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Did you consider that by sealing the cups with tape you're slowly starving the burner of oxygen? The burners need a steady flow of oxygen to create heat. While your tape seals are for sure not perfect, they'll restrict the oxygen flow a lot more than just putting the hand warmer in your pocket.
Your right but as shown they were still producing after the test so I would consider it to be valid as the same top an bottom cup was being used in each test with a before an after temp reading so great job on the content!
Agree 100%. The catalytic heating element is somewhat of a smoldering fire. Fuel, heat and oxygen is required for these little gems to work. Altering the any of the three components will effect the heat output.
Both warmers produce the same amount of heat. What produces the heat is the catalytic burner, and it's the same unit for both warmers. Since the smaller warmer is... Well... Smaller, it'll be warmer too. Also, By putting the warmers in the cups, you're starving them of oxygen and essentially shutting them off, that's why the temperature only rose in the first 4 minutes or so.
I enjoyed watching your experiments....however, the two warmers give off the same amount of heat, the only difference is the amount of time they can sustain the exothermic reaction. The burners are the same, they are both burning fuel at an equal pace and thus giving off the same amount of joules. The smaller one feels hotter to the touch as you said, smaller surface area...which is correct (more heat is retained in the metal since less heat is able to escape to the environment as compared to the bigger one).....the larger one warms the air around it to a higher degree due to a larger surface area (larger SA allows more heat to escape to the environment, which is why the air is warmer and the metal is cooler compared to the smaller one)....but all in all...the joule output rate is equivalent.
Not exactly. Since the small one gets hotter because of less SA to distribute the heat, it also warms the fuel more which would cause the fuel to evaporate faster, possibly providing more fuel to the burner and more heat output. But overall, the tests were very basic and not super exact.
I will buy 1 for my wife today. After this video I decided to buy smaller one . Also it has pink color option. I think 6 hours warm will be enough for daily life
Also as the fuel warms the more easy it is to create the vapor for the converter to oxidized, the little Zippo has less volume of metal to heat, less fuel, it should get hotter quicker. You need to let these go for about an hour, unbagged, then take the temperature. You can accidentally stop the oxidation by thermal shock, say taking them out of the bag in very cold sub zero weather, putting icy hands around the fuel tank.
Thank you for the vid. Ordered 3 of these from Amazon today in advance of winter outdoor competitive shooting season. Also, lighter fluid will whisk that sticker adhesive right off...... ;-)
i`m wondering what is the need if i have to fire it using a normal lighter ,and those lighters doesn't work when you are hunting in the woods in minest 25 degree C
@@dheebb3537 they work wet , cold or higher altitudes. U have to repack the insert though. I see a lot of people in the comments complaint about the functionality of zippo. I find it the most reliable. I live in Canada though always cold here. Butane kinda sucks in the winter. The way I repack mine it always lites first strike and gets over a week of everyday use.
I have a 12 hr zippo I use when fishing...now I light this up at around 3.30am in the morning and fish all day... and it's still putting off heat at 6pm the same night!!... they are well worth the investment if you want toasty fingers...also I have a pocket on my shirt over my heart which I put the zippo in... it warms the blood as it passes through ur veins of ur heart... It really does work!! Ok cheers for now...
If you really want it to warm your body quickly, put the warmer on a pulse point such as the wrist. Blood is closer to the skin and the heat and as it circulates through the body it gets to the extremities faster. Good thought though.
If there's enough space in the gloves I'm sure you could! The mini size would probably be a better option for that. They do get quite warm though. Might be a bit uncomfortable. Especially for longer periods of time.
WARNING! the 6hour zippo is a carbon copy of a Kawasaki hand warmer made in japan in the 80 to early 2000. i will post pictures if you ask me. i find it very strange that zippo stole the exact design and even the head catalyst shape. i bought one of the first zippo hand warmer (12h) in the past and it had another head shape only found in american hand warmer. also note that the japanese invented those catalyst hand warmer in 1922 by a compagny named Hakkin that still sell the true classic hand warmer that everybody copied after.
@@Tidushii that is exactly incorrect. flat black paint actually helps transfer heat, where as chrome reflects it back in(radiant heat). VW used to use black valve covers on the aircooled beetles for this very reason, it allowed heat to pass thru and dissipate. they discouraged chrome covers as they retained heat. that siad i doubt in this small an item it really even matters.
I’ve had 4 Zippo’s. All of them were terrible. They often leak and cause a chemical burn on your thigh if they’re in your pocket. They also stop working randomly while plenty of fuel is still inside. I changed to the Peacock brand and they work flawlessly. The catalizer starts quicker and doesn’t shutoff until it’s out of fuel. The seam where the top and bottom of the tank side meets never leaks. They just work.
It was a royalty free song that was in the old RUclips video editor. When they changed it to the RUclips studio thing, they changed some options and I can't find that anymore.
they both use the same conponents: its like saying "i'll test two 11HP engines....1 has a 1gal fuel tank. 2 has a 2gal fuel tank.....which one produces more HP?!"
It should last a lifetime. They sell replacement burners if they burn out (takes a lot to burn them out.) There isn't really anything else that can go bad on them.
They must have wasted all their tightening on mine lol. If it's too loose, you can give the lid a little squeeze in the middle and it'll grip a little more when you slide it on.
I cringe at all these videos where you hold the flame to the catalyst. You aren’t supposed to do that. Just warm the burner with the flame till you see the ember in it. Direct flame damaged the fibers and reduces the life of the burner.
The instructions only say apply flame to burner for 10 secs. Doesn't specify how. I could see how excessive heat could damage it especially with a torch lighter, but a soft flame lighter for 10 seconds shouldn't be that bad or they should be more specific in their instructions. Then again, maybe they're trying to sell more burners.
I've searched high and low for why my first catalyst and then my replacement one performed so poorly, and I think you are the only person to post the answer. I did what the image on the box and the videos like this said, and had the flame contacting the catalyst. It got black as Ash, and only a small, pea sized portion "worked" to create the reaction, producing mild heat. Then the second time, that once good pea sized portion became black as Ash as I held the flame to it, and it's active "working" area got reduced to a tiny red pepper flakes size, producing no heat whatsoever. I then tried repeatedly to lightly brush the ash off with a q-tip, but it just rips up the catalyst. So you're saying just put the flame to the neck on a good catalyst? Thanks.
Do not waste your time with this product I brought one and a can of zippo fluid after using three quarters of the can the hand warmer will not light and when it does it just goes straight out this product is a waste of time and a waste of money
The only problem is that’s not real world use. How about in a pair of fishing waders in a hand warmer specific pocket on the river in 20 degree Fahrenheit and wind? Get back to me.
Did you consider that by sealing the cups with tape you're slowly starving the burner of oxygen? The burners need a steady flow of oxygen to create heat. While your tape seals are for sure not perfect, they'll restrict the oxygen flow a lot more than just putting the hand warmer in your pocket.
hell of a great point !
Your right but as shown they were still producing after the test so I would consider it to be valid as the same top an bottom cup was being used in each test with a before an after temp reading so great job on the content!
Agree 100%. The catalytic heating element is somewhat of a smoldering fire. Fuel, heat and oxygen is required for these little gems to work. Altering the any of the three components will effect the heat output.
Both warmers produce the same amount of heat. What produces the heat is the catalytic burner, and it's the same unit for both warmers. Since the smaller warmer is... Well... Smaller, it'll be warmer too.
Also, By putting the warmers in the cups, you're starving them of oxygen and essentially shutting them off, that's why the temperature only rose in the first 4 minutes or so.
I enjoyed watching your experiments....however, the two warmers give off the same amount of heat, the only difference is the amount of time they can sustain the exothermic reaction. The burners are the same, they are both burning fuel at an equal pace and thus giving off the same amount of joules. The smaller one feels hotter to the touch as you said, smaller surface area...which is correct (more heat is retained in the metal since less heat is able to escape to the environment as compared to the bigger one).....the larger one warms the air around it to a higher degree due to a larger surface area (larger SA allows more heat to escape to the environment, which is why the air is warmer and the metal is cooler compared to the smaller one)....but all in all...the joule output rate is equivalent.
Not exactly. Since the small one gets hotter because of less SA to distribute the heat, it also warms the fuel more which would cause the fuel to evaporate faster, possibly providing more fuel to the burner and more heat output. But overall, the tests were very basic and not super exact.
@@TromboneCrazyy Thats a good point
I will buy 1 for my wife today. After this video I decided to buy smaller one . Also it has pink color option. I think 6 hours warm will be enough for daily life
So did I
Also as the fuel warms the more easy it is to create the vapor for the converter to oxidized, the little Zippo has less volume of metal to heat, less fuel, it should get hotter quicker. You need to let these go for about an hour, unbagged, then take the temperature. You can accidentally stop the oxidation by thermal shock, say taking them out of the bag in very cold sub zero weather, putting icy hands around the fuel tank.
So how many ml do they take have you measured them later again?
Thank you for making this video. I hope to buy one soon.
$15.50 from Walmart with free shipping RN, go for it!
Why did you fast forward through the park where you measured the capacity of the filler?
So how much fluid did it hold?
13:54. Come one bro.
Thank you for the vid. Ordered 3 of these from Amazon today in advance of winter outdoor competitive shooting season. Also, lighter fluid will whisk that sticker adhesive right off...... ;-)
Jeff Holthus Thanks for the comment! And I don't know why I didn't think of that. I bet it would have made it come right off of there
Nice video man.
You are producing C02, so don’t seal them up in a cup. You also control the heat output by how open or closed the bag is kept.
Producing CO Carbon Monoxide and also using up all of the oxygen O2
thanks for sharing. not a fan of the testing but showed enough to help me make a purchase. the instructions are english and french btw. thanks again!
Hey if they don't get the correct air it will smother down the flame
Zippo customer service says that the capacity of the 12 hr. model is 6.5ml or .22 fl oz.
7:57 i appreciate this measuring part ! but its all fucked up in fast motion ... how much does it hold ? go to 15:05
i`m wondering what is the need if i have to fire it using a normal lighter ,and those lighters doesn't work when you are hunting in the woods in minest 25 degree C
You light them before you go out. They last a very long time with a full fill. Or if you're worried about needing to refill, you could bring matches.
Zippo lighters work in any temp.
@@dheebb3537 they work wet , cold or higher altitudes. U have to repack the insert though. I see a lot of people in the comments complaint about the functionality of zippo. I find it the most reliable. I live in Canada though always cold here. Butane kinda sucks in the winter. The way I repack mine it always lites first strike and gets over a week of everyday use.
I have a hard time getting my one hand warmer to ignite. Any ideas. It has only been used about six times.
How cold is it when you're trying to ignite it?
Do you fill it immediately before you use it or do you leave it filled for a long time beforehand?
I have a 12 hr zippo I use when fishing...now I light this up at around 3.30am in the morning and fish all day... and it's still putting off heat at 6pm the same night!!... they are well worth the investment if you want toasty fingers...also I have a pocket on my shirt over my heart which I put the zippo in... it warms the blood as it passes through ur veins of ur heart... It really does work!! Ok cheers for now...
If you really want it to warm your body quickly, put the warmer on a pulse point such as the wrist. Blood is closer to the skin and the heat and as it circulates through the body it gets to the extremities faster. Good thought though.
@@Lees920 No wonder when I warm my cold hands, my whole body feels warm too.
Can I put them in Palm of gloves?
If there's enough space in the gloves I'm sure you could! The mini size would probably be a better option for that. They do get quite warm though. Might be a bit uncomfortable. Especially for longer periods of time.
Hello, I don't understand the language. I have the product but I lost the measurement, how many ml are for 12 hours, thanks.
20cc.
WARNING! the 6hour zippo is a carbon copy of a Kawasaki hand warmer made in japan in the 80 to early 2000. i will post pictures if you ask me. i find it very strange that zippo stole the exact design and even the head catalyst shape. i bought one of the first zippo hand warmer (12h) in the past and it had another head shape only found in american hand warmer. also note that the japanese invented those catalyst hand warmer in 1922 by a compagny named Hakkin that still sell the true classic hand warmer that everybody copied after.
even the pouch that came with it is the same as the japanese one. i dont know what zippo is thinking.
That's the first time I've heard of this. That's quite interesting
Maybe its possible zippo purchased the rights to use or the company itself ?
@@davidfultz6483 Patents probably ran out
Got one but it keeps going out ended up getting a rechargeable hand warmer
Try it in front hoodie pocket, makes it feel like wearing battery heated clothes but better
I use a regular zippo how warmer
Would there be any temp difference between the silver and black versions???
silver one get's a bit warmer than the other versions for they have a coat of paint restricting the warmth it gives off.
@@Tidushii that is exactly incorrect. flat black paint actually helps transfer heat, where as chrome reflects it back in(radiant heat). VW used to use black valve covers on the aircooled beetles for this very reason, it allowed heat to pass thru and dissipate. they discouraged chrome covers as they retained heat. that siad i doubt in this small an item it really even matters.
9:28 That's what she said.
9:58 That's what she said, again.
11:53 ...and again
I’ve had 4 Zippo’s. All of them were terrible. They often leak and cause a chemical burn on your thigh if they’re in your pocket. They also stop working randomly while plenty of fuel is still inside.
I changed to the Peacock brand and they work flawlessly. The catalizer starts quicker and doesn’t shutoff until it’s out of fuel. The seam where the top and bottom of the tank side meets never leaks. They just work.
Thanks.
What’s the name of the song beginning at 22:33? Thanks
It was a royalty free song that was in the old RUclips video editor. When they changed it to the RUclips studio thing, they changed some options and I can't find that anymore.
Sandstorm by Darude
they both use the same conponents: its like saying "i'll test two 11HP engines....1 has a 1gal fuel tank. 2 has a 2gal fuel tank.....which one produces more HP?!"
Ok, you shut off the oxygen supply in your test thus suffocating the flame and inhibiting the warmer from doing its job. Bad test.
true
Just squeeze the cap it will snug right up
Would anybody know, or maybe tell me it's life expectancy? Is it meant to last a lifetime? Or does it shit out after a few years?
It should last a lifetime. They sell replacement burners if they burn out (takes a lot to burn them out.) There isn't really anything else that can go bad on them.
@@TromboneCrazyy dude I just bought one because of your video. Thanks, that's helpful. I like when items last.
Okay
The Whitby Warmer is the best.
Do the Handwarmers smell any
They are not odorless. But the smell is minimal.
Gets hotter without the bag
Cap doesn't fit snugly? "Bent cap smaller with fingers fits snug now"
Looks like to me, there is 2 minute of oxygen in your cups with the large warmer and 4 minutes with the small one.
you put it out with no air flow
thats funny, my 6 hour was loose
They must have wasted all their tightening on mine lol. If it's too loose, you can give the lid a little squeeze in the middle and it'll grip a little more when you slide it on.
I cringe at all these videos where you hold the flame to the catalyst. You aren’t supposed to do that. Just warm the burner with the flame till you see the ember in it. Direct flame damaged the fibers and reduces the life of the burner.
The instructions only say apply flame to burner for 10 secs. Doesn't specify how. I could see how excessive heat could damage it especially with a torch lighter, but a soft flame lighter for 10 seconds shouldn't be that bad or they should be more specific in their instructions. Then again, maybe they're trying to sell more burners.
I've searched high and low for why my first catalyst and then my replacement one performed so poorly, and I think you are the only person to post the answer. I did what the image on the box and the videos like this said, and had the flame contacting the catalyst. It got black as Ash, and only a small, pea sized portion "worked" to create the reaction, producing mild heat. Then the second time, that once good pea sized portion became black as Ash as I held the flame to it, and it's active "working" area got reduced to a tiny red pepper flakes size, producing no heat whatsoever. I then tried repeatedly to lightly brush the ash off with a q-tip, but it just rips up the catalyst. So you're saying just put the flame to the neck on a good catalyst? Thanks.
All great but these units of measurement... "metric system", please, it's not that difficult: 1-10-100-1K etc ...
I agree. Sadly it's still common practice in the US. I guess if I'm still doing it of my own free will that I'm part of the problem...
😂😂😂😂😂😌
NO air no heat. On their way OUT. 🔥☁☁
this shit is not good at -20 c they dont work
Do not waste your time with this product I brought one and a can of zippo fluid after using three quarters of the can the hand warmer will not light and when it does it just goes straight out this product is a waste of time and a waste of money
The only problem is that’s not real world use. How about in a pair of fishing waders in a hand warmer specific pocket on the river in 20 degree Fahrenheit and wind? Get back to me.
You have up To 12 hours longevity of function, so simply get it started before you even get out there if you expect it to be cold outside.