German here, I try to visit Groningen at least once a year. Love the beautiful city, the nice people, great food and drinks, and of cause the coffee shops.
I live in Groningen, and riding my bicycle probably always saves me time in comparison with taking the car. You also have to be aware of all the cyclists left and right of you when driving a car here, which can be really dangerous. So taking the bicycle is just 10x better.
The city I was born in. I live in the countryside now, but still love to visit the city. Thats how Groningers everywhere in the province talk about Groningen: The City.
Yay! I'm from Groningen (the provence, not the city ) I went to school in the city. I had to cycle everyday to school. One hour to get there and one hour to get home... it was normal... and in all kinds of wheather...
Yeah, I lived in Groningen when they started the dividing the center in 4 sectors. Before that you could drive the car all through the center. That was around 1982/1983. And in the years it ony got better. I now live near Rotterdam and that is a different city, famous fot other things. But cycling through that city is a very good possibility too. But yeah, Groningen is the best example how to do it, and still progressing.
Coming from Groningen I recently voted for a new quay layout, they opted the 3 favourites from a previous submissions which where also publicly chosen.
14:06 that is the new ringroad project, almost finished, it moves cartraffic away from the city, the through traffic is underground, or bypassed more logically then the 1970's ringroad was, no traffic lights at all, overpasses, fly-overs or tunnels
Foreign cycling advocates tend to be in awe about specific Dutch cycling infrastructure and focus on building it, but in Groningen it al started with a plan for one way traffic for cars, and the cyclists took over. Cyclists don't need much besides two wheels, it's the cars that need cycle lanes no to disturb them. When the "all directions green" was introduced at that crossing I just took part without noticing the change of the rules. 'Negotiating' with other cyclists is a daily routine in Groningen. In Rotterdam it failed at first and people crashed, because it was one of the least cycling cities in the Netherlands, but now they are used to it there too.
Oh i did not know that about Rotterdam. I heard they tried it but i thought they did away with it after the first failed attempt. Its nice to hear they kept up with it.
Groningen is a great city indeed. I personally don’t like the all green traffic lights, however that is because off my autism (too many things happening at once) and not because it is a bad system.
5:57 Friday or saturday at dusk that exact spot is so packed you could have 200 people in shot. Shopping street is twice as wide and gets so packed on saturdays that you can't see 15 feet in front of you for all the shoppers heading north-south. Feels like Times Square, for real. Also, a bus to my hometown suburb leaves EVERY 10 MINUTES!!! 13:25 Saw the Forum being built from another big tower where I work. Called it an Anime villain's base. Still don't disagree. It's not for people with fear of heights. 14:00 That's the ring-south highway upgrade. Bane of my commute right now, but when it's done, it's gonna have a _park_ under it! Also because Netherland Swampland I'm seeing them dig 40-foot-deep pits the size of olympic swimming pools just to anchor the monstrous thing properly. Also I live inside that maqette. You've seen my house! :D
Very interesting. My mother was born in Groningen and my grandparents and other family lived there a lot has changed for the better in the past the centre was full of cars, now it looks better. I hope they will do the same in Amsterdam.
I still don’t have a driver’s license, most probably because I lived in Groningen back when I had the learning-to-drive age. I didn’t need a car in Groningen back then and I still don’t (most of the time). 😉
I would strongly disagree. Buses still stop right at the edges of the city center (which is not very big) and it is still possible to park your car at Kwinkenplein next to the Martini tower if you have a disability card. My husband uses a wheelchair and I can assure you that he is not negatively impacted by the new situation. On the contrary, the ever improving walking and biking infrastructure only benefits people in wheelchairs or scootmobiles. Take the Grote Markt: everything from the Forum to the Vismarkt has completely been leveled recently, no more curbs to be seen. The same was done to the Folkingestraat and Brugstraat a few years ago, which is a great improvement for people with disabilities.
14:00 september 2024..this actual Grote Markt bus free is realised.. Maket has meen dug up, re streeted ( if that is a word) and no busses are allowed. Only walking and cyckling, and ofcourse the emernecy vehicles and supplie vehicles are alowed, nothing else.. and the sound of the city... to die for.. you hear bird chirp, and the buzzing "noise" of people talking.. the city is alive..truly alive.. Olg Grey One looks down in pride.. not the tallest in the land anymore, but he overlooks the most living city in The Netherlands !!
14:03 the busses banned isn't all well.. older and handicapped now have to walk from where busses are parked to get in to city centre... keep the busses, they are essential for these people!!
They, the disabled and elderly, need to walk or use other aids, no matter where the bus drops them of. Special transport services are still allowed to drive into the city.
Groningen used to be better 30-40 years ago, much livelier than now. It has since slowly died. I say that as someone born, raised and living in Groningen. Also I never go into the city to do shopping. I rather go to the villages around Groningen or order online nowadays. The bike parking problem is the stray bikes that were stolen or just dumped after students finished their studies and wanted to get rid of their bike, since they couldn't or didn't want to take it home with them. Something that wouldn't happen with cars! Busses only going to the edge of the city center means that the elderly and disabled NEVER EVER can get into the city center again to go to the market and buy their produce, as they had done their whole life. It's utterly retarded and destroys the economy, and yes getting rid of cars and busses HAS destroyed the economy in the city center dispite what the video and anti-combustion engine politicians want you to believe. The shop diversity has gone down, there are A TON of empty shops now because of bankruptcies due to outrages levels of rent. For a small shop it's already 4000 euro per month I believe, and that's just renting the shop. You still need to heat it, ensure it and so on.
Any city allows cars carrying handicapped people to enter the pedestrian zone. So stop spreading BS. You don't win the argument by adding fantasy to the discussion. Prices for renting a shop are determined by demand and supply. So, when the rent is high, the demand is there !
@@xFD2x With handicapped I meant those people who are lightly handicapped and are not yet allowed to use those services. Also when you talk with the elderly and handicapped, like my own grandmother for example, than you know that whilst the service is offered they don't run on time and sometimes taxis ordered aren't arriving at all. So when people can they often wish to choose the normal services whenever they can, as that is less of a hassle. However, furthering those rides from the city center makes it impossible. So stop being a know it all. You don't live in this city I reckon, but I do.
@@xFD2x I am working on it and I do provide feedback to my city council via a feedback group. It falls onto deaf ears though. So you are making random accusations whilst not knowing shit about this town or me in person. Yes, people from other towns and cities should worry about their own matters in their own town or city. Don't write comments when your nonsense in based on random assumptions whilst not knowing anything at all about how it all factually plays out in the real world for the residents. Now go work on your own shit instead of craping on others without reason.
Why are you being so negative? I was born in Groningen and lived there most of my live (I’m 53). I’ve seen a lot of improvements in the infrastructure that increased livability, mainly in the last 20 years. My neighbourhood de Oosterpoort (10 min. walk from the city centre) has recently been remodelled by widening the sidewalks, lowering the speed limit from 50 km to 30 km and putting in some ramps. It’s a huge improvement, also for my disabled husband. And I’ve seen many more in every part of the city. The fact that some stores were forced to close has nothing to do with the banning of cars (that happened in the seventies) but with the rise of online shopping. Every western city has to deal with this. And high rents are rather an indicator of a popular location with good infrastructure than the lack of it. Critisism is fine and can be very useful sometimes, but don’t forget to also count your blessings, because Groningen is really an exceptional city if you compare it to other European cities and especially American cities.
German here, I try to visit Groningen at least once a year.
Love the beautiful city, the nice people, great food and drinks, and of cause the coffee shops.
✌🧡🇩🇪
I live in Groningen, and riding my bicycle probably always saves me time in comparison with taking the car. You also have to be aware of all the cyclists left and right of you when driving a car here, which can be really dangerous. So taking the bicycle is just 10x better.
The city I was born in. I live in the countryside now, but still love to visit the city.
Thats how Groningers everywhere in the province talk about Groningen: The City.
Groningen is tiny with a huge student population. Many Dutch towns are very walkable and have gone through the same process and have the same result.
yep, one quarter of the Groningen population are students!
It's tiny in overall size and amount of citizens. But looking just at the city center it's just as large as many American downtowns.
Yes Groningen my City 💪
Yay! I'm from Groningen (the provence, not the city ) I went to school in the city. I had to cycle everyday to school. One hour to get there and one hour to get home... it was normal... and in all kinds of wheather...
Yeah, I lived in Groningen when they started the dividing the center in 4 sectors. Before that you could drive the car all through the center. That was around 1982/1983.
And in the years it ony got better. I now live near Rotterdam and that is a different city, famous fot other things. But cycling through that city is a very good possibility too.
But yeah, Groningen is the best example how to do it, and still progressing.
Hey! That's where I live!
5:48 Yup, that definitely looks like a calm day.
Coming from Groningen I recently voted for a new quay layout, they opted the 3 favourites from a previous submissions which where also publicly chosen.
14:06 that is the new ringroad project, almost finished, it moves cartraffic away from the city, the through traffic is underground, or bypassed more logically then the 1970's ringroad was, no traffic lights at all, overpasses, fly-overs or tunnels
Er gaat niets boven Groningen,,, greetings from Groningen, City of Talent
Most cities have it, like Amsterdam at central station and here in Zaandam. You can view new plans in both photographs and models.
Foreign cycling advocates tend to be in awe about specific Dutch cycling infrastructure and focus on building it, but in Groningen it al started with a plan for one way traffic for cars, and the cyclists took over. Cyclists don't need much besides two wheels, it's the cars that need cycle lanes no to disturb them.
When the "all directions green" was introduced at that crossing I just took part without noticing the change of the rules. 'Negotiating' with other cyclists is a daily routine in Groningen. In Rotterdam it failed at first and people crashed, because it was one of the least cycling cities in the Netherlands, but now they are used to it there too.
Oh i did not know that about Rotterdam. I heard they tried it but i thought they did away with it after the first failed attempt. Its nice to hear they kept up with it.
Shout out for Ronny with his perfect pronounciation of Groningen 😜. Great reaction Highly! BTW Emma agrees😂!
Groningen is a great city indeed. I personally don’t like the all green traffic lights, however that is because off my autism (too many things happening at once) and not because it is a bad system.
5:57 Friday or saturday at dusk that exact spot is so packed you could have 200 people in shot.
Shopping street is twice as wide and gets so packed on saturdays that you can't see 15 feet in front of you for all the shoppers heading north-south. Feels like Times Square, for real.
Also, a bus to my hometown suburb leaves EVERY 10 MINUTES!!!
13:25 Saw the Forum being built from another big tower where I work. Called it an Anime villain's base. Still don't disagree. It's not for people with fear of heights.
14:00 That's the ring-south highway upgrade. Bane of my commute right now, but when it's done, it's gonna have a _park_ under it! Also because Netherland Swampland I'm seeing them dig 40-foot-deep pits the size of olympic swimming pools just to anchor the monstrous thing properly.
Also I live inside that maqette. You've seen my house! :D
Thanks HxC, I appreciate your comment.👍👍👍
Groetjes uit Groningen van een Brabander.
Nog een Brabander in Groningen :p
My hometown ✌️
1:48 at this moment, Groningen is the only city in The Netherlands without a closing time for clubs, bars and cafe's.. 24 hours a day, 7 days a week
Very interesting. My mother was born in Groningen and my grandparents and other family lived there a lot has changed for the better in the past the centre was full of cars, now it looks better. I hope they will do the same in Amsterdam.
Did you know that the Dutch Minister President (PM) his bike has a higher value than his car( valued about 1000€)
I still don’t have a driver’s license, most probably because I lived in Groningen back when I had the learning-to-drive age. I didn’t need a car in Groningen back then and I still don’t (most of the time). 😉
And now there are no buses stopping in the centrum, that’s a big problem for people who can’t walk so much.
I would strongly disagree. Buses still stop right at the edges of the city center (which is not very big) and it is still possible to park your car at Kwinkenplein next to the Martini tower if you have a disability card. My husband uses a wheelchair and I can assure you that he is not negatively impacted by the new situation. On the contrary, the ever improving walking and biking infrastructure only benefits people in wheelchairs or scootmobiles. Take the Grote Markt: everything from the Forum to the Vismarkt has completely been leveled recently, no more curbs to be seen. The same was done to the Folkingestraat and Brugstraat a few years ago, which is a great improvement for people with disabilities.
My home town!!
Been there ☺️ very nice city.
14:00 september 2024..this actual Grote Markt bus free is realised.. Maket has meen dug up, re streeted ( if that is a word) and no busses are allowed. Only walking and cyckling, and ofcourse the emernecy vehicles and supplie vehicles are alowed, nothing else.. and the sound of the city... to die for.. you hear bird chirp, and the buzzing "noise" of people talking.. the city is alive..truly alive.. Olg Grey One looks down in pride.. not the tallest in the land anymore, but he overlooks the most living city in The Netherlands !!
Live 25 km from Groningen. In Blauwestad (Bluecity) with the longest bike bridge in Europe. 🦽🚴🏻
groningen my heart
💚GRONINGEN💚
Hey this is my city ! :)
The music is Penny Lane by the Beatles.........
Definitely walkable
Groningen 💚🤍
He my home town 👍🏻
14:03 the busses banned isn't all well.. older and handicapped now have to walk from where busses are parked to get in to city centre... keep the busses, they are essential for these people!!
They, the disabled and elderly, need to walk or use other aids, no matter where the bus drops them of. Special transport services are still allowed to drive into the city.
I know which city isn't': Veenendaal. As a pedestrian, you fear every paving stone. 🙄
Never bin to Haarlem ?
Bicycles are better for everything😉 For the climate/nature🌱, for your own health💪 and for your wallet💰
Very walkable because ... pretty small.
I live in Groningen
2:14 why does he speaks geman? its the Netherlands..
It's probably a German interviewer.
15;31 ... and ofcourse There has to be some climate change... here it is...
Groningen used to be better 30-40 years ago, much livelier than now. It has since slowly died. I say that as someone born, raised and living in Groningen. Also I never go into the city to do shopping. I rather go to the villages around Groningen or order online nowadays.
The bike parking problem is the stray bikes that were stolen or just dumped after students finished their studies and wanted to get rid of their bike, since they couldn't or didn't want to take it home with them. Something that wouldn't happen with cars!
Busses only going to the edge of the city center means that the elderly and disabled NEVER EVER can get into the city center again to go to the market and buy their produce, as they had done their whole life. It's utterly retarded and destroys the economy, and yes getting rid of cars and busses HAS destroyed the economy in the city center dispite what the video and anti-combustion engine politicians want you to believe. The shop diversity has gone down, there are A TON of empty shops now because of bankruptcies due to outrages levels of rent. For a small shop it's already 4000 euro per month I believe, and that's just renting the shop. You still need to heat it, ensure it and so on.
Any city allows cars carrying handicapped people to enter the pedestrian zone. So stop spreading BS.
You don't win the argument by adding fantasy to the discussion.
Prices for renting a shop are determined by demand and supply. So, when the rent is high, the demand is there !
@@xFD2x With handicapped I meant those people who are lightly handicapped and are not yet allowed to use those services.
Also when you talk with the elderly and handicapped, like my own grandmother for example, than you know that whilst the service is offered they don't run on time and sometimes taxis ordered aren't arriving at all.
So when people can they often wish to choose the normal services whenever they can, as that is less of a hassle. However, furthering those rides from the city center makes it impossible.
So stop being a know it all. You don't live in this city I reckon, but I do.
@@LogiForce86
" than you know that whilst the service is offered they don't run on time and sometimes taxis ordered aren't arriving at all."
@@xFD2x I am working on it and I do provide feedback to my city council via a feedback group. It falls onto deaf ears though.
So you are making random accusations whilst not knowing shit about this town or me in person.
Yes, people from other towns and cities should worry about their own matters in their own town or city.
Don't write comments when your nonsense in based on random assumptions whilst not knowing anything at all about how it all factually plays out in the real world for the residents.
Now go work on your own shit instead of craping on others without reason.
Why are you being so negative? I was born in Groningen and lived there most of my live (I’m 53). I’ve seen a lot of improvements in the infrastructure that increased livability, mainly in the last 20 years. My neighbourhood de Oosterpoort (10 min. walk from the city centre) has recently been remodelled by widening the sidewalks, lowering the speed limit from 50 km to 30 km and putting in some ramps. It’s a huge improvement, also for my disabled husband. And I’ve seen many more in every part of the city.
The fact that some stores were forced to close has nothing to do with the banning of cars (that happened in the seventies) but with the rise of online shopping. Every western city has to deal with this. And high rents are rather an indicator of a popular location with good infrastructure than the lack of it.
Critisism is fine and can be very useful sometimes, but don’t forget to also count your blessings, because Groningen is really an exceptional city if you compare it to other European cities and especially American cities.
Propaganda video .hh .Not true story .hh