Duplicating an Antique Stagecoach Turn Buckle | Engels Coach Shop
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- Опубликовано: 6 фев 2025
- Stagecoaches are suspended on leather straps, which are adjusted by unique turn buckles. On this coach, one was missing, so I had to duplicate the other in order for this coach to function. Was it worth the time and effort? Building and restoring horse drawn vehicles often involves a value system beyond time and materials. Where do you get a part that doesn't exist anymore? You fabricate it.
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You should stamp a makers mark into stuff like that. Craftsmanship deserves recognition.
I have said before that Dave should have a branding iron to mark his work.
But he's like my mom, who was a China painter. She never signed anything that wasn't an Orginal. Copies of others' work or what she did in a classroom are all blank.
Would be, on a "new build". Interesting thought.
@@Garth2011 Well said, i would think any any mark on something like that he would put the original mark, or just leave it blank like it is
If nothing else, burn it into the backs of every seat, and on the front of the driver's seat so everyone knows where it re-originated from. I could also see it forged into some of the steel (iron). His video is proof of what he has done, but sometimes you can't watch a video while out on the prairie. 😄
There is a full video record on this carriage. It’s like 94% brand new! 😉
You are an amazingly talented man, a creator, just like our heavenly father! God Bless!
Dave, the way you do it is the main reason the ppl come to you to bring back their historic/family belongings in an almost original state
To me this is one of the best 5 RUclips Channels at all. Greetings from Germany.
I’m a little late to the party here, but after getting caught up on some of Dave’s past videos, I had to chuckle when he said “I’ll see if I can make one kind of close to the original”. We all know by now that it will be a lot better than kind of close to the original. His pursuit of perfection in recreating, and creativity to get there is one of the many things that I really enjoy seeing.
Nicely done Dave, and Diane. 😊
Stopped by on Wednesday and took a picture out front of the shop. Felt like visiting an old friend.
Of course it was worth it. You walk in the shoes of the original builder, getting inside his thought process and solving the problems he solved. 👍 x 100.
"But dad, nobody will ever see that side of it. Why sand it so smooth?" "Because I'll know." I hope he kept that lesson throughout his life. I think he did. Mr. Engels, thanks for another excellent video.
Yes...lots of modern folks today just don't get it.
I don't work with wood or steel, but software: and I'm asked from time to time why I bother with details that "no one will ever see." I thank my dad who cared about craftsmanship and passed it along to me.
Yuuup - my Dad was like that - a picky perfectionist !!
As I've heard it said: A Man Running In Fear of His Life Would Never Notice!!! I LIKE it!!! Thanks D & D!!! :-)
Dave: I absolutely think it was worth it. The commenter who suggested you go to Tractor Supply and buy a 3-point hitch turnbuckle just doesn't get the mindset.
Thank you for taking the path you did.
It’s always worth it. The extra steps + attention to detail = exceptional quality = more value. We mustn’t lose sight of that. ✌🏻❤️🇺🇸🙏🏻
I agree
I agree with you, of course it worth it.
A true craftsman knows that "good enough" is not good enough. The little more effort it takes is like seasoning a fine meal. The bland meal will be "good enough", but the seasoned meal has become a feast. So much more satisfying.
You could of gone and welded something ugly. But that is not what you are about. You are about challenging your skill set even though you are a master craftman in your field. Always challenging yourself to put all your expert skills to the test. Thank you Dave for being that example to all the young people, that are getting started in their crafts, to get out their and just use the brain to figure things out and make something beautiful.
I make furniture. Just a hobbyist. For a good length of time a friend would work with me. A number of pieces for their house. On occasion he would ask why I was being so "picky" about some aspect of what we were working on. My consistent reply was that the work being done was not to impress anyone. It was being done for our satisfaction. Was that extra effort worth our time? Of course. And that approach/attitude is why I find so much enjoyment in watching your work, Dave.
Fine furniture is all about being picky. Lots of fine things are and if its worth making, its worth making it right.
ˆWhat I do, I do for my customer. The way I do it, I do for me.ˆ
Where else can you see precision machining with a tape measure!?
I would have handed him an Ikea catalog and send him on his way.
@@BOBPortlandOr Not for one's best friend. After we had worked on a couple of projects together his wife thanked me for teaching him patience. Lost to cancer 18 months ago.
You are one of few who can draw circles on an Etch-a-Sketch!
I think there should be a people category of National Treasures and you should be at the top of the list!
As my brother says, Not Just Good, but Good Enough. Well done again.
The level of craftsmanship reflects and confirms the character of the craftsman, especially to himself. That's why people like Dave are unwavering in their commitment to the quality of their work, even when no one else will see it. They also know that not every piece they build requires the same top-level attention to detail. Structural lumber doesn't usually deserve the same attention given to cabinets, furniture, or musical instruments. Dave has demonstrated that he is equally capable of building fences and barn additions, but he doesn't waste his valuable time and energy polishing fence posts! Not every craftsman will draw lines in the same places, but each one will have a sense of purpose and reason for the decisions he makes. Thanks, Dave for your contribution to your craft.
Of course it was worth it. The last pocket knife maker in Sheffield uk died a few years ago ( I think he was in his early nineties) and unfortunately for us all the ability to make videos like yours was not available so his talent may have gone forever.He made pocket knives for royalty,crowned heads and princess and his knives today are greatly sought after. The point I want to make is that the skill you have shown in this video means that the skills of the past go on so that in future someone will say “ that’s how to do it “.
Just the amount of pleasure and satisfaction it gave me watching the video, makes it absolutely worth it.
‘Was it worth it’? Of course it was. It is always worth doing it right. Dave does it right and we watch in amazement and appreciation of a craftsman and an artisan enjoying his work and craft.
The extra work is always worth it.Your not only paying for the integrity of the work,but buying the limited time of a master craftsman.
Man on a fast horse couldn't tell the difference between the original and the new, fine job.
My wife loves watching me reproduce old pieces to match the original furniture. As I, too, have been working with my hands for over 55 years. The knowledge that I gained and have shared with so many apprentices.....has been well worth the effort. I started at 13 years of age, and many of my mentors were in their 50s - 70's. The best part of your videos is that they are kept simple. God bless you! Peace and Joy!
Although we will never meet,i,,Enjoy watching a master perform.a ryhme and reason for all u do.dave wants a Makita sponsorship.
A friend, who sort of taught, sort of allowed me to learn on my own, blacksmithing, said that a person should have pride in their work. Otherwise, they're just a hack. And, you, Sir, are no hack!
Was it worth it? Oh, heck, yeah! If for no other reason than we get the pleasure of enjoying watching your process :-)
That was a nice bit of work. Yeah, it was worth it, not only for the authentic look and function but for the satisfaction of the end result. You may never do another, but you can.
This is not just blacksmithing, this is Art, and art is always worth it.
I am son of a wheelwright maker and black smith in nineteen forties, I myself am over eighty years old living in Canada for last 67 years. love to watch your videos a lot admire your skills and have never forgotten the time spent in my fathers shop as a youngster how much its the same and yet so much different trying things and not having hydro in them days. If I would have stayed there I probably would be in that kind of work. I have been watching your shows for a long time and always look forward to a new one. PS love your farm work as I was a farmer son.:)
We're glad you enjoy them
They say, the proof of the pudding is in the eating, and in the same ilk, the craftmanship of items still existing from the old days, is proof the old ways are often better..
I always turn up the speed to 1.25 so the spoken word is more like I'm used to here in Europe, but boy does that power hammer go crazy fast. And as for it being worth the time and effort, of course it was. We got to see the master at work.
Making such an accurate copy is worth the effort. When this wagon is examined up close, no one will know the new from old hardware. That's the mark of a good restoration.
I bet your neighbors hate it when you use that power hammer. I enjoy your show, please keep up the good work.
I don't think he has neighbors close enough to hear it.
@@TheFiberFrontier his shop is in town.
Was it worth it ...an excellent yes for you to be able to turn your self to make any thing I find absolutely brilliant.
This is what restoration is all about to make what is already
In use and to match is excellent.
Keep up the great work 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Your appreciation for the “old time” craftsmen is to be commended, as I was told long ago, Any Job worth doing is a job worth doing well”. I think your ethic and eye for to detail makes this, and everything you, do is a job worth doing and doing well. It brings you satisfaction and pleasure in your work. What you do requires someone like you to do.
NICE !!! You are not just building a "buggy" you are preserving history.
It was worth it to us viewers, to have the privilege of watching a true craftsman in action. Thankyou.
What you do is awesome, My grandfather farmed with horses. I was a toddler but he would take me with him when he disc the field. I still value old school. God bless you for keeping old school alive.
"Was it worth it?" It was not only worth it but it was absolutely mandatory. It had to be done to preserve the look and character of the wagon. Just any old piece just would not do. And you not only did it but you did it extremely well. 👍👍Thank you for sharing. Have a great day and stay safe.🙂🙂
Definitly worth it.
If it is a restoration and it aint done right, its a restomod.
You could have bought a modern turnbuckle and modified it to be functionally equivalent to receive the leather straps and allow the wagon suspension to be properly adjusted. That would have been a repair. What you did Dave was the very definition of restoration.
Where to start? Master Carpenter? Blacksmith (that's metallurgist now-a-days), Coach painter, upholsterer, coach wright, wainwright, . . . I've forgotten something. When you say there is but one Dave Engels, you have still understated it. Thank you for these videos.
"Annealing" is making the metal as soft and flexible as possible. "Normalizing" is making the metal the same crystal structure throughout -- stress relieving and, at least partially annealing the metal to prevent cracking at corners and the like.
I believe it was worth it. To do anything less would be a disservice to the coach and owner. Thanks Dave for taking the time to so such fine work, you’re an inspiration. I’m hopeful some young folks are watching and they will be encouraged to do that same quality of work.
"Was it worth it?" In short, yes, absolutely. I mean, it's considered "antique" for a reason and let's face it. Nothing today is even remotely near as good as it was back then. Better materials... perhaps but, it's still down the craftsman that makes it. Great video as always :)
You sir, are a master of your trade. These young people will never know as much as you.
After warching Dave for longer than I want to admit I can say thatbhe does not always belive un pld sayings. I am thinking of that saying " Jack Of All Trades And Master Of None". Dave my be a jack of all trades when it comes to coach building/restoration but he sure is a Master of them all. Don't foget he also shows us his work around the farm and apartment building. I am glad he has this channel as it will be a record of his workmanship. keep them coming Dave
Your attention to detail is amazing. Why I enjoy watching you work. Btw watching from the Island of tobago.
Was it worth it heck ya it was so enjoyable watching a master craftsman at work as it always is. One of the best RUclips channels for sure
I'm in awe of your skill, patience and self satisfaction in doing a job right. Your client is a lucky fella.
I haven't yet seen a channel with a Makita sponsorship, so you're in good company there.
Yes Sr David it worth every penny, you should be proud because I am.
Evening Diane and Dave from North Carolina. Enjoyed the video. Yes, I think it's worth it and seeing your work for all these years now I wouldn't expect anything less from you. You do exceptional quality work. Thanks for the video and y'all take care and God bless.
Your metal turning and forging work is excellent. There's always something to learn by watching you work. Of course, the time spent, working on the turnbuckle is worth it. The customer expects that quality of work from you. The mud wagon rebuild has been a pleasure to watch. Stay safe.
As much as Dave is the artist I think Diane brings the work to light. I've been experimenting with editing video. It ain't easy by a long shot. So this week it's thumbs up to you both. 👍👍👍
So right. Good editing is never noticed. Bad right away. Inverse law of reward... Kind of like working hard on something that may not be seen. My Dad and I volunteered for many years as general fix-it types for a non-profit with over 50 buildings. We'd sometimes sign our work inside the walls. Never to be seen. As others have noted - it was a satisfaction of a job well done.
The effort you go through and the care you put into these projects would do the old black smiths and wagon builders proud.
All ways worth, at my church there was this old chair that needed some love, i could have fixed it but i decided to try to do it as close to original as i could , and i’m proud of the results
Any customer who entrusts you to rebuild such a vehicle would definitely believe that that craftsmanship was worth it. Wonderful, thanks
Man I wished I had Dave as my shop teacher in the early 80’s!
Hard to put a dollar amount on something like this
The question would be, is it worth the time? Absolutely. Beautiful workmanship.
Another great job my friend well done regards from England
After I retired @ 53
I worked on sail boats for 12 years. When I needed a new turnbuckle I ordered one from a catalog. This guy makes them. Such an artist! ❤
Yes it is worth it grandma always said do it right the first time and wright you will be money and time ahead and you know she was right 😊
Last night I watched an old black & white movie and in it was a mud wagon. It looked exactly like yours, except it had metal luggage racks on the roof.
There's something deeply satisfying watching you form metal parts.
Was it worth it? Options - 1) No suspension, therefore no wagon.... Nope. 2) Original? - Missing - Nope. 3) Make new by casting? Possible, but takes time & expertise to make a pattern & have it cast, then machined. 4) Make in shop. BINGO. Great work!
The attention to detail is always worth it when you behold the beauty of the finished product. Bravo.
Was it worth it? OH HECK YEAH ! ! ! ! ! I seriously had to really look three times at the two turnbuckles after they were painted to figure out which was the original. You are a combination of artist and magician. And I now know that (welding + flap disc + reheat) = (looks just like forged).... At the risk of swelling your head to where your cap doesn't fit this is some seriously nice work. Not a big stretch from what you do normally but it was a step or two extra for sure. And if the customer sees this video I sure hope that they fully appreciate your efforts. Of course it's also about your own commitment to your craft. And you certainly deserve the Gold Star Of The Day for this one component. And yeah, I agree with the idea of a proper Maker's Mark.
Worth it? Yes, if for no other reason than we get to see how it's done. That is pure gold for those of us with an intrest in such things.
What you do and the way you do it is the mark of a true craftsman. I agree with other comments that you should have a makers mark on your work.
I enjoy watching the step by step videos and if you did not show that Dave It just would not seam right , You are a Master Craftsman and even though I do not do this it is very interesting to see. I will keep watching.
You always go the extra mile and then some. The mark of a true craftsman.
Yes. It was totally worth it.
It was defiantly worth watching.
That power hammer is relentless
Most definitely worth the additional effort to make the repair look just like the original. I was impressed how well the new weldment looked like the original part after all the shaping, heat treatment, sand blasting and painting. Excellent craftsmanship -- as always.
Oh yes it was well worth it. I built an oak aluminium trailer here in Australia and needed a turnbuckle. Used stainless steel because of its era and love it. Thankyou for teaching us so much....
The king of remanufacturing original designs. Great job!!
Yip agree worth it for you, your customer and we watchers. Thanks Dave
Worth is aa relative value. The customer will probably get more than he's paying for, but the contentment and satisfaction for you cannot be quantified (if you're anything like me). 👍
Your video was certainly worth viewing, Dave! Soon we’ll see the finished mud wagon in all its antique glory.
Doing the job right is always worth it. I really enjoy watching how you recreate and improve old designs.
2 thouro brace turnbuckles (perfect) Dave it'll have to do challenge completed 👍
Worth it?
Definitely Yes!
You’re a master, Dave!
Hope to see you this August when we're in Montana. Missed you two years ago. Burch and Linda Bigsbyslur
Always a pleasure to watch you create the impossible.. Well done..
Since I did not have to do the work I say yes lol just kidding it had to be done you are the man thank you for caring
With all the other details you have worked out on this Mud Wagon duplicating the turn buckle is well worth your efforts! Thanks for your many videos!
Yes it was worth it. It’s how you take pride in your work and what it means to you as a master craftsman. I enjoy watching your videos and learning things that I my have never known or seen.
Thank you
Never boring, never tiring and always exciting! Craftsmanship is an art and a skill and a love. Cheers
Ya done good there Pilgrim!
Undoubtedly, but,definitely, …, knowledge, experience, and,attention to minute details, means , precision , accuracy, and perfection.
Dave it was definitely worth it, Diane thinks your worth it too , and Dave you must think Diane is worth it for editing these video's even if you don't tell her so...😊
Dave, nothing you do is easy, but I gotta say--you make it *look* easy, and I have a smile on my face the entire time watching you work your magic. Cheers!
As always; thanks for showing.
Worth it to me. Becoming a lost art, but pride of workmanship will always be worth it. Well done!!
It is very enjoyable watching you replicate something. You make it look so easy even though I know it is a challenge. I'm just a little bit jealous of your power hammer!
Definitely worth it.
Yes, it was worth it, both as a challenge to your skills and also as an addition to the authenticity of the project. Well done👍👍