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When I was a kid, I got this book about dragons (I was in love with dragons as a kid) and spent so much time reading it. It took me f a r too long to realize it was actually a book associated with DnD. Wish I had known then, I would have gotten into it at a much younger age.
Was it A practical guide to dragons
I think I know the book you are talking about. It was a 2nd edition D&D book, Dragon Isles I think it was called. It had rules for the Metallic, Chromatic and Gem dragons. I wish I still had the book but someone stole it.
@@immystery3946 i was thinking about finding that exact book. My parents got it for me as a gift years ago, and I realized just yesterday how similar the depictions of dragons were in that book when compared to the Monster Manual. Is it legitimately DnD related?
@@PhoenicopterusR it is, my uncle works for wizards of the coast so I have all the practical guides except the practical guide to dragons ironically, there are 7 total I think, one on Vampires, wizards, Faeries, Monsters, dragons, and dragon-riding, they also have dragon Codexs
Fuckin’ SAME dude.
(Actual interaction between my party and a Bronze Dragon)
Bronze Dragon: "The man commited a crime. Punishing is the correct thing to do, no matter what his intentions were"
Neutral Good Bard: "Just because you are correct does not mean you are right"
Bronze Dragon does not compute.
Oi! I KNOW THIS REFERENCE!
@@lochlainnhealy548 Thank you Captain Australia.
@@V0idedOut-E33 is that a scanlan reference.
@@tigergamer998 Wasn't what I was going for but fuck it I guess that's what I hit.
Bronze Dragons save people as adventurers
So you're saying I can play as a Bronze Dragon that never reveals hinself?
I have always wanted to play a Halfling Paladin, who is secretly a Bronze Dragon and never reveals It to the group.
I mean it's D&D, if your DM okays it and you both work out a way where it's still fun to the rest of the players, go for it.
Patrick Buckley just don’t ever tell anyone, just stop small hints that no one would look into.
Remember a bronze will not kill anyone to the best of it's ability if you do.
@@Blitzwaffen wizard with no damaging spells, only buffs, debuffs, and walls
Dragons: *have dark vision*
Dragonborns: *don’t have dark vision*
No wonder they were slaves in the other universe
yeah in our sessions dragon born all have dark vision. What a dumb oversight.
@@JTheTeach you realize dragonborns are not descendents of dragons ?
they probably have been made by them but they're not halfdragons or something
@@gantzplayer.n.m4410 You realize that in every edition besides 5e they have darkvision, right?
@@TheRavenofSin
was it an oversight? or intentional?
In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king...especially if they're already a DRAGON!
Weird how the aquatic one is the one that doesn’t have manta ray wings
Yeah it's really dumb actually
it does have little membranes from its elbow/knee joint to the stomach and side. the multiple areas with the addition of an unrestricted tail (you will notice the wings end right before the tail) along with the spine along it would allow for fast, agile and accurate movement in the water without hindering flight
Since the dragon likely uses its wings as fins it would be a hinderence to have wings like a manta ray. It would be aesthetically correct, but more bat-like/traditional wings would allow it to swim much faster because it has more freedom of movement with its wings, it can put them forwards to forcw water back as it pushes along while only using its webbed feet for turning or when it doesnt need to cross a largw amount of water quickly. A common manta ray shape would force it to almost rely on ots legs and tail for movement on top of steering, and it would make the dragon much much slower
@@marinetoast88 that said the manta ray shape would allow for less effort in long travel at the cost of speed and agility in the water.
Shutup you skyrim pleb
A bronze dragon sorcerer (non-dragonborn) who is chaotic (good or neutral), who’s searching for his ancestor. They are both disappointed when they meet.
I'm playing a Bronze Dragonborn Storm Sorcerer right now who is looking for the last Bronze Dragon in the world (friend's homebrew campaign), and I feel like that's exactly how it will go.
@@TheKirbyT If you even find it as it seems bronze dragons never shiw their draconic form to non dragons. Though seeing a humanoid lounging in a treasure room filled with aquatic shit would be a dead giveaway..
My sorceress did...
It started with a fight. She nearly drowned in his blood after the fighter critted with a javelin. She became a Half-Dragon after marinating in his blood while the party made several strength checks in order to move the dragon carcass pinning her body in the pool of blood she's drowning in. The Cleric almost got blasted by her new breath weapon when she woke up in a panic. And the bard failed a Dex save and was tripped by a flailing tail. And that was how our party saved a town from a dragon's tyrannical rule and how my sorceress went from a Chaotic Good Human to Lawful Good Bronze Half-Dragon. Unfortunately she didn't soak long enough to gain wings so I still had to wait to gain more levels in sorcerer for those.
As the dm I would allow this.
Dragonborn stats(looks like what ever)
No reveling your self put side a single dying breath weapon shot.
This makes a bronze dragonborn paladin of law a really logical choice for a player character.
Zrin can you even make a bronze dragon player character?
Yeah, but also really boring. What about a N/CN/CG/NG half-elf/orc that grew up in a secluded, self-sufficient monastic society, sorta like a present day native reserve.
Wanderlust leads to them Persuing the travelers life associated with a paladin, but indecisiveness leads to the vengeance oath, as it allows the greatest freedom and independence of the vanilla three.
Edit: forgot alignments
@@Dell-ol6hb If the DM allows it, I'd go for a human sorcerer that "is a really good swimmer" have the reveal as a surprise or something
@@The_Arisen How does pairing a certain race with a class/subclass make it boring? I could copy and paste that backstory and replace the orc with a dragonborn and it would be just fine.
Nah, Murderhobos are the only interesting characters. :P
Taking notes for a Dragonhunter Ranger
Bronze:
-Easiest found on pirate ships (otherwise look for spies on other ships)
-Tease beggars, no name civilians and animals with gold coins and other golden things and check for special reactions
-"Corruptible" in the sense of making them lose their hope in humanoid kind. Unclear if they would drop their Ethics for Gold
That's a quick way to have dragons use their dragon connections to request for aid, bronze dragons are especially well known for swarming dragon hunters
@@GodActio wait they aren't afraid of calling for Dragon back up and jumping people?
Sounds like an asshole with extra steps.
@@CombatSportsNerd welcome to the pearls beach humans . I see more than 30 of you guys so you don't mind if I called my boyz for the beatdown .... cool see you at sunset you'll get all the smoke after we're done with you... unless you guys are pussys and just fuck off my beach
This is waht I think the dragon does naw when meeting dragon hunters lol
@@CombatSportsNerd 4 bronze dragons jump the party for thinking they are whit the dragon hunters
Naw that's a nice way to give the party PTSD 🤣🤣
The Snow White Beggar and the 7 Metallic Dragons
Weirdly adorable lore. MM p. 103
The chief deity of the metallic
dragons is Bahamut, the Platinum Dragon. He dwells in
the Seven Heavens of Mount Celestia, but often wanders
the Material Plane in the magical guise of a venerable
human male in peasant robes. In this form, he is usually
accompanied by seven golden canaries- actually seven
ancient gold dragons in polymorphed form.
i just picture one picking up an adventurer who was fighting the dragon for its gold it flies out of its lair aways, dumps them onto a stranded island saying, "Now think about what you've done" and just leaves.
It would be even funnier if he also threw a rope with him and goes: if you're bored you can just end it ... if you are a coward
I'm currently roleplaying a Half-Elf draconic-origin sorcerer who used to be a Bronze Dragon 100s of years before meeting the rest of my party but "sinned" in a way so that one of the dragon Gods cursed him by forcing him to turn into a Half-Elf until he learned the error of his ways, only then could he turn back into what he once was.
The only issue is that he has absolutely zero knowledge of what he once was, but me and my dm agreed that he would gain more memories of his past life as he leveled up and his personality would slowly alter to that as a bronze dragon with each level.
And that is why I'm really glad this video was released, I swear this makes researching bronze dragons 10000000x easier.
So do dragons ever break the mold of their personalities or are they doomed to the role of their colors? Are they conscious of their colors and personality correlation? If so, do some ever purposely go against their own personality traits for the sake of breaking the stereotype?
They can act against their stereotypes, but these proclivities are essentially genetic.
I believe there was at least one good red dragon in forgotten realms. It was raised by some magic user against his normal upbringing. Most dragons are raised by their parents from decades to hundreds of years. That is some intense conditioning. If a dragon could be raised outside of that or maybe encounter some deep existential epiphany then it could definitely act different.
I assume it's probably partially genetic, partially cosmic influence, and a lot of culture, like how orcs are generally chaotic evil because Gruumsh made them to be that way and constantly pushes them towards it.
Shrek Hentai orcs actually can’t be good accosting to more becsuser grumesh can literally control them and is constantly in their head
Half orcs can be he doesn’t have the same influence over them
Generally, all intelligent creature can defy the stated alignments. It's actually stated in 3.5 that you can have even have situations with good demons or devils, it's just so incredibly rare that even those actively seeking them are unlikely to find them.
It honestly sounds like they are more lawful neutral than lawful good
Nah, they are on the lawful stupid extreme of lawful good...your standard fundamentalist troupe: tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheFundamentalist
...or even the principles zealot troupe:
tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PrinciplesZealot
More like lawful douchebag
Ya know, ever since you began covering Metallic Dragons and exposing some of their worse traits, I realized tha Metallic Dragons would work wonders as Paladin PCs. Bronze Dragons would work specially well for this concept.
Let's use that last scenario of yours as an example. After wiping out an entire city over it's for their differing takes on justice, Bahamut (who'd probably abhor such an act of violence, given his nature) would punish the Bronze Dragon by permanently polymorphing into a human paladin, without any of dragonic traits (i.e breath weapon), until he sees the error of his ways (which considering the Bronze's unflinching nature to their justice, would likely take an entire campaign to happen).
There is sooooooo much roleplay potential to this. There are plently of ways the Bronze Dragon could react to the event all in itself. And then once he started travelling with a party (since this is a PC we're talking about), the conflicts the dragon would get himself into over it's way of justice compared to the party would be plenty interesting. The best part is that the DM wouldn't even have to worry about having a true dragon tag along with the party and trivialize encounters, since he'd be stuck as a normal paladin without any of the perks of being a dragon.
My ramblings about roleplay potential aside, love this video. I cannot wait to hear what you have to say about Gold and Silver dragons in particular, since they (specially the former) are considered the paragons of metallic dragons.
And at the end of the campaign when he gets over that 'more lawful than good' thing there is this Beauty and the Beast moment when he is turned back into his true form
@@coolgreenbug7551and kisses the frogman
Between these and the Steel Dragons (and whatever other kind likes to polymorph) I kind of want to see a campaign where the whole party is secretly dragons, but none of them know it about the others, and there's a tense subplot going on to find out who can go the longest without being "outed".
Oh my god, this gives me a great idea for my next player character! (If the DM allows)
A lawful good paladin that is actually a bronze dragon in disguise.
He'd gain his paladinic abilities from his own Draconic power. Like divine smight would be lightning aspected.
And rather than sticking to an oath per see, it sticks to his own lawful interpretation of Good.
He would gain levels like a normal character, but rather than his actual power, it is just him getting used to his polymorphed form.
Subtle clues could give it away to the other players in the group, like insisting on fish or shark fin soup at an inn or refusing Gold for quests (Even though he really wants it) and ending up having to plead with the party members to buy a new set of armor.
This could be so great! :DD
A little OP, but it can’t hurt to ask!
If I were the DM, I would love to give the character a constraint that they may revert once. With control. Then the character must leave to a greater calling, like a sad farewell. Dnd doesn't need to be fair, as long as it works and is awesome.
@@daniellin1726: That would be interesting. If the party is ever going to be defeated, or of the paladin is reduced to 0 HP or in any situation where they might normally die or the party is obviously going to lose, then they could be forced to change in order to keep everyone alive. Since the party will then know their origin, they choose to leave (being under the DM's control now). The player could then roll up a new character (or already have one ready).
@@littleglassfoxcreations6153 not really it will just have Paladin powers unless he transforms
Bahamut is a LG dragon god. If required, he'd make for a good patron.
Alternate train of thought: The dragon doesn't reward people for doing the right thing because that is what is expected.
That honestly makes Bronze dragons sound like the most HUMBLE of the lot, if they were more egotistical they'd live to be showered with praise.
These videos make me even more excited about playing dnd, because I get to learn things I dont have personal access to. Thank you for doing these! I love your videos
Rhexx, man, you've made my day again. I never do this, really, but I would like to take the time here to thank you for these videos; they're all amazing. I'm Venezuelan and have been far from home the last three years, far from friends and family. I haven't played D&D or Skyrim (or much of anything, really) in a while and have been so inmersed in work and other responsibilities that I haven't actually found much time for enternaiment. I don't intent to whine about the situation my country is going through or about my personal problems, but I honestly have had little joys in the last three years. Your videos always cheer me up: you're an amazing storyteller, and the content is amazingly enjoyable. Keep them comming and keep up the good work! Thanks again!
Es horrible lo que ocurre en Venezuela, tengo amigos de allá que han tenido que salir para escapar la desesperante situación. Espero este mensaje te encuentre con bien, mi estimado. Te mando un muy calido saludo.
17:09 MrRex: Even if it's not an evil type of tyrany, it is still tyrany.
Me: That's even worse!
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"Of all tyranys, a tyrany sincerely exercised for the good of it's victims may be the most oppressive."
-CS Luis
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And that's what older bronze dragons are: benevolent tyrants.
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(I could see myself playing as a lawfull good paladin, who wants to bring a tyranical bronze dragon to the same type of justice it enforces on everyone else; seeing the dragon's athority as illigitimate, and his justice as vigualate crime.)
CS Luis is the Mexican version of CS Lewis?
I love D&D. I love it’s lore, I love the game itself, I love shows about it (like critical role). I unfortunately have only gotten to play it once in my life. My family been busy and I don’t have friends to play D&D. Much sad, I am. I’ll find some people to play with eventually.
I can relate with that 😔
Right there with you!
Loved this. Second favorite dragon after Silver.
Bronze dragon finds a group of murder hobos, decides to lure them to a brass dragon so it can trap them and talk to them, making the brass dragon happy and eliminating the threat of the murder hobos
I wrote up a Bronze Dragon trapped in the form of a Triton as punishment for their overzealous justice.They are a Draconic Sorcerer with the goal of finding a way to regain their draconic power but are starting to mellow to the whole "Overzealous Justice" thing.
These are definitely my favorite dragons.
It would be interesting to see one of those 'tyrannical bronze dragons' dealing with a paladin who disagrees with him.
Unlike what a lot of people think, if a paladin gets in conflict between the 'lawful' and 'good' aspects of his alignment they will prioritize the 'good' part, that means that if an evil ruler orders a paladin to hurt an innocent the paladin can refuse without violating his oath of obeying legitimate rulers
8:15 Impressive picture of a real life dragon egg. I was mistaken and thought this was all lore from a fictional game. Dammit, now I've got polymorphed dragons to be paranoid about in my day to day life.
I already imagine one guy making or being in a campaign about defeating a tyrannical bronze dragon gone mad.
So, my party will hopefully NEVER encounter a bronze dragon, that would be a nightmare, we have all done *something* morally in a gray area, bronze dragons don’t have gray areas. That would be bad
I'm so glad there's another channel out there that does DEEP lore for DND stuff. Watching your lore videos about stuff from LONG since past that I've never heard about, such as the video on spells past 9th level, is so fascinating and eye opening. I'm glad you're taking the time to go through the dragons, and I'm eager to hear what you find on Silver Dragons, my favorite type. Keep it up.
To a bronze dragon, a good deed is its own reward... And a bad deed cannot be left unpunished.
My dream of an awesome noble dragon hero... shattering before my very eyes.
Not really. You can still have your noble and heroic bronze dragons, their flaws just make them more complete characters, being the "jerk paladins" of Dragonkind, still noble and heroic when it comes to intention, but the way they go about it is where the problem arises. In a way, one's flaws are what make them more complete characters.
I could see a late level boss being a Bronze Dragon who has become so lawful that the good has dwindled and evil has seeped in.
That's cool as hell, they are like dragon superheroes.
So bronze dragons are to gold the way I am to sex, got it.
I'm not sure what that thumbnail is from, but the fact that the two dragons clearly form the contour of a heart shape, combined with the title of this video, is endlessly entertaining.
truly the best way to test someone's good will, is to not reward them back, and watch from a distance to see how they respond to getting nothing from their good will
Love it. I just began an island adventure wherein a bronze dragon reigns over a ancient and magical port of call-island. It triggered my imagination and gave me new ideas on how the local population sees the dragon and how the players will interact with her.
Thanks. A lot.
Please do the red dragon next! Its my favourite dragon. I have the book of dragons from the 3.5 ed and I've been learning a lot about dragons. Please keep it up!
Mother of Dragons I personally want the red to be the finale because it is the most common big bad.
NO! >:(
I want the Green one next!
Nilus I want silver next, they are my fav metallic dragon
I'm pretty sure he's doing them by alphabetical order
Yeah the draconomicon is pretty badass.
dragons are the most mystical and beautiful beings ever
Now I imagine a bronze dragon becoming a grapple master with all of the various grapple related feats. Just carry around rope all the time and pin people they don't like, leave bandits tied up along the side of a road.
Batman?
All sweet rolls are safe when Bronze Dragons are the judge and jury...
the more I watch these the more I notice they are like 1+ years old lol. But ur style of video is so timeless its the perfect lore binge!
I found this to be really interesting, especially since I have a Bronze Dragon who acts as a King in my campaign. And he sent his son to look over a series of colonies to essentially rule over. Now that I know the more dark side of Bronze Dragons, I need to rewrite his personality a bit before I players meet him in a few sessions.
So let's get this straight. It does no harm in battle but doesn't mind leaving pirates stranded in the middle of the ocean to die from starvation and dehydration. Wow cruel. No wonder your a warmachine
Coming back to this video after 3 months and I have a thought now after the law excerpt. What if a Silver Dragon was in the town when a Bronze Dragon was about to enact its justice. Would the two dragons battle?
I personally do not see why not. Though there might be an argument first beforehand.
As far as I am aware of, just because Metallic dragons are Good, does not mean they need to like each other.
Bronze Dragons Ruthlessly apply the letter of the law with a callous disregard for the spirit or intent of the law.
I love this. Law can quickly become a slippery moral slope.
Love your videos
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Man, That's the ultimate punish for a murderhobo party. A bronze dragon polymorphed as a beggar widow.
I would argue Bronce Dragons dont reward good people help because...good people should not expect anything from helping others. Otherwise it might be a trade, or be incentivated by personal gain.
White can easily be mistaken for silver, fyi.
The trick is the sheen of their scales iirc, as well as their heads according to one of the other videos. In fact, a colorblind person can use both the shine and the head to identify which Dragon it is.
@@lordnul1708 The same can be said for bronze dragon.
@@zionthedragon8866 I was kinda speaking generally when it comes to dragons, hence why I mentioned their heads specifically. Just thought I'd clarify a bit.
@@lordnul1708 I know, and I was saying the same for all the dragons, as silver isn't Scot free from the same problems other metallics face.
I think the better description for the bronze dragons' personality is: "they like interacting with people but not with their true self"
My current wizard is the apprentice of a bronze dragon and does plenty work with the species by extension. A lot of what you said has made crazy sense and makes me wonder if our DM is using old lore books or if it's a surprising coincidence. Either way, love bronze dragons and love the video, keep up the good work!
Dear lord, old bronze dragons are basically konrad kurse, the nighthaughter
A video about half-dragons would be awesome, how both communities may see the couple and the offspring, and which dragon may prefer which humanoid race.
I read that coppers, brass, and bronze dragons tend to prefer gnomes, so maybe a bronze half-dragon gnome (probably the sonor daughter of my gnome artificer) who thanks to their electric powers, invents stuff like non-magical electricity and da vinci-like structures (like the submarine and tank).
introverted paladins :D love them
Justice and virtue are their own rewards.
"There is nothing quite as terrifying as a truly just man."
Literally the only D&D lore channel worth watching.
Bronze Dragon really sounding like they'd see one of those "Lawful Good" Paladins or from RPG stories (aka is actually Lawful Stupid or uses that alignment as a shield to do whatever they want) and go "This one gets it!"
Evil three headed bronze dragon.
Bronze Dragons, the Judge Dread / Inspector Javert from D & D.
I like the idea of secret Bronze Dragons keeping an eye on a town near their lairs. Could make for a fun secret society!
If you're gonna go through all the various types of dragon, I can't wait for my favourite prankster copper boys
Maybe they don't repay the good will to the specific person who helped said dragon polymorphed into a beggar but instead repay it to crews and caravans under attack by pirates and bandits. Perhaps they see us softskins as a collective over a collection of individuals and sees repaying the good to someone else as a reward for another's good deed.
My black dragonborn conquest paladin's sense of justice is very similar to that of a bronze dragon, not something I knew until I saw this video. When the party rolled into a town under the thumb of a tyrannical robber baron (who, despite his wickedness, was the legitimate ruler of this area and these people) and they arrived just as a hanging was being carried out. Some farmer had stolen food from the baron's cellars. My paladin, to the praise of the crowds and parties, cut him down after neatly dispatching the guards who impeded him. Then to the horror of the crowds and the party he proceeded to sever the farmer's right hand, cauterizing the wound with his blessed blade until the man passed out. This he proclaimed is the appropriate level of punishment for theft. Not a hanging. He then marched at the head of a slightly disturbed party right up to the baron's doorstep, proceeded to kill pretty much his entire household (any who resisted anyway) and dragged the baron into town and hung him for extortion, assault and rape; all of which were abuses he heaped on the folk he ruled. And then we left. It took a while for the party to get used to him but after a while they began to see things from his perspective.
Black dragons usually tend to be evil.
@@houseofm9700 My character was a dragonborn, not a dragon. While they appear in all the same hues as chromatic and metallic dragons they don't really follow the same patterns. Most dragonborn are good regardless of if they're metallic or chromatic. I was just commenting that, in retrospect, I kind of accidentally made him have a somewhat similar sense of justice to that of a bronze dragon, though he wasn't nearly as shy about killing, even if he never sought it out unless necessary.
@@ArcLightShock37 ohhh I see , but a dragon born is still part dragon but yea I get you.
I would've love to roleplay with such a character in one of my sessions. I am envious of you.
I hope you do Gold and Silver Dragon soon. this will be a total help on some back stories for me!
I had a funny idea for Brass Dragons allied with a country, they are given a place to converse with as many people they can or want, and if they don't hold them and move the line of people to converse with them they are rewarded with the finest furniture by the countries people.
This is kind of related to dragons but can you cover the dragonborn race
Yes this, dragonborn as a race were retconned into existence. In 3.5 dragonborn were other character races who were transformed by Bahamu. Where are the 5e dragonborn come from?
@@Nukestarmaster They crossed over from Abeir onto Toril during the Spellplague. When parts of both planets swapped each other. Maztica going to Abeir and the Dragonborn homeland going to Toril and swapping places. After Second Sundering and Maztica and other parts return to Toril, those Dragonborn who went to other parts of the world, like the Sword Coast, remained on Toril.
I have the entire 1st and 2nd edition and it’s nice to see something’s haven’t changed with this lawful dragon. Awesome video!
3:21 so basicialy a dragon version of mmo roleplayer
I love all the information you have given on the dragons so far, however I am truly looking forward to hearing everything you have to say on two dragons in particular; the white Dragon and the undead Dragon. Keep up the excellent work on such a fascinating subject... By the way you have a new subscriber because of this series.
Isn't Tyranny inherently evil?
Well I know what encounter I am going to run when the players get high enough level. A tyrannical bronze dragon over policing a city to their detriment and the party has to “convince” them to leave and since they cannot be reasoned with they have to defeat them
Keep the good work, I’ve been learning a lot with these, thank you.
Every DM from now: That beggar you kicked? Bronze dragon. That adventurous man who helped you help up? Bronze Dragon.
The monk at a run down coastal monastery? Bronze Dragon. That dog you played with! BRONZE DRAGON!!
This was REALLY interesting! And has given me quite a few ideas to help with a couple plot pieces in a current campaign. Many thanks!
This makes me want to make a bronze dragon that is stuck polymorphed as a human and is suffering from amnesia. It would make an interesting background and character.
Great video, this information is exactly what I needed!
In my custom world I have a coastal city which is ruled by a Bronze Dragon from the shadows, it leaves the politics and debates to a council, as it has no interest in such matters. It's subjects know about the dragon, or rather they know there is a dragon living nearby and offer it treasures in a annual event in exchange for it's protection.
The dragon sees the area as it's territory and would attack pirates and such regardless... but of course would never turn down such a generous offering, swooping in under the cover of night to take the riches to it's lair.
I currently started a new campaign within the same world, and to start things off I have the party fight Sahuagin on a stormbattered ship on the southern edges of the dragon's domain.
I was not aware Sahuagin are a Bronze's favourite humanoid food (since they taste like sharks) so things happily fell into place. I also haven't yet factored in the more tyrannical aspect of it's justice... perhaps i will do so at a later date. Also, I was unaware they would test people or rarely kill humans.. though that too makes sense.
I love it when I find new information that just fits perfectly within the story. Thanks!
imo it makes sense that bronze dragons don't reward those he tests for good of will. That way you perform the act of kindness out of the good of your heart, not for the 'karma lottery' that if you give to the right beggar magically good luck comes to you.
money isn't money isn't the cause of all evil. even in most games i doubt it is. it's more likely that if the dragon were to act on its desires to get more gold, it would have to interact with people and "be interacted on," as well as likely starting more interactions for it than not
All of this pretty much fits a bronze dragon NPC of mine: Vorashtalornakarr (Vorash for short), Guardian of the Dragonwood. All those who live within the Dragonwood do so only with her permission, and all those who would exploit her realm's bounty are encouraged to leave (those who don't take the first offer never get a second). She keeps watch on her realm either through scrying or travelling in disguise (I even took the time to write up her stat-block in squirrel form).
There is no justice without the truth and the balancing factor of compassion.
Can come in as adventurer and save people.... hmmmm now a bronze dragons adventuring party... seems like a great idea for my party to meet them :O
Yes more dragon stuff! Makes me so happy! Really helps me flesh out my homebrew dragon stand character who's main goal is to cause the extinction of dragons. Keep up the good work!
@GermanGamer7 a curse from tiamat and being taken advantage of by chromatics when he was innocent and trusting. It's a looong story 😅
Let's hope the GM is unaware of the vast network of connections that dragons have and pacts they have to deal with dragon hunters
Many dragons may turn a blind eye to one or two of their kind killed, but they absolutely put their information networks to use to gather intel about all known and new dragon hunters
Many never kill more than three dragons before the dragons call a moot and move together to squash the hunter
I kind of want to play or run a 1-shot, where you have to confront a tyranical bronze dragon.
It sounds like the Bronze Dragon thinks of the fashion that a dead enemy is one that cannot repent and change and turn towards good deeds.
Bronze Dragon uses its breath weapon: "FUS RO DAH!"
I'm not sure if it fits with the lore, but there was a time in-game (or in story?) when a bronze dragon asked my character to rub her belly during a conversation. This was a young adult (they changed the age categories at least once since then), and she wasn't like some glorified pet or anything.
In the Bronze Dragon's defense of testing people but not rewarding them is this, if one does good seeking reward is not doing it for the right reasons. Giving an opportunity for one to do good would be a gift in a sense.
I love the old art. I’ve haven’t played in 20 years and recognize more than half the art!
Hey, man! I wanna say thanks for the easy-to-understand D&D Forgotten Realms lore! Not too many do videos on it, and those who do aren't usually so in-depth! I love the videos and recommend my the sages in my groups to watch your videos! ALWAYS! You go, man!
being kind is its own reward. one shouldnt expect a reward for being kind. the Dragon is attempting to make right the wrongs, but itself doesnt think it needs to reward the good that goes on.
I love watching these lore videos. I have learned so much by watching these and just looking for the sources that has these. This is tough work, I have a hard time finding all this info on my own! Keep doing what you are doing.
Real selflessness is not expecting anything in return. That is probably what the dragon is looking for.
7:28 "See the Monster Manual doesn't tell you that..." Then how do we know? Can you cite your sources for information provided that was not from (any edition of) the Monster Manual? Not trying to be confrontational, just trying to be a better DM by finding as much source material as possible. Thanks!
Probably Draconomicon or an earlier edition of the monster manual
It’s interesting looking back at the actual lore of these creatures, because when I was in 2nd grade, I had a poster of all the D&D dragons and ended up writing a story with a Bronze dragon as the villain, and it was my first indication that I liked writing fantasy stories. I had no concept of D&D, and if only I’d known this info, I’d have characterized him way differently.
I think Bronze dragon's willingness to play the weaker person is their own way to test the morality of people. The more kindness they see, the more hope they have for the future of humankind in a possible hope that maybe one day, humans will stop trying to hunt down dragons. This is just one hypothesis but a different one than most
Bronze Dragons have been suffering from moral degredation since 3rd Edition (though only in Eberron back then); it's ironic that as "evil" races/monsters are being removed as a concept, the traditionally "good"-aligned dragons are becoming less so.
Having said that, though they are Lawful Good in alignment Bronze Dragons do have a stronger association with Law than with Good, as shown by the fact that in 3rd Edition they are given the Law spellcasting domain, but not the Good one.
Bronze dragon somehow ends up in the Magic the Gathering universe. Acquires White magic. *Justice Intensifies*
A bronze dragon is that person everyone try to avoid because they will snitch on you no matter what