Montaggio del film, proiezione, funzionamento dei piatti a cilo continuo: Kinoton ST2000 Endless loop. Projection booth with Kinoton system. La petite Lumière - Belluno
If you look at the star shape that the film forms you will see that the inner layers bend in and out more than the inner ones do, so the inner layers contain the same amount of film for each turn as the outer layers, so the film does not have to rub against itself as it moves from the edge of the platter to the centre. Clever, but give me twenty minute reels and changeovers any day.
Platters I worked with had a "tucker arm" that pushed the film inward rhythmically, driven by a track on the underside. I don't see how the film takes on the hump shapes in your video to achieve inner and outer length equality without this?
Endless loops are clever and this one is more sophisticated than the others I've seen but I don't like the fact that film layers must slide over each other as the film moves from outside to inside. And I fail to see the point. Is it really necessary to save 5 minutes of time per show? Don't you want to make sure the gate and other parts are clean?
Intendi il passaggio sul debitore superiore? E' corretto passare sotto il rullo folle, come indicato dallo schema sullo stesso proiettore. Se passi sopra fai scorrere la pellicola contro il costrittore.
Personalmente rifuggo i piatti perché stressano inutilmente la pellicola e soprattutto la sottopongono all'aria e alla polvere con tutti quei passaggi....spesso le copie che mi arrivavano dai multisala a piatti erano conciate male e molto sporche; il sistema a bobine stressa meno la pellicola e soprattutto la mantiene più pulita; da evitare inoltre il riavvolgimento in macchina con sistema "rock and roll" ma solo manuale con avvolgifilm sempre per evitare inutile stress alle copie
That's the freakiest take up platter method I've ever seen. It looks like it gets several wraps and then caves in and repeats.
we used to call the kinoton machines the tin can and bike chain grave stone, but they were brilliant.
If you look at the star shape that the film forms you will see that the inner layers bend in and out more than the inner ones do, so the inner layers contain the same amount of film for each turn as the outer layers, so the film does not have to rub against itself as it moves from the edge of the platter to the centre. Clever, but give me twenty minute reels and changeovers any day.
Same here...
Platters I worked with had a "tucker arm" that pushed the film inward rhythmically, driven by a track on the underside. I don't see how the film takes on the hump shapes in your video to achieve inner and outer length equality without this?
No that was the cinemeccanica looper. This Kinoton uses an electronic system to articulate the film.
Mi sembrano molto complicati quei passaggi della pellicola, attraverso quei rocchetti del proiettore. Non erano più semplici quelli di una volta?
Endless loops are clever and this one is more sophisticated than the others I've seen but I don't like the fact that film layers must slide over each other as the film moves from outside to inside.
And I fail to see the point. Is it really necessary to save 5 minutes of time per show? Don't you want to make sure the gate and other parts are clean?
Hello, i search kinoton ST2000 ENDLESS LOOP
Or then I to buy one?
Hello, do you have the usual guide of the endless loop? thanks
this is real cinema,digital is only a big video tv for home.
Soy operador de cinematógrafo que siempre he trabajado con el sistema tradicional de dos maquinas, (ossa VI) ( Universal ) (Pergam) y algunas mas.
yo trabajaba con una sola maquina y el cambio de rollos habia que hacerlo rapido ,hermoso trabajo,desaparecio por la porqueria digital
Yes, I know this ;)
But press the button in the CP and turn off the lights is a nice video effect to end the video ... Is a poetic device :D
Intendi il passaggio sul debitore superiore? E' corretto passare sotto il rullo folle, come indicato dallo schema sullo stesso proiettore. Se passi sopra fai scorrere la pellicola contro il costrittore.
Io non uso i piatti ma la stessa macchina x proiettare.. Comunque un bel video...
:-)
Personalmente rifuggo i piatti perché stressano inutilmente la pellicola e soprattutto la sottopongono all'aria e alla polvere con tutti quei passaggi....spesso le copie che mi arrivavano dai multisala a piatti erano conciate male e molto sporche; il sistema a bobine stressa meno la pellicola e soprattutto la mantiene più pulita; da evitare inoltre il riavvolgimento in macchina con sistema "rock and roll" ma solo manuale con avvolgifilm sempre per evitare inutile stress alle copie
To destroy the original soundtrack with this terrible music is not really intelligent... to say it in a friendly way... :-(