REVEALED...The Top Secret, Deep Set Neck Tenon Trick
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- Опубликовано: 21 апр 2020
- The other day I was asked to show how we do the transition from where the neck ends and the pickup route begins. It's not really a secret but the process is one of my favorite techniques and I'm happy to share it with y'all. In any case, the deep set neck tenon is a feature that has some real benefits and is something you should look for on a high end guitar.
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Fantastic. We love the details. Thanks Matt.
My pleasure!
You always teach me something in every video , Matt !! Thanks man !!
Glad to hear it!
Would love to see you do , unless you already did one and I missed it, a segment on doing the neck angle/body/ bridge that is the part that always gives me grief. You showed it quickly in one that showed a bunch of necks and bodies done quickly with different bridges but you went fast as to what to look angle wise. I remember you do all your body joints one inch deep and carve the back of tenon with the angle but how deep does neck tenon have to be and getting the angle to different bridges is the part I have trouble with. Thanks in advance. Will drop some cash in the till since have watched a lot of your videos.
Loving the banter with Crimson guys. Both great channels and great folk
Yeah, Ben is a cool dude, it is going to be fun.
You make that look so easy!
I have done it a few times
The video i've been waiting for, thanks! I'll definitely have to make a router sled of some kind since I have no beloved pin router.
Go for it!
Thank you for sharing
My pleasure
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EARTH FIRST... MAKE MARS OUR BITCH!
Thanks for revealing the Top Secret!
Our pleasure!
I used the double sided tape for awhile (trying several different kinds etc) and i didn't think the glue trick would hold, but I had problems with the double sided tape with it not holding sometimes which resulted in ruining my piece, then at other times not being able to separate the pieces (probably because then i was over taping), but finally it was because i would run out when i needed it the most and I can't buy good double sided tape locally. I went to the glue/stick fast way and I have to say, I don't see going back. Works like a champ and i can always find regular tape, thin CA locally and a large can of stick fast accelerator lasts me for 6-8mos. I get it though, to each their own. I'm not pushing it on anyone. Do what works for ya. Love the videos and Thank you for them, i look for them everyday
I made a video about the glue and tape deal myself... just to see it if worked
@@TexasToastGuitars "Building Guitars... Double Stick Tape Sucks"
Great video Matt, can you do a video on how you measure your neck pocket tilt/bridge angle, on that guitar?
Sure thing!
@@TexasToastGuitars I would love to see how the angle is routed and the templates used. Awesome channel guys!
Now that I got my new, (hopefully ) soon to be Beloved duplicator carver thingy, maybe I can try and use it with this with body on one side and stylus following routing template.
I love watching that pin router. I want one bad.
It is a pretty slick tool
Man, if that ointment router ever gives out, we are gonna see a grown man cry! 😂😂
I always wondered how you did that, I assumed it was done separately, but if you have a tight enough neck joint it makes sense to do it this way …. pretty cool !!!
Even if you don't have a super tight neck joint... you can always double stick tape it into the pocket
@@TexasToastGuitars …ok… the thickness of the tape doesn't mess with the final depth of the cut ???? you pocket looked very precise when you were finished…no step between the neck and the body...
Matt that was slicker than Snot on a Doorknob****
I try
Thats great and all but, EBO!
Just Fuckin with you guys!!
Keep save!
Thanks for the videos!
Yeah, I'm not going to finish the EBO
Just fucking with you
I hate routing soooo much. So messy and one slip and you’re done. I use a drill press and an assortment of brad point and Forstner bits then chisels. Nice video and thanks!
Sooo cool likes allways!!!
Thanks Julian
I do it the same way, but with a template and plunge router, since I don’t have a beloved pin router.
Templates and plunge routers kick ass
Sweet! This has been buggin me for ages! I don't have a pin router but I've got an idea what to do now 😉
Glad I could help!
@@TexasToastGuitars without sounding like too much of a kiss ass, Your videos have been an awesome help and have really given me enough knowledge and confidence to get building and have fun doing it! Even today when shit just kept going sideways... Thanks for everything! Wish I was in a position to do patreon but for now my appreciation will have to do! 🤘😜🤘
Great work. Is the slight neck angle achieved by the neck pocket being angled or the back of the neck?
We do the neck, but it's 6 of one half dozen of the other.
@@TexasToastGuitars Thanks.
The pin router is quite cool it looks like a converted vertical arm drill / milling machine, I'm an engineer by trade, what has been the worst duck up compared to a standard router, my worst was when I was routing out one of my solid body Banjos and the depth stop threw its hand in and plunged so deeply into the wood it tore into the work and sent it off like a spiked frizby before I'd got past the letter F... 😂
The pin router was built to be a pin router but I can see how one might think it is a converted contraption... it is old school, just like me.
Hey, I am new, discovered your stuff through the "Start with excellence" guy. Do you have a video of the routing of an angled neck pocket?
Hi Aaron, thanks for watching. I don't know if I do or don't have that video. We generally put the angle on the neck
@@TexasToastGuitars Hmmmm...Ok. I'm at a level of trying to transition from like warmoth assemblies and partscaster mods to doing a build with mdf templates. My goals is a '72 deluxe where you'd be able to switch out between a T-O-M/stoptail, and a Vibramate/B5 with probably the schaller roller bridge in the T-O-M layout. I do not like shims, long story. Using mdf templates, is it easier to angle the neck heel area, the pocket, or recess the bridge?
Bit of numb question but how deep do you cut the pickup cavity?
depends on the pickups p-90s are usually .625 humbuckers are usually .750 with 1 wings
Just wondering if that's a standard les paul shape because your using a full tenon?
No, this is a different neck joint than Gibson uses
Matt and chris need a brew mrs toast!
Maybe after 5:00
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Thanks brougham
Texas Toast Guitars...where we make things slick as you can do! 🤣 😎
That's not even a thing HAHAHA
@@TexasToastGuitars Lmfao! Getting prepared to level and crown frets on both of my inexpensive Silvertone Strat clones. Getting all my tools together, etc...
Anything I should watch out for?
The tenon are screwd or glued??
You can do either or and in fact we do.
Having said that when we screw the necks in we use maple
@@TexasToastGuitars Ok but for my next guitar i want rosewood or mahogany for the neck also.
Damned if you didn't make this look easy.
I have done it one other time
Beloved Pin Router be like, "Just let go! I'll do it myself. Go get a beer and let me work. I don't need your 'HELP' Matt." Then Matt comes back and there's a stack of perfect bodies and a mountain of shavings all around Beloved Pin Router and Matt shamefully gets the broom to clean up.
Can we see the finished product??
You bet, I'll do another video of the finished product
Texas Toast Guitars Thanks Matt
slcker than deer guts on a door knob!
I was going to say whale shit in an ice flow
Slicker than snot on glass...lol
Why not just move the pickup an inch further away from the neck? Tonally it should not make a lot of difference.
How would that be cooler?