ADATS: Surface-to-EVERYTHING missile
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- Can a close range SPAA fight tanks? In the 1980s, the US military was seriously considering this possibility. After all, around that time, there was a very intriguing and highly unusual project suggested by the Swiss defense company Oerlikon: a special Air Defense Anti-Tank System that used missiles and was equally effective against targets on the ground and in the air.
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"could track 8 targets at 25km"
Warthunder: 1 target at 10km take it or leave it
*cant follow said target at 5km because defensiv flying*
Track not engage.
literally cant even track anything now anymore for some reason
@@BKBCrAnK *Drops lock at 1km because invisible cloud*
Track not lock.
"did not live up to the clients expectations..." ...11.7
XD
what does that have to do with its br?
@@user-fe7bo5mm1oits really not that good at its br.
@@user-fe7bo5mm1o at 11.7 Russian have Pantsir - the most broken SPAA in the game, Germany have Flakrakrad - more effective than ADATS. You see the point, not mention about Swedish, and China also have better SPAA than USA
ADATS should be 11.3 and categorized as SPAA, making this same BR as Panthsir is a joke
Before the pantsir was added both th ADATS and 2S6 were the same BR and it was balanced. Then gaijin said the 2S6 was underperforming, (it wasn’t) added the pantsir, uptiered the ADATs, and nerfed the 2S6.
@@artemisthehunter8360 but remember, no russian bias
Least coping US main.
totally agree!
@@bernhardtbruzzel5 This doesn't make you look smart.
"could track 8 targets at 25km"
*in game lock 1 target at a max range of 6km
and if there any sign of cloud, forget to lock on... nvm if it is on 2km or 20m high.. impossible to lock on.
track not lock :)
Love how I gotta pay tank destroyer prices to play an AA.
Why does the ADATS have to have a higher than average cost? With CAS being the problem that it is the US and UK shouldn't have to suffer to spawn in their top spaa
Not only that but similar vehicles are at much lower BR with the Gepard and tunguska both being lower in br
because its essentially a light tank with extra steps
@@bear76009 for real, ADATS is only slighty better than Tunguska while being whole 1.0 BR higher.
@@ymroo8299 then why the ZSU-57 isn't categorized as Light Tank? I've never seen that thing fire at planes, always pushing the enemies first while recoil speed boosting.
"cause it has 900 mm pen missiles, that you cant use against anything"
they talk like its sso good in game yet it cant live up to 11.7 , has a higher br , and you cant even use it to complete your anti air vehicle tasks
It being the same BR as the Pantsir and costing more to spawn is kind of a joke
does this video mean there's a fix for the gunner optic coming on the american one? or is that still getting forgotten about, making the missiles useless above 59 degrees of elevation. the optic has -5/+90 degrees IRL so it can control the gun and the missiles. currently in game, it is locked to the gun at -5/+59 degrees. the missiles did finally get their +85 degrees elevation sometime ago, but that can only be obtained while in third person, and since the gunner optic can't see that high, you can't lock onto any aircraft as the gunner optic includes the IR tracker. i have not touched the ADATS in months cause the LAV-AD is simply better.
🤓🤚Furthermore actually they didnt test it on the MOWAG pirahna but actually on the shark variant where the swiss used an EBR turret and a gepard turret also, 2 other great ideas for spaa
@@J_v7101 not sure what this has to do with the ADATS
"tell us in comments"
*removes comments that are **-negative-*
ah, i see why Jingles dropped WT completely from his channel....
politic aside, he changed to WoT, maybe got more $$ from there
@@humyHumsyong nah jingles himself listed gaijin's handling of critics as why he stopped posting WT
your comment is still here aint it
@@patriotic-pandawow you're so smaaaarrrt
@@patriotic-panda whoa man watch out, we got captain obvious here
Pls reduce the Spawn point cost of ADATS!
It's a fun bit of malice from them, having it so the ADATS isn't classified as an SPAA so its spawncost is higher..... you really notice things like that, when you stop and look lol. it's why the 2S38's an SPAA that's classified as a "light tank", both so they can pretend its fair to have UAV/active scouting, and also so if you kill one with CAS, they can guaranteed just switch to a Strela M2 for ~70~ SP (it's also why it's an 11.3+ at 10.3.... it's so you can have it at top tier in lineup and have it get a spawn cost reduction as it's "fighting at a disadvantage (also this guarantees higher rewards as every easy kill is counted as punching above your weight)
Basement guy is speaking. I repeat basement guy is speaking.
"Anti-DAT-Sh*t" - TheRussianBadger
Too bad this shits the second worst top tier SPAA lmao
So is the OTOMATIC or the Type 81 C better than this?
@@koztac realistically type 81 by a long shot. effectively the same range since the adats missile loses all its momentum after about 5-6 km, except now you don't have to worry about triggering aircraft rwr
@@koztac Very hard to dodge 81Cs msls. They do not trigger RWR and its RCCM. Adats triggers ping but not launch warning. Its msls is only good below 5km and you detect stuff but you can't really tract them because you need to have LOS on target.
Range is too short bro. 😢 you said 25km in the video. Please let us have at least 15km of range…
the radar can see up to 20 or 25km in game (you need to set a keybind to toggle it), however the missiles only reach 10km
It's primary roll is Anti-Air. It should be designed as an SPAA and receive SPAA Spawn Points.
It's secondary roll is anti-tank for self protection.
it is because of that anti tank capability that it is listed as a tank destroyer, would be stupidly strong if it was an AA
@patrioticpanda7618 stupidly strong? It's 155 mm missile isn't even stable enough to hit proper shots against MBTs. It has the lowest range out of all top tier ground to air missile and loses momentum after 5 - 6 km. Pantsir s1 has the ability to spray and pray to an MBT and disable if not kill them, VT1 missile from germany can reliability overpressure MBTs. Wdym? Explain.
@@syrez156 you must not have the adats then
It could track 10 targets at once, not 8.
Dear snail why do you make me the most unluckiest man alive with losing matches all the time
I’m the second too
Bc u didnt pray to the snail 😡
@@DoUWaNTToExplODe-doctornefario I play and pray but still
Pray or pay? 😂
im the third.
The ADATS could track 10 targets singlehandedly but could also display an additional 10 tracked by other vehicles it was connected to. Too costly and too unreliable after the Soviets fell.
USA have 2x more aircraft tahan ussr.Superior in terms of quality and quantity . But ussr have 10x more AA vehicles than USA.And the United States rarely makes AA vehicles
This thing should not be 11.7. The SP cost needs to be reduced because you cannot use it when you need it to counter CAS.
Russian ATGMs have better range then this thing, that’s not very balanced
Hi bagel
Are you the Basement Guy?
Can't wait for Polarfuchs video on this
Polar isn’t real, smh
"effective spaa system" lmao warthunder delusional as always
Stares in TD spawn costs.
Funnily enough, I saw the Canadian ADATS in real life at the Canadian War Museum in Ottawa. I didn’t know what it was though as I was barely getting started with War Thunder.
stryker adats when? Gaijin.
"keep your radar turned off because they will fly low after seeing the rwr"
No they won't, they will spawn in ~20km away, launch their 30km and 40km range missiles, turn at about 11.5km and go back to airfield.
Making it virtually impossible to do anything about it.
the BR Decompression update was dissapointing. It didnt fix anything and unfairly uptiered craft that should've stayed at their BR. most notably the Drakken preem vix is at 11.3 instead of 10.7 despite having only rear aspect missiles.
effectively the queue has top tier jets still fighting the same stuff they already were.
Fun fact: the ADATS can also be mounted on a LAV
Some advice for those getting into the US top tier lineup, don’t waste your time getting this thing, the LAV-AD not only has a true SPAA SP cost, but honestly it’s better than the ADATS at both being anti tank and anti air.
The ADATS radar is pretty uselesss since it’s tracking radar isn’t in sync with the search radar, so you can only lock targets you visually see through your gunsight. The search radar only serves to tell you rough direction and distance, not altitude. It’s also not stabilized, making it more difficult to fight aircraft from cover. Unlike the LAV, you don’t have great mobility to be in unexpected places to combat aircraft either.
If you want a true AA, you should seek to use an actual aircraft. Being able to carry AIM-120s and undetectable AIM-9Ms makes it super easy to cancel all other aircraft by pressing two buttons.
Foz3 sp cost was resently increased soo gl getting cap if your getting hammered by cas
@@nikolaideianov5092 It’s still fairly easy to spawn, and even with only 9Ms you can get the job done.
Why is this the best USA spaa in game?
Because they hate the US as a Russian owned company.
Usa op in air, so you got to have some drawback for playing usa 😂
@@TeamValkyrie2023 USA has the second best CAS, behind russia, which also has the best SPAA.
@@creepincreepy261actually the Gripens are better than the F-16C when it comes to CAS, so the US is actually somewhere around 5th place when it comes to CAS
@@Iden_in_the_Rain The gripen is not better than the F-16C at cas lol
ADATS is cool and all but when’s the CWIS?
We kinda have it already (m163)
@@Hymid3782 Well I want the patriot system.
@@jj1brosky Patriot system cannot be modelled in-game unless they make changes to how top tier maps work.
I want to grind the US tech tree for three reasons:
1 I want to use the US version of the ADATS
2 I want to use the A6E
3 I want to use the A10 warthog
0:54 I'm pretty sure it's the MOWAG Shark that the ADATS turret was mounted to, not the Piranha.
the ADATS was my favourite tank as a kid and i just got it not to long ago it took me 1700 hours
I like how in real life it didn't live up to expectations just like in game
i miss the british narrator :(
How long before gaijin removes my comment as "political" 😂
That didn't take long at all. Basement guy is on his game today
Look up on RUclips why he's gone. Gaijin deleted my explanation
I understand gaijin, I'm sure you don't want any executives "accidentally" falling out of a top floor window
ADATS want’s to know your location
Can someone help me here, If I buy a tank ingame with gold eagles, does it come fully optioned?
Or is it just the basic and I then have to grind away at the upgrades?
Puzzled as to why WT doesnt state such things anywhere
Q: when will you do a full decompression of the game?
Would love for you to add the version that would’ve been mounted on an M1 Abrams chassis
Maybe they mean by tracking 8 targets at 25 km that the radar shows up to 8 flying targets at the same time at a distance of 25km
mid at best
Add the sky warden to the game. The crop duster converted into a strike aircraft
"ADATS : Anti DAT sh**" - Russian Badger
Gaijin at least give us the VAMTAC Rapid Ranger 4×4 air-defence vehicle or the Umkhonto missile system?
I have spent like 150 hrs in this game i hate myself for playing this but i cant stop i have to continue the grind.Other than that game is good.
Unrelated question why does warthunder not keep the Naval EC mode open?
If you’re not going to lower it’s br, then please give us US mains a new top tier spaa/sam system
Track 8? Are you joking me? Scan yes but not track,
Displaying the position of 8 targets simultaneously is tracking them
@@mattthesedg4238i can see more then 20 planes in the sky that means that the us half track with 4 50s sould have irst/s
I just realize the F105D in real life could Carrie and extern gas tank
I love the Bread-Li version
Gaijin make a coop with deabom
Mind doing a history lesson on the T54E1 and T54E2 US Heavies?
Can you pls make a swiss techtree in the future. Switzerland has more than enough vehicles to have its own techtree
Canadian tech tree when?!?!?! They would also get the legacy hornet
how this thing can play against russian agm from su25sm3??? tell me
Position is key, just use cover 😂
@@Donkeymaster9000 bro prolly sitting in the open in spawn looking at missile coming on his way
@@Juho-uf8siTry doing that on Kursk or other open maps
@@christopherchartier3017 trees are your friends
@@Donkeymaster9000 trees don’t really stop Kh-38’s too well
One of the worst AA in the whole game, it's time for the Patriot system to come along because you already have the Pantsir or make the rockets like they were in real life
AA and AT require completely different position and entrenchment in IRL so it would be useless anyway
Another reson for a Canadian tech tree! Month 1 of asking for canadian tech tree
Yes, please. So much interesting stuff they have.
day 1 of asking to remuve the repier costs on planes
pantsir s1 sends his regards
ADATs still can’t use its radar to sensor cue the targeting system and for some reason is still the highest tank destroyer in game.
It’s mid at best.
1:18 So can we get this in game seeing how War Thunder ads push for realism?
Shitty spaa priced as a TD at the same tier as the pantsir which has more missiles, better range, better radar, better short range air defense, and the missile automatically leads the target. The only function the anti armor missile serves is maybe destroying a blind enemy on big open maps where you might have a chance to hit them.
Warthunder, no russian bias.
Ok but does it cuddle good?
We need a new American anti air the adats is good but outdated compared to some from early 2000s as this is only from the 80s and is purely unmatched as an anti air compared to the pantsir
bro wher is twitch live stream ?
It will stop when they release the DN-11
Awesome SPAA man yahoo my favorite SPAA
SPAA OOOH COOOL A SURFACE TO AIR MISSILE :D :0
Lemme get the striker mounted morad in game. Thing can fire air and ground missles
FIX THE CHEATING PROBLEM UPDATE THE ANTICHEAT
you're smoking
He do be smoking tho
i think you're just bad at the game
@@Marshmallow603 cheater
@@gbodybala9295 no dude you're just bad
When is the Canadian version coming to German tree? That makes a nice 50 buck premium. (I’m gonna kill myself if this actually happens)
the canadian version is already in the UK tech tree
@@patriotic-panda yeah I know but there are for some reason Canadian tanks in the German tree
@@matteorudolph4746 and I’m the British tree. And the American tree
지휘전차 판터 A 또는 초기 G형을 골든 이글로 구매가 가능한 독일 프리미엄 장비로 추가해 줄 수 있나요?
A wise man said, "ADATS, Anti DAT shi-"
Can you please remove the roundel restriction binding them to countries. It's really outdated in the games current state and we'd love to fight under our own countries roundel no matter the nation.
Britain needs a better top teir AA SYSTEM Adapts is meh at best
Rapier would be 10.3 and the stormer adats could be 11.3.
Throws a DCS clip in the video
It has the worst radar for an AA tank in game.
Please do the brazilian tech tree with the piranha 🙏🏻
Why does the Britain versian not get the auto cannon for close range cababilty, but the country that never even bought them gets the better vehicle???
because the Canadians didnt use a gun?
So they do remove negative comments! Lol what a shame of a company
Another step toward full blown fortnight, construction in game
don,t fix in game problems, add more.
Such a swiss concept😭
The Snail will never let me go
Estou com problema no jogo ele aparece conectando ao servidor e n funciona mas a personalizada funciona tô a 3 dia sem joga😢
Sou de Xbox séries s
Please DECOMPRESS BR MORE TO 15 ALR THERE IS ENOUGH
What country does it belong to
It is NOT SPAA, It is TD in game. Biggest weak point
I don’t have it
War Thunder Officially fell off 💀
How?
Who is watching this hike playing War Thunder???
Can us get a better and actual spaa. Also th missile smoke blocks your view when firing at tanks. It’s really bad compared to actual spaa of other nations
when italy get new spaa?
Worst adats is US veriant .. Worst apache is US veriant .. what the hell??
uh what? theres only 2 adats in the game, the best one is in the US tree, and the US has apaches equal to that of other nations
what yall doing in arcade? (im a realistic player and it is my duty to bully arcade players)
(the rangefinder in sniper mode was changing automaticaly in real time)
Truly Anti-All
Nah anti nothing