I had an electrician install the charger and he said it was fairly straight forward and simple. The only thing he felt was that the splices were not included/ was not of the right size and we had to go get some. Other than that the installation was great. The charger has been working well too. I charged the car a few times and it was good and could get the full 48 amps as the charger has been hardwired. I have not used the app much and have used it only for stopping the charge and it is fairly straight forward and the UI looks good. Have used it for a couple of months now and am very happy with the charger
As Tom pointed out in the video, doing that properly requires torquing to spec. Except that I've been trying to ask eviqo what that torque spec is, through email and through the comments here, since it's not shown in the manual. And after almost a week, they still haven't been able to figure out an answer to that simple question. I'm not very impressed with them.
I bought this unit and installed it myself in my garage as a direct wire in order to get the 48 amps. I love the fast charge and the app is awesome. You set your electric company rates and it tracks how much each charge costs. The cord is super heavy and the hardware it came with is top notch. Seriously, they did not spare anything putting this unit together. I couldn't be more happy and have had mine charging my 2024 Mercedes Benz GLE450e since November of 2023.
Bought and EVIQO charger about a month ago to charge my Toyota Rav4 Prime. The charger equipment Toyota gives you worked but would take 12 hours to recharge and the cable, controller box would get very hot in my summertime garage. The GFI (new) it was connected to popped and would not reset. Thinking the excess heat did in the new GFI that has a sensor to auto shut off for lifetime service duty. Anyway, wired up a new 50 amp for the EVIQO, and after plugging in and logging into my wifi, it works perfectly. The EVIQO notifies me at almost the exact same time as the Rav does when starting charging, and completed charging. Which by the way only takes about 2 hours. So awesome. The cables, connections, and the charger do not get hot at all; just a very slight warm sensation to the touch. I'm very happy with the purchase and the performance of the EVIQO charger.
After going through three substandard chargers and doing a lot of research for value and features in a unit, i decided on EVIQO and it is OUTSTANDING!!! And I had ZERO issues connecting the app !!!
I always appreciate these reviews. One thought to offer: I do not like that (as I understand from your review) that the unit has to connect to a corporate server in order to pair with your phone (and network?). It should be able to pair and provide basic remote functions with no internet connection. If the corporate server should go down for any reason (temporary or permanent), would the unit continue to provide full, or even partial functionality? Perhaps you could consider adding a key to this effect to your review and the chargerator evaluation.
Thank you for your comment. The device has a Plug & Charge mode. Once turned on - the EVIPOWER supplies the energy as soon as the connector reaches the car charging port. We've got some clients that don't use the app at all, just Plug & Charge option. As regards the server - we can guarantee its stability but in any event - the unit will continue to provide functionality in all possible cases.
Why won’t EVIQO post the sizes of the spade terminals for the 6 gauge hot wires and the 10 gauge ground? We need to know the hole diameter for these terminal ends and the torque setting on those lugs if we want to hardwire.
Tom love your channel. Would love to borrow a clip of this video around the 8:00 min mark to 8:04 min mark. I will be actually doing the hardwire install video for this charger. Of course, I will give your channel the credit for the clip and a link in the description to this video. Keep on rocking these EV charger videos Tom. 👍
Bought this charger based on your review and have encountered a real frustration. I have my 2023 Ford Mach E set to stop charging at 80%. When the EVIQO charger reaches 80%, the vehicle stops any further charging, but the wall charger does not shut off and continues to suggest charging is taking place and the charge session clock continues to run. The manufacturer stated the following “The EVIPOWER charger, as a level 2 AC charger, aligns with automakers' practices where the battery percentage is not communicated to residential AC chargers. To maintain the 80% charge limit, you need to set it on your car's app. The charger will continue the session until manually stopped or unplugged, even after your car reaches the set limit, as it does not receive battery level information from the vehicle. To end the session, you can use the STOP button on the EVIQO app's main page or manually unplug the connector from the car.” Maybe this is my lack of understanding how charging should work, but having to manually “stop” the wall charger to stop the session is disappointing
Tom: You have been using that 60A breaker as a switch for all of your charger testing. Breakers are designed to trip from over amp draw, not be used as a switch. At some point down the line you might want to consider proactively replacing it.
Nice review as always. I would also give it a small hit because it doesn't install as cleanly as others since it doesn't allow the power to feed directly through the back of the unit.
It's not clear that it's good for any kind of hardwired installation. As Tom says, the right torque is important, and they seem unable to figure out the spec for that.
I think I was one of the first to buy this charger and it really has been the best investment I have made in chargers. Previously, I bought 2 chargers before this one but it is full and exceeded all my expectations. I am fascinated by the App that controls my charge and tells me how much and invested in electricity I really love it, for me it is the best on the market
Installed the unit in My garage three months ago and it has been great. I had no difficulty with the app which has performed flawlessly since the installation. I used the app to reduce the charging level to 6KW rate rather then the 9KW out of the box.. Love it...
Did the cable or the plug get warm or hot during use? Regarding efficiency of electrical transfer into the car, are there chargers that are better at no loss when using at 40 amp output?
Can you do a summary of the 277 volt option on teslas nacs plug? Is that why the manufacturers are taking so long to switch? The on board AC chargers have to change? Does 277 charging work on teslas? Any better than 240?
Tom. How do you mount your chargers on your slat wall without having a million holes in the slat wall. I have an install with concrete wall and want to install a slat wall so I can remove and upgrade charger in future. How do you do it thanks.
@EVIQO I checked out your video on converting to hardwiring, and it made it sound like it comes with a separate whip (short cable with bare wire ends) that you swap in for the 14-50 cord, but Tom's unit didn't seem to come with that. Does it come with that, and if not, what are the specs on the spade lugs to be used? Is there a torque spec for connecting those? Tom mentioned the importance of that but I didn't see the spec in your manual.
Great first product review. I’d give it an extra three points if they allowed you to retrofit a J3400 plug later on when you have one of those inlets‼️ 41:28
@@charliesullivan4304 we will sell the NACS units. Replacing the output cable may be a difficult process for many end users so they might need a licensed electrician for that. The easier way is to use the adaptor.
@@EVIQOthanks for the quick reply. That makes sense. Did you see my other question, about hardwiring? If you sort the comments by new it should show up.
You have tested many chargers, and they all have the same issue: Poor charge cable management. A view of externally mounted charges in my neighborhood shows unkept cables everywhere except nicely coiled as in your test lab. A reel retractor for smaller gauge cables should be possible in warmer regions.. Thoughts ?
Hey Tom. Thanks for all the hard work you do to put these reviews out there. I spent a lot of time watching your videos before deciding on the Volkswagen ID.4 and the Electrify Home HomeStation charger. I have a question regarding EV resale value. Because of the pace of technological development, will existing EVs drop in value faster because the new ones will go farther and charge faster. In other words, will my ID.4 Pro S drop in value quickly because Volkswagen will introduce a version that will go 400 miles and charge in 10 minutes for the same sticker price?
Nice Review!! Already purchased this unit last year to replace/upgrade the Shumacher charger we were using at the time. Huge improvement in charging speed going from 3KW to 9KW. App works great and unit is well built. Agree with your comments on warrantee as this unit is well built, EVIQO should default to 3-year warrantee and offer 5 years for a small fee if users think they want it.
Hi Tom looks like you can charge your F150 Lighting on Tesla Super Chargers now how about trying the A2Z adapter to see if it works ok I have one on order hopefully it works
Tom, have you tested/reviewed the Ford “Connected Charge Station” 48 amp hard wired device used for Mach e? This is the little brother to the larger hard wired device used for the F150. I’d like to hear your thoughts on this device if you have some experience with it. I wonder if it plays better with the Ford apps than third party equipment? This is all new to me. I’m still debating with myself on whether to go EV or not. Thank you Tom.
Since Tesla sells almost 60% of the EVs in the US, I don't understand why all these companies selling chargers sell only with J1772 connectors. Shouldn't Tesla have some competition in the charger space?
this thing is going to be REALLY hard to hard wire. you will have to hook enough wire to it to reach the power source before mounting to the wall.in my case 25 feet of wire.
Hey Tom, great video as always, if you are interested in reviewing a Rivian Wall Charger please feel free to contact me, as I have an extra one. It has not been even been taken out of the box. Please let me know!
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney oh okay, I was just wondering if you don't want to wait for Rivian I have one that you could borrow. I doubt I would need it in the next approximately six months.
It seems to me that EVSE reviews have "plateaued" - either that these devices are reaching a level of maturity, or the vendors are "gaming" Tom's review methods to get high scores. (Like the Olympics gymnasts were getting a lot perfect 10's until the scoring system was changed.) I am wondering whether the review scoring should be modified to avoid companies from "gaming scores" - that's something Tom and his team can look into.
Soooo when the hell is Tesla going to allow non-Teslas to charge at Superchargers? Why is there not set date for this. Why are all the companies silent about this? Why is no courtesy given to auto owners of knowing went they can take trip with peace of mind that they will be able to highspeed charge on their trips?
I was at an EA charger today that had half of its stalls out of order. A woman in a Rivian pulled up and claimed she had a Tesla Supercharger adapter that allow Rivians to charge. I don’t think so. She must be thinking of level 2 AC charging.
I give up on WiFi connected charges. Had two that I could never get to connect. Even being right beside the WiFi source. Couldn’t update or register to get a refund. Terrible company service too for one. I won’t say the name. It wasn’t this company.
Unfortunately, not all the EV chargers brands are perfect. EVIQO stands out as the 5.0-star Amazon rated brand because we stand behind our product and our support team will always be there to help you. We're not just the EVSE manufacturer, we help you to create your individual charging lifestyle. EVIQO is here to restore your trust in Wifi smart EV chargers :) Please contact us and we will allocate a dedicated tech support engineer to personally walk you through the set up process. Our refund policy also works as a clock. If you don't like - you can always make a return. Looking forward to hearing from you!
@@Lorwildrose It's great to hear! Our offer remains in force. If you choose to become EVIQO client - our tech support will personally walk you through the set up process. Phone/video call - any option is available for your convenience.
My experience with this unit has been anything but "good" or even "decent." For starters, support is slow to completely unresponsive unless reminded they haven't updated or responded to me in days. The unit I have randomly goes dark and requires being reset by unplugging and plugging it back in.I was using the 14-50 version as they don't actually sell a hardwired version or even the required parts for one. This is understandable as the connection points are a PITA to find any hardware that is small enough yet able to handle the required load. Additionally, you can't use the existing whip/wire tail and just remove the pronged end because the whip/tail is sized too small to handle 48A (which is stamped/molded into the wiring itself). After a long back and forth with support, who always just recommended the same "just try resetting the unit," and having an electrician come out twice to test and recheck the outlet and swap the breaker, and taking the car in to have it checked, I finally decided to try hardwiring the unit, as I felt like I didn't have anything to lose. Well, what I lost was the ability to reset the unit by simply unplugging it; I now need to trip the breaker to reset it.All this is on top of the fact that the unit came looking used, with "silver #2" written on the face of the unit and the cable slightly worn and pitted. They finally (finally) got to the point, after over 30 days of constant emails and problems, where they decided to send me their return policy. This policy basically states that unless the unit is unused, no returns are allowed. After pointing out that I couldn't have known the issues and that the unit didn't work and support was going to be this bad until I tried using them, they (finally and reluctantly) decided they would RMA the unit (this was last week). But I'm to the point that (a) I don't trust this company or product, and (b) I'm not about to sink any more time and money into trying another "new" unit from them. Don't get me wrong, we've all gotten a DOA drive and had to return or get it replaced, and that's fine, but this whole experience has just been a cluster F. I took a gamble trying out this unit, and I lost.
Are all these smart electronics make using them easier? Maybe! Or is it making people more stupid? I remember when you turn turned something on. And it instantly turned on! Nowadays it's on standby wasting power, so it can turn on instantly. Or it has to think about it. Before it turns on at all. Then if it doesn't you're screwed because it's computerized and costs a fortune to get it fixed. And it cost more to fix it than it's worth. A great example are electric vehicles. We don't need to make things smart. We need to make people smart!
Instant no buy from me. A company that tries to bribe customers for reviews or endorsement is hilariously suspect when it comes to EV chargers. Offering 1 year of warranty for customer pictures is just sketch. Also, intentions targeting a RUclipsr’s scoring system? Ha that’s another red flag. I can appreciate how this could be seen as a catch 22 of how do you design a product but reviewers are not consumers. Look at movie reviews lmao. Not as bad as straight up bribing consumers and probably needs nuance but it’s a major concern and better off erring on the side of caution. Buy literally anything else.
I'd rather have a Tesla Wall Connector. For $50 more, it has twice the warranty, looks much better, and won't need an adapter to avoid becoming obsolete a year from now when most or all other brands of EVs switch to the Tesla/NACS/J3400 connector.
Except unless you actually have a Tesla, you have a CCS based EV. So unless you’re gonna not install a L2 charger for a long time, it doesn’t make sense to not install a CCS version for the time being.
@@ericnewton5720, since J1772 and CCS will no longer be used on most or all new EVs a year from now in favor of NACS, it makes more sense to install equipment with a NACS connector. There are already more EVs in operation with NACS connectors than J1772/CCS connectors. Why install J1772 equipment today when it will become obsolete for your next EV or the next owner of your home? A better investment would be NACS equipment, which would only temporarily require an adapter. The future is NACS no matter what brand of charging equipment you prefer.
@@ericnewton5720 I think he meant Tesla Universal Wall Connector, which can charge both NACS and J-1772 (CCS is only for Level 3 which essentially no one has at home). The universal connector both plans for the future while still accommodating the present.
No it’s not. It’s rated for 42 amps and not for hours on end. 50 amps is nearly 12kW and even 48 amps at 11.2kW will melt that receptacle. It’s been proven in the field. Do not use a NEMA 14-50R and attempt to pump more than 9.6 kW (42 amps) through it.
Right, thus the "50" in the name. But you cannot draw more than 40 amps on a "continous load device" as A V chargers are. You are limited by the "80% rule".
No, not that simple. 14-50 means 50A peak, but US residential code limits that to 40A continuous. Anything where the maximum current could continue for 3 hours or longer would be "continuous" so unless your EVSE has a "shut off for 3 hours after 3 hours charging" then it's a continuous load. Most EVSE with a plug actually don't use conductors in that cable that should support 48A/50A charging.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney And even if someone did make a charger that shut off after 2.5 hours, NEC 625.42 says that it "shall be considered a continuous load" regardless. So the 80% rule always applies.
Bought this charger based on your review and have encountered a real frustration. I have my 2023 Ford Mach E set to stop charging at 80%. When the EVIQO charger reaches 80%, the vehicle stops any further charging, but the wall charger does not shut off and continues to suggest charging is taking place and the charge session clock continues to run. The manufacturer stated the following “The EVIPOWER charger, as a level 2 AC charger, aligns with automakers' practices where the battery percentage is not communicated to residential AC chargers. To maintain the 80% charge limit, you need to set it on your car's app. The charger will continue the session until manually stopped or unplugged, even after your car reaches the set limit, as it does not receive battery level information from the vehicle. To end the session, you can use the STOP button on the EVIQO app's main page or manually unplug the connector from the car.” Maybe this is my lack of understanding how charging would work, but having to manually “stop” the wall charger to stop the session is frustrating.
I had an electrician install the charger and he said it was fairly straight forward and simple. The only thing he felt was that the splices were not included/ was not of the right size and we had to go get some. Other than that the installation was great. The charger has been working well too. I charged the car a few times and it was good and could get the full 48 amps as the charger has been hardwired. I have not used the app much and have used it only for stopping the charge and it is fairly straight forward and the UI looks good. Have used it for a couple of months now and am very happy with the charger
As Tom pointed out in the video, doing that properly requires torquing to spec. Except that I've been trying to ask eviqo what that torque spec is, through email and through the comments here, since it's not shown in the manual. And after almost a week, they still haven't been able to figure out an answer to that simple question. I'm not very impressed with them.
I bought this unit and installed it myself in my garage as a direct wire in order to get the 48 amps. I love the fast charge and the app is awesome. You set your electric company rates and it tracks how much each charge costs. The cord is super heavy and the hardware it came with is top notch. Seriously, they did not spare anything putting this unit together. I couldn't be more happy and have had mine charging my 2024 Mercedes Benz GLE450e since November of 2023.
Any video you recommend? I want to do the exact same. I want this charger
Thanks Tom for giving the country of origin.
I couldn't watch the whole video. Is it China?
@@1970351C2V There are two assembly lines - China and Taiwan. The reviewed device was produces in China
@@1970351C2V We've got 2 assembly lines: China and Taiwan
Bought and EVIQO charger about a month ago to charge my Toyota Rav4 Prime. The charger equipment Toyota gives you worked but would take 12 hours to recharge and the cable, controller box would get very hot in my summertime garage. The GFI (new) it was connected to popped and would not reset. Thinking the excess heat did in the new GFI that has a sensor to auto shut off for lifetime service duty. Anyway, wired up a new 50 amp for the EVIQO, and after plugging in and logging into my wifi, it works perfectly. The EVIQO notifies me at almost the exact same time as the Rav does when starting charging, and completed charging. Which by the way only takes about 2 hours. So awesome. The cables, connections, and the charger do not get hot at all; just a very slight warm sensation to the touch. I'm very happy with the purchase and the performance of the EVIQO charger.
After going through three substandard chargers and doing a lot of research for value and features in a unit, i decided on EVIQO and it is OUTSTANDING!!! And I had ZERO issues connecting the app !!!
I always appreciate these reviews. One thought to offer: I do not like that (as I understand from your review) that the unit has to connect to a corporate server in order to pair with your phone (and network?). It should be able to pair and provide basic remote functions with no internet connection. If the corporate server should go down for any reason (temporary or permanent), would the unit continue to provide full, or even partial functionality? Perhaps you could consider adding a key to this effect to your review and the chargerator evaluation.
Thank you for your comment. The device has a Plug & Charge mode. Once turned on - the EVIPOWER supplies the energy as soon as the connector reaches the car charging port. We've got some clients that don't use the app at all, just Plug & Charge option. As regards the server - we can guarantee its stability but in any event - the unit will continue to provide functionality in all possible cases.
Great tests Tom. Thanks for all you do.
Twice you said it was Wifi connected but all the video shows in BLUETOOTH. Please let us know the actual connectivity. THANKS!
We have had this charger for several months now and it is great. I had two other chargers before that were not so good so I would recommend this one.
I agree with all he said except his issues with the app. I had no issues setting it up and find it very easy to use. Great unit!
Why won’t EVIQO post the sizes of the spade terminals for the 6 gauge hot wires and the 10 gauge ground? We need to know the hole diameter for these terminal ends and the torque setting on those lugs if we want to hardwire.
One important thing is missing in this review. Is it possible to tell the app the starting charge level and then limit the end charge (I.E. 85%)?
Tom love your channel. Would love to borrow a clip of this video around the 8:00 min mark to 8:04 min mark. I will be actually doing the hardwire install video for this charger. Of course, I will give your channel the credit for the clip and a link in the description to this video. Keep on rocking these EV charger videos Tom. 👍
Sure, go ahead!
Bought this charger based on your review and have encountered a real frustration. I have my 2023 Ford Mach E set to stop charging at 80%. When the EVIQO charger reaches 80%, the vehicle stops any further charging, but the wall charger does not shut off and continues to suggest charging is taking place and the charge session clock continues to run. The manufacturer stated the following “The EVIPOWER charger, as a level 2 AC charger, aligns with automakers' practices where the battery percentage is not communicated to residential AC chargers. To maintain the 80% charge limit, you need to set it on your car's app. The charger will continue the session until manually stopped or unplugged, even after your car reaches the set limit, as it does not receive battery level information from the vehicle. To end the session, you can use the STOP button on the EVIQO app's main page or manually unplug the connector from the car.” Maybe this is my lack of understanding how charging should work, but having to manually “stop” the wall charger to stop the session is disappointing
Question: If the switch settings of 0-3 set the maximum voltage that the charger will output, what do the settings from 4-9 do? 🤔
Thank you, David. The values above 3 have the same function as 3
Tom: You have been using that 60A breaker as a switch for all of your charger testing. Breakers are designed to trip from over amp draw, not be used as a switch. At some point down the line you might want to consider proactively replacing it.
It's a new one that was installed a little over a year ago when I did my service upgrade.
Impressive for a first product!
Does the app have an option to export all of the charging data to a CSV or XLSX or other open format?
Nice review as always. I would also give it a small hit because it doesn't install as cleanly as others since it doesn't allow the power to feed directly through the back of the unit.
It's not clear that it's good for any kind of hardwired installation. As Tom says, the right torque is important, and they seem unable to figure out the spec for that.
I think I was one of the first to buy this charger and it really has been the best investment I have made in chargers. Previously, I bought 2 chargers before this one but it is full and exceeded all my expectations. I am fascinated by the App that controls my charge and tells me how much and invested in electricity I really love it, for me it is the best on the market
Installed the unit in My garage three months ago and it has been great. I had no difficulty with the app which has performed flawlessly since the installation. I used the app to reduce the charging level to 6KW rate rather then the 9KW out of the box.. Love it...
Did the cable or the plug get warm or hot during use?
Regarding efficiency of electrical transfer into the car, are there chargers that are better at no loss when using at 40 amp output?
You can check the Energy Star listings. They have data for loss at 30 A. It's not clear that the data is accurate, however.
Can you do a summary of the 277 volt option on teslas nacs plug? Is that why the manufacturers are taking so long to switch? The on board AC chargers have to change? Does 277 charging work on teslas? Any better than 240?
Alex on Autos (EV Buyers Guide) just did a video on this.
@@llaughridgeKind of, but he did he get into the hardware options? It seems like he mostly discussed the technology
Tom. How do you mount your chargers on your slat wall without having a million holes in the slat wall. I have an install with concrete wall and want to install a slat wall so I can remove and upgrade charger in future. How do you do it thanks.
@EVIQO I checked out your video on converting to hardwiring, and it made it sound like it comes with a separate whip (short cable with bare wire ends) that you swap in for the 14-50 cord, but Tom's unit didn't seem to come with that. Does it come with that, and if not, what are the specs on the spade lugs to be used? Is there a torque spec for connecting those? Tom mentioned the importance of that but I didn't see the spec in your manual.
Hi Charlie, thank you for the question, we replied via email. We will also send you some additional information
An update on this. They promised to have that information by Monday, but here it is Thursday night, and they have been unable to answer the question.
@@EVIQOI still haven't gotten an answer.
Can you limit the charger to 24 amps in the app? I have to use an adapter and it's recommended to not exceed 24 amps.
Yes
your new category have added 2 extra points for the charger , so now it has more advantage over other chargers
Great first product review. I’d give it an extra three points if they allowed you to retrofit a J3400 plug later on when you have one of those inlets‼️ 41:28
Gary, we will release the NACS version soon. Thank you for your comment
@@EVIQO will you sell the cables and can you put a NACS cable on the J1772 unit?
@@charliesullivan4304 we will sell the NACS units. Replacing the output cable may be a difficult process for many end users so they might need a licensed electrician for that. The easier way is to use the adaptor.
@@EVIQOthanks for the quick reply. That makes sense. Did you see my other question, about hardwiring? If you sort the comments by new it should show up.
@@charliesullivan4304 Thank you, Charles. We already replied via email. Happy to help!
No safety certificate, not getting my dollars. Glad to see it is certified.
You have tested many chargers, and they all have the same issue: Poor charge cable management. A view of externally mounted charges in my neighborhood shows unkept cables everywhere except nicely coiled as in your test lab. A reel retractor for smaller gauge cables should be possible in warmer regions.. Thoughts ?
Hey Tom. Thanks for all the hard work you do to put these reviews out there. I spent a lot of time watching your videos before deciding on the Volkswagen ID.4 and the Electrify Home HomeStation charger. I have a question regarding EV resale value. Because of the pace of technological development, will existing EVs drop in value faster because the new ones will go farther and charge faster. In other words, will my ID.4 Pro S drop in value quickly because Volkswagen will introduce a version that will go 400 miles and charge in 10 minutes for the same sticker price?
Nice Review!! Already purchased this unit last year to replace/upgrade the Shumacher charger we were using at the time. Huge improvement in charging speed going from 3KW to 9KW. App works great and unit is well built. Agree with your comments on warrantee as this unit is well built, EVIQO should default to 3-year warrantee and offer 5 years for a small fee if users think they want it.
Thank you very much for being with EVIQO. We're in the process of improving our warranty conditions.
They are now offering a 3 year warranty.
Does ford charger comes bigger version. My goodness
It is 80-amp and bi-directional. But yeah, it's pretty big.
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Tom if had had to pick between the EVIQO and Emporia which would you go with? They are both 399.00 right now.
There’s no need for a paper template if you you have the metal wall plate
Hi Tom looks like you can charge your F150 Lighting on Tesla Super Chargers now how about trying the A2Z adapter to see if it works ok I have one on order hopefully it works
I’m sure you have seen Kyle’s podcast with the Ford engineer and his follow up review
Well done Tom!
@stateofcharge Would you recommend this over the Emporia?
I bought it 2 months ago. Really worth it!
They are both very good. The Emporia has some advantages besides the better warranty if you want to monitor your home energy or pair with solar.
So what is your five top ranked chargers is? Would be nice to know. Thank you.
That video will be up in March
Tom, have you tested/reviewed the Ford “Connected Charge Station” 48 amp hard wired device used for Mach e? This is the little brother to the larger hard wired device used for the F150. I’d like to hear your thoughts on this device if you have some experience with it. I wonder if it plays better with the Ford apps than third party equipment? This is all new to me. I’m still debating with myself on whether to go EV or not. Thank you Tom.
Smart charger reviews need to add a category for communicating with solar.
This seems _really_ solid for the price.
Good review 👍
Such a nice video! Appreciate your transparency! Hit that subscribe button, you know :) Looking forward to checking out new reviews
Looks like is comes standard with a 3 year warranty now.
Since Tesla sells almost 60% of the EVs in the US, I don't understand why all these companies selling chargers sell only with J1772 connectors. Shouldn't Tesla have some competition in the charger space?
Great review, try a little talcum powder on that stubborn connector cover. Thanks.
this thing is going to be REALLY hard to hard wire. you will have to hook enough wire to it to reach the power source before mounting to the wall.in my case 25 feet of wire.
Nice video! You said you already had the NEMA 14-50 outlet but didn't geek out on the outlet itself. Is it an industrial grade outlet?
CCS has a short run in the US. Starting next year these EVSE vendors will have to offer J3400.
To be clear, this isn't the CCS, it's J1772. The CCS (combined charging system) is for DC charging and this is AC charging.
Ahh It's pronounced EV CO... I wondered how to say that. I was wanting to call it EV IQ like all single letters, but then there was that extra O 😂
Yes, we're EVIQO :) EVIQO stands for Electric Vehicle IQ Organization because we're data-driven and our devices are smart
Hey Tom, great video as always, if you are interested in reviewing a Rivian Wall Charger please feel free to contact me, as I have an extra one. It has not been even been taken out of the box. Please let me know!
Rivian promised to send me one but hasn't yet. It is on my list to do
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney oh okay, I was just wondering if you don't want to wait for Rivian I have one that you could borrow. I doubt I would need it in the next approximately six months.
It seems to me that EVSE reviews have "plateaued" - either that these devices are reaching a level of maturity, or the vendors are "gaming" Tom's review methods to get high scores. (Like the Olympics gymnasts were getting a lot perfect 10's until the scoring system was changed.)
I am wondering whether the review scoring should be modified to avoid companies from "gaming scores" - that's something Tom and his team can look into.
Soooo when the hell is Tesla going to allow non-Teslas to charge at Superchargers? Why is there not set date for this. Why are all the companies silent about this? Why is no courtesy given to auto owners of knowing went they can take trip with peace of mind that they will be able to highspeed charge on their trips?
I can't say when, but watch this channel closely. 😉
VERY closely...
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Yes I will thanks.
@@BTSflyer very, very closely 😎
I was at an EA charger today that had half of its stalls out of order. A woman in a Rivian pulled up and claimed she had a Tesla Supercharger adapter that allow Rivians to charge. I don’t think so. She must be thinking of level 2 AC charging.
I give up on WiFi connected charges. Had two that I could never get to connect. Even being right beside the WiFi source. Couldn’t update or register to get a refund. Terrible company service too for one. I won’t say the name. It wasn’t this company.
Unfortunately, not all the EV chargers brands are perfect. EVIQO stands out as the 5.0-star Amazon rated brand because we stand behind our product and our support team will always be there to help you. We're not just the EVSE manufacturer, we help you to create your individual charging lifestyle. EVIQO is here to restore your trust in Wifi smart EV chargers :) Please contact us and we will allocate a dedicated tech support engineer to personally walk you through the set up process. Our refund policy also works as a clock. If you don't like - you can always make a return. Looking forward to hearing from you!
@@EVIQO it wasn’t one of these.
@@Lorwildrose It's great to hear! Our offer remains in force. If you choose to become EVIQO client - our tech support will personally walk you through the set up process. Phone/video call - any option is available for your convenience.
My experience with this unit has been anything but "good" or even "decent." For starters, support is slow to completely unresponsive unless reminded they haven't updated or responded to me in days.
The unit I have randomly goes dark and requires being reset by unplugging and plugging it back in.I was using the 14-50 version as they don't actually sell a hardwired version or even the required parts for one. This is understandable as the connection points are a PITA to find any hardware that is small enough yet able to handle the required load. Additionally, you can't use the existing whip/wire tail and just remove the pronged end because the whip/tail is sized too small to handle 48A (which is stamped/molded into the wiring itself).
After a long back and forth with support, who always just recommended the same "just try resetting the unit," and having an electrician come out twice to test and recheck the outlet and swap the breaker, and taking the car in to have it checked, I finally decided to try hardwiring the unit, as I felt like I didn't have anything to lose. Well, what I lost was the ability to reset the unit by simply unplugging it; I now need to trip the breaker to reset it.All this is on top of the fact that the unit came looking used, with "silver #2" written on the face of the unit and the cable slightly worn and pitted.
They finally (finally) got to the point, after over 30 days of constant emails and problems, where they decided to send me their return policy. This policy basically states that unless the unit is unused, no returns are allowed. After pointing out that I couldn't have known the issues and that the unit didn't work and support was going to be this bad until I tried using them, they (finally and reluctantly) decided they would RMA the unit (this was last week).
But I'm to the point that (a) I don't trust this company or product, and (b) I'm not about to sink any more time and money into trying another "new" unit from them. Don't get me wrong, we've all gotten a DOA drive and had to return or get it replaced, and that's fine, but this whole experience has just been a cluster F.
I took a gamble trying out this unit, and I lost.
Are all these smart electronics make using them easier? Maybe! Or is it making people more stupid? I remember when you turn turned something on. And it instantly turned on! Nowadays it's on standby wasting power, so it can turn on instantly. Or it has to think about it. Before it turns on at all. Then if it doesn't you're screwed because it's computerized and costs a fortune to get it fixed. And it cost more to fix it than it's worth. A great example are electric vehicles. We don't need to make things smart. We need to make people smart!
Instant no buy from me. A company that tries to bribe customers for reviews or endorsement is hilariously suspect when it comes to EV chargers. Offering 1 year of warranty for customer pictures is just sketch.
Also, intentions targeting a RUclipsr’s scoring system? Ha that’s another red flag. I can appreciate how this could be seen as a catch 22 of how do you design a product but reviewers are not consumers. Look at movie reviews lmao. Not as bad as straight up bribing consumers and probably needs nuance but it’s a major concern and better off erring on the side of caution. Buy literally anything else.
I'd rather have a Tesla Wall Connector. For $50 more, it has twice the warranty, looks much better, and won't need an adapter to avoid becoming obsolete a year from now when most or all other brands of EVs switch to the Tesla/NACS/J3400 connector.
NACS version is under way. Thank you for the comment regarding the warranty. We will improve our warranty policy
Except unless you actually have a Tesla, you have a CCS based EV. So unless you’re gonna not install a L2 charger for a long time, it doesn’t make sense to not install a CCS version for the time being.
@@ericnewton5720, since J1772 and CCS will no longer be used on most or all new EVs a year from now in favor of NACS, it makes more sense to install equipment with a NACS connector. There are already more EVs in operation with NACS connectors than J1772/CCS connectors. Why install J1772 equipment today when it will become obsolete for your next EV or the next owner of your home? A better investment would be NACS equipment, which would only temporarily require an adapter. The future is NACS no matter what brand of charging equipment you prefer.
@@ericnewton5720 all ev vehicle have adopted Tesla charging standard by next year
@@ericnewton5720 I think he meant Tesla Universal Wall Connector, which can charge both NACS and J-1772 (CCS is only for Level 3 which essentially no one has at home). The universal connector both plans for the future while still accommodating the present.
NEMA 14-50 is rated 50 amps.
No it’s not. It’s rated for 42 amps and not for hours on end.
50 amps is nearly 12kW and even 48 amps at 11.2kW will melt that receptacle. It’s been proven in the field.
Do not use a NEMA 14-50R and attempt to pump more than 9.6 kW (42 amps) through it.
Right, thus the "50" in the name. But you cannot draw more than 40 amps on a "continous load device" as A V chargers are. You are limited by the "80% rule".
No, not that simple. 14-50 means 50A peak, but US residential code limits that to 40A continuous. Anything where the maximum current could continue for 3 hours or longer would be "continuous" so unless your EVSE has a "shut off for 3 hours after 3 hours charging" then it's a continuous load. Most EVSE with a plug actually don't use conductors in that cable that should support 48A/50A charging.
@FuncleChuck Correct, and there are currently no EVSE that will shut off after three hours.
@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney And even if someone did make a charger that shut off after 2.5 hours, NEC 625.42 says that it "shall be considered a continuous load" regardless. So the 80% rule always applies.
Bought this charger based on your review and have encountered a real frustration. I have my 2023 Ford Mach E set to stop charging at 80%. When the EVIQO charger reaches 80%, the vehicle stops any further charging, but the wall charger does not shut off and continues to suggest charging is taking place and the charge session clock continues to run. The manufacturer stated the following “The EVIPOWER charger, as a level 2 AC charger, aligns with automakers' practices where the battery percentage is not communicated to residential AC chargers. To maintain the 80% charge limit, you need to set it on your car's app. The charger will continue the session until manually stopped or unplugged, even after your car reaches the set limit, as it does not receive battery level information from the vehicle. To end the session, you can use the STOP button on the EVIQO app's main page or manually unplug the connector from the car.” Maybe this is my lack of understanding how charging would work, but having to manually “stop” the wall charger to stop the session is frustrating.