @EmyrDerfel
    @EmyrDerfel 3 года назад +1

    Multipla is easier to park than a Ducato, but van-spec mirrors and knowing how to reverse into parking bays definitely make life easier.
    I drive a Peugeot Boxer L3 = 6m long, which is about 1.3 standard bay lengths.

  • @warren6815
    @warren6815 3 года назад +1

    A good example of function over fashion. Having said that I think it's a fantastic bit of design. Very distinctive and unique, unlike the vast majority of cars on sale today. It's a shame manufacturers are unwilling to be this different nowadays.

  • @greenberlina
    @greenberlina 3 года назад

    A fair review there Mr Hubnut.
    The M5/Oldbury took you past the CarSosage workshop, where Mr Fuzz also has a Multipla 🤗
    (Coulda had a drive in the only UK registered 1.2 SL 5 door Arna while in the area, another time eh?)

  • @Rich-on6fe
    @Rich-on6fe 3 года назад

    I had one of those as a hire car in 2001. It looked like my car had become a taxi (from the rear in the dark), it was terrifying going round corners and the whole wiper situation was abysmal: dirty glass for my right eye to look through and feeling like the wiper was poking me in the left eye all the time. Lovely.

  • @andrewthompsonuk1
    @andrewthompsonuk1 3 года назад +2

    I always liked the crazy looks of the Multipla.. To me the revised version just spolt it. However I think that about all cars, the first version of the shape always looks better than a revised version after 20 years or so.

  • @peterriggall8409
    @peterriggall8409 3 года назад

    Very Hubnut. Great relaxed video as usual. Did not get these in Australia for some reason. Toyota Tarago seem to have the market sown up in that era.

  • @Jam3sA
    @Jam3sA 3 года назад +1

    I do love the changes occurring with Mr. Hubnut. What platform sharing "interesting" engines will fit in a Multipla? I do like the sound of a 5-pot. Multipla HGT?

  • @IanSlothieRolfe
    @IanSlothieRolfe 3 года назад +1

    I never had a Multipla but nearly did but instead bought the much derided Hyundai Matrix (a 2004 model if I recall) and found it to be a great little car despite the almost universal disdain it attracted. It was a little quirky looking, but not particularly so. It was also fantastically comfortable to drive, even filled with passengers. I wish I still had it sometimes.... If one comes your way its worth a look.

  • @portnaluinge
    @portnaluinge 3 года назад +5

    I never understood the controversy around these. It always struck me as an intelligent and genuinely innovative design. A mate had one at the time to ferry him, his missus and three young kids around, and it was a faultless family car. Mind you, I did love that opposition football fans in Italy took to singing “you’re as ugly as a Multipla” at Juventus supporters.

  • @robingray1302
    @robingray1302 3 года назад

    That's been a long time coming but well worth the wait for you and us too evidently, I always kinda knew you'd lie it !! Interestingly the original 600 Multipla (you'll HAVE to try one of those too...) didn't really disappear but morphed into the 600T and 850T commercials best know over here as the basis for the cutesy camper vans so coveted these days !

  • @garygriffiths2911
    @garygriffiths2911 3 года назад +3

    It's hard to imagine a more 'Marmite' vehicle - i.e a car that you either love or loathe. I happy to find myself in the 'love' camp. Unfortunately for Fiat almost everyone brought a Zafira instead and presumably chose not to think what might happen to their kids in the event of a rear end shunt ...

  • @xxrs2009
    @xxrs2009 3 года назад

    I'd like these as a workvan, lots of space and 3 people in the front. Thanks for the good review!

  • @stuartjones8238
    @stuartjones8238 3 года назад

    I drove one of these from Bristol to Cambridge (via M5, M6, A14) back in 2000 (and back again!!). It was a JTD version with 5 of us (and Luggage). I remember it being very competent, we weren't "squashed" (the front centre seat was in "table mode"!), able to maintain motorway speeds without too much effort and found driving dynamics very good; held its own when having to deal with a stiff side wind on the A14! From then on never had a problem with a Multipla.....function over form!! On a slightly different tack; I have one of those Pure DAB devices in my 15 year old Touran; a very easy way to add, DAB, DAB+, hands free, Bluetooth Audio, Spotify Control capabilities if your car doesn't have them, without a major re-wire or hacking the dash to pieces!!

  • @155andRising
    @155andRising 3 года назад

    I worked for a Fiat dealership in my 20s and first thing I thought was how much fun it would be to drop a 2.0 20V turbo from a Fiat Coupe into a Multipla. They even did a body kit for them in the accessory catalogue. Such a misunderstood car. The width meant it went round corners like a go-cart

  • @Grimwriggler
    @Grimwriggler 3 года назад +1

    Aha. A neighbour just bought the 1.9 jtd. 2002 i need to twist his arm for a test drive. You still see them around here in Spain

  • @timbre7999
    @timbre7999 3 года назад +1

    The Multiplay is a wonderful car and in that lovely blue quite attractive I think.
    Always loved that early Multipla wheel design; the best looking FIAT wheels of that era.

  • @seancooke7332
    @seancooke7332 3 года назад

    A thing of beauty, particularly when you overtook the Vauxhall Zafira Tourer. Love it.
    Bonus Mk6 Escort, Isuzu DMax and Dodge Kaliber no less. Value viewing on Hubnut.

  • @tonys1636
    @tonys1636 3 года назад +1

    The looks grew on one after a while when new, a local publican had one, very useful for ferrying inebriated customers home after a lock in (he was TT). If it had been built with a central driving position would have been very interesting and saved the expense of separate LH and RH drive models. Anyone having driven an Alvis Stalwart knows that it does not take long to get used to driving from the centre.

    • @kamrankhan-lj1ng
      @kamrankhan-lj1ng 3 года назад

      Oh yeah! I always wonder why they don't ever make cars with central steering column! Not even for the sake of novelty.

  • @DavidMorley
    @DavidMorley 3 года назад

    I had one for a while with my 3 young kids. Really not bad! When it rained the dash used to beep and flash warnings at me. Apart from that was reliable.

  • @samuraifool912
    @samuraifool912 3 года назад

    I like the look of that Hump on the Bonnet with lights fitted. Thats a Neat idea..!!
    Twin Sunroofs too..! Why Didn't that 'Take off' its magic.
    Even like the position of the Gear lever. A nice Short shift.
    Instrument Binicle is even unusual..!!
    But can't have one "Due to Triangle of Doom..!"
    Can't buy a Car with a 'Triangle of Doom.'
    Mr Hubnut will never forgive me..!!
    Great Review and Video Ian, thanks for the Entertainment.
    Cheers from Oz.😎

  • @timelwell7002
    @timelwell7002 3 года назад

    No air con? A real must for a car with such large windows. Good review, thanks Ian. I hope you an find one of these if that's what you want.

  • @Imacomingtoo
    @Imacomingtoo 3 года назад +1

    That's a much nicer car than the PT cruiser you borrowed recently personally I wouldn't mind one

  • @alansimpson835
    @alansimpson835 3 года назад +1

    A brilliant piece of distinctive design that is properly practical to boot! It definitely looked better pre facelift. I think one would be very happy on the Hubnut fleet

  • @robterry1663
    @robterry1663 3 года назад

    Enjoyed spotting the Black Country land marks in this vid, they include- Black Country Museum in Dudley, M5 J2 in Oldbury, Asda in Great Bridge and Brunswick Park car park in Wednesbury

  • @geoffwoodgate7450
    @geoffwoodgate7450 3 года назад

    Looked at this in 2000 but bought a Peugeot 806 instead. Big advantage of the Peugeot was sliding rear doors. Also very quiet and comfortable.

  • @mitchurchin2
    @mitchurchin2 11 месяцев назад

    My brother, me and my best pal all had a blue one at the same time with the Diesel engine. I picked mine up from Aberdeen and drove it to London. As a practical car it’s incredible, so much room, easy to drive, engine pulled well. However…the gearbox was a disaster on mine, Fiat stripped it, no clue. It ate 3 clutches in 3 years, but despite all this, we absolutely loved this car. I should also say, my brothers one was chipped to 150bhp, which meant it went rather well. My pals one gave up the ghost fairly quickly, but we all loved them.

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  • @daddygez
    @daddygez 3 года назад +3

    Loved my Hippo, Most comfortable people carrier I ever had. Shame they didn’t take the interior to a newer model. Only gripe was that windows didn’t go all the way down into the doors

  • @sbomorse
    @sbomorse 3 года назад

    The smaller mirrors aren't blind spot mirrors - they show the curb on either side! They're a brilliant design feature.

  • @kevmacca1905
    @kevmacca1905 3 года назад +1

    I'd say this is one of your better reviews, well done Ian 👏

  • @inindian
    @inindian 3 года назад +1

    That #UGLY sticker on the driver's side cowl of the small-van-within-a-car is an unwarranted apology to the great unwashed of motorists. #ODDBALL I would accept, but never ugly.

  • @Shane_Marsh
    @Shane_Marsh 3 года назад

    Great video Ian. The kids named our multipla Flipper, they said it looked like a dolfins face. Didn't Honda copy this ?

  • @alanlansdell7533
    @alanlansdell7533 3 года назад +7

    Is it a "margin of melancholy" when the wiper doesn't reach the edge of the screen?

    • @RWBHere
      @RWBHere 3 года назад +1

      Bingo! That's what I call it on our Renault.

    • @clivestainlesssteelwomble7665
      @clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 3 года назад

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      If they are on a spline reset it by a tooth or try an offset arm or blade mount. 😁

  • @hughwaddell5772
    @hughwaddell5772 3 года назад

    Thanks, Ian! You answered my wishes! To my request, for a request for a video, on the marvellous fiat multipla! I'm definitely one on the genius side! BUT he is, NO way ugly or horrible! He's very ingenuitive and funky and flipping hilarious!😂 One of the best mini mpv's to date! I'd say anyway! (Maybe a bit biast!😂)

  • @paultaylor9652
    @paultaylor9652 3 года назад

    I actually prefer the revamped model, still a good review of a car which most people would have totally forgotten about, well done Mr HubNut.

  • @ingopaul67
    @ingopaul67 3 года назад

    I remember really not liking these when it was new, I've mellowed; they are brilliantly practical, different and completely nuts.