@ 4:50 NS was in process of putting in the Buffalo Connection soon. Serves NS 14M and 15M daily shoving them around now days Conway PA to Buffalo NY and Buffalo NY to Conway PA
I have a question for you caddyfam. What are your thoughts, if any, about the time of this video, meaning the Conrail spilt by NS and CSX? Do you feel that it was a good idea or bad idea? Was it bungled with lots of problems? How about your thoughts on the legacy of Conrail now that it is gone? Thanks. This was a great video by the way. I haven't seen any other SD50 cab view videos before and it is a little bit quieter in the cab than on say a SD40-2. My only cab rides have been in F7s on a tourist train and later on a steam loco.
The split should have never been allowed. All kind if logistical nightmares that took months to remedy, such as lost shipments, trains going to Wei g destinations, just terrible.
@@caddyfam I remember them paying us incentive money not to take vacation time right after the split/meltdown! Paid it into a “Twist” account with Vanguard Investments. I retired in 2020, and still have that account, and it’s worth a bunch of $$$ now! As much of a cluster as that split was, I think this ridiculous PSR crap has been worse! I’d probably not have retired when I did, but conditions were so dangerous that I decided to leave before they got me killed! Also, my grandfather was an engineer on this Youngstown to Ashtabula line for the NYC. He retired in 1960, the same year I was born, and died shortly after. Still have pictures of him on his last run! Thanks for this vid!
@@nvaa1991, yeah not knowing a lot about SD50’s, I now learned a ton about those guys. Every road had problems with their SD50’s due to the V16-645F3, and 645F3B’s, it was just the amount of torque and RPM the engine put out, that was enough to shred its own crankshaft. All SD50’s where like that, most roads Downrated them, just like the GP50’s. Instead of 3,600 HP. They usually run at ~3,000 HP which extends the operation period.
As A Greyhound bus driver I'm used to the high view. But this is ASTOUNDING. Trains have always fascinated me...and I, like most people, wonder what the tracks look like as you go down the line. Only thing is that grinding and clinking and clanking. Did it irritate you?
That’s kool. The tracks are about 5 minutes from my home. I have driven across them many times. Always wondered what it looked like along the tracks...thanks
Could’ve been 15, or a little more. I’m not sure how long they’re train was. But they where pushing the power up and down a bit to keep it steady, could’ve been heavy knowing Conrail and their lengthy coal drags!
@@ohioandnortheastern , I wouldn't say 300 cars long.. Maybe, 150-200. That would need a lot of power back in those days, and that would mean a lot of strain on couplers.
SD50. CR had 135 'fighting fifties' numbered 6700-6834. CR did buy the 3 EMD SD60 demonstrators in 1985. They were 6840, 6841, & 6842. In 1989 the American taxpayers bought 25 more. 6843-6867 SD60I (isolated-'whispercabs' ) 5544 was the isolated cab prototype. 5575-5674 had new cab kits installed at Juaniata shops. SD60M 5500-5574
@@ma35154 "CSX and NS split most of the Company's assets between them. The Surface Transportation Board (STB) officially approved the acquisition and restructuring of Conrail on July 23, 1998. NS and CSX took administrative control of Conrail on August 22, 1998."
@@caddyfam do/ did you know any czups who worked out of Ashtabula? My grandparents lived in Ashtabula. Dad and his siblings were born and raised there. Dad worked at the west Ave car shops during high school summer breaks before going to law school. Was just back 03-07-20 for a family members funeral. Town sure has changed over 60 years.
I'm sorry..had problem uploading and never finished description. This was spring of 99 starting at Conrail Ashtabula West yard, on the Youngstown Connection and down the Youngstown Line to around Struthers. The CSX crossing is Center Street. This was just before the CSX acquisition and they are planning to signal some former manual block territory.
Rest in Peace, big blue.
Grew up along the Ohio river, right across from the Cleveland to Pittsburgh main.
i live incredibly close to the starting location of this video, literally a small walk up the road, so fucking cool
You used to hear these trains at night all the way to Poland, OH. One of my fondest memories as a kid.
@ 4:50 NS was in process of putting in the Buffalo Connection soon. Serves NS 14M and 15M daily shoving them around now days Conway PA to Buffalo NY and Buffalo NY to Conway PA
How did you guys not talk?? I was a conductor for Norfolk southern in this area and silence the whole trip drove me crazy....
Did you ride on the train through ravenna ohio?
I wonder if this train went threw whiting Indiana down the Conrail Chicago Amtrak line?
I have a question for you caddyfam. What are your thoughts, if any, about the time of this video, meaning the Conrail spilt by NS and CSX? Do you feel that it was a good idea or bad idea? Was it bungled with lots of problems? How about your thoughts on the legacy of Conrail now that it is gone? Thanks. This was a great video by the way. I haven't seen any other SD50 cab view videos before and it is a little bit quieter in the cab than on say a SD40-2. My only cab rides have been in F7s on a tourist train and later on a steam loco.
The split should have never been allowed. All kind if logistical nightmares that took months to remedy, such as lost shipments, trains going to Wei g destinations, just terrible.
@@caddyfam I remember them paying us incentive money not to take vacation time right after the split/meltdown! Paid it into a “Twist” account with Vanguard Investments. I retired in 2020, and still have that account, and it’s worth a bunch of $$$ now! As much of a cluster as that split was, I think this ridiculous PSR crap has been worse! I’d probably not have retired when I did, but conditions were so dangerous that I decided to leave before they got me killed! Also, my grandfather was an engineer on this Youngstown to Ashtabula line for the NYC. He retired in 1960, the same year I was born, and died shortly after. Still have pictures of him on his last run! Thanks for this vid!
Read that Chessie System had problems with their SD50s. What was Conrail's experience with them?
They could’ve been one of the.. SD50F’s, or E’s?
@@whistlinturbosrailfanprodu4652 Probably SD50Es. All of the Ex-Conrail SD50s NS owns are now rebuilt into SD40Es.
@@nvaa1991, yeah not knowing a lot about SD50’s, I now learned a ton about those guys. Every road had problems with their SD50’s due to the V16-645F3, and 645F3B’s, it was just the amount of torque and RPM the engine put out, that was enough to shred its own crankshaft. All SD50’s where like that, most roads Downrated them, just like the GP50’s. Instead of 3,600 HP. They usually run at ~3,000 HP which extends the operation period.
As A Greyhound bus driver I'm used to the high view. But this is ASTOUNDING. Trains have always fascinated me...and I, like most people, wonder what the tracks look like as you go down the line. Only thing is that grinding and clinking and clanking. Did it irritate you?
That’s kool. The tracks are about 5 minutes from my home. I have driven across them many times. Always wondered what it looked like along the tracks...thanks
What predecessor railroad was this? NYC or Pennsylvania?
Ashtabula to Youngstown is former NYC. From Youngstown on towards New Brighton, PA and Conway is former PRR
Hey that bird you smashed was it a hawk or eagle it looked huge!!
What's track speed, 15 mph.....
Could’ve been 15, or a little more. I’m not sure how long they’re train was. But they where pushing the power up and down a bit to keep it steady, could’ve been heavy knowing Conrail and their lengthy coal drags!
@@whistlinturbosrailfanprodu4652 didn't they have a 300 car long coal train at one point?
@@ohioandnortheastern , I wouldn't say 300 cars long.. Maybe, 150-200. That would need a lot of power back in those days, and that would mean a lot of strain on couplers.
What locomotive was this taken on?
Its an SD50.
6832, SD60
SD50. CR had 135 'fighting fifties' numbered 6700-6834.
CR did buy the 3 EMD SD60 demonstrators in 1985. They were 6840, 6841, & 6842. In 1989 the American taxpayers bought 25 more. 6843-6867
SD60I (isolated-'whispercabs' ) 5544 was the isolated cab prototype. 5575-5674 had new cab kits installed at Juaniata shops.
SD60M 5500-5574
When did Norfolk southern and csx buy conrail out?
@@ma35154 "CSX and NS split most of the Company's assets between them. The Surface Transportation Board (STB) officially approved the acquisition and restructuring of Conrail on July 23, 1998. NS and CSX took administrative control of Conrail on August 22, 1998."
Did you operate the locomotive?
Yes
@@caddyfam awesome.
@@caddyfam do/ did you know any czups who worked out of Ashtabula?
My grandparents lived in Ashtabula. Dad and his siblings were born and raised there. Dad worked at the west Ave car shops during high school summer breaks before going to law school.
Was just back 03-07-20 for a family members funeral.
Town sure has changed over 60 years.
@@bobpaulino4714 yes, Tony
@@bobpaulino4714 and Mark
Ore loads or mt's?
On what line does this video take place? Is it a secret?
I'm sorry..had problem uploading and never finished description. This was spring of 99 starting at Conrail Ashtabula West yard, on the Youngstown Connection and down the Youngstown Line to around Struthers. The CSX crossing is Center Street. This was just before the CSX acquisition and they are planning to signal some former manual block territory.
Is showing of the advancement of the throttle prohibited?😂😂😂
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