2023 and still an awesome amount of factual information you spoke on here. Autosound Factory down in Orlando FL stands on the same principles that you speak of and im telling you, the fella Chris that is the mastermind there have stereo systems sounding like crystal clear concerts done right. I'm talking from the low end all the way up to the highs. Gonna have to check you out some day soon. You're talking my kinda stuff.
I had 2 Skar Audio IX-8s in my 02 Maxima and for the power (300RMS total) and the box I had them in.....👌🏽👌🏽 it was good and enough bass for me. Now 2020 I went with 2 IX10s and after 2months of having them I might consider going back to the 8s or a single 12 from Skar....but 8s in my opinion (skars) sound great and go low enough for me and have a great balance. I listen to music, I’m not into competition
Good talk! I’ve had multiple systems 10s, 12s, 15,s nothing like the 8’s I have now, in a well constructed box. Plays everything From low, low,, low to unnecessary high!!!!
Really? I bought a 2021 Mazadaq 3 hatchback and I am thinking on getting an 8..not sure if its too small though...grrr. I like metal though, not hip hop type stuff so I dont need the big booms
@@metaldreams3595 I heard 2 x8s on 1500 watts tuned to 32 hz in a sundown "spec" ported box. My then 13 yo hcca 12 600 rms/1200 max with one bad coil killed those x8s.
Man i recently got 2 6.5in ct sounds tropos on a ac500.1 ct amp and im genuinely impressed at how far audio has come, those things sound like a couple 12's to me lol best budget system ive ever had. And this is coming from someone that used to have nthn smaller than 2 10' or 2 12's at all times, one truck i had 2 12in audiobahn flame series subs in a big ported box with a 1200 hifonics zues amp i believe with 2 10in power bass subs in truck boxes on top of 12 box and a 1000watt hifonics amp in a little s10 extended cab, that thing pounded harder than anything ive ever had lol was fun being a kid with no responsibilities lol maybe one day when the kids move out i can put some real bass back in my ride but for now im pretty damn happy with my 2 6.5in subs and their big ass ported box lol
I wanted Skar vfn 12s but I couldn't find a truck box that was deep enough that would fit under my back seat. I got 2 evl 8s ported qbomb box and a skar SKv2 1500 amp
I'm a fan of DDs 8s I had 2 1508s on a T20001BD and they knocked. Now I have 2 2508s on a M1D for my SUV and recently purchased a T20001BD for my car and this time I'm going with 3 1508s I hope they sound nice. For a while I was running a T015 in a 4cu' box.
Very knowledgeable!! Just earned a sub " no pun intended 😂 But i have a 2016 Mitsubishi outlander . And want to space save as much as i can . What's a nice sub set up . 2 eights box and amp. Combo? Or 1 "12 box and amp combo ? Any tips or suggestions a greatly appreciated ! 🙌🏾🔥
I currently have 2 kicker l7t 12 inch, due to ported box requirements I am considering switching to l7 q class 10 inch. L7t xmax is about 10 mm vs l7 q class 10 inch xmax is about 19 mm. In your opinion will I lose much output?
i wanna pick up 8's hoping i get more of a frequency range vs my skar zvx 12's.. I listen to rock reggae country jazz and my door speakers put out more bass than the zvx with the music i listen too! But if i play rap music it damn near tears my car apart, so i find myself listening to rap even though im not into it that much anymore. would be nice to have something that fits my music taste.. i seen the skar svr's are optimal with a 51hz tuned box so i might have to give those a try.. my zvx is tuned at 31hz
Thank you for this insight! I'm guilty of overpowering my 4 x8's as I've got the scv-6000d on em with a 320 amp alternator and limitless lithium 45ah. Do I need to downsize my amp? I had my box built by cherryman here on RUclips with 2.75 cubes final displacement
MB, I have heard you say distortion is hard to hear in a sub, and in another video about ohms, you said the higher the ohms such as 8 will be clean and distortion free unlike 1 ohm. At what ohm can you hear distortion?
Hmm, perhaps you don’t hear the distortion, perhaps it is lower quality when at a lower ohm rating. So, when could the human ear hear this lower quality in music?
A big part of your explanation that's missing from all of your theoretical equations is box rise. If you are at 300 watts at 5 ohms, you can most certainly run more power if the sun can take more.
I have a skar svr 8” in a skar ported box and I’m going to replace it with a evl 8 since the svr doesn’t sound that good to me. I’m going to continue to use my skar 350watt mono block amp on the evl 8, will there be any issues since the speaker is rated 1200watt max? I don’t know to much of the science of car audio, but I used to have a 15” solobaric on a jl slasher 500 monoblock and that thing would rattle house windows.
Enjoyed this! Currently trying to decide on going with some different 8s in my car but my setup as Is, is pretty good. Wanted some to maybe take some more power and get a tad louder. Currently running 2 Skar ZVX 8s on Skar 2000D in a bad ass box and I’ve hit a 142db. Also have a hatch back so that helps to, Audi Q5.
what tuning do you have the box for the zvx 8's i just bought a 22 corolla hatch and my zvx 12 wont fit in the trunk.. thinking of buying 3 zvx 8's... just wondering if they have more of a full range.. my zvx12 doesnt do so well with my taste of music.. only good for ultra low bass!
I would say high quality sub can outperform low quality 12". I made my bluetooth speaker using high quality 2 x 4 inch woofers + 2 x 6.5 pr's and it gets low to 30hz and pretty much plays similar as my 12' alpine swe1244 sub. Box is also important.
Fixin’ The Coast no as long as you set the amp correctly.. underpowering a sub only hurts if you clipping the amp trying to make it put out more than it can make. As far as the subs well you know they will not reach XMAX on that power, and after impedance rise they will not even see 1k. More is always better when it come to power.... you can always turn down the power, but you can’t turn up if you don’t have it.
Are you serious? Have you ever heard or own X8? They not even in the same performance level. Skar is cheap no tech performance. Basically Alibaba. Really can’t believe you comparing the 2
@@M.B.Enclosures No I haven't. I was asking because I'm doing a four 8 inch subwoofer project and wanted your insight my dear bro I'm not a professional.
So I have two 12-in kicker l7q class subwoofers and I have a cxa 1800.1 to go with them so with all of my electrical being correct that is the perfect setup in the right box?
What you think about CT sounds 8s Was looking at the tropos in a ported enclosure at 32hz maybe 34hz on a ct sounds 1500.1d what's your take on the Ct sounds gear
Hey whats up bro i got a quick question i got 3 10s punch hx2 and 4 8s sundown audio e8 v6 wich one u think will sound better in a chevy tahoe ? Thank u
Massive HIPPO XL 84's absolutely pulverize low end bass.. Best 8" subs are Massive Hippo XL's and Savard Hi-Q 8's, HANDS DOWN.......... resonance and sensitivity are key to a great sub, NOT WATTAGE...... All Sundowns are good for is consuming wattage, not great sound. I had 5 Hippo XL's in the trunk of a Toyota Corolla and tore my car UP..
GameAholics Anonymous I agree that Sundown are notoriously inefficient and capture the market with their ‘larger motors’. But they do sound great and generate serious a SPL. I also agree the Massive Hippos , on prefer the older version over the XL...and for the price point they can’t be beat
I got one of them Hi-Q 8’s that little sub hits the lows nice. Got it hooked up to a ct sounds 500.1 I don’t know if it can take the whole power to the amp so I just got half of it hooked up to it.
@nestor aguirre my son blew it out bro they told me I can send it out to them and have them fix it for like $65 bucks but I said nah I’m waiting for warmer weather and then then and getting the kickerl7R12
@nestor aguirre yeah I did had it for almost two years then let my son borrow my car for three weeks cause he had car problems and blew it out right before getting it back. I played it pretty loud but not for too long and sounded nice and clean. Guessing he over did it now I’m stuck with just door and back speakers till the summer.
Im seriously considering running some 8 inch subs in my 2017 civic sedan, this will be my first 8 inch setup. Have any recommendations on what brand of subs to get?
KICKER Q Class, DD sw2508, Toro Tech Audio Force, DB Drive WDX G5 8’s , Sundown X8v3’s, American Bass Hd844(the old one)...it’s really what you can afford..but KICKER tops them all IMO
@@jerrylaguna990 I would go with 2 Skar Audio IX-8s and throw them in a ground shaker box....and power them with the Skar Audio RP 5channel amp. The civic is a bit smaller then my 02 Maxima. You’ll be happy with the 2 8s....I ran them for 4years
@MBEnclosuresLLC Damn....would like to see this review. I've been literally looking all thru your videos and comments to see if anyone or you would comment on the Memphis Mojo 8' rated at 900rms. I have the factory subwoofer box Memphis Audio MJMECHEV8D1 that I'm using for starters. Going to wire up the Rockford fosgate t1500-1bdcp to it the next chance I get along with the Epicenter..
@@weeman6539 I own the X8v3’s... first video on my channel. Very loud under the right power in correct box. The DD 2508 have more cone area and I wager they sound just as impressive
@@M.B.Enclosures thank you for information. I was going to run the American Bass VFL 8’s but have been tossing ideal about changing and doing the X8 V3’s or 2508’s. Keep up the amazing work my friend loving your post
Carlos Solis The new Crossfire C5 is just the old C7... they did away with the C7 line and just move them over to the C5.. they are beast. I had 2 Crossfire C7 4 years ago and it was louder in my vehicle than the X8v2... don’t know if it can best the X8v3. You should get them or the X8v3... both beast
No disrespect, but next time.. PLEASE stop driving long enough to make your videos. One of these days you could look into the camera for the last time.
My job requires me to talk on a radio, activate lights, actuate different tones as I approach intersections, all while driving much faster than other traffic around me. I think this dude has it well under control. Pay attention to how often your eyes leave the straight ahead position, then preach. Watching his surroundings, and hearing the rpms, this guy isn’t a dangerous driver.
@@Hammerback0 ya, so you're a cop or ambulance driver.. whatever. You may have the training to drive like that, but most people don't. I was just worried for his safety, as well as the safety for others. As you should be too. I hope you're not a cop.. cause that's ficked up advice/ attitude about the subject.
@@M.B.Enclosures 😂. Nope. Hilarious how sensitive that ass is tho. Rarely am I at a loss for words, I've seen and heard a lot of goofy shit in my life, but, this comment left ignorant, dumb, and even stupid in the rear view mirror, and went straight into window licking water head territory with the quickness of someone that just can't mind their own business. Get back to the register, breaks over Corky, and remember, it's pronounced McDonald's, not Mildonalds
2023 and still an awesome amount of factual information you spoke on here. Autosound Factory down in Orlando FL stands on the same principles that you speak of and im telling you, the fella Chris that is the mastermind there have stereo systems sounding like crystal clear concerts done right. I'm talking from the low end all the way up to the highs. Gonna have to check you out some day soon. You're talking my kinda stuff.
I had 2 Skar Audio IX-8s in my 02 Maxima and for the power (300RMS total) and the box I had them in.....👌🏽👌🏽 it was good and enough bass for me. Now 2020 I went with 2 IX10s and after 2months of having them I might consider going back to the 8s or a single 12 from Skar....but 8s in my opinion (skars) sound great and go low enough for me and have a great balance. I listen to music, I’m not into competition
Agree! To the 8 are more punchy.
Good talk! I’ve had multiple systems 10s, 12s, 15,s nothing like the 8’s I have now, in a well constructed box. Plays everything From low, low,, low to unnecessary high!!!!
Really? I bought a 2021 Mazadaq 3 hatchback and I am thinking on getting an 8..not sure if its too small though...grrr. I like metal though, not hip hop type stuff so I dont need the big booms
@@metaldreams3595 I heard 2 x8s on 1500 watts tuned to 32 hz in a sundown "spec" ported box. My then 13 yo hcca 12 600 rms/1200 max with one bad coil killed those x8s.
MBE has taught me more in car audio then anyone else honestly love how in depth he goes
I have the sundown X8 V3 D2 in a Skar ported box with a RF P1000x1BD AND YES the 1 8" does vibrate the side rearview mirrors
Man i recently got 2 6.5in ct sounds tropos on a ac500.1 ct amp and im genuinely impressed at how far audio has come, those things sound like a couple 12's to me lol best budget system ive ever had. And this is coming from someone that used to have nthn smaller than 2 10' or 2 12's at all times, one truck i had 2 12in audiobahn flame series subs in a big ported box with a 1200 hifonics zues amp i believe with 2 10in power bass subs in truck boxes on top of 12 box and a 1000watt hifonics amp in a little s10 extended cab, that thing pounded harder than anything ive ever had lol was fun being a kid with no responsibilities lol maybe one day when the kids move out i can put some real bass back in my ride but for now im pretty damn happy with my 2 6.5in subs and their big ass ported box lol
I wanted Skar vfn 12s but I couldn't find a truck box that was deep enough that would fit under my back seat. I got 2 evl 8s ported qbomb box and a skar SKv2 1500 amp
( 3 ) American bass xd844 in a ported box, in my 2010 camaro. Hits hard and is a great sq setup
I'm a fan of DDs 8s I had 2 1508s on a T20001BD and they knocked. Now I have 2 2508s on a M1D for my SUV and recently purchased a T20001BD for my car and this time I'm going with 3 1508s I hope they sound nice. For a while I was running a T015 in a 4cu' box.
Howard Minkler great man.. hope it does sound good.
@@M.B.Enclosures thank you man, thank you for reminding me about overpowering a sub is a waist of power
I've owned Sundown X 8's, DD 8's, American Bass VFL 8's and now some Hutchinson ETA 8's. If you haven't yet, check out Hutchinson Car Audio.
@@mauricespaulding8462 which one you think is the best and why , I'd like to see my current setup and get one nice high power 8
How did you like them gold 8s from resilient sounds.?
What would sound better/hit harder,3 sdr 8s or 2 sdr 10s from skar,just to keep it simple, up to1200 watts usable
Very knowledgeable!! Just earned a sub " no pun intended 😂
But i have a 2016 Mitsubishi outlander . And want to space save as much as i can . What's a nice sub set up .
2 eights box and amp. Combo?
Or 1 "12 box and amp combo ?
Any tips or suggestions a greatly appreciated ! 🙌🏾🔥
I currently have 2 kicker l7t 12 inch, due to ported box requirements I am considering switching to l7 q class 10 inch. L7t xmax is about 10 mm vs l7 q class 10 inch xmax is about 19 mm. In your opinion will I lose much output?
I have 2 Kicker 43C-104 10 inch-paired with a Skar 1200 mono amp..... They straight BANGGGGGGG💯
i wanna pick up 8's hoping i get more of a frequency range vs my skar zvx 12's.. I listen to rock reggae country jazz and my door speakers put out more bass than the zvx with the music i listen too! But if i play rap music it damn near tears my car apart, so i find myself listening to rap even though im not into it that much anymore. would be nice to have something that fits my music taste.. i seen the skar svr's are optimal with a 51hz tuned box so i might have to give those a try.. my zvx is tuned at 31hz
Thank you for this insight! I'm guilty of overpowering my 4 x8's as I've got the scv-6000d on em with a 320 amp alternator and limitless lithium 45ah. Do I need to downsize my amp? I had my box built by cherryman here on RUclips with 2.75 cubes final displacement
Dmack434 I wouldn’t I was just set amp to deliver 4-4.5k and call it a day... keep the battery
@@M.B.Enclosures Thanks again brother! Keep doing what you're doing as there's always someone in need of good and accurate information!
Yeah don't down grade because you might want to go bigger sometime just turn it down.
Absolutely not that’s a good amp. Just clamp it and adjust accordingly
MB, I have heard you say distortion is hard to hear in a sub, and in another video about ohms, you said the higher the ohms such as 8 will be clean and distortion free unlike 1 ohm.
At what ohm can you hear distortion?
What ohm can you hear distortion?
Hmm, perhaps you don’t hear the distortion, perhaps it is lower quality when at a lower ohm rating.
So, when could the human ear hear this lower quality in music?
A big part of your explanation that's missing from all of your theoretical equations is box rise. If you are at 300 watts at 5 ohms, you can most certainly run more power if the sun can take more.
I have a skar svr 8” in a skar ported box and I’m going to replace it with a evl 8 since the svr doesn’t sound that good to me. I’m going to continue to use my skar 350watt mono block amp on the evl 8, will there be any issues since the speaker is rated 1200watt max? I don’t know to much of the science of car audio, but I used to have a 15” solobaric on a jl slasher 500 monoblock and that thing would rattle house windows.
I have been screaming this for 20 years!
Cone area. Sd is the bottom line if all other factors are identical.
Of course no. 1 question you gotta ask is how much space do you have.
Enjoyed this! Currently trying to decide on going with some different 8s in my car but my setup as Is, is pretty good. Wanted some to maybe take some more power and get a tad louder. Currently running 2 Skar ZVX 8s on Skar 2000D in a bad ass box and I’ve hit a 142db. Also have a hatch back so that helps to, Audi Q5.
what tuning do you have the box for the zvx 8's i just bought a 22 corolla hatch and my zvx 12 wont fit in the trunk.. thinking of buying 3 zvx 8's... just wondering if they have more of a full range.. my zvx12 doesnt do so well with my taste of music.. only good for ultra low bass!
I would say high quality sub can outperform low quality 12". I made my bluetooth speaker using high quality 2 x 4 inch woofers + 2 x 6.5 pr's and it gets low to 30hz and pretty much plays similar as my 12' alpine swe1244 sub. Box is also important.
I'm starting my wall build, 12 8's, 16mm xmax (peak-peak) 400RMS ea. It's gonna be fun.
Did you ever finish?
@@foundthebleach487 still working on it, it’s changed to 4 15’s, everything is here other than subs, they arrive today supposedly.
I have a X8v3 on a SAE1000d. What’s your opinion on running 2 X8v3 on that 1000. Would it hurt the subs with them only sharing 1000?
Fixin’ The Coast no as long as you set the amp correctly.. underpowering a sub only hurts if you clipping the amp trying to make it put out more than it can make. As far as the subs well you know they will not reach XMAX on that power, and after impedance rise they will not even see 1k. More is always better when it come to power.... you can always turn down the power, but you can’t turn up if you don’t have it.
What do you think about the 8 inch Skar SVR in comparison to the Sundown X8?
Are you serious? Have you ever heard or own X8? They not even in the same performance level. Skar is cheap no tech performance. Basically Alibaba. Really can’t believe you comparing the 2
@@M.B.Enclosures No I haven't. I was asking because I'm doing a four 8 inch subwoofer project and wanted your insight my dear bro I'm not a professional.
@@antoniomccoy9451 X8 is brute force. Requires alot more power to get really moving. Rated 800wrms but can comfortably run @ 1k wrms daily.
So I have two 12-in kicker l7q class subwoofers and I have a cxa 1800.1 to go with them so with all of my electrical being correct that is the perfect setup in the right box?
There is no perfect subwoofer sir
Cant believe you mentioned sundown and cost in the same video lol. Sundown is probably one of the most overpriced subs on the market lol.
Whats your opinion Running Rockford Fosgate's 2500.1bdcp on (,3 Sundown x8s v3 d2)
What you think about CT sounds 8s
Was looking at the tropos in a ported enclosure at 32hz maybe 34hz on a ct sounds 1500.1d what's your take on the Ct sounds gear
Cheap average
my buddy has 2 12 inch kickers in a ford ranger let’s just say we get a lot of crazy looks on the road
Hey whats up bro i got a quick question i got 3 10s punch hx2 and 4 8s sundown audio e8 v6 wich one u think will sound better in a chevy tahoe ? Thank u
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Massive HIPPO XL 84's absolutely pulverize low end bass.. Best 8" subs are Massive Hippo XL's and Savard Hi-Q 8's, HANDS DOWN.......... resonance and sensitivity are key to a great sub, NOT WATTAGE...... All Sundowns are good for is consuming wattage, not great sound. I had 5 Hippo XL's in the trunk of a Toyota Corolla and tore my car UP..
GameAholics Anonymous I agree that Sundown are notoriously inefficient and capture the market with their ‘larger motors’. But they do sound great and generate serious a SPL. I also agree the Massive Hippos , on prefer the older version over the XL...and for the price point they can’t be beat
I got one of them Hi-Q 8’s that little sub hits the lows nice. Got it hooked up to a ct sounds 500.1 I don’t know if it can take the whole power to the amp so I just got half of it hooked up to it.
@nestor aguirre my son blew it out bro they told me I can send it out to them and have them fix it for like $65 bucks but I said nah I’m waiting for warmer weather and then then and getting the kickerl7R12
@nestor aguirre yeah I did had it for almost two years then let my son borrow my car for three weeks cause he had car problems and blew it out right before getting it back. I played it pretty loud but not for too long and sounded nice and clean. Guessing he over did it now I’m stuck with just door and back speakers till the summer.
How do i tell rms from peak like say i got a 900 rms sub and a skar rp1200
I got 2 10 skar IX 200w rms on a 1200w kicker cx they slam!! I'm more careful with it though lol
Im seriously considering running some 8 inch subs in my 2017 civic sedan, this will be my first 8 inch setup. Have any recommendations on what brand of subs to get?
KICKER Q Class, DD sw2508, Toro Tech Audio Force, DB Drive WDX G5 8’s , Sundown X8v3’s, American Bass Hd844(the old one)...it’s really what you can afford..but KICKER tops them all IMO
@@M.B.Enclosures where does skar stand among these ?
@@jerrylaguna990 I would go with 2 Skar Audio IX-8s and throw them in a ground shaker box....and power them with the Skar Audio RP 5channel amp. The civic is a bit smaller then my 02 Maxima. You’ll be happy with the 2 8s....I ran them for 4years
@@thekidbart4528 why a 5 channel? Run a mono block at 1ohm and beat the shit out them 8s
What do you think about the memphis mojo 8s ?
Haven’t had them…yet
@MBEnclosuresLLC Damn....would like to see this review. I've been literally looking all thru your videos and comments to see if anyone or you would comment on the Memphis Mojo 8' rated at 900rms. I have the factory subwoofer box Memphis Audio MJMECHEV8D1 that I'm using for starters. Going to wire up the Rockford fosgate t1500-1bdcp to it the next chance I get along with the Epicenter..
What do you think of the savard hi q 8?
I hear it good. I haven't heard it.
I love my savard hi q subwoofers
I got that same sub hooked up to a CT.sounds 500.1 2ohm.
Hutchinson car audio eta-8 ......... they make them however you want as long as its neo..
i was just lookin at those. 23mm xmax for an 8 thats fuckin crazy.
If I wanted to do 4 skar 8s 4 ohm with a 2 ohm 3k amp what size battery should I get or you would recommend
Xs power d3400
@@M.B.Enclosures what are your thoughts on the Sundown X8 V3’s vs the DD Audio 2508’s???
@@weeman6539 I own the X8v3’s... first video on my channel. Very loud under the right power in correct box. The DD 2508 have more cone area and I wager they sound just as impressive
@@M.B.Enclosures thank you for information. I was going to run the American Bass VFL 8’s but have been tossing ideal about changing and doing the X8 V3’s or 2508’s. Keep up the amazing work my friend loving your post
Have you checked out the new crossfire C5-8” subs? I’m thinking of doing those or 2 of the sundown x8v3
Carlos Solis The new Crossfire C5 is just the old C7... they did away with the C7 line and just move them over to the C5.. they are beast. I had 2 Crossfire C7 4 years ago and it was louder in my vehicle than the X8v2... don’t know if it can best the X8v3. You should get them or the X8v3... both beast
I have an 8"
Damn this was a great video…. 👌
If you have a fb page with your system stuff can you let me know would love to follow you, im about to drop 2 memphis mojos in my truck
I have 2 8s that hit like a 12 they can do the trick
Great video!
Great info!
No disrespect, but next time.. PLEASE stop driving long enough to make your videos. One of these days you could look into the camera for the last time.
💯 brother
My job requires me to talk on a radio, activate lights, actuate different tones as I approach intersections, all while driving much faster than other traffic around me. I think this dude has it well under control. Pay attention to how often your eyes leave the straight ahead position, then preach. Watching his surroundings, and hearing the rpms, this guy isn’t a dangerous driver.
@@Hammerback0 got to be a fucking cop! You mad you couldn’t give me a ticket!
@@Hammerback0 ya, so you're a cop or ambulance driver.. whatever. You may have the training to drive like that, but most people don't. I was just worried for his safety, as well as the safety for others. As you should be too. I hope you're not a cop.. cause that's ficked up advice/ attitude about the subject.
@@M.B.Enclosures 😂. Nope. Hilarious how sensitive that ass is tho. Rarely am I at a loss for words, I've seen and heard a lot of goofy shit in my life, but, this comment left ignorant, dumb, and even stupid in the rear view mirror, and went straight into window licking water head territory with the quickness of someone that just can't mind their own business. Get back to the register, breaks over Corky, and remember, it's pronounced McDonald's, not Mildonalds
2 savard rap 8 inch get down in 2 cf ported 35hz tuned low wattage