Lebron knows he will not win another title with this team, so his legacy will fade cos he will not reach mj by now, so he figure that the only way to last in basketball history (n stay at the goat conversation, nevermind mj will always be the goat) is reachin the alltime leading score title, so right now he is focused on acomplish that goal, he dont care lakers he dont care ad, something get broke between ad lebron relationship with westbrook lakers arrival, something broke between gm n bron, so he focused on him, so anyway who cares he will never surpass mj, not even kareem, not even west n arguably not even giannis
Joy never addressed what I think were Rick's two biggest points. 1) LeBron sitting against the better defensive teams and playing against the lower rated defenses. 2) LeBron having a negative +/- personally. He may be scoring efficiently, but the other team is outscoring the Lakers when he is on the court. I wish they would have had her clarify her defense to those points.
Who on the Lakers has a positive +/-? I’m actually serious. Of course he has a negative +/- when they’re getting beaten by 20 and are 12 or so games under .500
Now? You think LeBron decided to be selfish now? This has been going on for a while. LeBron knew full well he wasn't getting a real title weeks ago and stopped playing defense then.
@@RJizzle2000 This is my opinion. If you can't give me everything you have on both sides of the court when you are in the game then you don't belong on a team and should retire instead of accumulating stats just to make yourself look good in the record books. Arron Rodgers has only won 1 Superbowl and is still a great quarterback. But how would you feel if he wasn't that good anymore and continued to play until he broke all the records because he played longer than anyone else.
@@RJizzle2000 While I served in the Marine Corps my Staff NCO's trained harder than the younger Marines. While we were goofing off on our free time they were training to beat us on the physical fitness test and rifle range. At least the ones in my unit did. As you get older the standards drop a little to allow you to get the same amount of points as someone younger. At ages over 40 they were still able to run 18 minutes for 3 miles, do 20 pullups and 100 crunches in 2 minutes. So that excuse about he can't do what he used to because he's old is BS.
@@emeterioarredondo1775 bingo. Corpsman here. The older you get the harder you got to train to keep up with the younger generation. Of course you become smarter with how you train but it gets tougher.
Or he is scoring early on to keep them in striking distance (because who else has consistently done it this year), but runs out of gas because he’s in year 19 at 37 years old?
The leadership has been sorely lacking. His boy Shannon Sharpe was out here clowning and scapegoating Russ all year long, and he didn’t bother to try to put a stop to that. He never tried to run plays for easy baskets for Russ to get him going. One can then infer he was fine with that message being out there that Russ was responsible for the team’s failure. The team sees that. It becomes every man for himself and the teamwork and performances tank. Skip was right. Russ was brought in to be a scapegoat.
I'm comfortable saying that no one on here knows Shannon personally. I'm also comfortable saying to no one, including Bron, can keep Shannon from speaking his mind and doing his job as he sees it.
I don't know what game y'all be watching but when LeBron plays with the team the offense is at a stand still and everyone is waiting on LeBron. As great as he is this year he did not try to compromise he wanted everyone to play around him.
Lakers are 6-16 without lebron and 25-31 With him. Most of the games without him was at the beginning of the season when he was injured they still had Anthony Davis and Russell who’s played every game except one. Their record with lebron is mostly without Anthony Davis soo the record is better with him and he’s had less then when they were playing without him stats speak for themselves they should play around him cause all they do is lose when he doesn’t play 😂
Lebron always controls the narrative. Injuries, and deciding when to play. When your not injured and your team is winning why are you still playing the full game? if your team is losing by 20 in the 4th and your injured why are you playing????same Legoat
Nobody said Russ is solely responsible. People said "Dont bring Russ to LA, he doesn't play winning basketball" which is still true. Lebron is to be blamed for bringing him there, he made an ego move
If you score big but your opponent scores bigger you lose. It's not rocket science. And stop blaming the roster, the Clippers managed without their big 2. Lakers have had 2 of their big 3 available most of season.
Ty Lue is the coach of the year for me, amazing what he did with that banged up roster all season long. Ty Lue is even shining more now without Bron, but so do a lot of people once they get away from him.
If Lebron always played with less, then how is it an issue that he's playing with "less". Are the Nuggets in full strength? Warriors? Clips? Nets? How many teams are missing their second or first best player? And how many of them have slid to be out of the playoff? And how many if them still have another HOF teammate/former mvp and multiple HOFs? It's clear what's happening with Lebron. He can't contribute towards winning anyone without another superstar than can carry him, and his scoring is his way out of that
Lebron fans always have excuses for him when he comes up short. Injuries isn't an excuse when the Clippers haven't had Kawhi all season, and Paul George for half the season. Yet they are still the playoffs.
Bro how many of them superstars 37 years old? Stop the hate it’s sad. Jokic like 26 all those players you talking about HOF are wayyyy past their prime. Ain’t even a competition with other young teams
@@franknatti5367 BUT BRON WANTED VETS!! 🤣 which one is it , your talking about age now but at the beginning of the season it was “keep that same energy” “Lakers have vets that know how to win” oh u forgot ?
Joy, ever the blind defender of LeBron...Nick Wright twist and manipulates the numbers, Shannon Sharpe tries to downplay Michael Jordan, but only Joy ALWAYS blames everybody else every single time for the failings of LeBron. But Joy, the Lakers were losing when AD was healthy...the Lakers are losing even more with LeBron focusing more on scoring. Losing by 5 or losing by 20, you still lost...the goal is to win, and how LeBron is playing is not resulting in wins. AD has been back and they still haven't won since he came back, can't blame the talent.
He's always been calculating. I think you guys need to re-examine his career carefully. Case in point, I remember when he was with the Cavs and K-Love was having an historic first half and some how he never got the ball back again in the second half. Explain why the heat lost to the Mavs? LBJ wanted to be the man and if he doesn't get what he wants, he will do less than what is expected or he will just quit on his team. Jordan can be called many things: selfish, arrogant, a bully but no one will ever say he ever quit on his team and that goes double for Kobe. Ms. Buss made a mistake in signing LBJ, not all money is good money.
@@timesize ig you can’t criticize lebron without saying something about some luck… and how can the other 3 years be an example of the team when the team is not even the same
@@chris-px8hp because the outcome of those seasons are eerily similar. LeBron joined that original team. It should have gotten better. And when the world is open the new team doesn’t win games in public. I guess LeBron is still good at playing in empty gyms 👏🏼
Just the fact he avoids the hard games should tell you his real objectives at this point. He gave up on his team months ago, when a play-off run was still a possibility. He realized the team couldn't go very far so he simply gave up on them and began playing only for his personal stats and awards. He better keep calling himself the GOAT because most people don't and never will.
@@shredacademy6170 he twisted his ankle last week. Sooo... if he played with an injury in garbage time, you'd call him a Stat padder right. You're so smart you closed the logic loop and it isn't humanly possible to get out of it. You've designed your logic to no matter what he does, it's wrong. Hopefully you don't employ your closed logic loop to people in real life because that's what abusers do. Just keep it fun and for the comments please.
If he played hurt with his team pretty much mathematically eliminated. You'd call it Stat padding. If he sat to heal he's choosing his games. So essentially you closed off any possibility of him doing anything positive. Now go attack him for not meeting your insane virtually impossible criteria.
we are not talking about other teams though this is a discussion about the lakers injuries affect different team in different ways . The lakers have yet to have a complete roster this year
@@ryanr20091 but when nets fans talk about they was a kyrie and harden injury away from winning a chip nobody wants to hear they injury excuse so nobody wanna hear the lakers. And I’m a die hard lakers fan
Well I think we all though AD was supposed to take over this was gonna be his team. LBJ is on the tail end of a great career can’t will them to win For him to score at his age against younger faster players or skilled sharp shooters will ball handles. Old man still looks like he can play. Plz name a player that was this good in his his 19 th and 20 th year Kareem. Karl. Dirk. And even the great MJ Father Time eventually gets them all I hear ppl saying don’t play defense. Lol. I think. He might get that defensive player award 🙄 still better than most of nba players still
@@jamesadams6626 what great player was 37 at age 19? Kobe and kg. Kobe missed the year with injures and kg was a bench player. Stop comparing his years to dudes who were in the 40s at that time in their careers. Jordan played 15 years but if he didn’t retire he would have played 20 at age 41 and was giving yu 22 a game
Why when people say "what more can LeBron do?" people ALWAYS answer with "play defense" the people that ASKED "what more can he do?" DON'T LIKE THAT ANSWER & instantly dismiss it & continue to talk about offense...... Joy did it multiple times thus segment 🤷🏾♂️
If LeBron the star of the team and the Tone Setter ain't playing defense I 'm not either. 85%of that team are on 1 year contracts. They just finishing up and moving on cuz this thing a wash
@@firstchain_prominence nobody is because he’s not he aint they already bad defenders why tf we gotta pick up for him constantly giving up wide open corner 3s getting back doored over an over he’s as bad on defense as melo this year an that’s BAD
@@ne0n1nja247 How do you expect him in year 19 to defend at an elite level...He has played more minutes than any1 on that team...If he defends more...he scores less...who else can step up and score 30point consistently!!! He has sat down for a few games...what have they done ??? Kd scored 55points..kyrie score 31point...who else came thru...and they lost...
Joy may I remind you that in his entire career we tend to say he always makes his team and teammates better, if he can make a role player in Cavs better why he can’t do it with 3 NBA Top50/75 teammates and soon to be HOF.
umm if catch and shoots aren't apart of moving the ball then what the he'll was Klay Thompson doing with the warriors all these years in their move the ball offense?...goofy I swear you are
@@mrhoward19801 that sounds stupid because I can name plenty of players that never won is before or after playing with Bron...but when they had Bron on their team they won...Can I interest you in Kyrie Irving...yall still waiting to see his big time shooting in the playoffs since he left Bron...can I interest you in Dwight Howard finally winning and he played with Kobe and Harden...can I interest you if he didn't make his Early cavs team better than he just was great enough to carry them which is still saying something since I've never seen anybody carry average players like Bron has
LBJ is on a mission to establish a record, ie the scoring title. It is more than obvious. The fact that he sat down in a key game like the one against the Mavs says it all.
how explain? since when are the mavs a defensive power house? you people are fucken crazy. if brown plays he's following the scoring tittle and he should sit and just worry about next year and now that he sits he's still chasing the scoring tittle? and even if he is so what? wtf is he suppose to do. I swear its so stupid that you hear rich say Melo and monk are the big time scorers and you think yup? like don't you watch?
@@jcabrera8425 The Mavs are a top five defensive team, they allow the second least points in the league, and Luka has routinely embarrassed LeBron and his Lakers for the last two seasons. It was a great game to avoid for LeBron, especially since Luka offensively targets LeBron on switches, such easy buckets for him. You are getting emotional without any facts, must be a Bron stan.
@@QuestionEverything562 you didn't watch those Mavs games. Luka targeted him only at the end of the game and when he did he had to make difficult shots over him. Those buckets weren't easy.
@@alexlewis5068 I said going back the last two seasons, not just the last game they played. Luka goes after LeBron, just like everybody else now. You gonna sit here and say LeBron can defend Luka at this stage?
I'm glad there's finally some objectivity about Lebron on this channel. He's sacrificing the Lakers chance at the playoffs so that he could win the scoring title.
@@matheobavogui7493 Let's see if he plays enough to qualify for the scoring title. He takes games off against good defensive teams and plays against the easy ones
I wouldn’t even say he’s sacrificing their chance now. He sacrificed it by bringing a high priced player that doesn’t fit and collecting bargain pieces with the rest of their cap space. But right now he’s just realizing he can’t win regardless bc AD is back and their still losing
What happened to defense? Ducking the good defesnsive teams is not a winning formula do you want to win? 37 is not the new 27 it is all down hill. The leader has to lead by example. Never can you win playing 4 on 5 defense
Lebron being strategic lol. He ain’t going let that average dip. Also he does not want to let his consecutive games streak of scoring double digits to end.
I’ll answer Joy’s question on what else is lebron supposed to do but score? That’s all he cares about! Not only that, he has to score a lot because his team is always trailing..a lot! You’re down 20 of course you have to score at will to try & make some game of it. But lebron all year has been selfish & acho is right he only plays against teams that he knows he can score a lot of points on.
Why was Joy even there? She had one argument that didn't hold up to the most minor evidence and then she just repeated it. That's not a debate. That's denial of reality.
I don't think Russ was brought there to be a scapegoat at all, he was supposed to be a relief in the point guard position. LeBron was the small forward who was also the PG he facilitate and score they felt him having that job would wear him out
It's pathetic, Jordan himself was out about stats in 96 and he said stats are just the result of trying to win. He didn't care about stats if it didn't result in winning. He literally said if he cared about stats and numbers he could have no retired and played longer to chase Kareems record, yet winning is what mattered. This was in the 90s and applies to Bron now.
No, she didn't. They have a point. LBJ stans always have excuses for him. LeBron gets the added criticism because he calls himself the goat and hyped up this team at the start of the season. but no other player has more fanboys making excuses for them like LeBron either.
@@knowjc35 lmao and notice he talks the most in the league in his mind he think he is what MJ was in the league his peers respects him but don't fear him
@@Ejr82u Nobody at all fears old no D playing Bron anymore. Luka literally tries to get Bron to switch onto him on defense every time, Bron has no lateral movement on defense anymore. I literally saw Luka drool when James switched onto him.
@@xavierwilliams5107 your just proving u don’t know basketball repeating Narratives Bro… How are they gonna get in RYTHYM if they don’t Know when they’ll get the ball?? Lebron Dictates the Flow of the game by how much he holds the ball…. Do u Think In that Thick as Skull of yours that Anyone would want to play wit someone who doesn’t pass and chucking up shots But also not playing defense and gets mad at u bc u didn’t guard his and your Man on defense???don’t deflect answer my question please
@@Azariah-Israel If you keep missing shots why would you continously give them the ball and let the offense run through them? If they don't like it then they need to get in the gym and work on their broken jumper.
joy actually ignored ricks points he was saying lebron is obviously dodging the better defensive teams trying to squeak out a 2nd scoring title to jordan the goat's TEN (lebron will not even play 60 games though; jordan played in 81 or 82 games EACH TIME he won the scoring title except for ONE season in which he played in "just" 78 lol) anyone who knows math knows its easier to maintain a higher batting ave in baseball and a higher scoring ave in basketball when you play in LESS GAMES she never addressed that; like most bronsexuals you miss the point entirely
Michael never got criticism...he was 38 with the Wizards and played 60 games...chucked it up 22.1 times per game at a 41.6% (18.9% from 3) clip. All I remember hearing was he's too old and putting a stain on his legacy...That Jordan did play in the NBA and made the all star on reputation alone (remember Dirk and Wade)...Lebron is chucking it up 21.8 times at a 52.4% clip and 35.9% from 3...Did you ever think that maybe he is just reminding you that he could have won more scoring titles? Similar to the year he led the league in assists...just because he felt like it....
@@djboriqua1274 he was 39 and hadn't played in THREE YEARS ... lebron is 37 and hasn't been sitting around for three years also lebron began this season with 5 other hofers on his squad jordan had zero on the wizards after sitting around for 3 yrs and WAS OLDER than lebron is... you mentioned some numbers; how about 6-0... 10 scoring titles ...9 times first team all defense ...if lebron had that ability he would have won more scoring titles ...he simply is not that dude thats why he is only playing in so few games AS I SAID ABOVE...the more games he plays in the the more his average will drop just like hitters in baseball he is an average scorer compared to jordan and a lousy defender compared to jordan and a loser in finals compared to jordan any player can say "i could have won the rebounding title every yr if i wanted to ...but i only got two" ...thats called wishful thinking and "what if" b.s.and it meaningless literally ANYONE in ANY sport can say that when they lose: "i could have ..." lol if he could have he WOULD have as jordan did ROUTINELY so nah he's not reminding us "he could have done" anything...he's just trying to manufacture more fugazi-ness by barely playing enough games to ATTEMPT to win a scoring title in a very selfish way while his hand picked team flounders one of the MOST EMBARRASSING seasons in lakers history (again proving he is NOT on jordans level) and this dude is selfishly chasing a scoring title smh rather than trying to win
@@bmill8780 Then why is he only player weaker teams?? Why did he not play Philly twice and Denver?? Why did he play SAC and Detroit?? BUT sat back out after returning vs Denver… He Made the fake injury so his fans would Defend him… His Tim I LA was a Flop… Other than the Mickey Ring His Other 3 seasons Were FAILURES
They would but y’all bron fans always try to flip the narrative to another player when it don’t got nun to do with them Kobe an mj played freaking defense or atleast attempted he’s chasing stats he gave up on winning Kobe was always shot first a lot same with mj but they played defense when has bron lead the league in shot attempts this the first time an he just so happen to be this bad of defense hmmm strange
@12:11 She's low key admitting that it's HARDER to play defense than to score on the offence at his age.....THUS proving that he's not as good as he was in the past on defense....further PROVING that a scoring title when you have the ball 80% of the time as the teams point guard...and still LOSING isn't exactly impressive. Chucking up Logo 3s or only driving into the lane for layups/and 1s looking for calls at the expense of defense and an actual winning percentage ain't making GOAT status decisions. Especially when most of those games are losing huge leads going into the 4th.
Defense is basically 100% effort. You have to actually "want" to play defense. Lebron clearly has shown little to no effort on the defensive side of the floor all season.
My thing Joy is, if he's going to give 75 on offense and 25 on defense, don't act like you're mad they're not playing defense and slam the ball down multiple times because they're doing exactly what he's doing. 🤷🏾♂️
He dropped 34 against the Jazz when they were actually playing good. He also owned the nuggets and had easier time scoring around Jokich. The mavs game was back to back and the pelicans game was more important. Man got them thinking this is conspiracy
facts. if he didn't suffer any injuries this season he would have missed way less games. we legit saw the ankle roll. Steph been out for longer with that same injury
The more games he plays the harder it is to keep the average up. Learn math, and learn basketball. That’s why he’ll ensure he plays two more games. Hurt or not. He’s going for the scoring title and checked out trying to win. If that’s not the case, then he should sit out the remainder of the season to avoid risking more injury. But we know he won’t. And from now on his game will be to score as much as he can, while playing the minimum numbers of games to qualify.
@@fuddyduddie1205 I will learn math and u learn biology. He started missing games due to injury. He is 37 in year 19 and played more games than Steph, KD, Klay and other players.Y’all crying he playing every game to break Kareem’s record and when he gets hurt and seats y’all cry he trying to win the scoring tittle. 😂
So u watch the whole game and don’t see lbj stand in front of anyone and defend or are u blind? Or u talking about the 3 plays a game he don’t run back in transition over a turnover? Or is a player scoring 40 on lbj a game cause of his “no defense” ? He playing hella minutes and giving all the energy for the whole team on offense 9/10 games
Effort where...you must be outta of your mind...this bunch of analyst cant even run for 45mins...You think basketball is played with your mouth? btw if he has injury...they expect him to recover in 24hrs because he is superman....
They just dropped 112 yesterday against the Nuggets. They can score without Lebron. Honestly watching the game yesterday, I thought as a team they looked better without Lebron. I daw more ball movement, Russ actually played great, because he could play his game and wasn't worried about trying to fit in with Lebron.
By that logic Kobe at 26yo wasn’t top 10 when he averaged 27.6ppg in 2004-05 since his team missed the playoffs. Tracy McGrady at 24yo wasn’t top 10 when he averaged a league high 28ppg in 2003-04 since his team missed the playoffs. Allen Iverson at 30yo wasn’t top 10 when he averaged 33ppg in 2005-06 since his team missed the playoffs Carmelo Anthony at 29yo wasn’t top 10 when he averaged 27.4ppg in no inning 2013-14 since his team missed the playoffs Those ALL TIME GREATS players are just examples to show you how stupid your statement was.
Lmao that Hawks game last year where Hill accidentally fell on LeBum's ankle. Then LeBron goes down for like 3 min, and then gets up and hits a corner three to get to 10 points so he can keep that double digit points streak record alive, then exits the game immediately afterwards. The man has no shame 💀💀💀
Star players elevate the play of their team mates. They demand others give 110 percent. They willingly carry the load regardless of if their team wins. And they play every game sometimes even when hurt. Example Jordon.
It's not just the scoring title, it's Kareem's record he's chasing this year. He knows an injury could hit him at any time, so he wants to be able to break Kareem's record next season, not pushing his luck to 2024! That's why last year and this year his 3s shooting has gone way up, his minutes are high and his usage rate is way more and than the 2020 title team and his assists are down. And Joy's argument only holds water if Lebron was playing good defense. But he's not trying on D.
And your argument only hold if LBJ was play in his first 10 season. You realize this man is in his 19th season????? Name a NBA super star, other than LBJ who plays defense after their 15 seasons? Look man appreciate this man brother
@@IrwinLoganSr That’s Another excuse don’t Praise him to the sun and back When he has a good scoring game or they win but blame his teammates when they lose… this is exactly why everyone is wrong thru the fake Narratives and Lies Now💯💯 Lebron is the Most OVERRATED PLAYER IN HISTORY
If Lebron wins the scoring title, all the people will remember is that record of him getting it at age 37. And Lebron knows that. No one will ever remember he did it in the most selfish way. To the point where he never even cared for his team's success and even saying he has the time of his life with a record of 30-41. And of course, bronsexuals would be defending him all the way.
@@leadernotafollower296 they also had ad and Russ played one of his best games of the year. Which neither one of those have been a factor for most of the year
@@leadernotafollower296 they actually seem to have a more fluid team offense and distribute points better without Lebron. It would have been interesting to see them gel as a team w/o him. Given more time, they might have been able to have a little success
Once again my point is that ad hasn’t been playing for most of the season. So take out Lebron and ad. The lakers already don’t defend so how will they score enough when they are giving the other team 120-130+ point’s
Thank you. Defense Injuries and Russ has been the problem. And Don't Get Me Started on THT and Nunn 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ He's Stealing money from the Lakers.
@@nehsone7491 i can tell u dont watch games been plenty times where he has locked in on defense and played very good he cant sustain that and score he’s 37
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Lebron knows he will not win another title with this team, so his legacy will fade cos he will not reach mj by now, so he figure that the only way to last in basketball history (n stay at the goat conversation, nevermind mj will always be the goat) is reachin the alltime leading score title, so right now he is focused on acomplish that goal, he dont care lakers he dont care ad, something get broke between ad lebron relationship with westbrook lakers arrival, something broke between gm n bron, so he focused on him, so anyway who cares he will never surpass mj, not even kareem, not even west n arguably not even giannis
I strongly advise u to sign up for grammarly cuz ur point would’ve resonated better without ur brain.
@@BY-rz1xu u get it, so who cares?
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Joy never addressed what I think were Rick's two biggest points.
1) LeBron sitting against the better defensive teams and playing against the lower rated defenses.
2) LeBron having a negative +/- personally. He may be scoring efficiently, but the other team is outscoring the Lakers when he is on the court.
I wish they would have had her clarify her defense to those points.
Who on the Lakers has a positive +/-? I’m actually serious. Of course he has a negative +/- when they’re getting beaten by 20 and are 12 or so games under .500
All she did is just defend LBJ with non-sense.
Neither one of them answered her question as to who's going to do the scoring if he doesn't? 👂🏾
big facts cuz its no excuse to cover that
Joy is just eye candy. Not surprised that she didn't answer Rick's questions. She always been an LBJ sack hugger.
Now?
You think LeBron decided to be selfish now?
This has been going on for a while.
LeBron knew full well he wasn't getting a real title weeks ago and stopped playing defense then.
Come on now. Be honest. LeBron has been playing selective defense for years now. It's just now that people are actually talking about it
@@emeterioarredondo1775 lol just like the rest of the stars in the NBA that are 29 or older💀💀
@@RJizzle2000 This is my opinion. If you can't give me everything you have on both sides of the court when you are in the game then you don't belong on a team and should retire instead of accumulating stats just to make yourself look good in the record books. Arron Rodgers has only won 1 Superbowl and is still a great quarterback. But how would you feel if he wasn't that good anymore and continued to play until he broke all the records because he played longer than anyone else.
@@RJizzle2000 While I served in the Marine Corps my Staff NCO's trained harder than the younger Marines. While we were goofing off on our free time they were training to beat us on the physical fitness test and rifle range. At least the ones in my unit did. As you get older the standards drop a little to allow you to get the same amount of points as someone younger. At ages over 40 they were still able to run 18 minutes for 3 miles, do 20 pullups and 100 crunches in 2 minutes. So that excuse about he can't do what he used to because he's old is BS.
@@emeterioarredondo1775 bingo. Corpsman here. The older you get the harder you got to train to keep up with the younger generation. Of course you become smarter with how you train but it gets tougher.
Yall can check this, LBJ usually doesn't score when they need him to score. 1st 2 or 3 quarters he's unstoppable.
Those quarters don't count towards the final score? 😂
Oh they do, but a couple more when the game is close gets you a win, I watched James Harden do it in Houston way too much.
Wat about the 4th quarter 😆
Or he is scoring early on to keep them in striking distance (because who else has consistently done it this year), but runs out of gas because he’s in year 19 at 37 years old?
When don't they need him to score tho?
The leadership has been sorely lacking.
His boy Shannon Sharpe was out here clowning and scapegoating Russ all year long, and he didn’t bother to try to put a stop to that. He never tried to run plays for easy baskets for Russ to get him going.
One can then infer he was fine with that message being out there that Russ was responsible for the team’s failure.
The team sees that. It becomes every man for himself and the teamwork and performances tank.
Skip was right. Russ was brought in to be a scapegoat.
When he's the HOMETOWN KID who should've got the LOVE an been the Head of their attack.
I'm comfortable saying that no one on here knows Shannon personally. I'm also comfortable saying to no one, including Bron, can keep Shannon from speaking his mind and doing his job as he sees it.
You sound stupid lol but when you’re a hater that’s what y’all do
Leadership is one thing, but others have to be willing to follow.
Or Russ was brought in to sabotage LeBron tenure in LA.
I don't know what game y'all be watching but when LeBron plays with the team the offense is at a stand still and everyone is waiting on LeBron. As great as he is this year he did not try to compromise he wanted everyone to play around him.
Curry had worst players last year and made the team better
But where is he wrong then when nobody is giving him help
Lakers are 6-16 without lebron and 25-31 With him. Most of the games without him was at the beginning of the season when he was injured they still had Anthony Davis and Russell who’s played every game except one. Their record with lebron is mostly without Anthony Davis soo the record is better with him and he’s had less then when they were playing without him stats speak for themselves they should play around him cause all they do is lose when he doesn’t play 😂
Lebron always controls the narrative. Injuries, and deciding when to play. When your not injured and your team is winning why are you still playing the full game? if your team is losing by 20 in the 4th and your injured why are you playing????same Legoat
Nobody said Russ is solely responsible. People said "Dont bring Russ to LA, he doesn't play winning basketball" which is still true. Lebron is to be blamed for bringing him there, he made an ego move
If you score big but your opponent scores bigger you lose. It's not rocket science. And stop blaming the roster, the Clippers managed without their big 2. Lakers have had 2 of their big 3 available most of season.
Exactly
Ty Lue is the coach of the year for me, amazing what he did with that banged up roster all season long. Ty Lue is even shining more now without Bron, but so do a lot of people once they get away from him.
@@QuestionEverything562 Fax that man never got recognition because of the LeCoach bs
If Lebron always played with less, then how is it an issue that he's playing with "less". Are the Nuggets in full strength? Warriors? Clips? Nets? How many teams are missing their second or first best player? And how many of them have slid to be out of the playoff? And how many if them still have another HOF teammate/former mvp and multiple HOFs? It's clear what's happening with Lebron. He can't contribute towards winning anyone without another superstar than can carry him, and his scoring is his way out of that
Lebron fans always have excuses for him when he comes up short.
Injuries isn't an excuse when the Clippers haven't had Kawhi all season, and Paul George for half the season. Yet they are still the playoffs.
He not even hurt frfr so play in all the games
Bro how many of them superstars 37 years old? Stop the hate it’s sad. Jokic like 26 all those players you talking about HOF are wayyyy past their prime. Ain’t even a competition with other young teams
@@franknatti5367 him being 37 don't mean 💩 because Holmes only playing offense
@@franknatti5367 BUT BRON WANTED VETS!! 🤣 which one is it , your talking about age now but at the beginning of the season it was “keep that same energy” “Lakers have vets that know how to win” oh u forgot ?
Joy, ever the blind defender of LeBron...Nick Wright twist and manipulates the numbers, Shannon Sharpe tries to downplay Michael Jordan, but only Joy ALWAYS blames everybody else every single time for the failings of LeBron. But Joy, the Lakers were losing when AD was healthy...the Lakers are losing even more with LeBron focusing more on scoring. Losing by 5 or losing by 20, you still lost...the goal is to win, and how LeBron is playing is not resulting in wins.
AD has been back and they still haven't won since he came back, can't blame the talent.
Cause he chose the Heat
Joy is just there because of her brother privilege at it's finest
@@arizonaFIREent
Yup
He's always been calculating. I think you guys need to re-examine his career carefully. Case in point, I remember when he was with the Cavs and K-Love was having an historic first half and some how he never got the ball back again in the second half. Explain why the heat lost to the Mavs? LBJ wanted to be the man and if he doesn't get what he wants, he will do less than what is expected or he will just quit on his team. Jordan can be called many things: selfish, arrogant, a bully but no one will ever say he ever quit on his team and that goes double for Kobe. Ms. Buss made a mistake in signing LBJ, not all money is good money.
GTFOH and I cant stand the lakers or lebron but u reaching dude
he won a chip 2 years ago nut
They are extraordinarily lucky the bubble went that way. The other 3 years are a much better example of what this team has been
@@timesize ig you can’t criticize lebron without saying something about some luck… and how can the other 3 years be an example of the team when the team is not even the same
@@chris-px8hp because the outcome of those seasons are eerily similar. LeBron joined that original team. It should have gotten better. And when the world is open the new team doesn’t win games in public. I guess LeBron is still good at playing in empty gyms 👏🏼
Just the fact he avoids the hard games should tell you his real objectives at this point. He gave up on his team months ago, when a play-off run was still a possibility. He realized the team couldn't go very far so he simply gave up on them and began playing only for his personal stats and awards. He better keep calling himself the GOAT because most people don't and never will.
Was GS a hard game? toronto b2b? was cleveland ?
@@matheobavogui7493 Suns game tonight.
@@shredacademy6170 he twisted his ankle last week. Sooo... if he played with an injury in garbage time, you'd call him a Stat padder right. You're so smart you closed the logic loop and it isn't humanly possible to get out of it. You've designed your logic to no matter what he does, it's wrong. Hopefully you don't employ your closed logic loop to people in real life because that's what abusers do. Just keep it fun and for the comments please.
If he played hurt with his team pretty much mathematically eliminated. You'd call it Stat padding. If he sat to heal he's choosing his games. So essentially you closed off any possibility of him doing anything positive. Now go attack him for not meeting your insane virtually impossible criteria.
He can’t win for losing with you haters
Injuries are a big excuse because every team has dealt with injuries to key players
we are not talking about other teams though this is a discussion about the lakers injuries affect different team in different ways . The lakers have yet to have a complete roster this year
@@ryanr20091 but when nets fans talk about they was a kyrie and harden injury away from winning a chip nobody wants to hear they injury excuse so nobody wanna hear the lakers. And I’m a die hard lakers fan
@@derquandoucett7986 doesnt matter what you want to hear the truth stands
Well I think we all though AD was supposed to take over this was gonna be his team. LBJ is on the tail end of a great career can’t will them to win For him to score at his age against younger faster players or skilled sharp shooters will ball handles. Old man still looks like he can play. Plz name a player that was this good in his his 19 th and 20 th year Kareem. Karl. Dirk. And even the great MJ Father Time eventually gets them all I hear ppl saying don’t play defense. Lol. I think. He might get that defensive player award 🙄 still better than most of nba players still
@@jamesadams6626 what great player was 37 at age 19? Kobe and kg. Kobe missed the year with injures and kg was a bench player. Stop comparing his years to dudes who were in the 40s at that time in their careers. Jordan played 15 years but if he didn’t retire he would have played 20 at age 41 and was giving yu 22 a game
There is zero objectivity in joys take. Even a hard-core lebron Stan like acho can't deny it anymore.
Lebron is chasing numbers
I’m with Joy.
Joy: if there were pieces around him....
Me: sees russ, Melo, Howard and ad
Really?..... really
Are any of those players playing well. And has ad been out hole majority of the season?
@@allabouttheu2182 AD is always hurt. That’s part of having him
Why when people say "what more can LeBron do?" people ALWAYS answer with "play defense" the people that ASKED "what more can he do?" DON'T LIKE THAT ANSWER & instantly dismiss it & continue to talk about offense...... Joy did it multiple times thus segment 🤷🏾♂️
y would he when nobody else does goofy
@@firstchain_prominence nobody else is playing defense because he isn’t
If LeBron the star of the team and the Tone Setter ain't playing defense I 'm not either. 85%of that team are on 1 year contracts. They just finishing up and moving on cuz this thing a wash
@@firstchain_prominence nobody is because he’s not he aint they already bad defenders why tf we gotta pick up for him constantly giving up wide open corner 3s getting back doored over an over he’s as bad on defense as melo this year an that’s BAD
@@ne0n1nja247 How do you expect him in year 19 to defend at an elite level...He has played more minutes than any1 on that team...If he defends more...he scores less...who else can step up and score 30point consistently!!! He has sat down for a few games...what have they done ??? Kd scored 55points..kyrie score 31point...who else came thru...and they lost...
Joy may I remind you that in his entire career we tend to say he always makes his team and teammates better, if he can make a role player in Cavs better why he can’t do it with 3 NBA Top50/75 teammates and soon to be HOF.
Cause they don't know their roles
Because he doesn’t always make his team better. No one can make another player make a basket.
How many good players he got trade❓❓ to put this no defensive team together..plus Westbrook been playing like this it's just u see him more
@@thedarnelltheory so your implying that LBJ is not a good leader?
@@jamesmcluvlee it only means his not a good leader.
That’s a myth about Lebron liking to get his teammates involved. Catch and shoot isn’t getting your teammates involved
You just eliminated 90% of great pg's smh. You also have to realize he's not the actual PG right?
umm if catch and shoots aren't apart of moving the ball then what the he'll was Klay Thompson doing with the warriors all these years in their move the ball offense?...goofy I swear you are
No, it’s a myth that LeBron makes his players better
@@suntansuperman26 it’s 100% a myth because you can’t name anyone that played better with Lebrin
@@mrhoward19801 that sounds stupid because I can name plenty of players that never won is before or after playing with Bron...but when they had Bron on their team they won...Can I interest you in Kyrie Irving...yall still waiting to see his big time shooting in the playoffs since he left Bron...can I interest you in Dwight Howard finally winning and he played with Kobe and Harden...can I interest you if he didn't make his Early cavs team better than he just was great enough to carry them which is still saying something since I've never seen anybody carry average players like Bron has
LBJ is on a mission to establish a record, ie the scoring title. It is more than obvious. The fact that he sat down in a key game like the one against the Mavs says it all.
how explain? since when are the mavs a defensive power house? you people are fucken crazy. if brown plays he's following the scoring tittle and he should sit and just worry about next year and now that he sits he's still chasing the scoring tittle? and even if he is so what? wtf is he suppose to do. I swear its so stupid that you hear rich say Melo and monk are the big time scorers and you think yup? like don't you watch?
@@jcabrera8425 lmao, reLAX
@@jcabrera8425 The Mavs are a top five defensive team, they allow the second least points in the league, and Luka has routinely embarrassed LeBron and his Lakers for the last two seasons. It was a great game to avoid for LeBron, especially since Luka offensively targets LeBron on switches, such easy buckets for him. You are getting emotional without any facts, must be a Bron stan.
@@QuestionEverything562 you didn't watch those Mavs games. Luka targeted him only at the end of the game and when he did he had to make difficult shots over him. Those buckets weren't easy.
@@alexlewis5068 I said going back the last two seasons, not just the last game they played. Luka goes after LeBron, just like everybody else now. You gonna sit here and say LeBron can defend Luka at this stage?
LeBron averaging 30 but gives up 40 on the defensive end with lack of effort.. That's part reason why they lose..
I'm glad there's finally some objectivity about Lebron on this channel. He's sacrificing the Lakers chance at the playoffs so that he could win the scoring title.
You dont even believe the nonsense u just wrote.
@@matheobavogui7493 Let's see if he plays enough to qualify for the scoring title. He takes games off against good defensive teams and plays against the easy ones
I wouldn’t even say he’s sacrificing their chance now. He sacrificed it by bringing a high priced player that doesn’t fit and collecting bargain pieces with the rest of their cap space. But right now he’s just realizing he can’t win regardless bc AD is back and their still losing
@@jayh5183 he is not the the GM so that statement is false
@@cagedragnarok1781 so you really think he had no input on the way the roster was constructed?
Last week they was talking about Father Time, now this week no word of Father Time they just can’t understand why LeBron didn’t play
Sitting out important games keep that same energy🤷🏻♂️
@@3rdwsoldier he turned his ankle
What happened to defense? Ducking the good defesnsive teams is not a winning formula do you want to win? 37 is not the new 27 it is all down hill. The leader has to lead by example. Never can you win playing 4 on 5 defense
Wow, Joy really went hard defending Lebron on this one.
a wannabe garden tool for lefraud
Bron always plays really? The man has only played 82 games once
I agree...choosing when and who to play against....avoids defensive teams and defensive bigs
Trust me LeBron knows what he's doing.
Joy got so much drip she know how to carry it too.
Glad Joy acknowledged the double standard on criticism between Steph & Lebron
Lebron being strategic lol. He ain’t going let that average dip. Also he does not want to let his consecutive games streak of scoring double digits to end.
That will never end get that out your mind
@@dwightbeech8190 then why duck Philly, Denver, Phoenix, Dallas then??
So good to see Slick in the studio after such a long time 💯
Joy doesn’t know wtf she’s talking about. Curry last year got clowned and criticized the entire year for losing because Klay and Dray were hurt.
I’ll answer Joy’s question on what else is lebron supposed to do but score? That’s all he cares about! Not only that, he has to score a lot because his team is always trailing..a lot! You’re down 20 of course you have to score at will to try & make some game of it. But lebron all year has been selfish & acho is right he only plays against teams that he knows he can score a lot of points on.
It's odd seeing Acho deliver the closing line of a segment!
This is my favorite clip because everyone was honest.
Space Jam 2 was not “great”
Why was Joy even there?
She had one argument that didn't hold up to the most minor evidence and then she just repeated it.
That's not a debate.
That's denial of reality.
She's pretty and sexy. That's enough or me...
Joy crushed this segment with common sense
Hahaha yea right
Lmao simp lord 💀
Absolutely not! Someone in the Lakers organization knew what they were getting into when they discussed bringing LeBron on board.
Thank you joy for bringing some objectivity to these fools
I see why Marcellus wasn’t a part of this lol
“Till the cut my head off… bury me 12 feet under…” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Excuses man. LeBron is being exposed
Lebron realized early on this team wasn't gonna work so he decided to go all in on scoring and destroyed westbrooks game
Westbrook destroyed his own game my guy
@@imjuicewayne I'm no Westbrook fan but clearly he played better without lebron
Simple... The less games he plays, the less his average is affected.. He is about 10 games shy of Embiid & Giannis... it really is that simple
It's the other way around. Fewer games makes for larger avg changes.
@@derekfischer6823 I know. i should've said his average won't be negatively affected..
Man I love this show. I've been crying foul in a vacuum for some time now. This is shameful stat padding.
Joy didn't respond on why he's sitting out against the teams with good defense lol
I don't think Russ was brought there to be a scapegoat at all, he was supposed to be a relief in the point guard position. LeBron was the small forward who was also the PG he facilitate and score they felt him having that job would wear him out
I really don't care what Joy has to say. But she does have a rockin' rack.
Joy Taylor is making more sense than both of these dudes💯😎
She's not
Why is this a 17 min segment 😂😂😂😂
Finally....media is saying what's been so obvious all season.
It's pathetic, Jordan himself was out about stats in 96 and he said stats are just the result of trying to win. He didn't care about stats if it didn't result in winning. He literally said if he cared about stats and numbers he could have no retired and played longer to chase Kareems record, yet winning is what mattered. This was in the 90s and applies to Bron now.
Hence why the bulls won 72 In 96, 69 games in 97 and 62 in 98 even though Pippen only played in 44 games that season. Mj was about winning
Naa, joy Taylor killed them in this debate 😭😂
On the surface but it's deeper than that lol
Yeah it’s deeper Fan boys can’t see it
No, she didn't. They have a point. LBJ stans always have excuses for him. LeBron gets the added criticism because he calls himself the goat and hyped up this team at the start of the season. but no other player has more fanboys making excuses for them like LeBron either.
@@knowjc35 lmao and notice he talks the most in the league in his mind he think he is what MJ was in the league his peers respects him but don't fear him
@@Ejr82u Nobody at all fears old no D playing Bron anymore. Luka literally tries to get Bron to switch onto him on defense every time, Bron has no lateral movement on defense anymore. I literally saw Luka drool when James switched onto him.
I think to Media LeBron can’t do no wrong ,they blame everybody for the Lakers tumble but LeBron!!!!!
Did you not watch this video? Or the blame he’s gotten for the roster? What do you all hear and watch?
Joy is totally correct!
Rick Bucher been in the zone lately gonna have to get my boy his very own show soon
WhO eLsE iS SuPPosEd tO Be ScOriNg?
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Literally a team completely filled with shooters who were hand picked by LeBron.
But are they making shots??
@@xavierwilliams5107 your just proving u don’t know basketball repeating Narratives Bro… How are they gonna get in RYTHYM if they don’t Know when they’ll get the ball?? Lebron Dictates the Flow of the game by how much he holds the ball…. Do u Think In that Thick as Skull of yours that Anyone would want to play wit someone who doesn’t pass and chucking up shots But also not playing defense and gets mad at u bc u didn’t guard his and your Man on defense???don’t deflect answer my question please
Who are these shooters you speak of? I'll give you Melo, but who else? 🤨
@@Azariah-Israel If you keep missing shots why would you continously give them the ball and let the offense run through them? If they don't like it then they need to get in the gym and work on their broken jumper.
@@Buchanan909 Including LeBron's own broken jumper.
Amen Acho, you have seen the light!
Taking 10-15 shots a game is passive and indifference. Yeah, good idea- pass it more to guys that will miss shots!
When the lakers are down 30 in the 4th wtf is lebron doing on the court?
@@brandonelmo5607 What if he thinks they can comeback? Should he just concede?
Y kd don't the same energy
They should be playing about him playing defense. He probably gives up more points directly than he scores
Been giving up 60 in the paint playing center 🤣
Love seeing them in the studio again.
LeBron care more about scoring title and scoring record than winning
The defense is the problem along with injuries
Not playing while Joel and Giannis are dropping 40 yeah definitely chasing stats
That makes zero sense
@@bmill8780 They say Lebron can guard all 5… why nit Joel or Jokic?? Bc he can’t he’d get cooked he’s chucking shots but plays no Defense…
She is so right ..
They literally kept ignoring Joy question. They had no other option
joy actually ignored ricks points
he was saying lebron is obviously dodging the better defensive teams trying to squeak out a 2nd scoring title to jordan the goat's TEN (lebron will not even play 60 games though; jordan played in 81 or 82 games EACH TIME he won the scoring title except for ONE season in which he played in "just" 78 lol)
anyone who knows math knows its easier to maintain a higher batting ave in baseball and a higher scoring ave in basketball when you play in LESS GAMES
she never addressed that; like most bronsexuals you miss the point entirely
Michael never got criticism...he was 38 with the Wizards and played 60 games...chucked it up 22.1 times per game at a 41.6% (18.9% from 3) clip. All I remember hearing was he's too old and putting a stain on his legacy...That Jordan did play in the NBA and made the all star on reputation alone (remember Dirk and Wade)...Lebron is chucking it up 21.8 times at a 52.4% clip and 35.9% from 3...Did you ever think that maybe he is just reminding you that he could have won more scoring titles? Similar to the year he led the league in assists...just because he felt like it....
@@djboriqua1274 he was 39 and hadn't played in THREE YEARS ... lebron is 37 and hasn't been sitting around for three years
also lebron began this season with 5 other hofers on his squad
jordan had zero on the wizards after sitting around for 3 yrs and WAS OLDER than lebron is...
you mentioned some numbers; how about 6-0... 10 scoring titles ...9 times first team all defense ...if lebron had that ability he would have won more scoring titles ...he simply is not that dude
thats why he is only playing in so few games AS I SAID ABOVE...the more games he plays in the the more his average will drop just like hitters in baseball
he is an average scorer compared to jordan and a lousy defender compared to jordan and a loser in finals compared to jordan
any player can say "i could have won the rebounding title every yr if i wanted to ...but i only got two" ...thats called wishful thinking and "what if" b.s.and it meaningless
literally ANYONE in ANY sport can say that when they lose: "i could have ..." lol
if he could have he WOULD have as jordan did ROUTINELY
so nah he's not reminding us "he could have done" anything...he's just trying to manufacture more fugazi-ness by barely playing enough games to ATTEMPT to win a scoring title in a very selfish way while his hand picked team flounders
one of the MOST EMBARRASSING seasons in lakers history (again proving he is NOT on jordans level) and this dude is selfishly chasing a scoring title smh rather than trying to win
He's scoring/making shots up until the forth quarter, when they need him to make shots to
hold or take a lead.
Hmmm bc he’s 37 and having to carry the scoring load what u think the score would be if he held off until the 4th
LeStat padder. I think he scored 2 points in the 4th quarter last game.
@@knowjc35 so if he was a stat padder wouldnt he pad more stats in the 4th to help his stats
@@bmill8780 Then why is he only player weaker teams?? Why did he not play Philly twice and Denver?? Why did he play SAC and Detroit?? BUT sat back out after returning vs Denver… He Made the fake injury so his fans would Defend him… His Tim I LA was a Flop… Other than the Mickey Ring His Other 3 seasons Were FAILURES
@@Azariah-Israel oh so i guess u didnt see his ankle roll and tiuch the floor like everybody else
Would we be having this conversation about MJ or Kobe? Playing but not playing to win?
Exactly.
#🐍Mentality
Did MJ or Kobe ever neglect playing Defence?
They would but y’all bron fans always try to flip the narrative to another player when it don’t got nun to do with them Kobe an mj played freaking defense or atleast attempted he’s chasing stats he gave up on winning Kobe was always shot first a lot same with mj but they played defense when has bron lead the league in shot attempts this the first time an he just so happen to be this bad of defense hmmm strange
@@slatt0016 wizards mj went and challenged young players offensively and defensively. People need to go see the defense he played on vince Carter.
"Who else is going to score" who scored against Mavs and New Orleans when he wasn't playing.
Thank you
Both big Ls
@@bmill8780 they lost whether he plays or not.
@@duaneflanders1819 soooo what’s your point there a bad team
@Anwar Mapp thank u I swear these ppl never played or learned the game… how tf u expect me to make my shots when Lebron is dominating the ball
@12:11 She's low key admitting that it's HARDER to play defense than to score on the offence at his age.....THUS proving that he's not as good as he was in the past on defense....further PROVING that a scoring title when you have the ball 80% of the time as the teams point guard...and still LOSING isn't exactly impressive. Chucking up Logo 3s or only driving into the lane for layups/and 1s looking for calls at the expense of defense and an actual winning percentage ain't making GOAT status decisions. Especially when most of those games are losing huge leads going into the 4th.
Defense is basically 100% effort.
You have to actually "want" to play defense. Lebron clearly has shown little to no effort on the defensive side of the floor all season.
Uhmmm.lebron dnt have 80% of the ball ..thts just false
My thing Joy is, if he's going to give 75 on offense and 25 on defense, don't act like you're mad they're not playing defense and slam the ball down multiple times because they're doing exactly what he's doing. 🤷🏾♂️
Last I checked, they’re getting paid as well. Be a grown man and professional and step up
Joy be killing them I live her the way she shuts them down
I expected this from Ric, but it was unbearable with Acho being illogical as well.
I hope Joy becomes a regular on SFY. Love her takes and her tatas
Amen.
They scored 118 ppints the last match without Lebron. So others can score
Russ also shot the ball very well too
@@jpt00711 which rarely happened
The others might can score but the thing is they are not consistent
This Joy Taylor is really good. Would like to see more of her debating on other shows as well.
boy stop
really good looking she was horrible just making excuses
Kobe would have played Sunday against the nuggets
Keep these three together. Most entertaining.
He dropped 34 against the Jazz when they were actually playing good. He also owned the nuggets and had easier time scoring around Jokich. The mavs game was back to back and the pelicans game was more important. Man got them thinking this is conspiracy
facts. if he didn't suffer any injuries this season he would have missed way less games. we legit saw the ankle roll. Steph been out for longer with that same injury
The more games he plays the harder it is to keep the average up. Learn math, and learn basketball. That’s why he’ll ensure he plays two more games. Hurt or not. He’s going for the scoring title and checked out trying to win. If that’s not the case, then he should sit out the remainder of the season to avoid risking more injury. But we know he won’t. And from now on his game will be to score as much as he can, while playing the minimum numbers of games to qualify.
@@fuddyduddie1205 I will learn math and u learn biology. He started missing games due to injury. He is 37 in year 19 and played more games than Steph, KD, Klay and other players.Y’all crying he playing every game to break Kareem’s record and when he gets hurt and seats y’all cry he trying to win the scoring tittle. 😂
But they won’t make the playoffs and got swept last year 🙄
@@bbginc694 Yea just like Steph curry last season. Bet you you was jazzing all over when he won the scoring tittle
I was just waiting for Joy Taylor to speak 😮💨.
We say “ play defense “ and she says at that age I don’t expect him to be the best defender. Who said best defender? Just give the effort!
So u watch the whole game and don’t see lbj stand in front of anyone and defend or are u blind? Or u talking about the 3 plays a game he don’t run back in transition over a turnover? Or is a player scoring 40 on lbj a game cause of his “no defense” ? He playing hella minutes and giving all the energy for the whole team on offense 9/10 games
Effort where...you must be outta of your mind...this bunch of analyst cant even run for 45mins...You think basketball is played with your mouth? btw if he has injury...they expect him to recover in 24hrs because he is superman....
Is he not a better defender than hmmm trae young luka and most the other elite scorers but they want him to be giannis at age 37
@@moneymoney3235 3 plays a game? Cmon I watch the games and it’s a lot more than a few plays, try half the game
@@bmill8780 what does trae and Luca not playing defense have to do with lebron James?
It’s the sweater for me😍
The Lakers score fine in the games he misses. They don't score 30 points less or any other significant amount less.
Yep!
Exactly.....maybe they shouldnt have let caruso and kcp go 🤷🏿♂️
They just dropped 112 yesterday against the Nuggets.
They can score without Lebron.
Honestly watching the game yesterday, I thought as a team they looked better without Lebron.
I daw more ball movement, Russ actually played great, because he could play his game and wasn't worried about trying to fit in with Lebron.
@@Runforestrun exactly. If that team didnt hAve lebron and thsy just had a healthy AD/westbrook they'd be 7th/8th place
@@Runforestrun Lakers scored 111 with LeBron against the pelicans, that's their season average. They scored 118 against the nuggets not 112.
First time I saw Fox do a ESPN Malika walkabout.
LeBron can't make everybody happy 💯...
Joy Taylor is always so on point!
She's not on point with this she's just making excuses for lebron
The scoring title should be for players on winning teams. The points should actually contribute to a winning record.
Delete your comments tf
Joy is the only one who’s making sense
Lebron isn’t top 10 anymore….top 10 players make the playoffs without another superstar or allstar
By that logic Kobe at 26yo wasn’t top 10 when he averaged 27.6ppg in 2004-05 since his team missed the playoffs.
Tracy McGrady at 24yo wasn’t top 10 when he averaged a league high 28ppg in 2003-04 since his team missed the playoffs.
Allen Iverson at 30yo wasn’t top 10 when he averaged 33ppg in 2005-06 since his team missed the playoffs
Carmelo Anthony at 29yo wasn’t top 10 when he averaged 27.4ppg in no inning 2013-14 since his team missed the playoffs
Those ALL TIME GREATS players are just examples to show you how stupid your statement was.
Bron is calculating. He came back in the game after rolling his ankle to hit a 3 and keep the 10 points streak alive.
Lmao that Hawks game last year where Hill accidentally fell on LeBum's ankle. Then LeBron goes down for like 3 min, and then gets up and hits a corner three to get to 10 points so he can keep that double digit points streak record alive, then exits the game immediately afterwards. The man has no shame 💀💀💀
Joy just don’t get it! Defense is half the game! Half!!!!
Apparently doesn’t get passing and running an actual offensive scheme either
Star players elevate the play of their team mates. They demand others give 110 percent. They willingly carry the load regardless of if their team wins. And they play every game sometimes even when hurt. Example Jordon.
He’s been stat padding all season
Someone tell ric that assists requires made shots 🤣🤣🤣
It's not just the scoring title, it's Kareem's record he's chasing this year. He knows an injury could hit him at any time, so he wants to be able to break Kareem's record next season, not pushing his luck to 2024! That's why last year and this year his 3s shooting has gone way up, his minutes are high and his usage rate is way more and than the 2020 title team and his assists are down. And Joy's argument only holds water if Lebron was playing good defense. But he's not trying on D.
And your argument only hold if LBJ was play in his first 10 season. You realize this man is in his 19th season????? Name a NBA super star, other than LBJ who plays defense after their 15 seasons? Look man appreciate this man brother
@@IrwinLoganSr That’s Another excuse don’t Praise him to the sun and back When he has a good scoring game or they win but blame his teammates when they lose… this is exactly why everyone is wrong thru the fake Narratives and Lies Now💯💯 Lebron is the Most OVERRATED PLAYER IN HISTORY
If Lebron wins the scoring title, all the people will remember is that record of him getting it at age 37. And Lebron knows that. No one will ever remember he did it in the most selfish way. To the point where he never even cared for his team's success and even saying he has the time of his life with a record of 30-41. And of course, bronsexuals would be defending him all the way.
I agree 100%. No one will remember the shennanigans.
If Lebron doesn’t score who’s scoring dj Augustine 😂
They just scored 120 without him. They need defense not more points
@@leadernotafollower296 they also had ad and Russ played one of his best games of the year. Which neither one of those have been a factor for most of the year
@@leadernotafollower296 they actually seem to have a more fluid team offense and distribute points better without Lebron. It would have been interesting to see them gel as a team w/o him. Given more time, they might have been able to have a little success
AD, Westbrook, Malik Monk, Carmelo Anthony, Horton-Tucker can all score.
Once again my point is that ad hasn’t been playing for most of the season. So take out Lebron and ad. The lakers already don’t defend so how will they score enough when they are giving the other team 120-130+ point’s
Ric is turning into Skip. He even has the "Skip Sigh" on point
How is this lady gonna pull up to your own show and whoop you in a debate like this?
Slick Rick the bucher 🤣
How delusional can people be just to not admit a big reason the Lakers lose is because he doesn't play defense.
So why when hes not playing are they losing if its him thats not playing defense
Thank you. Defense Injuries and Russ has been the problem. And Don't Get Me Started on THT and Nunn 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ He's Stealing money from the Lakers.
Not him , you mean they…they don’t play defense!
Exactly! Lebron can't even guard a broom
@@nehsone7491 i can tell u dont watch games been plenty times where he has locked in on defense and played very good he cant sustain that and score he’s 37
Anyone with eyes can see LeBron is stat padding . He's not even trying to play defense .
Here's a thought
Maybe LeBron doesn't give a F what y'all think?
That my be true but what does that have to do with what they are saying? Nothing at all.