I love how everyone thinks they are going to be an explorer. But no one considers who is going to be cleaning the toilets, scrubbing out the sweaty spacesuits or doing the laundry.
Martian settlers may wear clothes that have lots of lead weights sewn in, to preserve bone density and mussel tone, and provide radiation shielding. It would be enough to roughly double your weight, but it would feel like what you weighed on Earth.
Listen guys, I gotta admit as some of you probably agree, it’s kinda bad ass or legendary to be one of a few first to step foot and live there and matter of fact, known as the first human to die on another planet or eventually born as the first Martian? There def won’t be a shortage of people in line to volunteer a 1 way trip. My 2 cents.
No, not me. Mars is just not exciting. I’m not going there just because it is a popular challenge. If you want to see if you’d really like it, get a small RV, some solar panels, lots of bottled water and go live by yourself for six months in the desert. Stay in the RV unless you wear a space like garment with helmet.
One thing I learned is that diversity is a fundamental quality like dna, psychological makeup, talent and skill and not so much ideology. This is important because too often there is an insistence on superficial qualities rather than fundamental as indicators of diversity.
Loud super annoying noises throughout the entire video. Makes it very hard to hear. Tell the editors to make the foreground "music" about 75% to 100% quieter.
There will be no internet available to those who live there due to the latency between earth and mars. For better or worse that will be a major commitment.
The effect of latency can be hidden by effective use of on sight data storage with supercomputers, NASA type funding in massive memory blocks and AI handling the traffic to minimize the sense of backlog most of that would not be very noticeable unless in a direct video or text conversation awaiting immediate responses. Yes, massive cultural or scientific searches might take time but most searches of that nature don't need immediate answers. Direct communication will be the only noticeable hit. Local memory is so cheap the average search might actually ping faster.
@@airplayn How do you think advancements in data storage and AI will impact real-time communication in long-distance scenarios, like space exploration or remote research?
In my opinion before any terraforming attempt it is silly to speculate how we will evolve in other planets. In the future there will be solutions on these issues what the neighboor planets have but our current technology is only enough for data collecting, examining, research and develop. Currently sending oclonists to other planets is silly idea and they eventually will die earlier than you expect. On other hand Venus is a better candidate than Mars due the similar size and gravity. The thick atmosphere if reduced and reused could be useful on Mars or other places also Venus have more gases. Both planets needs first a magnetic field either inside their core reactivate or make space magnets / shields to protect the planets. Venus needs also a speed up rotation, a moon, solar mirrors-shaders. Mars needs thicker atmosphere and change in composition to be breathble. These things could costs few thousands to 10 thousands years but the progress in the end will be worth if you need more living places. Economically there needs rescurces what we here do not have to go and get these. In my opinion first a moon base needs to be done for research purposes and use as mining facility, research facility, spacecraft place. Terraform moon would be tricky but with later tech doable. So my opinion currently we need the technology to even start a terraforming process before any attempt we try to make for colony.
Venus needs more than just solar mirrors and shaders. It needs to lose a great deal of it's current atmosphere. Because of the intense cloud cover on Venus very little of the sun's light makes it down to the surface. The sun isn't what make Venus as hot as it is. It is it's atmosphere. The atmosphere is made up of primarily carbon dioxide and it is very thick. The pressure on the surface is very high. In fact it is this pressure that is behind the heat on Venus' surface. As the thick atmosphere was forming it was compressing all of the atmospheric gasses. It is this compression that is behind the heat on Venus. With the atmosphere being made up of carbon dioxide and it being very thick, the heat on Venus leaks out very slowly to space. While the sun is stripping away the atmosphere to space it appears that Venus is able to replenish the lost gasses of the atmosphere.
@@emuhill I am aware of this maybe forgot to mention because wanted to keep short what the Venus needs. Actually there is 2 way to fix this atmosphere is either push out from the atmosphere with impacts or use some fixation and push the atmosphere into the rocks. The volcanism is maybe still active on Venus and that can replenish the atmosphere. Indeed the high dense atmposhere is the major reason why it is hot with 1-2 atm the surface temperature would be similar (slightly hotter) than Earth. Solar shaders and mirrors currently only could serve as a cool down and shade generators so you can make on Venus a day-night cycle. The atmosphere maybe could be fixated with magnesium but magnesium needs in large quantities and once the fixated carbon in rocks starts leak again then it refill the atmosphere. Introducing magnesium, water or using a large vacuum cleaner ships to absorb atmosphere. These are sadly not current level technologies but in the future maybe doable. In my opinion we must keep the atmosphere just reduce and reuse it on Mars or another celestial bodies. The carbon can be used for various materials and the remaining oxigen, nitrogen could serve a new basis for terraformed atmosphere. Other than this I agree with you and you are right I simply just not wanted to write an essay on what Venus needs. The most important is still the magnetic field so the future atmo will not disappear.
@@sziklamester1244 you are correct, collecting the venus atmosphere and re using it on mars woulk be the most effective way to terraform the two planets at once BUT before that we first will need to found how to reactivate or generate a magnetic shield on mars, whitout this shield any atmosphere would be eventually lost and significan dampers the efforts of terraforming the planet, this should be our primary subject of research all other subjects are secondary
If you do not want to be there, DONT GO! Many people in Europe did not go to be Americans. Same now, and mental cooperation will be absolutely necessary.
@@sirensynapse5603 Oh yes they will. Given a chance to go many, many will. You're just the stay at home in Europe type - there's nothing wrong with that.
I am a US tax payer and I have a lot of advanced research projects going on for the future of humanity in robotics healthcare surgery the exploration of human body environment energy etc I DO NOT wish for the other US tax payers to invest in this worthless goal there is no need to become a Martian where the human body will only suffer and get destroyed
You wouldn’t even be a US tax payer today if it werent for daring, ambitious and curious settlers long long loong time ago. So, thats little bit unfair to say. US tax payers will be just fine, we will go to another place sooner or later, humans have always migrated, no difference this time
While technological advancements might allow for limited exploration or temporary habitation, the complex requirements for long-term sustainability make permanent colonization unlikely. Human biology's dependence on Earth-specific conditions-gravity, breathable atmosphere, water availability, and protection from radiation-means that becoming a truly interplanetary species may remain an unrealistic aspiration.
@greixheanobatain6559, yeah, I agree. No more going outside for a breath of fresh air, going to a beach, or to just sit in the bright sunlight. No animals, trees, no place to get away fora few days on a vacation. The only place to see would be Olympus Mons, which may be on the other side of the planet.
better to just send robot like Wall-E to build factory there until we have the technology to solve Atmosphere and gravity issue there. human can go there and stay only for a while for maintenance of the robot and stay in an artificial gravity centrifuge room/house while there. I don't know, just my opinion.
Natural selection and speciation are things that could eventually take effect if a Mars colony is successful, but what will the *first* Martian residents face?
I like a few of your videos but this has a real lot of silly stuff that I'm amazed you put in there. Turning orange like a carrot. No one is going out in the sun on mars unless there in a space suit. They don't need heavier bones. They just need ones that don't get way lighter.
Yeah can we have all the Trump supporters Elon musk and Donald Trump himself and his family all be the first residents of Mars and get them off this planet please that would be 👍🙏
@airplayn animals pass on desired traits by different means, predominantly by out lasting their competitors. Humans are different. We don't let each other die if we can help it. If all inhabitants survive to reproduce and the offspring also survive, the dominant traits will continue as if on earth. The only way an anti radiation trait to gain any traction is if offspring with the desired trait is more likely to survive long enough to reproduce than others. For example, if there is an increase of failed pregnancies due to radiation, this could lead to traits more resistant to radiation.
@@darrellcherry9172 I have a biology degree and don't need a lecture. My comment was direvted to the skin pigment issue not overall radiation tolerance adaption. if we are never outside without a space suit how is evolutionary pressure going to select for orange radiation resistant skin when the skin is never exposed to the radiation to adapt. Your question is irrelevant and missed my point entirely.
I dont think most people understand evolution. We have essentially stopped evolution in humans. If a human is born with a rare trait better fitted for survival, that human wont have any better chance than the others. Technology was the end of evolution for humans
Speaking of humans on mars I wonder how long it’ll take before humans on mars start ignoring orders coming from earth 🌎 and start demanding independence from earth 🌎 ???
Natural selection will only work if some people don't reproduce. So this means either people dying or else some people artificially being left out, e.g. no-one wanting to take them as a partner because they look really ill. If we have effective modern medicine, and people carry on choosing partners just like they do on Earth, nothing will change. So we need poverty on Mars or some other hardship to find good adaptations. Also bone density and strength will be less on Mars. It will be higher than that required in space, but less than that required on Earth. Whether shortness or tallness would be an advantage, I'm not sure. But tallness would be possible with less muscle and bone mass. Lifting things would be easier (lower gravity), but accelerating things would be just as hard (acceleration is proportional to mass not weight). So digging would be fine with low muscle mass so long as you move slower. So maybe we'd turn into skinny long-limbed but slower-moving creatures.
That would be a Hell Hole. I don't believe they will ever be a Mars colony living on Mars. If they had the technology to make a underground habitat like that movie Saturn 3 it would be awesome. It was a huge underground living space I don't see with today's technology how they could keep a space that big oxygenized. My little sister says it's possible but I dunno 🤔
A suggestion… I’m a 70-year old neuro-diverse person. Send me and my fellow old, weirdos. We’re already adjusted to imminent death and enjoy solitude. I/we will be your lab rats. 🙂👍
If a manned mission to Mars was even to succeed with all it entails of high-risc controlled explosions to propel all the cargo and the people, those people would first off face immense awe. But soon after they would be subjected by a crushing sense of solitude, dislocation and loneliness; _alieness_ and soon after psychological breakdown with almost guaranteed death for all involved. Sorry for the appearant pessimism, but this is something we'll have to come to grips with concerning our move into becoming a spacefaring species: we can not sustain any kind of ex-earth permanent habitation based on rockets being launched from earth. Not on Mars and not on the Moon either. The only real difference between the two is how long will the condition take to develop. We should focus on developing a different means to gain space than by rockets instead of how it is right now with a multitude of space agencies, both private and national, all running each their spaceprogram in competition with eachother. Because all our efforts will come to naught save for teaching us that, if we don't.
The world should switch to a Resource Based Economy to avoid everything that's inhibiting humanity from exceeding in breakthroughs of all kinds. Government budgets are always being slashed. It's all the more untenable with Climate Change. People are struggling with money issues when they could be working on solutions. Some our brightest can't make a budget to save their lives but they are very good at finding solutions to today's ills. An Economic Economy is passé and deserves its place in the history books as part of our shared heritage.
@@Marc_Gagne Totally agreed! In fact, i think we need a bottom-up renovation of our entire way of prerceiving nature, ourselves and ourselves as a part of nature on equal claim if not footing as everything else living on the planet. That's maybe taking the whole thing a notch up in scale, out of proportion and off topic, but still let me add that on that level of perspective, I think we're waking up - of sorts. Certainly there are popular initiatives and movements getting unerwind concerning this subject, some of which carries a lot of both momentum and impact with decisionmakers around the world. So as for the economy aspect of how we conduct ourselves - your points reflects very well what someone expressed, that the best place to go learn about economics is by small professor Squirrel out in the forest. He'll teach you everything worth knowing, from grooming a market to hositle takeover of the competition. Only problem is, he won't teach it in a way, that one can then sit and mouth off in an examination room. It's learning by living in his class😂
Depends, we Just BARELY got the Tech right now to pull it off. BUT Generations 0 to like 6+ or so are INITIALLY gonna have a very dangerous and rough go of it an may VERY well be knowingly going on a 1 way trip even if they ultimately die of old age an having long since left their old Earth lives well behind in the past long ago.
In Kim Stanley Robinson's Mars trilogy (Red Mars, Blue Mars, Green Mars), the crew psychologist asserts that people going to stay on Mars are going to go insane, so, why not just send mad people to begin with.? Some of the characters do. My problem with all this Mars colonization talk is that it's only going to be for a tiny fraction of the ultra rich who could go there (to create some sort of Club Riche escape option). Also, there's an underlying assumption that the human species is too amazing, too precious, too important to face extinction. Heaven forbid! Right? Maybe not. Then there's our history of plundering our planets resources to support an unsustainable ideology of perpetual growth (Capitalism, in other words). This is not sustainable. It's what has prompted global climate change. To keep going on that path, we will need to colonize Mars, and every where else our species can reach, and on and on it will go, even to the dominance over other life forms we might encounter. From what it sounds like, the going-to-Mars idea shows that we, as a species, remain unchanged, psychologically, and will repeat the same mistakes we've been making here. I for one think we should make the necessary changes to ourselves first, and then IF we can do that, the pressure to jump ship and leave ravaged Earth behind won't be as attractive. Explore space by all means. And really understand just how unique and precious Earth is. Knowing that (really knowing that) would prompt us to be better stewards of our home planet. That should be our priority. Earth IS a space ship. It's got everything we will ever need, and it's right under our feet.
I never understand why these costume designers don't add a small fan in the backpack to make the suits look pressurized with only a few PSI so they look less wrinkled to be more realistic? Until humans live without space suits why would their skin adapt? By the time the atmosphere is terraformed for unexposed humans to exist on the surface the radiation would already be mostly absorbed by the atmosphere. And simple powered Faraday cage overalls would suffice. These technical advisers were pretty far off the mark to the point of sounding silly.
generations ..oh c'mon ..we cant keep and advance a space station at all... theoretical science = fairy tales. it helps to bring u good dreams while u sleepin'.thats all
A Mars mission will never happen... No reason to go to a dead planet, and since rocket fuel is still being used, as it was in the 60's, you would have to use almost double the amount for the mission. You would have to protect those rockets from micro meteor hits along the way and then land the payload safely on Mars so you would be able to take off again.
Mars needs a moon. A substantial moon, that will generate tidal forces in the planet, which in turn will generate a magnetic field. This will allow an atmosphere to remain intact on the surface.
So the class system will persist with different colonies of humans. I expect some people will want to live all their lives on a space station and only travel for pleasure. We'll see. If Starship completes all of its tests with so much ease then here we come so much sooner than everyone else. Here comes the evolution.
Sending women to Mars would be a TERRIBLE idea. After men set it up, and technology improves, we can start playing that game. But having people that are roughly 40% physically weaker than men, 18% more prone to neuroticism and negative emotions, and could be impregnated… would be idiotic on Mars.
Scientists have discovered exoplanets that could be habitable. Could developing a transport system that could move at super speed be more feasible than terraforming a planet.
We are nowhere near having the technology to take humans to a habitable exoplanet, they’re many light years away. With mars not only is it *reasonably* accessible but there’s promising plans for terraforming not to mention it’s close enough to have communication and support from earth.
All these Dr's and Phd type of guys are telling us how the human form will end up living on Mars through generations. The fact is we don't know. They don't know. Whats the point if we end up looking like some alien from the old movies. That's gonna go down like a lead ballon if they decide to revisit Earth.
I don't care much... Just send Musk in the first flight there...! It will be a huge step for humanity, so an egomaniac like himself will love the publicity and the radiation will help humanity if it do it's thing...!
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I love how everyone thinks they are going to be an explorer. But no one considers who is going to be cleaning the toilets, scrubbing out the sweaty spacesuits or doing the laundry.
all the politicians who voted on spending trillions of tax payers money will be the ones
Everyone WHO will go there
Oh you will do it yourself. Nobody will wipe your ass.
Get someone from an ethnic minority to do that
Martian settlers may wear clothes that have lots of lead weights sewn in, to preserve bone density and mussel tone, and provide radiation shielding. It would be enough to roughly double your weight, but it would feel like what you weighed on Earth.
Much like prisoners dragging chains and shackles around.
About the pigmentation, it makes no sense. Aren't they going to be wearing spacesuits outside?
Listen guys, I gotta admit as some of you probably agree, it’s kinda bad ass or legendary to be one of a few first to step foot and live there and matter of fact, known as the first human to die on another planet or eventually born as the first Martian? There def won’t be a shortage of people in line to volunteer a 1 way trip. My 2 cents.
I’d happily volunteer
No, not me. Mars is just not exciting. I’m not going there just because it is a popular challenge.
If you want to see if you’d really like it, get a small RV, some solar panels, lots of bottled water and go live by yourself for six months in the desert. Stay in the RV unless you wear a space like garment with helmet.
@@kevinhanley3023 I get it but at that point it’s not camping. There will be bases and stations and water food and oxygen within the bubbles.
@@ragn3852 Yeah, as long as you know you won't be selected.
@@larky368 No no, I am an astrophysicist, and its been a dream my entire life! I would def do it
Never thought I would see so much HATE on a science channel.
Hate?
@@ludwigvanzappa9548 He means rational criticism.
A very expensive death.
My exact thoughts.
They will come back elongated or should I say Elon Gated and need wheelchair ♿️ to move around..😂...
any way death on earth no one will remember his name but atleat death on mars will be recorded in history book with big photo
@@DK-lg7ti trillions of $ well spent imo
Now, that’s funny.
Very VERY well done little documentary.
One thing I learned is that diversity is a fundamental quality like dna, psychological makeup, talent and skill and not so much ideology. This is important because too often there is an insistence on superficial qualities rather than fundamental as indicators of diversity.
Loud super annoying noises throughout the entire video. Makes it very hard to hear. Tell the editors to make the foreground "music" about 75% to 100% quieter.
yeah i cant watch this :')
I always wonder if Martian-born humans will start growing taller given the lower gravity, and if they will ever be able to return to Earth.
There will be no internet available to those who live there due to the latency between earth and mars. For better or worse that will be a major commitment.
Star Link will endeavor to solve that problem.
Deploy satellites around Mars
The effect of latency can be hidden by effective use of on sight data storage with supercomputers, NASA type funding in massive memory blocks and AI handling the traffic to minimize the sense of backlog most of that would not be very noticeable unless in a direct video or text conversation awaiting immediate responses. Yes, massive cultural or scientific searches might take time but most searches of that nature don't need immediate answers. Direct communication will be the only noticeable hit. Local memory is so cheap the average search might actually ping faster.
@@airplayn How do you think advancements in data storage and AI will impact real-time communication in long-distance scenarios, like space exploration or remote research?
@@Marc_Gagne Starlink cannot defy physics.
In my opinion before any terraforming attempt it is silly to speculate how we will evolve in other planets. In the future there will be solutions on these issues what the neighboor planets have but our current technology is only enough for data collecting, examining, research and develop. Currently sending oclonists to other planets is silly idea and they eventually will die earlier than you expect. On other hand Venus is a better candidate than Mars due the similar size and gravity. The thick atmosphere if reduced and reused could be useful on Mars or other places also Venus have more gases. Both planets needs first a magnetic field either inside their core reactivate or make space magnets / shields to protect the planets. Venus needs also a speed up rotation, a moon, solar mirrors-shaders. Mars needs thicker atmosphere and change in composition to be breathble. These things could costs few thousands to 10 thousands years but the progress in the end will be worth if you need more living places. Economically there needs rescurces what we here do not have to go and get these.
In my opinion first a moon base needs to be done for research purposes and use as mining facility, research facility, spacecraft place. Terraform moon would be tricky but with later tech doable. So my opinion currently we need the technology to even start a terraforming process before any attempt we try to make for colony.
Venus needs more than just solar mirrors and shaders. It needs to lose a great deal of it's current atmosphere. Because of the intense cloud cover on Venus very little of the sun's light makes it down to the surface. The sun isn't what make Venus as hot as it is. It is it's atmosphere. The atmosphere is made up of primarily carbon dioxide and it is very thick. The pressure on the surface is very high. In fact it is this pressure that is behind the heat on Venus' surface. As the thick atmosphere was forming it was compressing all of the atmospheric gasses. It is this compression that is behind the heat on Venus. With the atmosphere being made up of carbon dioxide and it being very thick, the heat on Venus leaks out very slowly to space. While the sun is stripping away the atmosphere to space it appears that Venus is able to replenish the lost gasses of the atmosphere.
@@emuhill I am aware of this maybe forgot to mention because wanted to keep short what the Venus needs. Actually there is 2 way to fix this atmosphere is either push out from the atmosphere with impacts or use some fixation and push the atmosphere into the rocks. The volcanism is maybe still active on Venus and that can replenish the atmosphere. Indeed the high dense atmposhere is the major reason why it is hot with 1-2 atm the surface temperature would be similar (slightly hotter) than Earth. Solar shaders and mirrors currently only could serve as a cool down and shade generators so you can make on Venus a day-night cycle.
The atmosphere maybe could be fixated with magnesium but magnesium needs in large quantities and once the fixated carbon in rocks starts leak again then it refill the atmosphere.
Introducing magnesium, water or using a large vacuum cleaner ships to absorb atmosphere. These are sadly not current level technologies but in the future maybe doable. In my opinion we must keep the atmosphere just reduce and reuse it on Mars or another celestial bodies. The carbon can be used for various materials and the remaining oxigen, nitrogen could serve a new basis for terraformed atmosphere.
Other than this I agree with you and you are right I simply just not wanted to write an essay on what Venus needs. The most important is still the magnetic field so the future atmo will not disappear.
@@sziklamester1244 you are correct, collecting the venus atmosphere and re using it on mars woulk be the most effective way to terraform the two planets at once BUT before that we first will need to found how to reactivate or generate a magnetic shield on mars, whitout this shield any atmosphere would be eventually lost and significan dampers the efforts of terraforming the planet, this should be our primary subject of research all other subjects are secondary
EXCELLENT video! I just found this channel. I will subscribe immediately.
Hope in this lifetime I can see humanity on mars. Opt me in! even if it's one way journey.
In my opinion, who’s going there, it’s one way ticket, no back…
On Mars, we’re going to turn into umpa loompas!
If you do not want to be there, DONT GO! Many people in Europe did not go to be Americans. Same now, and mental cooperation will be absolutely necessary.
Don't worry, nobody is going, lol.
We'll see
@@sirensynapse5603 Oh yes they will. Given a chance to go many, many will. You're just the stay at home in Europe type - there's nothing wrong with that.
I am a US tax payer and I have a lot of advanced research projects going on for the future of humanity in robotics healthcare surgery the exploration of human body environment energy etc I DO NOT wish for the other US tax payers to invest in this worthless goal there is no need to become a Martian where the human body will only suffer and get destroyed
We have absolutely zero idea of how Mars gravity will affect humans. We're going to have to wait and see. Until then you're just... guessing.
No worries it won't be happening in our lifetime if ever... It's a waste of money anyway
You wouldn’t even be a US tax payer today if it werent for daring, ambitious and curious settlers long long loong time ago. So, thats little bit unfair to say. US tax payers will be just fine, we will go to another place sooner or later, humans have always migrated, no difference this time
While technological advancements might allow for limited exploration or temporary habitation, the complex requirements for long-term sustainability make permanent colonization unlikely. Human biology's dependence on Earth-specific conditions-gravity, breathable atmosphere, water availability, and protection from radiation-means that becoming a truly interplanetary species may remain an unrealistic aspiration.
@@FLORIDIANMILLIONAIRE Well Elon has built a giant rocket factory - and is intent on settling Mars. Interesting times.
When we get to Mars, we is gonna have to star making babies....
What are those flags? Which countries??
No food/water resources, you die in depression 😂😂😂
@greixheanobatain6559, yeah, I agree. No more going outside for a breath of fresh air, going to a beach, or to just sit in the bright sunlight. No animals, trees, no place to get away fora few days on a vacation. The only place to see would be Olympus Mons, which may be on the other side of the planet.
better to just send robot like Wall-E to build factory there until we have the technology to solve Atmosphere and gravity issue there. human can go there and stay only for a while for maintenance of the robot and stay in an artificial gravity centrifuge room/house while there. I don't know, just my opinion.
Natural selection and speciation are things that could eventually take effect if a Mars colony is successful, but what will the *first* Martian residents face?
Why is there no moon base or camera pointed back at earth?
I like a few of your videos but this has a real lot of silly stuff that I'm amazed you put in there. Turning orange like a carrot. No one is going out in the sun on mars unless there in a space suit. They don't need heavier bones. They just need ones that don't get way lighter.
Yeah can we have all the Trump supporters Elon musk and Donald Trump himself and his family all be the first residents of Mars and get them off this planet please that would be 👍🙏
Why dont we concentrate on teraforming mars before attempting to live there
The gravity will still be too low for human survival.
Sure. It would be simple. Just throw some Earth dirt around and fart a lot and Presto!
The first settlers should be called "MARSLINGS "
Pretty sure we're just going to go with Martians. Pretty sure of that.
Unless these Mars children die before puberty, they're going to pass their genes to their offspring.
They would develop differently on Mars as well, they would be adapted to the gravity of Mars.
your point?
@airplayn animals pass on desired traits by different means, predominantly by out lasting their competitors. Humans are different. We don't let each other die if we can help it. If all inhabitants survive to reproduce and the offspring also survive, the dominant traits will continue as if on earth. The only way an anti radiation trait to gain any traction is if offspring with the desired trait is more likely to survive long enough to reproduce than others. For example, if there is an increase of failed pregnancies due to radiation, this could lead to traits more resistant to radiation.
@@darrellcherry9172 I have a biology degree and don't need a lecture. My comment was direvted to the skin pigment issue not overall radiation tolerance adaption. if we are never outside without a space suit how is evolutionary pressure going to select for orange radiation resistant skin when the skin is never exposed to the radiation to adapt. Your question is irrelevant and missed my point entirely.
I dont think most people understand evolution. We have essentially stopped evolution in humans. If a human is born with a rare trait better fitted for survival, that human wont have any better chance than the others. Technology was the end of evolution for humans
Orange skin? So, Donald Trump is a Martian? Well, that explains a few things.
😂
Hopefully living on Mars will weed out stupid people.
Speaking of humans on mars I wonder how long it’ll take before humans on mars start ignoring orders coming from earth 🌎 and start demanding independence from earth 🌎 ???
How about saving the Earth?
Natural selection will only work if some people don't reproduce. So this means either people dying or else some people artificially being left out, e.g. no-one wanting to take them as a partner because they look really ill. If we have effective modern medicine, and people carry on choosing partners just like they do on Earth, nothing will change. So we need poverty on Mars or some other hardship to find good adaptations. Also bone density and strength will be less on Mars. It will be higher than that required in space, but less than that required on Earth. Whether shortness or tallness would be an advantage, I'm not sure. But tallness would be possible with less muscle and bone mass. Lifting things would be easier (lower gravity), but accelerating things would be just as hard (acceleration is proportional to mass not weight). So digging would be fine with low muscle mass so long as you move slower. So maybe we'd turn into skinny long-limbed but slower-moving creatures.
It was a wonderful documentary about changing the human body on Mars..if human settlement on Mars planet...scientific imaging
That would be a Hell Hole. I don't believe they will ever be a Mars colony living on Mars. If they had the technology to make a underground habitat like that movie Saturn 3 it would be awesome. It was a huge underground living space I don't see with today's technology how they could keep a space that big oxygenized. My little sister says it's possible but I dunno 🤔
A suggestion… I’m a 70-year old neuro-diverse person. Send me and my fellow old, weirdos. We’re already adjusted to imminent death and enjoy solitude. I/we will be your lab rats. 🙂👍
We will first send robots to build the infrastructure before we risk the whole crew dies.
Human evolution might occur if there are thousands of humans living on Mars and over thousands of generations.
If a manned mission to Mars was even to succeed with all it entails of high-risc controlled explosions to propel all the cargo and the people, those people would first off face immense awe. But soon after they would be subjected by a crushing sense of solitude, dislocation and loneliness; _alieness_ and soon after psychological breakdown with almost guaranteed death for all involved. Sorry for the appearant pessimism, but this is something we'll have to come to grips with concerning our move into becoming a spacefaring species: we can not sustain any kind of ex-earth permanent habitation based on rockets being launched from earth. Not on Mars and not on the Moon either. The only real difference between the two is how long will the condition take to develop.
We should focus on developing a different means to gain space than by rockets instead of how it is right now with a multitude of space agencies, both private and national, all running each their spaceprogram in competition with eachother. Because all our efforts will come to naught save for teaching us that, if we don't.
The world should switch to a Resource Based Economy to avoid everything that's inhibiting humanity from exceeding in breakthroughs of all kinds. Government budgets are always being slashed. It's all the more untenable with Climate Change. People are struggling with money issues when they could be working on solutions. Some our brightest can't make a budget to save their lives but they are very good at finding solutions to today's ills. An Economic Economy is passé and deserves its place in the history books as part of our shared heritage.
@@Marc_Gagne Totally agreed! In fact, i think we need a bottom-up renovation of our entire way of prerceiving nature, ourselves and ourselves as a part of nature on equal claim if not footing as everything else living on the planet.
That's maybe taking the whole thing a notch up in scale, out of proportion and off topic, but still let me add that on that level of perspective, I think we're waking up - of sorts. Certainly there are popular initiatives and movements getting unerwind concerning this subject, some of which carries a lot of both momentum and impact with decisionmakers around the world.
So as for the economy aspect of how we conduct ourselves - your points reflects very well what someone expressed, that the best place to go learn about economics is by small professor Squirrel out in the forest. He'll teach you everything worth knowing, from grooming a market to hositle takeover of the competition. Only problem is, he won't teach it in a way, that one can then sit and mouth off in an examination room. It's learning by living in his class😂
The most subtle problems they will face will be 37% gravity,
and the endless Apollo jokes.
They will cry to comeback.
Better have enough real estate, time and gravesites. Five generations is as far as you can remember backwards and envision it forwards.
Lets send Trump to Mars. His skin is already orange and he has a large head.
A mars mission is a suicide mission with current tech.
Depends, we Just BARELY got the Tech right now to pull it off. BUT Generations 0 to like 6+ or so are INITIALLY gonna have a very dangerous and rough go of it an may VERY well be knowingly going on a 1 way trip even if they ultimately die of old age an having long since left their old Earth lives well behind in the past long ago.
Land tax is high.
In Kim Stanley Robinson's Mars trilogy (Red Mars, Blue Mars, Green Mars), the crew psychologist asserts that people going to stay on Mars are going to go insane, so, why not just send mad people to begin with.? Some of the characters do.
My problem with all this Mars colonization talk is that it's only going to be for a tiny fraction of the ultra rich who could go there (to create some sort of Club Riche escape option).
Also, there's an underlying assumption that the human species is too amazing, too precious, too important to face extinction. Heaven forbid! Right? Maybe not.
Then there's our history of plundering our planets resources to support an unsustainable ideology of perpetual growth (Capitalism, in other words). This is not sustainable. It's what has prompted global climate change. To keep going on that path, we will need to colonize Mars, and every where else our species can reach, and on and on it will go, even to the dominance over other life forms we might encounter.
From what it sounds like, the going-to-Mars idea shows that we, as a species, remain unchanged, psychologically, and will repeat the same mistakes we've been making here.
I for one think we should make the necessary changes to ourselves first, and then IF we can do that, the pressure to jump ship and leave ravaged Earth behind won't be as attractive. Explore space by all means. And really understand just how unique and precious Earth is. Knowing that (really knowing that) would prompt us to be better stewards of our home planet. That should be our priority. Earth IS a space ship. It's got everything we will ever need, and it's right under our feet.
Dont forget the radiation dose you will get on mars 50 times more than on earth and travel in space gives 1000 times more
I never understand why these costume designers don't add a small fan in the backpack to make the suits look pressurized with only a few PSI so they look less wrinkled to be more realistic? Until humans live without space suits why would their skin adapt? By the time the atmosphere is terraformed for unexposed humans to exist on the surface the radiation would already be mostly absorbed by the atmosphere. And simple powered Faraday cage overalls would suffice. These technical advisers were pretty far off the mark to the point of sounding silly.
I won't be cleaning Toilets. I build Plumb, sparky, Computer program, have built car engines, Ive Fixed thing's with problem solve! When can i go?
A Star Trek like system!
Surely humanoid robots and AI will play a very substantial part. So much so I think this video is invalid. Nice music though.
Why go to mars? We can't even look after our own planet.
Thats exactly why. We need two planets. Don’t put all your eggs in one basket.
Big headed, dense and orange. This is all starting to sound eerily familiar.
All that is missing is the white hair.
generations ..oh c'mon ..we cant keep and advance a space station at all...
theoretical science = fairy tales. it helps to bring u good dreams while u sleepin'.thats all
Can I send my wife’s cat?
Dumbest idea humanity ever conceived.
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Wtf r u talking about?
Workers be better valuef for sure ... or non existence... robots to the grunt work ... we just do the administration
A Mars mission will never happen... No reason to go to a dead planet, and since rocket fuel is still being used, as it was in the 60's, you would have to use almost double the amount for the mission. You would have to protect those rockets from micro meteor hits along the way and then land the payload safely on Mars so you would be able to take off again.
Elon Musk started reusable rockets that means rocket fuel is recycled.
Literally about to happen lol. The most powerful rocket ever is almost operational, and its fully reusable
Let elon go first its the perfect place for him
Bit thei will weigh less....
Mars needs a moon. A substantial moon, that will generate tidal forces in the planet, which in turn will generate a magnetic field. This will allow an atmosphere to remain intact on the surface.
So the class system will persist with different colonies of humans. I expect some people will want to live all their lives on a space station and only travel for pleasure. We'll see.
If Starship completes all of its tests with so much ease then here we come so much sooner than everyone else. Here comes the evolution.
Death.
Sending women to Mars would be a TERRIBLE idea. After men set it up, and technology improves, we can start playing that game. But having people that are roughly 40% physically weaker than men, 18% more prone to neuroticism and negative emotions, and could be impregnated… would be idiotic on Mars.
Orange skin! Looks like Trump evolved on Mars.
Our money making system has to change to a no money system. Everyone is looked after! Non profit system.
Trumps from Mars
That is vicious slander, sir! If you keep that up you could really offend some nice Martian one day.
That lowers the standards for Martians even if there are none.
Lemme tell you one thing for sure - 99.9999% of ppl would rather choose the WORST place on earth to live over Mars 🤦🏻♂️💀💀💀
99.99% of people would agree that you're an idiot.
None of that will happen! We will visit but never colonize Mars!
According to Leon we were already supposed to be living on Mars. What a fool believes
Tell Elon that if he gets to Mars, make sure he takes a ton of gun balls. Looks like your gonna need them to reconfiger your DNA.
Oh those sneaky DEI people making this video. So we're just supposed to forget that the DEI brain just isn't evolved enough.
Scientists have discovered exoplanets that could be habitable. Could developing a transport system that could move at super speed be more feasible than terraforming a planet.
We are nowhere near having the technology to take humans to a habitable exoplanet, they’re many light years away.
With mars not only is it *reasonably* accessible but there’s promising plans for terraforming not to mention it’s close enough to have communication and support from earth.
The answer to your question is no.
solar radiation. lack of water. so much heat at day. above freezing point at night. lack of food
All these Dr's and Phd type of guys are telling us how the human form will end up living on Mars through generations. The fact is we don't know. They don't know. Whats the point if we end up looking like some alien from the old movies. That's gonna go down like a lead ballon if they decide to revisit Earth.
I don't care much... Just send Musk in the first flight there...! It will be a huge step for humanity, so an egomaniac like himself will love the publicity and the radiation will help humanity if it do it's thing...!
Call Elon for help