Aspect of Pan is still an absolute monster. | Hades 2
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- Short story: aspect of Pan didn't have a lot of leaderboard presence when we started the day so we decided to try to get some runs in. During attempts, another runner got a monster time so the low hanging fruit was no more lol.
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Still my favorites Hades 2 aspect.
Hey man, I watched a ton of your videos during the pandemic when I was getting obsessed with og Hades, really loved it. So pleased to see you're still doing great stuff! All the best dude.
Hi there, I found out your channel 3 days ago and really thank you for the effort in making this kind of videos!
Btw, didn't know that Hades has such a big community 😍
This community is awesome! Welcome to the crossroads - Death to Chronos!
yo smart lookin hat haelian
They're so full of whimsy and joy ❤️❤️❤️
the music in the artemis chamber in oceanus reminds me of the soundtrack of subnautica below zero so much. genuinely could imagine this one being in that game
Hey Haelian! Random gameplay question. Why do you always drop the cast before charging omegas? I find dropping the cast -while- im charging omegas makes sure it's still up for the homing daggers. Unless i'm missing something here
Do you play with a controller? It’s hard to press the cast button while charging an omega
I'm going to be honest, I didn't know you could drop the cast while channeling. I just assumed the game didn't let you, thank you for the tip!
@@dereksout true, but you can change it to a different button. for instance, I use Cast with RB/R1 in order to do that with ease
Since the optimal speedrunning strat is to NOT unlock the Centaur, I wonder how that could change in the future.
Thanks, now I feel less bad about occasionally losing DDs against Hecate.
She's the first boss and not that strong but it's easy to underestimate her and quickly lose life by being careless.
Skill issue lmao
I can’t put proper words on JUST HOW MUCH I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS
i really like ur guide Haelian! helps on my run tremendously. I wonder if you can make guide for each aspect to run on 32 heat. like which boon or combos to focus. things like that would be very helpful
I do have a Fear guide on the channel that talks about them and at least 1 video per weapon at 32 Fear in particular. Unfortunately the game is being balanced/updated so frequently that it's difficult to produce and release guides quickly enough, not to mention they're not very useful after balance changes.
Why you didnt take the father chamber in the last act and pray to get the -20% HP of Chronos ? Wouldnt that speed the fight for a few sec ?
It increases the chamber count and will put more enemies in the rest of the chambers
Wait what? Visiting a Hades chamber in Tartarus has a negative impact on the next few chambers?
@@l.n.3372 yeah, the upside doesn't outweigh the downside. I wonder if this applies to any chamber other than the numbered ones
@@ruxbon maybe it's not worth visiting in a speed run, but its always worth visiting in a casual run. the positives always outweigh the negatives b/c if you're comfortable with Tartarus, then a few extra chambers or enemies doesn't matter at all. by now, I am fine with Tartarus so I go out of my way to get extra money, poms and boons in Tartarus before reaching Chronos. thus, I do not care if the Hades detour adds more chambers and enemies too
@@l.n.3372 oh, that's for sure. I wasn't talking about casual play, I had speedrun in mind bc in the video he was trying to go fast
unfortunately it might also be better to avoid it on high fear if vow of desperation is on and it felt like this problem also happened whenever a chamber with a reward is chosen, that's why I wonder if that's a thing, too 🤔
The greenscreen effect on the brim of your hat is trippy and mildly distracting. I love it. The run is cool too.
nice one. good rngod. maybe could have yoloed 2nd shot during beginning of 2nd life. but still nice one
7:40 What happens if this occurs when you are on 0 DDs against Chronos? You kill him exactly as you hit 0 HP, no Engraved Pin? Do you die or do you win?
happened to me in hades 1, i won tho
Do you plan on making a. 32 heat video before 1.0 of after?
He already made one
Already made one! ruclips.net/video/sX0MjgoUcRA/видео.html
Unfortunately making guides around what builds to use for it is difficult since the game is changing very quickly. I got lots of plans for different helpful guides in the future though.
@@Haelian thank you i apreciate the reply!
Why do you tend to avoid boons that "throw" the cast forward like Zeus and Hestia? They are super useful
They take more time, and you have to kinda aim them
Tried aphro on special with Pan but it's pretty weak. I don't quite understand why Poseidon is so strong on some effects or when to choose aphro for high dmg % over other gods (Hestia, Poseidon, etc). Is it just random? Or based on how the devs designed the aspect?
Faster hitting weapons like Pan benefit from on hit effects more (i.e. Poseidon). Slower hitting weapons that have a higher base damage will benefit more from gods like Aphrodite.
@@Haelian That makes sense now! Thanks Haelian, I'll keep that in mind when trying different aspects
I mean Pan is gonna get massively nerfed by 1.0 anyway, I wonder how weak it's gonna be by then. Super broken right now
Finally tweaked 32 nightmare and pan to beat the surface. What a PAN in the ass it was to do....
Only thing that bothers me alittle is the dash is slightly slower then zags otherwise I love the game and one of my favorites
how do u deactivate the Centaur card?
Had to get a new save that never unlocks it, it's available here www.speedrun.com/hades2/resources
is aphro or poseidon on special better?
Poseidon. Knock back saves health. But that's how I like to play
Aphro kills quicker but "up close" with 30 health...is yick to me
The joy of the game is testing it to see what works better =D
Because the special has a small base, the flat damage of the waves is significantly bigger than the percentage increase from aphro
@@munchlacks2900 Also unless you're talking about a massive rarity difference, the additional damage from the waves that's applied separably from the base damage is pretty much always better for dealing with enemy Armor than the flat % increase of Aphro.
Edit: There's also the fact that with some luck you can get Slippery Slope to apply Slip with Poseidon's special to put towards Origination, where unless I'm forgetting a boon, Aphro's Weak can only be applied via her Dash, Cast, or Gain.
Aphro's Cast is probably the ideal boon of her's to use for Pan builds, since it draws enemies both into the cast and close together to maximize hits, and applies Weak towards Origination.
I’m confused about the Spiral Knives pick over Dancing Knives. In my mind, shooting your knives 360 degrees around you wastes a lot of damage because when you don’t have your cast to make them home in, they just miss. Wouldn’t it be better to keep the fan pattern so you could still bonk the enemies in front of you? Also, does the “up to 16 knives” part of the hammer just ruin the extra knives you get from Pan? The description alone makes it seem that way but I’d love to know if it behaves differently than I think. Obviously you were super strong already at that point, so it didn’t matter much anyways
Aspect of Pan makes all the knives go to the cast
Idk if you've done it already but I think a neat idea for a run would be finishing while still wearing a dress from Arachne
Yeah we've done it a couple of times, not positive which videos though honestly.
I still don't know what origination means....
It's the Arcana card that increases your damage by 50% against enemies with 2 or more Curses on them.
@@Haelian Oof shoulda known...Thanks dude!
Hey Haelian great vid as always! Just a question, why do you put heats in your time trials? Shouldn't be faster without?
Added speed is beneficial for speed runs. Adding a timer is free fear. You can banish boons to make hitting the legendary requirements a bit easier but with a trade off
Vow of Fury means enemies spawn faster, that's probably all we have on here besides Vow of Desperation which doesn't matter (Tight Deadline).
how is the 13th arcana card disabled? i can't disable it no matter what i do
Started a new save, never unlocked that card
Support Fire infinite pog
How did you get the file with no centaur unlocked? Thought I saw in another vid you downloaded it. Was that difficult to do? Kinda just considering starting another file so I can have it for these kind of runs. Anyways great video and GL on future (speed)runs
Nah it's really easy, it's available for everyone here with instructions: www.speedrun.com/hades2/resources
@@Haelian thank you so much really appreciated! Again, gl with the content
@@Haelianbut should we really modify our runs? These plays won't be possible for those who don't use modified arcana boards
Oh I get it it's just a save file. Cool shit
how are you greying an arcana card out?
not possible, he is using a special speeed runner save file where this card was never unlocked
i love Aphrodite shotgun more
Aphro shotgun + aspect of artemis crits = orgasmic damage
What was the nerf to Pan?
Only thing I can think of is the hook knives hammer slight nerf, but otherwise aspect of Pan was untouched I think.
Not directly, but the hammers that were good for Pan are changed
Concentrated Flurries are cut from the game entirely
Hook knives no longer have DMG bonus and return slower
@@Fluffehbunnehh The patch notes only seem to say that hook knives speed was reduced but the damage boost is still there, haven’t seen it in game to verify though.
@@Coran_06 The patch notes say the hook knives dmg boost are removed. And I can verify it no longer has it in game cause I got it last run. That said, it's still a great hammer. Compared to what it offers, the nerf is minuscule.
@@Fluffehbunnehh Yeah you’re right, just got it in one of my runs. I read the patch notes initially off the discord and didn’t see any mention of it so maybe that’s why.
see white lantern build - close immediately
this thing is overpowered
if you're doing speed runs you play with the best stuff.