In Season 13 you can Jungle with Any Champ. Legit every Champion can jungle now. | Zoe Jungle
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Season 13 brought in Pets to fight in the jungle so you don't have to
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Basically the changes are:
-Jungle Pets are the new Red Smite / Blue Smite items
-3 Pets to choose from, Red (Wolf) gives a slow + damage on first hit, Blue (Fox) Gives movement speed when in Brushes + Movement speed when completing camps, Green (Turtle) Gives Tenacity Slow resist, and a permanent shield that recharges when out of combat
-You only gain these traits when you feed the pet 40 treats (when the item disappears)
-Pets help do camps with you, they heal you for 70% (Could be changed) of the damage they deal
-Doing camps give pets treats, they start with needing 40
-Smite does 600 instead of 450 at the start
-at 20 treats Smite deals 900 and now can be used on champions for True Damage + Steal movement speed (It's blue smite)
-Smite no longer heals you
-All camps now heal you when you finish them
-All camps patience range is smaller so doing double camps is harder
-Camps will no longer fully reset so messing up clears is harder, (They reaggro when they get back into their patience range rather than run to their original start)
-At 0 treats your smite does 1200 True Damage to monsters
-At 0 treats you gain 30% damage reduction when doing Epic Monsters like Baron and Dragon and Herald when at least 2 other allies are nearby
Wow! You put a lot of effort into showing us the jg changes and also compiling the info down here. Thanks Pekin!
bro bard jg doesnt seem to bad now xD
its sad they making kiting irrekevant and u cant double camp
Mr. Pekin can you take smite and go play in mid lane?
Is smite mid viable?
He meant to write "at 40 treats" for the last 2 bullet points, yeah?
Lightrocket, the Taric onetrick, pointed out that with the pets you should look at drake pit before buying your pet; if it's Infernal drake you can buy blue pet in peace as there's no chance of infernal rift with less bushes, and if it's ocean drake you should maybe think about not buying blue pet if that was your plan - there's no chance of Ocean rift with more bush and there's a chance of Infernal rift.
Good callout, something junglers will probably want to consider now
something i dont get, whats the relation between bushes and blue pet?
@@hyperluxo7124 blue pet when maxxed out gives bonus movement speed when moving through bushes or killing large monsters
But why should you ever buy the blue pet in soloq where every form of dmg/ tankiness can be game winning, as a low master jungler i would never buy that shitt (i play mostly brusier/ carry jungler btw.)
@@jeezycata4662 Any champion that takes ghost instead of flash should be considering blue pet. Hecarim, Mordekaiser, Taric, Olaf, arguably Udyr - champions that do well once on top of an enemy but either struggle to engage or have move-speed based engage (rather than dashes etc).
Looks really good. It is something I pitched a long time ago on the old forums. The idea is basically everyone becomes a viable jungle, just like basically everyone can lane in theory. Some will naturally be better but overall it allows so much more flexibility and creativity.
Im glad I always wanted to play Katarina jungle
Man, basically every mid with a good roam is going to be a serious consideration in the jungle. I want to see Ahri jungle next
I mean yeah, mid always worked as a secondary jungle role since they always gank lanes after being ahead or help gank with junglers in general. This update will give them a chance to become a full fledge jungler since literally anyone can do it to become even more viable.
@@XUIW so... Bard jungle stops being a gimmick and turns into the second coming of Ivern? I mean, he's got one of the best roam mechanics in the game
katarina :O
I wanted to try Swain jungle for ages. And Cassiopeia becomes more than viable.
@@Miraihi Cassio has no gank pressure tho
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@@sashybunny in pbe or actual servers?
some people have been critical of this change because it takes some of the edge off champs who could previously full clear faster than others or multi camp clear like fiddlesticks, but frankly im thinking the end result is worth it, opening up the jungle to literally every champ in the game. i'm all for expanding available champ pools and options, and if some of those champs who previously relied on their turbo farming as their advantage well maybe they look to adjust those specific cases to shift their power a bit in a different direction.
good move for the game as a whole though.
👍
As a main Mid and Jung as secondary role it makes me sad that you can't do the crazy Fiddle pathing anymore, but I'll be enjoying playing a lot of Midlaners champs in the jungle
everyone being able to jungle always ends up being a bad thing because it doesn't mean that jungle ends up having more variety, it just means the characters that were already good in the jungle gap the rest even harder
plus one tricks are going to shit up the hardest role lol
If u used ur brain u would realise they're making good clearers worse and bad clearers better
Actual raid boss chogath just sitting in four people is the second best part of this vid.
Seeing a master doing their craft is always a sight to see 👍
Oh my god this would have been such a great opportunity for AP Zeri jungle! Can they just buff her AP ratio for a patch so we can experience it :c
Thanks for the pretty informative video. This suggests to me that the next 'big' Meta will turn back Lulu JG to be as versatile as (if not even more than) before --on what was the previous 'Burst Meta'; currently it's this 'ADC/Tank Meta'. The Jungle now is too tough, and if you don't go wild Damage (on Lulu JG) you can't impact the game anymore; it's pretty stupidly, straightforwardly bad right now; you Build Kraken Slayer and/or Blade of the Ruined King, you easily control the Jungle and slay Tanks, Fighters, Assassins, Marskmen, whatever you encounter in your way, you name it, and carry all the games left-handedly; you don't Build those items, you become COMPLETELY useless (unless you're somewhat of a Tank Lulu) and loose ALL Objectives; no mystery here: there is no more space for creative strategies nor advanced tactics --it's all down to who is capable of doing more Damage while Sustaining longer (and Lulu can do that but only on very cavemen Builds). Hopefully, this will be changing soon enough thanks to the Pets --then, lots of champions, including Lulu, on the Jungler Role won't have to focus on pure Damage in order to compensate for relatively limited Farming capabilities.
note on the treat thing you mention at 16:28:
Not only do you get that bonus 50 gold when you use a treat stack, you also apperantly get more XP. But same point stands that it exists to level out farming junglers and ganking junglers so that they stay relatively the same
Your Zoe is so clean man, this was a fun watch :):)
As a jungle main I am not very happy with the reset range being so much smaller now. However I am very happy with the fact that a lot of new champs will be viable in the jungle now. I am personally hoping that Lissandra might be playable in the jg, since I love that champ but rarely play mid.
For what it's worth, since the indicators show how far the monster can go, rather than how far you can go, it actually nets out to not a whole lot smaller. Though it is definitely a bit. I off role jungle and after testing it a few times in practice tool it doesn't really seem to have affected my clear much, if anything it sped them up since I'm not like, super proficient or anything.
season 13 gonna be so fucking wild in the best and worst ways lol
I started learning jungle 2 days ago and am trying to main Lillia. Tbh, this movement speed item is gonna be SO strong on her :D I'm excited about it.
Aaah Lillia, this champ is so fun! ^^ (Well, when you play it at least, much less when you're against it XD)
It's my 2cd favorite champ in Top Lane, far harder to play in jgl in my opinion. Good luck mate! 💪😁
@@WolffQuam thx :D
i always love seeing you use 10 w in a row, at a 1000 speed
Strangely I don't think I hate this, it puts more focus on Junglers being based on who has good Ingage and CC, aswell as clear speed.
Rather than having to worry about survivability during the jungle.
I’m actually super excited for the preseason changes! Can’t wait to try out jungle again
Bard jungle seems legit. The gank pressure and meep collection would be so efficient now.
23:00 that combo was cleannnn
I think the changes are really cool love the increased variety of picks that will be allowed
Also I can finally play zoe in every role if I get filled my wr will be happy
@@Sc4recrow44 Yh but clear is a huge part on being viable. Realistically this zoe clear looks way too slow and she's going to get perma invaded all game and especially on her 2nd buff (red).
I also just want to FYI this MASSIVE note that the tool tip doesn't say, the jungle pet PASSIVE amps your damage to your side of the map's camps by 20% or something so you ignore their armor basically. Zoe lvl 1 here did 58 AD to Red Buff despite it having 20 armor which should have negated that damage.
It's time, they rediculed me, they threw stones at me
But my MALZAHAR predator jungle will feast on their tears
I belive in you
Ah , i see you're a man of culture as well, fellow malz enjoyer
My xayah jungle will become legendary
Not again, please, not againn the 65% winrate
Me who have played Bard jungle way before the upcoming rework 😮
Wow I actually want to jungle now, it finally looks fun.
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Man, I actually really like the sound of this change! Rare Rito W
7:01 DOG MOMENT
It's not technically even chilling smite anymore, since it doesn't speed you up, it just slows the enemy. So its kind of like a watered down version of red, blue, and purple smite combined. It has the AOE, it slows, and it burns.
Need to see you hit the random button when selecting Champs and just take them all in the jungle 😂
AS a jungle main this is a serious punch to the gut, all the time I spent learning the clears on all my champs is essentially thrown out the window because riot wants to make every champ jg. What's the point of my role then? If everyone can jungle now then what makes a jungle champ special? Its just so annoying when riot says "oh we want to make jungle better" and throw every mid lanner into my role now. Its just super frustrating to put all this time into a role and deal with the community of this game using me a scapegoat every single match, and then riot themselves couldn't care less about the integrity of my role. And the amount of troll jg picks and just bad junglers who have no idea how to play the role is just gonna spike. Like im glad you can full clear on lux, but we are 3 dragons behind with zero lanes ganked. This on top of the tank changes im honestly dreading this season.
This is exactly what I’ve been thinking bro I feel you so fucking hard
fr man I hate tank meta, and junglers will all be trolling now. I put so much effort into learning an optimal double-camping fiddle clear and now all that time was wasted
pekin: you wanna play bard jungle? play bard jungle
pianta: oh i already have ;)
I wonder if this will enable a playstyle where you can have your hyperscaler in jungle like a jhin or samira and have strong lanes
Oh boy, i am thirsting for that Aurelion Sol jungle, i've always wanted to use him there
As a jng main this is big I can use everyone I've wanted to use. But also I hope this doesn't make jng queues longer
18:39
That chase felt like an anime fight scene
I love that you mentioned Bard jungle because he's my fav champ and I've always thought he'd be a really fun jungle if only he had some early waveclear capacity
My time has come
Great video Pekin, really enjoyed it fun to watch
22:40 holy cow, a knock up animation. Are they doing that for every champ?
I'm gonna miss 3 camp invading evelynn now that basically every real jungler can full clear at full health. Other than that i like these changes. Also they r gonna need a "fully stack smite" thing in the practice tool
lmao if an evelynn is that low in her jg the player is horrible at eve
it’s funny be cause I discovered you, with your Zoe jungle in the past
and you’re playing it again, love it
thanks for content
Such bizzare changes... Legit the only positive I can think of is the removal of leashing, I always hated that, but that aint even guaranteed...
Pyke jungle must be fun now
If every champion can flex jungle, that could be really healthy for the game.
i cant wait to take malz jg
Everyone can jungle, but not everyone can jungle well.
And that's okay, but people can try off-meta and have fun in the jungle, having a massive barrier to entry shouldn't be a requirement. I like it overall.
Like sure yuumi can jungle, but she's awful there. Even though it's possible it doesn't mean it's good.
On current patch like 40+ people can solo drag lvl 1, does that really matter? no, is that overpowered? also no.
17:25 lillia 4 stacked + celerity + water walking + new smite item
omfg
this might be the wackiest pekinwoof video I have had the pleasure of watching
Girl the video's been out for 1 minute 💀
@@seren6195 SHUSH IK JUST LET ME HAVE MY MOMENT
@@bagbag9099 my bad sorry LMAO
I like Malzahar jg, maybe in season 13 I can actually do something with it
Pekin the only one I turn adblock off for, maybe try going super fast on Jhingle or Rammus with the new fox speed buff.
Jungle with Xerath, do it. There's no way it can go wrong. (As a Xerath main who has never jungled nor looked at the changes, I can only imagine how awful it would be, but still)
Edit: Xerath or Lux, either would be hilarious.
Feels like when we had the "spirit of __" items many seasons ago.
Felt like you could run anything in the jungle back then.
I love that jungle healing is more gradual and depends more on the pet or the champ having innate healing. It's been too long since doing a bad gank meant anything or not just doing a bad gank but getting bursted down in return without dying may actually mean something now, where the laner or the jg can go punish and the enemy jungler wouldn't already be back to full health off one camp.
I mean with decent kiting (which is pretty hard with the shitty leash range) you can do a camp and basically heal most of your health
@@zachariz1490 yes but because dmg from the pet counts in mid game you can't fast do one camp and be full health, it actually has to be a slower kite clear to really regen because just killing it doesn't give as much and smite gives none.
Hey Pekin
Great video once again!
I kinda think like they made jngl easier and im not really sure if i should like this rework or not...
Anyway:
Since you are testing different Builds with the new items. Could I suggest you to make a video where you play Xerath on PBE with
Comet
Manaflowband (not that its unusual to go manaflowband on Xerath but still: its for the extra DMG on Archangels)
Absolut focus
Gathering storm
i go for taste of blood and eyeball collection as secondary.
First buy or first recall the mana tear into full ludens and boots followed by Archangel staff (It will give you +151 AP with Manaflowband!) ? Youll have over 350 AP with only those 2 items and the rune path from above.
If you then go for rabadons and maybe have a stacked dark seal you'll have over 700 AP which feels so insane to me.
I just had 800 AP on Xerath on a PBE game where i didnt even perform that well (but not bad either) in 30 minutes! Still had my support item and dark seal with 10 stacks that i could upgrade so i couldve gone over 1k i guess :)
I’m scared for garden or Darius jungle now. They are going to be so fast
Ay it's time for jingle in the jungle to shine. Come on Bard, let's go.
Jungle Neeko just seems like so much fun.
Jungle Neeko has been a thing for a long time.
@@XUIW I mean, technically all picks have been a thing since the character was released, but Jungle Neeko certainly hasn't been great for a while now. (I say as someone who played Jungle Neeko multiple times because I like the concept, lmao.)
I'm curious, what do you guys think of this change? I think that folks getting autofilled jungle and being able to use their favorites in the jungle is a good change! Besides, I've always wanted to take wacky picks to jungle but their subpar clear has prevented me from this
My favorite champions are midlane champions except for Fiddlesticks. Being able to take Vex into my favorite role is epic!
@@sunshower6560 I think Viktor jungle as a scaling pick would be pretty cool, you can even use his gravity field to cut off exits for ganks! His ult is good for team fights too
Personally I really dislike it. I haven't really liked any recent changes in the last few years besides the durability update and riot seems to be buffing damage up again every patch anyways. I don't really play anymore though I occasionally think about coming back and still watch my main two LoL youtubers.
Great change. As a jungle main since season 3 i've become bored of the meta jungle picks. I love playing off meta junglers and there are quite a few champs that have great ganks but trash clear. Lissandra will be amazing imo.
They are ruining everything about the jungle being a special role. Clear times are no longer going to be a skill. Kiting is going to make almost no difference now.
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13:19 "Joey Zungle" - NEW OP CHAMP???
3:09 Such a simple thing that many junglers, even in mid to high mid/low high elo don't seem to get.
YES!!! now i can play my 400k Zoe in jungle :D
8:15 i'm literally dying from an heart attack.
please!¡!!¡!¡ Use your R for the basic attack with the pasive! 😭🤪💀
30:26 the cho jumpscare
By the way the extra treats are on a timer so you and Kayn would be getting the same extra treats.
I know it's a big meme and everyone's flaming about how they're trying to make the game easy, but like...the game itself is still plenty difficult and there is still skill gap between players. And while it may piss off high elo junglers that want to feel good about how efficiently they can do a bunch of trivial shit while also focusing on macro, you still have to be good at macro to be a good jungler, I think. I dunno, I'm not challenger or anything but I can't help but feel like this is at least a pretty cool way to serve the entire community without just removing jungle completely. JG is still a defined role at least, different than the others. if anything, even more different now.
I guess I just don't really care that much....to me, I'm excited about the S13 changes, memes and all. Seems to be trying to add more fun and I can appreciate that.
if this is still viable once it hits live I cant wait for the sick High Elo Pekin Zoe JG games
Man, if they keep these changes jungle is gonna be way more accesible for a lot of people. On one hand I like that they're making it easier to access and making it more flexible of a role, but on the other hand i worry that skill expression won't be as prominent with these changes. No more smite fights, less brain involved in clearing... gonna miss those big brain plays.
Its insane that Zoe can 5 camp in time for scuttle now
They also moved first scuttle to 3:30, so timings are a little different
Are you blind, he 5 camped and finished around 4:10 not 3:10 lol
@@tsunamibami what are you on? He finished his 5 camps at 3:00 in the video (3:33 game time)
Im actually really excited for this.
Can you try Pyke jngl? Seems pretty op with these changes and his kit as a jngler
Cant wait to abuse Riven jungle instead of playing her mid, already got a pretty decent 58% wr (173 games jungle) with her, having a bit faster and healthier early clear is gonna be huge
Imagine Nidalee with the fox. All the extra speed when running around in the jungle.
Very fun game and nice commentary, ty as always, i might even try playing league again next season
Great vid as always Pekin, keep up the great work!.
Champs i want to *PROPERLY* jungle with (not hidden op or anything):
Mids: Asol, Ryze, Sylas, Lissandra, Heimer, Galio, Yone, Yasuo
Supps: Braum, Bard, Rakan, Rell, Swain, Brand, Zyra, Pyke, Nautilus
Tops: Tahm Kench, Singed, Yorick, Gnar, Kled, Renekton, Sett, Garen, K'sante, Riven
ADCs: Lucian, Jhin, Kalista, Kog'Maw
Imma be completely real, I don't like any of these changes.
They're turning jungler role into a fuck all role that is overwhelmingly overtuned, and i say this as a jungle main.
Currently the problem with junglers is not the role, but the extremely overtuned champions present in it, this just makes it so the role too becomes overwhelmingly powerful, while also trivializing essentially every single jungle-clear mechanic.
Champions that shouldn't by all means end up in the jungle will end up there, and I'm mainly worried about hyperscalers just completely taking over the game past a certain point due to how actually insanely strong pets are.
4% true damage on attacks and abilities? :Laughs in moneyman Karthus:
30% movement speed? arguably the worst of the lot, still insane on some champs that rely on MS.
What is essentially a mountain soul on your tank jungler, allowing you to take shield bash in runes for free? All tanks LOVE this.
They've completely overtuned both the champions and the role while making it so insanely easier to play.
by going off what you said, horizon focus took the damage of your q from 2000 down to 1870 damage
He lost baron buff and 10 mejai's stacks upon dying, so in total buying horizon focus made him lose like 6 ap and gain the 10% increased damage
...but yes he could theoretically stack mejai's again
Edit: he lost 14 ap
@@thefailers2597 I'm going off the assumption that he would get those mejai's stacks back as he is still much stronger than everyone and also not playing high elo, so before baron with blue pot he had 901 ap, after baron with horizon focus and blue pot he had 816 ap, so a net loss of 85 ap assuming he gets mejai's stacked again. Max Q damage with Mejai's was 1902, while with Horizon focus it ended up being 1951, so you are right in principle.
Hi Pekin, awesome video! I feel like this opens up the jungle a lot. Maybe way too much... Could you try Rakan jungle? Until now I've wanted to try it but it just wasn't possible to clear more than a couple camps. If he has good gank potential as supp and mid, I'd imagine it would be better as a jungler. Maybe with an HP and AP build like night harvester.
As a rakan main I've waited 6 years for this jungle. Rakn can 1v1 drake lvl 4 without backing after full clear
Rush ROA into Nashors into seraphim embrace
I think is kinda good, u see often damage supps, ranged top and apc on bot, so why not give jungle more flaxibility
Man, brand, morg and karthus JG are going to be such a pain...
The raid bosses were highly entertaining
A very informative video, thanks a bunch!
That jng rework is crazy lol
Ok they made it so every champ "can" jungle, what about diana though who will still fullclear 30 seconds faster than non meta champs cos she has 300% aoe monster dmg?
zoe will no longer need mejais to get airplane hands :D
Another great commentary! Do you think these changes will make some off-meta junglers more viable and played in high elo? If so, which ones?
Jungle looks so fun and easy now wtf.
Given how healthy they're making jungle, they should unironically just turn all camps into healthpacks.
omg will shaco finally be able to clear jungle decently, very nice.
I feel like the comeback objectives gold, and the suggested items already dumbed down the game so much. As a jungle main I do hate how small the champion pool is so I am happy about that, I dont think the pets are nessasary though. They could of just made the heal off of every camp a small amount as the change, and more champs would be able to jungle.
Have they fixed the bug where your pets don't damage the camp if you're moving around too much? It really butchered the clears of champions like Zac, since he needs to walk around picking up blobs.
Bro I literally did that a month ago, zoe jungle is cracked
Such an entertaining game! Extremely fun to watch
Bro u ok?
@@lol_Ozma eh..yes ^^ are you ok?
Yo Ahri jungle fr gonna be insane now lol
Ivern jungle aboutta be ZOOMING
The Joey Zungle meta is on its way
I'd already been jungling TF although it was kind of a troll pick but if that first clear is easier I think it'll actually be pretty legit.
Pyke jungle is gonna be fun with pets
Who did they change the jungle for? As a jungle main I despise everything that they have done for this pre season.
Love to see you play that tank Chogath
iirc red pet doesnt consume stacks once its fully stacked, but i might be wrong