Ducati Panigale V4R - The machine race bikes are built from | MCN Review
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- Опубликовано: 28 июл 2023
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I own a 23’ V4R and I also owned a 22’ V4S. I totally agree with every single point on this review. Completely spot on
where'd you get the money
Something illegal Im sure everyone in California is a crook
@@winner1338 I’m very grateful to be able to purchase these cool machines.
@@Ducati_Fratelli tell me how. I want to achieve this too. 🤣
@@winner1338 I work in the tech industry
Neevesy you are too humble your skills are way above us mere mortals! Great review of a dream bike.
Or man up and increase your skills instead of kissing his ass
I could listen to this talk about bike reviews all day long. He has probably rode every performance bike out there. And he is so honest with his reviews. Seems like the kind of bloke who would give you the time of day down the local pub and just chat about bikes.cant say anymore really what a top bloke.
Once again, Michael Neeves demonstrates why he is arguably the best road tester out there. No bragging, no hype, no reading factory specs without really knowing what they mean. So few people out there can even begin to use a bike like this to anywhere near it's potential. Still, it's a wonderful exercise in excess! LOL Ducati riders in Italy preening! Imagine that!
LoL, don't state the obvious. I've made it a requirement before I buy, I watch what Neevesy says.
Absolutely, keepin it real
Try bike world. He’s also great.
Humble, down-to-earth, yet experienced and knowledgeable like no other.
Creep
Go Neevesy. Your no nonsense reviews hit the spot every time. No hype. No bull. Just what everyday riders want to know. 👍
Needed to see it rip more though and hear it more.
Very honest review. Having owned v4s panigale before and now the V4R. I felt that the R changed directions better, and with the right rev range, came out of corners more stable than the v4s. I could get on the power sooner with the R. This is the best feeling panigale IMO yet, again having owned every iteration.
I can't buy a Ducati , but I'm only here for this man's review! He does a superior job from that for sure 👍!!!

Without doubt, your ability to convey the character and performance of bikes like this in a way that is easily understood by ordinary riders like me, is unparalleled. Brilliant stuff...so thank you.
I’m really glad to see this, having watched your original V4R video about a million times. People tend to ignore the power and torque charts when comparing the V4S and V4R, as well as the tech specs noting the same 6% power increase for each model when fitted with the race exhaus. The V4S is actually stronger than the R in low to mid rev ranges. (The headline figure of 240.5 HP for the V4R requires a greater than $500 splash of oil as well as oil changes every few hundred miles.) I think the main differences are the suspension and the way the V4R engine so eagerly spins up to insane revs (just like its 40-plus pound lighter Superleggera V4 brother). It’s very reminiscent of the World SBK version, and I am sure it is very rewarding to ride for those few who can take advantage of all it has to offer. Oh, and then there is that new lightweight dry clutch.
I bought this from Ducati Dubai. Collecting end of the year. Can’t wait!
Thank you Michael for another no nonsense review. It’s so refreshing to me to watch someone with way more skills than I’ve got be completely honest with not only the viewer but himself regarding his ability. Cheers mate
Talk about commitment to the craft. Stayed in his leathers for the post ride wrap up just for the authenticity of it. Proper moto journalist
Its only because he wanted to be in the pants gang after a cold shower 😂
I love your reviews Neevesy, no-nonsense, honest and down to earth. You're also very modest about your abilities 👍.
another great review.... the V4R looks insanely beautiful...
I’ve been to a few European track days the last couple of years and it’s good to see how many Ducati’s are being used compared to a few years ago. Great video Neavsy 🏁
where have you been
i honestly appreciate real reviews! what is an honest review? the average rider who will ride this in the streets, the canyons some track days. But we dont all have the best riding skills. Not all will race these bikes. I love how regular consumers will ride it in traffic and tell you what is like to ride it and really own it
Ive seen Michael ride on track - always modest and such a great journalist for all these years. I dont trust many journos on youtube - been doing a great job for decades Michael - thanks again for all the help over the years. Just wanted you to know that for what its worth.
Amazing review, extremely precised and very well explained, thanks!
Another cracking Neevesy video 👏… how funny is he when he says normal riders like him, he’d flog most of us 💪💪💪
Your new helmet looks fantastic also Neeves! 🍻
Awesome review Sir! Best bike journalist ever! Beautiful bike indeed and worth every penny of that £40k. Wouldn't it be great to see a back to back track test of this with Aprilia's X-Trenta
Thanks for being genuinely honest. 👍🏻
A bike many won’t even see on the road..least of all get to ride! Stunning bike no doubt, but most will just disappear into collections..
I’ve seen quite a few at the track.
Honda hornet, or an exhaust. I think we will go with the Honda thanks. :)
Ducati should have released 2023 model in Alvaro Bautista edition in limited numbers nevertheless I love Panigale V4R ❤
Great review…..i think i will stick to my V4 S for now….its more than enough than my former S1KRR 2018….
It's most definitely beyond my riding skills but i would love to have a go on it and just experience some of it's capabilities. Great video 👍
its capabilities
nice review! thanks!
What a beauty!
I owned a 2019 V4R that i only owned for about 18 months due to a serious medical diagnosis that indicated I would no longer be able to retain my driver's license. thank God the diagnosis turned out to be incorrect. I am considering buying a 2023 R but I don't like the sound that they detuned it with the software mapping. I very much liked the beast that the '19 R was and i like to use my right wrist, my brain and my ass as the throttle map (a former AMA Expert license holder in GP 350cc Road Race). Fyi, i paid $64K for my '19 R with the track kit included.
Since the 899 I been a fan and they are performing.
Thank you!
I’ve just woken up. My wife’s brought me a mug of coffee in bed. I’m watching your review and ride of the V4R. Aside from riding (and owning) one it doesn’t get better than this.
Good to see a fair review never be in my garage but it's nice to see what one can do with a good rider on it not me,, ☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️ from northern Ireland
That engine is a work of art.
230+bhp is absolutely insane when you think about back in the early 2000's when the gsxr 1000 k3 was making around 150bhp at the back wheel and that thing was an absolute missile and would lift the front wheel of the throttle in 3rd gear , and back then the most powerful ducati was no where near how times have changed
Very good because honest review
As great as the reviews of these bikes are in covering the performance; I wish the long term reviews cover reliability and cost of ownership because most if not all Italian bikes have had reliability issues or complex maintenance schedules for the extreme models such as the V4R.
It would be nice to know what you are signing up for in the long term, in my opinion. It is more or at least as important as the performance
V4r is the best base homologation wsbk bike.🏍️🔥
I love this guy.
Best superbike on the market
Those are not the stylema R.🙏🙏 Just the regular stylema, don't know why Ducati put it on the SP but not the V4R
I think the V4R has standard Stylema as the other V4. The Stylema R has a pair of red lines bellow the logo at the pistons.
Neevsey, on your own channel could you explain why having a little flex around the headstock is a good idea please?
This would make for a great first bike
Hi I love the duc there was ne of them on Poole quay this evening fwar
I have a 2021 V2, 2023 V4R and a 2023 V4SP2. Love them all but I am the happiest on the V2 riding around on the streets. Hopefully I'll be good enough to go on the track 1 day and see how I can utilize these track monsters...!
TF bro 🥸
Bro let me ride around the streets in the v4R for you how much you want for it?
Great Review and Probably spot on. I have literally 8% of Neeve's talent so how can I even have an opinion. However is is insane now how bikes are so utterly powerful that we now judge how good they are by actually how capable the electornics are able to reign it all in. So people cream their pants about insane BHP numbers, But in reality the electronics resrict and govern it all anyway. In fact you prbably only actually get this things full beans when in 3rd gear and above at 12,000rpm. Soooooooo unless you're on a runway or a GP circuit with a phenomenally long straight. It's all utterly pointless.
ANYWAY its still cool as all hell.
Would I buy one.... YES
Could i ride it ...... BARELY.
And here I thought it was limited to 500 or something. Such a machine though and great review as always Neevesy.
It should be limited and only available to previous R owners like they used to be but Ducati is so money hungry now they will sell them to any rookie squid with the money or good credit
@@Vforfreedom I guess since they do make money, they don't care so long as people buy these machines. I truly thought it would be limited to 500 or to previous owners like you said.
I guess if people have money, Ducati won't deviate from selling these kind of motorcycles to just about anyone.
@@Vforfreedom Totally disagree. That would encourage collectors and reduce availability for people who actually want to ride them. I’ve no idea why you would think it’s a bad thing to be able to buy one if you have the money. In the Porsche world you have people complaining that those who want to drive a GT product cannot get an allocation to buy one and here we have people complaining that you can buy them…
@@sp00ky1969good point
Michael is spot on our last names aren’t Bagnaia, Zarco, Martin, or Bastanini. We can’t get the best out of the V4R just get a V4S or even a V2 and save the cash.
In India this will be almost $80000 dollars if it will be the same as Us and Europe this will sell crazy in India
we dont' walk around in our underwear because of "preening".. it's just taht we are taught from when we are kids that being naked or almost is a non-issue.. and actually it's a lack of concern. having lived in UK, it's the opposite, people are very worried about what others think.. especially when it comes to bodies. thought id comment as i found that point funny when you mentioned it. great videos as usual
To be fair, it’s usually cold and wet, so walking around half-naked would probably either get you the flu or get you arrested and sectioned.
It would have been nice to have a time review with the better exhaust installed.
We love you.
I need more money dammit! I owned two of Carl Fogarty’s super bikes back in the day I flew to Italy to the course factory and bought them. I wish I still had them!
凄いマシンだ。２２１馬力もあって重さが１９３ｋｇで、ピークパワー時のパワーウェイトレシオ０．８７でモンスターマシンだ。
ダウンフォースユニットも入ってて、技術力がすごい。
They should do a demo track day. How do i know i will like it
Did you feel there was a difference to the 2019? A difference in handling and feel to the V4S? With a lottery win it would be lovely to have one for track use. As pointless for the road as my SP2 though - possibly more so. 😂
Where can I buy this special oil to get the 4hp more for my S1000RR?
Does this one still suffer from pumping on exit? My 19 V4S pumps like a mofo, especially when the shock heats up throughout the day. I have to short shift every corner exit.
Lets not forget Glen Irwin riding this at at the NW200 in 2017 wiping the floor with everyone.
Glenn rode the 1199r (v twin) in '17. 🏍
@@david_new46 I stand corrected 🙂
nice one
I see you have finally seen the light 💡 and got yourself a decent helmet Mr Neeves 😉😬,…..thoughts/comments on it 🤔???
Is he wearing a Shoei?
Who put the tank protector on?
Love Neevesy
I dont watch nature programs without Attenborough, I don’t watch mcn without neavesy 👌🏻
Actually the V4R doesn't have an electronic adjustable suspension due to homologation rules, for the superbike category.
Is this a good beginner bike?
Nice to see race bikes ridden as intended.
How many parts from the R actually end up on the WSBK race bike? 5 to 10? Just about everything is changed by the teams.
Only the chassis and main engine cases remain the same. Other than that everything is completely different from base v4r.
this bike is 50k in my native holland . so how different is this version compared to my 2019 v4s then , ducati made like 7 different versions trough past few years , is this a complete different bike or still basicly the same ?
Huge difference in electronics plus it’s a totally different engine in the R.
Hallo Michael, i suggest a cooperation with Stefano Cordara from RED
remember the days when you bought an R model it was all carbon. Now, you don't even get the after market exhaust ! Daylight robbery !
M1000RR BETTER value for the money at least you get an akra titanium with a huge cat, still better than stock!!and a carbon bodywork,on the Beemer you get what you pay for!!,for suspension no ohlins!!
There is a bike for every rider in every venue. Neevsesy seems to understand. Does he ride dirt bikes?
What's the mpg? If it's too high I may need to go for the Royal Enfield instead. 🤭
Is it better than R1 GYTR for 159.000Eur? :D
Always find it kinda funny that the kind of people who can spend £40k on a bike aren’t (generally) the kinda peeps who can really ride them properly. 😂
Less than 1% of panigales sold are ever taken to a track. 1% of those track toys are actually ridden to their limit. Which is kinda why I want Ducati to build a Hayabusa competitor. Big displacement V4. Huge power and torque. And a straight line monster (where 99% of the Panigales are ridden)
@@larryhouse3776 I’m 99.86% certain that you made those percentages up. I see a lot of Panigale on track. At Brno a couple of weeks ago there was another SP2, two new V4R and a lot of other flavours of Panigale. There was even a Diavel setting respectable times. 😂 The nice thing about the limit being so high on these bikes is you can go pretty fast without having to test the limits, which is confidence inspiring.
It's not their fault they're out making alot of money and don't have all day to ride a uncomfortable sports bike like you might be able to with a less salary :)
Bike testers love to tell you that bikes are too fast/ too much for you, they do it with dirt bikes and fast cars too. How about riding/ driving something that can do everything you want it to do and always have something left?, that's surely not a bad thing and are you meant to try and buy something dialled back to your ability what happens and when your ability increases..
I think the point is that you’re past the speed limit by the time you grab second gear. There’s a lot to be said for riding a slow bike fast versus riding a fast bike slow. I drive an old 964 and much prefer it on the road to my previous 991.2 GTS, which I found boring on the road because it was so capable and fast. The old 964 has about 250hp and is huge fun on the road at sane speeds. Similar for bikes - I have a SportClassic for the road (about 85hp) and it’s great fun - my SP2 is for the track and it’s a lot more fun there than it was on the road.
It’s actually quite a bit slower than the V4S
How so? You are talking straight line speed due to having a smaller engine? Faster or slower should be determined by lap times.
Faster, real riders said that
@@fqeagles21 do you fly the bus or just a wannabe?
@@MrDBramer1 i saw a video of an Italian riders Who competed in a National bike Championship with both bike saying the R Is a lot faster and smoother
So….. I’ve been umming and arrring about finally trading in my 996 for the latest V4 Panigale for riding around roads in the south of France. Nothing since the 996 has really floated my boat, but these latest ones do (mostly cos that exhaust twist by the back wheel no longer looks like bladder…. Yeah I know it’s shallow). But I never track ride. Ignoring money, does one buy the V4s, or the V4r?
Isn't V4R smoother in terms of power delivery than the V4S. Ignoring money, I'd go for the V4R because it's just that machine, for the looks and the performance.
If you've got the money, V4R all day.
@@thedragonofechigo7878 it’s a rather sharp looking bit of kit ain’t it…..
Keep the 996 because you’ll regret not having it like when I sold my aprilia RSV Mille 😪 I want it back badly but only as a weekend bike and have another bike as my daily
@@NudaMan fair point…… I’ve wondered about that
@@alanprice9938 they will only go up in price especially since electric is gonna be the new norm sadly
The only thing I don’t like is the heat! It burns my ass and legs!
Does anyone else not like the white AND silver? How about one or the other
it looks amazing in the flesh, amazing.
Now in this world of expensive sport cars, current top of the line pick up trucks reaching 100,000 dollars prices that Ducati is not as expensive as you think. And it should be that much. You can spend about the same money on a new Harley Davidson trike.
Spot on, i think its awesome value.
You say more capable than the likes of US. I would imagine me to you would be like my fat Chihuahua racing an old greyhound. (Not that you are old), just modest about your ability. Great bike, don’t know can you fully let rip on a bike that expensive - even with all its rider aids. I stick with my S1000RR.
V4-j, please 🤣
If I had the 39 grand for this bike I would be more afraid of riding it at posted speeds on the road than at my personal limit on a track. Imagine a distracted cage driver T--boning you at 30 MPH and totaling the bike.
but who has the money? back in the days I would see ducatis so often it was like any other bike brand, but now even the base and el "cheapo" panigale v2" is a very rare sight to behold on the roads in Sweden. But so are the other new modern superbikes as well :D
Imagine if we got an v4 599cc panigale and being super light. I would be on that in an instant if the price would not be incredibly high that is, which it probably would be.
Just buy an H2R
He always talks about how much they cost.. is that a real performance review? If you cannot ride it to his full potential how you are able to review the performance? You just talk about money. We got it we all have to buy yamaha mt07
He overplays the humble low key authentic reviewer, in reality he is a bmw salesman. People eat up his nonsense like he is the only truthful being to walk the planet. The bike is sick full stop. ( i have the 23 v4r) also have th s1000rr. No comparison. We are so lucky to be able to buy such amazing bikes these days so be grateful and appreachiate the performance. sure some cant use it but who cares there are many who can and do so keep em coming, faster lighter and gorgeous !!
If you got it, you might as well flog it
What clown put the tank pad on 😂
Bargain.
very disappointing review of an amazing bike...
No cold start??!! Neevesy! FAIL
Ducati = fix or repair daily
Just wait until that desmo service comes 😰
Not a very interesting bike.
It's hideous as well
You pair need to go to specsavers.
@@iancharlton5530 I did! And it’s even worse now. Looks like a fat frog with wings. It’s a far cry from the likes of 916, 1098 and gen 1 Panigale.
Compared to the 1098 it looks overstyled. Ducati sport bikes have looked a bit cartoonish over the last few years, in my humble opinion. Nothing wrong with the way it goes, though.
The maintenance and reliability is not there, rather just get a Honda
My 2020 Yamaha XSR 900 "stock" has more torque than this Ducati from idle to 4,000rpm and the same bhp to 6,000rpm. Tell me why I need to buy an overpriced Italian turd when I can have a bespoke Japanese made UJM retro that is the equal up to 6,000rpm. And yes. On public roads I absolutely cap my redline at 6 grand because of the penalties of exceeding 6 grand on public roads on either of these. Cheers.
Lol sure man just go race your XSR900 in WSBK I'm sure you'll clean up.
@@schmuppetify They are both "road bikes" Karen. OK?
@@theaustralianconundrum cool while you're at it call Yamaha and tell them to discontinue the R1 as you've decided it's pointless.
@@schmuppetify I just told you both of them are road bikes. They are NOT BSB, WSBK or Moto GP bikes. In Australia OUR road laws are now at the stage where exceeding the posted limit by 45KM/H is now an immediate arrest and bike/car impound coupled with a massive fine and loss of license for 2 years! Cobber? A 2007 Toyota Camry can do 120mph+ so where does that leave you? Where does it leave any of us? It's called the track. Mine's called THE BEND in South Australia. Where do you choose to exceed 130mph nowadays mate?
@@theaustralianconundrum What are you even talking about? Are you ok?
The 996R/998R, 999R xerox and 1098R were all $40000 as well. So they weren’t worth it?
I used to ride sports bikes what fells like a while ago now. 20 yrs since i got a job where i couldn't afford to loose my licence. These bikes are kinda pointless these days. Roads in the uk are bad at the best of times. Everyone has a dash cam and can report you for whatever you may have done to piss them off and the chance to open up are pretty few and far between. Your better off getting an older 600cc so you can wring its neck a bit than one of these.