great video just at a quick glance might want to resize your pool cover i have a much larger pool 12' deep i've found that if the solar cover can lay flat bubbles down it will keep my pool in the 80+F when i bought the place the cover fit like yours with alot of big ripples and it was high 60's low 70's just my experience
The rule for screwing is generally thin to thick. That is, screw through the plywood into the 2x4's. But, that is just a pointer for a job well done!!!
You notice any issues thus far with the metal couplings in the hoses you've used? They will react with the chlorinated water running through them, but hopefully not enough to cause rapid wear. 🤞 I'm in the process of building a solar pool heater too. I have my sights on poly line and compression couplings. I like your submersible pump idea, I'm definitely leaning that way over finagling with the addition of a multi-line heating setup into the pool's original circuit. Simplifies things, easier time with adapters, plus a redundancy with the second pump! 👍 Your setup is sweet! If I end up with something like it and it works with minor TLC for 3-4 years, I'll be quite satisfied. ❤
I notice some minor corrosion but during the off season, I try to stay on top of it by cleaning it with a wire brush and putting petroleum jelly. I also unscrew it once a month to make sure the couplings dont get stuck. The hose it'self is going strong
Curious how well the garden hose has held up to the chlorination. Considered using Pex, but have read where it can break down with chlorine pool applications. Also considered using soft copper, but read where you could be introducing too much copper chloride into the water. So that leads me back to using a garden hose and also whether the time and effort is really producing good results. In the past I've used solar covers on our pool. I'll admit, these covers work well. But the last one I bought $175 only last me 2 yrs. All the bubbles started to pop and created a huge mess in the pool. So now been looking for alternative and inexpensive way to heat up the pool.
I have a salt water pool so it is a bit more gentle. So far it's only been 1 year and it has held up. I did seriously consider pex piping but went with this. I would spray on a clear coat spray paint in a can to increase UV resistance on the outside of the tubing. The system is staying outside so I will also rate how well it survives winter. I will do a 2 year review once I hit the 2 year mark.
I love the idea! After you've gone through 3 months, how did the hose hold up? My idea is to put the hose on spools where I can move them a bit in September as the sun changes directions. We have shade on the pool until almost noon and it has not much chance to get warmed up. There is sunshine all around the pool, so need something to get that sunshine in the pool. South Carolina has been a bit cool this season, which didn't help. Solar blanket and solar pump is a must have for next season. Thank you for letting us know about the hose, it sounds perfect! An end of year review on the hose would be much appreciated.
So far, the hoses have held up. There are no signs of any breakdown. I have added another 50 ft of hose because this system has been very effective. I think the weakest link is the wood which will breakdown faster with wet weather. I will wait a year for a follow up.
Thank you for making such a well put together video. Question: do you think this would be a more efficient system if I used a black metal roofing panel instead of plywood?
I have been wanting to try something like this here in Michigan and put the panels up on the roof of our pool house. Our pool is 30000 gallons though. I wonder if this puts extra strain on the pool pump at all? Also I wonder if you put a panel of clear plexiglass on the top if each wood panel, it it would help trap even more heat like a greenhouse?
There might be a little bit of extra work for the pool pump, but if it's sized right, you should be fine. Glass on top will help to keep the heat in longer, but I had trouble finding some locally, which is why I didn't use it in the video. You will need maybe at least 3 to 4 of the panels my size in order to feel the difference. Also, having a pool solar cover will help retain the heat you gain and prevent it from being lost too fast at night. Also, having it in full sun all day is key for this to work. The longer the sunlight, the better this works.
What submersible pump are you using? I saw another video where the person said their submersible pump got all messed up due to the chlorine. I also have a saltwater pool, plus I am thinking the external pump would help decouple it from the actual pool pump (since I wouldn't necessarily run the solar on the same schedule as I run my pool pump) so just want to make sure I get one that wouldn't be harmed with the pool water.
I got the Superior Pump 91014 1/4 HP High Flow Thermoplastic Utility Pump It still works but only been two years. I since made an upgrade to where I did the hook up to the pvp pipe directly using the zodiac elbow sweep. I hooked up a .5 inch spigot to my and hook it into my hose attached to the solar panel.
Ok, so are you saying the elbow allows you to connect the return line from the solar panel to your main plumbing that returns to the pool? If so, I was wondering if there was a way to do that, or if it would cool down too much before returning to the pool. This Sounds like a good idea for a video update to visualize this part of the system. 😉 Thanks for your help and insight!
Other way around. The elbow is connect to the pipe after the filter. It then goes to the panel, through all the tubing to warn up and then I to the pool. Great idea about the video, I will post one about it next.
You could put down roofing tar paper on The wood. Are Metal Roofing Panel Then add the hose That should help heat the bottom of the hose too. It might help make the water a little warmer
I'm in GA. I do use this over the fall and it does work. It won't work as well once the air temps consistently stay below 65 degrees. You lose way too much heat for the the solar to keep up with.
Gardener's tip - large pools make for excellent thermal buffers. The area right around your pool will stay slightly cooler in the heat, and slightly warmer in the cold.
Nice video filled with good tips & trix. I didn't understand if you are running the pool pump 24/7, because that heater will acctually decrease the temperature alot if it runs during night time. I'm setting up a solar powered pool heater right now and my goal is 30°C / 86°F in the pool. I'm starting with 250 meters / 820 feet of 20 mm / ¾ inch PEM hose in a flat rooftop setup. A 20V rainwater barrel pump (2,000 liters - 528 gallons / hour) will be connected directly to a solar panel, so it's a completely automatic system controlled and powered by the sun. No sun = no pump = no heating. Since I'm located at 60° latitude in the northern hemisphere, I'll guess it'll be some problems and math to solve along the way, but it'll be fun. I've spent 250 USD for the hose, 50 USD for the pump and 50 USD for the solar panel. If it works, I'll have a pool heater for a total of 350 USD that doesn't require any manuel labour and it'll run for free. You can follow this project and more on my new channel. Keep up your good work
You should be able to use a t connector or alternative a y connector to the return hose going into the pool eye. The pressure from the return hose. Should push the water into the solar heater. Just did mine last week. We have a Haywood pump and filter
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great video just at a quick glance might want to resize your pool cover i have a much larger pool 12' deep i've found that if the solar cover can lay flat bubbles down it will keep my pool in the 80+F when i bought the place the cover fit like yours with alot of big ripples and it was high 60's low 70's just my experience
also might want to stake the hose along the pool desk to force contact to the pool deck as it is a giant heat sink you can rob heat from also
Very cool Rob. So when are you starting your own business of installing these 🤔😁
Fantastic video! 2 quick questions. How many gallons is your pool and what was your total expense? Thanks!
10000 gallons and total for the hoses was 250 dollars, wood and paint about another 100. This is an estimate.
Thanks so much for your quick response!
The rule for screwing is generally thin to thick. That is, screw through the plywood into the 2x4's. But, that is just a pointer for a job well done!!!
Awesome dude. This is real engineering!
Another great vid. For the rest of the world 90 F = 32.2 C. That is hot.
Great video and set-up. Does the water continue to run through the filter from the pump and if so do you lose a lot of pressure?
I made an update video on this and it's tied to the pump itself. I don't lose any pressure or at least it's barely noticeable
Congrats on the pool 👍
You notice any issues thus far with the metal couplings in the hoses you've used? They will react with the chlorinated water running through them, but hopefully not enough to cause rapid wear. 🤞
I'm in the process of building a solar pool heater too. I have my sights on poly line and compression couplings. I like your submersible pump idea, I'm definitely leaning that way over finagling with the addition of a multi-line heating setup into the pool's original circuit. Simplifies things, easier time with adapters, plus a redundancy with the second pump! 👍
Your setup is sweet! If I end up with something like it and it works with minor TLC for 3-4 years, I'll be quite satisfied. ❤
I notice some minor corrosion but during the off season, I try to stay on top of it by cleaning it with a wire brush and putting petroleum jelly. I also unscrew it once a month to make sure the couplings dont get stuck. The hose it'self is going strong
@TheALG nice! That seems pretty reasonable. Thank you for the quick response and for the video itself
Curious how well the garden hose has held up to the chlorination. Considered using Pex, but have read where it can break down with chlorine pool applications. Also considered using soft copper, but read where you could be introducing too much copper chloride into the water. So that leads me back to using a garden hose and also whether the time and effort is really producing good results. In the past I've used solar covers on our pool. I'll admit, these covers work well. But the last one I bought $175 only last me 2 yrs. All the bubbles started to pop and created a huge mess in the pool. So now been looking for alternative and inexpensive way to heat up the pool.
I have a salt water pool so it is a bit more gentle. So far it's only been 1 year and it has held up. I did seriously consider pex piping but went with this. I would spray on a clear coat spray paint in a can to increase UV resistance on the outside of the tubing. The system is staying outside so I will also rate how well it survives winter. I will do a 2 year review once I hit the 2 year mark.
Very cool
Excellent
I love the idea! After you've gone through 3 months, how did the hose hold up? My idea is to put the hose on spools where I can move them a bit in September as the sun changes directions. We have shade on the pool until almost noon and it has not much chance to get warmed up. There is sunshine all around the pool, so need something to get that sunshine in the pool. South Carolina has been a bit cool this season, which didn't help. Solar blanket and solar pump is a must have for next season. Thank you for letting us know about the hose, it sounds perfect! An end of year review on the hose would be much appreciated.
So far, the hoses have held up. There are no signs of any breakdown. I have added another 50 ft of hose because this system has been very effective. I think the weakest link is the wood which will breakdown faster with wet weather. I will wait a year for a follow up.
Thank you for making such a well put together video. Question: do you think this would be a more efficient system if I used a black metal roofing panel instead of plywood?
I will work. The only issue you will have is metal retains cold more easily than wood. Should not be much of an issue if you constantly have full sun.
How big was the panel? Is it a 36x36? I’d like to thank you for such an AMAZING video. Very creative thing.
48x48
I have been wanting to try something like this here in Michigan and put the panels up on the roof of our pool house. Our pool is 30000 gallons though. I wonder if this puts extra strain on the pool pump at all? Also I wonder if you put a panel of clear plexiglass on the top if each wood panel, it it would help trap even more heat like a greenhouse?
There might be a little bit of extra work for the pool pump, but if it's sized right, you should be fine. Glass on top will help to keep the heat in longer, but I had trouble finding some locally, which is why I didn't use it in the video. You will need maybe at least 3 to 4 of the panels my size in order to feel the difference. Also, having a pool solar cover will help retain the heat you gain and prevent it from being lost too fast at night. Also, having it in full sun all day is key for this to work. The longer the sunlight, the better this works.
What submersible pump are you using? I saw another video where the person said their submersible pump got all messed up due to the chlorine. I also have a saltwater pool, plus I am thinking the external pump would help decouple it from the actual pool pump (since I wouldn't necessarily run the solar on the same schedule as I run my pool pump) so just want to make sure I get one that wouldn't be harmed with the pool water.
I got the Superior Pump 91014 1/4 HP High Flow Thermoplastic Utility Pump
It still works but only been two years. I since made an upgrade to where I did the hook up to the pvp pipe directly using the zodiac elbow sweep. I hooked up a .5 inch spigot to my and hook it into my hose attached to the solar panel.
Ok, so are you saying the elbow allows you to connect the return line from the solar panel to your main plumbing that returns to the pool? If so, I was wondering if there was a way to do that, or if it would cool down too much before returning to the pool. This Sounds like a good idea for a video update to visualize this part of the system. 😉 Thanks for your help and insight!
Other way around. The elbow is connect to the pipe after the filter. It then goes to the panel, through all the tubing to warn up and then I to the pool. Great idea about the video, I will post one about it next.
You could put down roofing tar paper on The wood. Are Metal Roofing Panel Then add the hose That should help heat the bottom of the hose too. It might help make the water a little warmer
Do you use this over the fall/winter where you're at?
I'm in GA. I do use this over the fall and it does work. It won't work as well once the air temps consistently stay below 65 degrees. You lose way too much heat for the the solar to keep up with.
Gardener's tip - large pools make for excellent thermal buffers. The area right around your pool will stay slightly cooler in the heat, and slightly warmer in the cold.
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Nice video filled with good tips & trix. I didn't understand if you are running the pool pump 24/7, because that heater will acctually decrease the temperature alot if it runs during night time.
I'm setting up a solar powered pool heater right now and my goal is 30°C / 86°F in the pool. I'm starting with 250 meters / 820 feet of 20 mm / ¾ inch PEM hose in a flat rooftop setup. A 20V rainwater barrel pump (2,000 liters - 528 gallons / hour) will be connected directly to a solar panel, so it's a completely automatic system controlled and powered by the sun.
No sun = no pump = no heating.
Since I'm located at 60° latitude in the northern hemisphere, I'll guess it'll be some problems and math to solve along the way, but it'll be fun.
I've spent 250 USD for the hose, 50 USD for the pump and 50 USD for the solar panel. If it works, I'll have a pool heater for a total of 350 USD that doesn't require any manuel labour and it'll run for free. You can follow this project and more on my new channel.
Keep up your good work
The pool pump runs independently. The solar heater is only active when there is sun.
@@TheALG Good choice
Poo pump lol
Thanks for sharing.
Also what’s that red hose called? Thanks in advance for this
The red hose is your standard washing machine hose on the hot water side.
Thanks for the tip, how can I connect the system in a pool pump?
That will be tricky, I am currently trying a few things but as of right now, it's not possible. External submersible pump is the way to go.
You should be able to use a t connector or alternative a y connector to the return hose going into the pool eye. The pressure from the return hose. Should push the water into the solar heater. Just did mine last week. We have a Haywood pump and filter
Nice build, how is it holding up?
Still running about 6 hours a day
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