8 bit vs 10 bit Color: What's the Difference?
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- There are a lot of misconceptions for what higher bit depth images actually get you, so I thought I would explain it. More bits adds more information to the image so it's usually easier to process video and photos in post and avoiding banding.
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Me: that just bought a 10bit mointor trying to understand why I want it
256 shades of gray
ayyy
+budandbri how about 65536?
+DieEneGozer ;) You got it.
actually it's 254... 0 and 255 are considered black and white.
So yeah.
but since nothing in the world is black nor white(perfect light absorber/reflector) then these are shades of grey BUT WAIT! since your screen can never be 100% calibrated you might never be able to view any shade of grey!
No matter how you calibrate it you can only jump in 1/256 steps of color in each channel so you can never achieve the perfect balance.
+HAWXLEADER yeah but you can make and save a color profile to a usb stick to use on all your monitors if the same brand and model for monitors that allow such
"perfect" is a dream but all being the same offset for each color is possible with some monitors
One of the neatest and most precise videos i've seen. You have a wonderful way of presenting. Thank you for the information!
Great explanation. Well done.
great video but how do I turn my 8 bit monitor into a 10 bit? I was gonna try putting it in the microwave but it won't fit.
poo on it, that worked for me... i think
RUclips supports now 10-Bit HDR :)
great, do you have 10 bit monitor?
@@vladodome any mid range value phone not from Samsung can do hdr.
@@jamesisaac7684 HDR is not equal to bit depth
@@bumlebubbi THANK YOU!
I have 12bit on my tv
I always just go with my common sense and assume its better quality but wow very nice breakdown, im guessing for the average person it doesn’t matter rather than a video/photography editor
...what I want to know is with Ray Tracing heading toward one day actually looking like a genuine real world movie would 8 bit be enough or 10 bit or 12 or is this the next big move for UPGRADES in the distant future for these big rapist companies? My windows says 12 bit on my high end plasma and my ultrawide LG says 10 bit on my RaDEON pRO 8200 GPU which is a BEAST...
i feel so proud every time i spot that a video is 60fps without checking the settings XD
After going from CRT to IPS I instantly saw that "banding" which was missing on CRT. Going from 85-120Hz to 60Hz was less jarring than those things.
First find human color depth of eye. If eye have less than 8 bit depth it don't matter you are using 8 bit or 10 bit eye can't identity difference at all.
What the difference between fake 8 bit FRC (6 bit + 2 bit interpolation) vs true 8 bit? How to know if the monitor is true 8 bit not the 6 bit? Thanks.
The difference between fake 8 bit FRC and native 8 bit color reproduction is that the 6 bit + 2 bit FRC monitor can only natively display true shades of color belonging to the 6 bit color spectrum. However, the FRC allows it to emulate colors in the 8 bit spectrum by flashing two 6 bit colors (say for example color 200 and 202) on each side of an 8 bit color value (in this case 201) fast enough for them to perceptibly blend and give the impression it is showing the true native 8 bit color shade.
Can I just say this is easily the best looking youtube video I've ever seen? Nice to see someone managed to figure out youtube's crazy compression.
I was thinking the same thing. Looks damn good🤌
Well it's easy when not much is happening on screen, but if he was recording a game with tons of action it would fall victim to compression. Impressive for 6 years ago though, I will say that
Very good explanation. Thank you!
2020 still relevant,
I almost forgot to release today's videos lol
XD
+ThioJoeTech *You release a troll video and an informative one at same time*
The troll video gets 8x more views than this one.
RUclips community is so great :D
+Roberto Nome Ikr, its actually pretty sad.
+Roberto Nome I went to the comments to comment something like this. It's really sad how the fake videos get more views. I watch them too because I like the creativity, but I prefer these videos. Somehow a lot of people don't like to learn stuff :/
+ThioJoeTech Please talk about color things cmyk ands rgb and how this connects to these color bits!
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My Sony TV can handle up to 12 bit, it work with 10 bit on my PC.
biggest problem is stupid OEMs with their stupid tricks, I got a monitor that windows detects as being 12 bit depth capable, but switching between 8, 10 and 12 makes absolutely no difference to what I can see, so this is an 8bit panel that accepts higher bit depths and downscales it, similar to chinese led projectors just spraying 1080 all over the damn place to hide the single mention of it being 800x480 native or something useless like that, this sort of practice should be outlawed
I like that he gets to it. There are so many videos where you have six minutes of content and six minutes of goofing' around.
Great video quality. I like the sharpness and color of this video. Could you tell me what camera and lens are you using? and the lighting condition of this video? Based on the reflection from your eyes, I guess you have two lights in from of you ?
Best explanation for 8bit vs 10bit. Thanks so much!
4K and 5K iMacs support 10 bit color on El Capitain
me having 6 bit monitor that suck a ton of banding :(
So why does my 10bit OLED look like trash (atrocious color banding) compared to my old 2015 LED 8bit TV which didn't suffer any color banding?? God this is frustrating.
your own recording is actualy a very good quality i imagine people are asking aobut the camera but i am much more interested about the video format and the program you actualy used to encode the final file befor uploading it to youtube. why im asking is the following. from my experience so far every output i ever tryed on adobe prmiere or media encoder produces a file that supossingly wont get reencoded by youtube after upload (using their eoncoder demanded settings) but producing the same format with all the details like p and b frames stuff like that youtube reencodes the video regardless that it matches all their demands. and here is the catch while they reencode video formats that are produced by other software like lightwave rendering ffmpeg conssole command or vegas video. all those programs end up with a file of a full color range 0-255 while all output of media encoder and premiere produce 15-235 limited color range stuff now .. thats why im interested to learn which format you ended up uploading and which program you used for the final encoding process befor uploading the video. thanks in advance
There is a second caveat - you won't get 10-bit image with just 10-bit monitor - you will need a graphics card that supports 10-bit output too (quadro, firepro) or a capture/playback box that can handle this.
Otherwise you will be pushing 10-bit image through 8-bit card output to 10-bit monitor. This restriction affects only the monitoring signal and not the rendered file output.
Please correct me if i'm wrong.
can we do 16 bpc vs 32 bpc (float)
Lol yeah i actually have a 12bit60hz RGB screen but dose any content actually have 10bit ?
The quality of this video is astounding. I cannot fucking understand how 99% of RUclips content creators with MILLIONS of subscribers don't use a 1080p 60fps camera. Even 720p 60fps is acceptable. 60fps is just beautiful!
perfect video, but still there is an obvious differences in youtube 8/10but comparisons
Good tip is to change the settings on weather channels website with the teal blue back round the bars in the back round is noticeable oddly 8bit has no lines but 12bit does lol! I have a 3-4 year old ELEMENT LED monitor oddly lowering it the color is better. Oddly RX580 AMD software default is 12 with my crappy monitor $90 monitor from WALMART.
Totally learned nothing because those eyes and lips were too beautifully distracting.
my monitor can do 4k60 8 bit RGB or 4k60 10 bit 4:2:2 .... i noticed my wallpaper colour looks so much punchier on the 10 bit... which setting should I be using ?
Hello guys, i have 2 ASUS PB328Q and 1 is connected by mini Display port at my laptop and image is 10bit and its great, and another 1 is connected by HDMI and its imposted like 8 bit and image is worse.... Can somebody tell me iff i connect 2 monitor with Type c or Hdmi maybe 2.0 could i impost 10 bit for better quality of picture?
Just got a 4K HDR Monitor. Things lookin stellar during gaming. Plus RUclips just started HDR support and the few compatible videos I could find look fantastic
99.9% of you have 6bit monitor that emulate 8bit and 75% of you that are rich enought to have 10bit monitor actually have 8bit monitor that flickers between shades to be like 10bit.
Real 10bit monitors cost about 1500$ apple for example does use 8+2 in newly released apple computers
And here we are in 2020 and the vast majority of LED monitors still haven't caught up to that of CRT in terms of black level, white level, grayscale, color gamut, gamma, contrast, and viewing angle. The move from CRT to LED gave up far more than it gained.
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I hate banding. Especially on desktop wallpapers. Ruins so many cool backgrounds.
Is it possible to play games in HDR with a PS4 pro on a 8bit panel?
Samsung KU6000 60" 4K UHD HDR Smart LED LCD TV
Hi. With cameras that save files in 16-bit how will a monitor display all that colors if the highest bit a monitor now is just up to 10-bit? Thank you. God bless, Proverbs 31
Great video. I've made a comparison on HDR10 VS DOLBY VISION for those interested in learning more.
Can someone please tell me if 8 bit will give u better performance ( less input lag faster response time) instead of 10.
Please answer if you know for sure, thanks.
Usjng an xbox one x on a Samsung 32hg70
Calm, unspectacular, informative. Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks.
My Xbox one x says my tv (which isn't hdr) supports 10 bit at 4k 60hz but when I change it from 8 to 10 bit the pictures seems much darker but more vivid should I try to keep it at 10bit so see how I go with it or switch back?
Your shirt is 10 bit.
Thanks for the video, super good!
Let me reattle off a few questions and any answers would be most appreciated
In what ways would 10 bit help with colour grading?
Does it help with dealing with low light situations or alleviating high iso images?
Does 10bit help with making shots look more "cinematic" or for blowing images up to cinema screen size?
Let's say I own a GH4 (which shoots 8bit) and a GH5 (which shoots 10bit) what differences would I see if I shoot side by side and put them through the exact same grading process in post production?
And finally how much of a difference would you see if you wanted a really desaturated look to your image? Would you even really need 10 bit? Basically in what cases would you not require 10 bit or in what cases would 10bit be more of a hindrance?
Thanks in advance for any answers. Great video by the way. Chock full of clear-cut, useful information.
The difference will be none if you exposure the picture in both cameras. Most movies are in 8 bit. The difference and benefit if all in post if you want to adjust the shadows and highlights. Also the benefits is if you record in 4:4:4 color spaces for green screen. Meaning the mode data you have the best you are for the future. Think this way, 8 bit the cake 🎂 is done, 10bit is the ingredients. 8 bit vs 10 bits means nothing if the camera has bad lens and not so great sensors. The bigger the sensor less pixels so less details on the picture, the smaller the pixel more pixels so mother definition on the picture. Learn to film or take photos and 8bit and 10bit will not matter much.
Talk about misleading buyers when companies sell 10 bit monitors and true 10 bit monitors.
You say most monitors are 8 bit. But I read, many older monitors, are in fact 6 bit only .
I can have 12 bit with 120hz or 8bit with 175hz, or 144hz with 10bit. what should I use and why?
Generally you are saying 10bit only good for editing and not for viewing at the current TV capability...
if RUclips compresses the image, why do your 10 but and 8 bit examples look different?
NVIDIA says their geforce doesn't support 10 bit. but I am getting 10 bpc and 12 bpc , is it same as 10 bit or 12 bit ?
Thanks man very useful video
10 and 12 bit monitors have been around for years.. i have two of them.. they are readily available online.. and i bought both mine for $40 ea. stop acting like they are hard to find..
oh ok. that explains how on youtube ambient and other stuff, you get that super gross blocky visible seperate colours
5.64385619 bits shades of gray
A very succinct explanation of the difference between 8bit and 10bit color depths
Question what camera did you shoot this video with
2 bits 4 bits 6 bits a dollar. Great example
2:40 Yeah 8 years later and we finally have relatively *cheaper* 10bit monitors
Is basically more samples of each color or color to make it 100% clear and to understand it quickly.
so only important to working formats for example .raw and not export formats like .jpg for pictures and a .avi for video
this is the first video i see on this channel an you look kinda like techquickie
what about a 6bit? Is a 6bit TV ok to buy/ Watch?
Does 10 bit and 8 bit work the same in photography as in videos? How can you tell what a sony a7siii shoots photos in?
i miss the time he was a computer howtobasic
really on fence to buy sony A7s ii bc its only 8 bit
Here because of the new GoPro11.... 🤷♂
So basically its not important for field-monitoring, only color grading in post-production?
10-bit vs 8-bit on an 8-bit display, the advantage would be less color banding. Just like Dolby Vision 12-bit content, or Sony 14-bit processing on a 10-bit panel. Even less color banding.
on some content you can tell the difference in regular lcd monitor, maybe not as much as the actual 10bit monitor, but you do can tell
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So i googled this but found nothing, what's the future of 10bit? what comes after it? 12/14/16 bit? and who's working on this new color/display technology? what's the limit of the human eye in bits anyway?
So if you don’t plan to Color grade or doing any green screening, then 8-but should be good enough!
Are monitors and phone screens in 2023 still being limited to 8 bit colors?
Wow and I didn't have to listen to 40 mins of nothingness to get the bottom line on bits. Thank you.
aw.. mine does 10bit, but your video is only 8bit :D
HOW TO PRONOUNCE "BIT" IS IT PRONOUNCED "BEET" OR "BID"????????
thnks for this very good explanation
So more bits the better?
256 shades of gray
Then what does it mean 16 bit and 32bit colour =o ?
Thanks, Joe.
What would the bitrate be if I wanted 50 shades of grey?
Why are you so smart?
I think 10 bit video files are also a bit smaller, right?
V clear explanation. Thanks for making this video.
This video is great!! Thank you!!
i guess the KRP-500M as i use has a 10 bit panel because 10bit videos looks really amazing on it.
you can clearly see that the image has alot of more colors in it compared to 8 bit.
So I just watched this whole video not knowing what a Bit is...
Great explanation. Thanks!
Well-broken down! Thank you!
in short the difference isn't worth of paying for.
you insulted me. i have an 10bit panel
GH5 = 10-bit 4:2:2 output. Sony A7R3 = 8-bit MP4 output. Hmmm.
Thank you so much! I love adding pink to my sunset photos but hate those lines it makes. Now I know why!
why i can see the difference in my 6 bit TN panel !!??
This dude is more believable when he makes fake videos.