Victor Davis Hanson | Afghanistan and America's Decline
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- Опубликовано: 10 май 2024
- In this Direct interview, John is joined by Victor Davis Hanson, Martin and Illie Anderson Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution. Dr. Hanson addresses Biden’s role in the Afghanistan crisis, increased tensions between China and the US, and the future of the US-Australia relationship. They also unpack the authoritarianism of woke politics, the mounting resistance against critical race theory in the West, and discuss Victor’s upcoming book, The Dying Citizen (October 2021).
Victor Davis Hanson is an American classicist, military historian, columnist, and farmer. He has been a commentator on contemporary politics for the National Review and The Washington Times and is currently the Martin and Illie Anderson Senior Fellow at Stanford University’s Hoover Institution.
In addition to writing hundreds of articles, book reviews and newspaper editorials, Hanson is also the author of twenty-four books. Hanson was awarded the National Humanities Medal in 2007 by President George W. Bush, and was a presidential appointee in 2007-08 on the American Battle Monuments Commission.
#Afghanistan #China #JoeBiden #Wokeness
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00:00 Introduction
01:45 Afghanistan: America's Worst Foreign Policy Disaster
08:54 Bipartisan Condemnation of Biden’s Withdrawal from Afghanistan
11:54 Was there ever hope for Afghanistan?
14:10 Didn’t Biden just follow Trump’s withdrawal plan?
21:33 Can the US abdicate its role as leader of the free world?
29:28 Wokeness: Authoritarianism in Disguise
39:29 Can the US be redeemed?
45:19 Will China profit from the fall of Afghanistan?
47:33 What’s the future of the US-Australia relationship?
55:21 Self-loathing in the West
1:01:59 Will the US re-evaluate their objectives in light of Afghanistan and China?
1:10:13 Backlash Against Critical Race Theory in the West
1:16:20 Victor’s Upcoming Book - The Dying Citizen
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There is no better, and no more in depth, discussion than between Mr Anderson and Dr Hanson. I treasure each of these discussions and the knowledge I gain from them.
If you don't already do so, you should follow Victor Davis Hanson
In these insane times, VDH is always a voice of clarity, reason, and truth.
UGH, correction: "GHW Bush promised Russia that NATO would NOT do that"
I hate this keyboard. Why is there no EDIT button on you tube?
VDH is an academic turned Trump propaganda shill.
@@zacharymittman5317 Butt hurt 🤕?
@Guy Fawkes55 Ah yes, I never saw that. Thank you!
@@zacharymittman5317 VDH must listen to the last 3 updates Alexander Mercouris made. It's not fake news or partisan, just facts, scary, dangerous facts. I hope China calls Biden and tells him what pentagon, state and NSC are up to before there is a war. Neocons are INSANE, absolutely INSANE. They went and did this insanity as Biden was on the phone with Xi saying the complete opposite! It's like OMG OMG.
Talk about “must-see” tv! Having John Anderson interview VDH… *THAT’S* must-see TV!
Required Viewing
So nice to hear sober rational thinking!
@@Toquer88 Definitely!
@@electroncommerce It sure is. At this point, it’s almost like breathing fresh air… when there isn’t any.
Great to hear these wise and deep patriots (both with farming backgrounds, interestingly)
Its so refreshing to hear an adult conversation
That’s a lot of waste.
And a voice of reason.
Mr. Davis is a treasure Trove for our country it's a treasure for us as Americans I'm so grateful that he's willing to speak out because it's not easy for people that do
It is Professor Hanson but keep listening. His word and lectures are will bring on good light.
@Guy Fawkes55 Yes, you are right. He is as smart as they come. Trump would have been wise to have had him on speed dial as all presidents should.
Court marshall millie
@@alanaadams7440
And "lock her up."
@@oldsalt8011: Trump never did the smart thing. That's why we voted his ass out of office.
This interview should be watched by every Australian citizen.
And American
Amen!
For sure!
Should be watched worldwide
ruclips.net/video/pJRAMR8tGkQ/видео.html
Every Australian should listen to Noam Chomsky instead.
After 10 years in the military back in the 70s I never heard an officer make a political statement. Now a days, the Generals both retired and active can't keep their damn mouths shut.
I never thought we could have a woke military
Perfect, I watched his lecture at Hillsdale College live yesterday. If I could ask VDH one question it would be could you consider living forever, the west needs him
His books will, but will our children be wise enough to read them?
If there is a RUclips with VDH it is the first I will watch, download and save the link of. Around his talk at 1:07:00 I am glad to see the rising anger however the mandatory vaccinations might "clean out" the best of the ranks of those who don't wish a heart or lung handicap for life given the poor treatment at the VA.
One of the best interviews of our time.
Thank you!
VDH - Priceless American Treasure.
Australians are our TRUE friends!
Together we will SURVIVE!
Oz is indeed a true friend of America -- in fact its most reliable ally since 1942, possibly since 1917. That alliance is going to strengthen greatly in the next few years.
Eh. Australia is forcing its citizens to stay inside with military surveillance in order to prevent people from getting a cold which isn't transmissible outdoors. I'm not sure how you remain friends with people like that.
As an Australian I have always looked up to and supported the US. We must stick together.
@@cosmicmuffet1053 Not the people’s fault. Their government. You must not respect fellow Americans. We have a tyrannical leader like they do.
@@cosmicmuffet1053 Australia is not a homogeneous monolith, and I refuse to cast aside my friends because their national leadership has had a stroke. We are in this together, forever.
I am 66 years old. Victor Hanson, is one of the wise elders, we were taught to listen and learn from, when I was growing up.. That doesn't happen much anymore. Thankfully, there are a few others like Jordan Peterson, and channels like this one..Thank you John.
So tell me there Guenther, exactly which branch of the Military did Victor serve in? Eh? If i'm doing my math correctly when Victor was 18 we were engaged in a stupid war in Vietnam, that aside from the terrain, is exactly like the stupid war we've been in for 20 years in Afghanistan. I would have assumed that a true patriot like Vic would have had his parents consent and sign-off on an early enrollment so that he could have joined up at say 16 or 17, given the "great patriot" that he is and that our country was at war and needed him. And yet i can't find any record of Vic serving our country in any branch of the military when our country needed him the most. Odd🤔 🇺🇸 . But now that he's too old to be drafted, and if he tried to enlist couldn't make it through Boot Camp, he's gonna talk all tough. Frankly, i find that kinda pathetic.
21 year old San Franciscan born American Jew and I love VDH and JBP and Christopher Hitchens and other "intellectual" types. I'm glad there are an abundance of wise people who've spent their lives giving their two cents on the many issues of the world. Helps me think through issues beyond my scope of knowledge.
@@lu77xiaojun37 I wouldn't know, I am not American. You do sound
Upset, were you in Vietnam?
@@guenthermichaels5303 I think it's a chinese troll account.
@@blablablayahoo I was wondering, CIA, China Intelligence Agency ? but didn't want to get into it..
So bravo, he earned some social credit points from CCP.
As a company grade officer working at a 4-star command, I concur with everything VDH said. general officers have completely sold out, totally woke and ineffective.
As a scientist for the Navy for decades it was sad to see our warfighters turn to politicians. So they can get promoted. We need another conservative president who can purge these officers from the rank. It’s unfortunate we have the same pu$$y president as those officers
@@jimsteinway695 I couldn’t agree more with you my friend. On every single word you said.
@@garlandremingtoniii1338 thanks, I worked with a lot of O5-O6. And you could see them change as they started worrying about promotions. Very few Flag officers were worth their pay grade. There were some. One day I was in the lab just off the flight line and in walks a 2 star Marine General who flew in, in his Harrier. That guy was still a warrior. In his flight suit not his Class As
Court marshall Millie
Sold out? Or infiltrated and compromised by communist China?
It’s absolutely criminal everyone involved in leaving those weapons should be arrested for arming terrorists!
And bombing a country for 20 years doesn't create terrorists at all? The latest USA just bombed that vehicle and killed mistly children. Yep. My be is that those parents aren't voting for "Team Murika" anytime soon.
V D Hanson, smartest man in USA. Without a doubt
You have Thomas Sowell, too.
They are good friends -I heard victor say they would have lunch together frequently-imagine those conversations-would love to know what Thomas thinks now -he did say in a recent interview before election-Biden would destroy the country-and he didn’t think we could come back from the damage-such scary times
There are *no more smart people* in America- the culture did away with that *forty years* ago.
that's not a very high bar...
Two of the greatest minds. A real pleasure to listen to your conversation. It did confirm my greatest fears however.
Yet would never get the top job maybe not rich and stupid enough in a country where being rich is considered being
Intelligent
Thank you so much Julie!
John Anderson and Dr. Hanson, both credits to their countries and each of us.
So much wisdom and intellect right there from the two above. Listen, learn and prevail!
Excellent talk. There needs to be push back against woke ideology.
How would you do that?
@@1958Jay1 protests, marches, talking with neighbours, making a concerted effort to boycott all things woke. create an alliance of professionals willing to protect each other and uphold the law & constitutions of each country? organize in the way the left does? make efforts to recruit people who have a voice online & on tv to share the same message at every opportunity!!! We need leadership!
@1958Jay1 I agree with SunnyJay post--well written. I would add the first step is to take this woke "revolution" seriously. It is a huge threat. The woke are trying to remold our society by intimidation. It is a power grab that knows no bounds. For example, one of my kids has been interviewing for a job. He was told there would be a special interview among others regarding diversity, equity, and inclusion. What is that you might ask? Google "interview questions on diversity, ..". The most sited 8 questions are the form, "if you aren't woke and actively and aggressive spreading the ideology, you aren't suitable for this job." The is so un-American. A complete afront to freedom of speech. Merit doesn't matter. They want party loyalty. The values of equal opportunity, equal before the law, judging people by their character, and that we will fight for the right of others to speak views with which we disagree are all examples of what made this great country. Also recommend Jordan Peterson. Push back against those pushing CRT. If they are woke, vote them out of office.
@@1958Jay1 Radical reforms in the education system.
Many thanks to the Honorable Mr. Anderson for these deeply meaningful and prescient conversations. Simply brilliant!
How the US committed suicide will be very clear to all future scholars.
It’s clear now: leftist infiltration.
You won't be able to read the books they write. They'll be in a foreign language.
Also listen to Dr. Hanson’s speech and introduction of his new book, The Dying Citizen, at Hillsdale College on September 8, 2021.
The speed at witch were rushing toward Armageddon is astounding.
Biden and his cabal the Democrats, Sores and Obama yes?
which*
we're
you don't have a choice. nobody does except the elitists and ruling class.
Suspicious observers, galactic current sheet, 12000 year cycle, is what Armageddon actually refers to, soon, it will make nuclear war look inviting.
John and VDH are a great combination. Keep up the great 👍 interviews and discussions.
Glad you like them! Thanks John!
If it were not for experienced pragmatic public intellectuals such as John and Victor posting their discussions for general consumption as counterpoint to the woke left screaming I would simply go mad.
AGREE 110%
Love the way you put that!
VDH's take on a military officer corps backlash to the wokeness of the top brass was welcome and refreshing.
Anytime VDH is speaking and I can listen I do. National treasure status indeed. That we have Biden as president and not a man such as Victor says all you need to know where this country is headed.
The 2020 Democratic Lineup Stank! What has become of America?
As Victor Hanson is on the Right it would have been up to the Republicans to nominate him instead of someone like Trump?
I would have much rather prefered to have Hanson over Trump.
Biden and Trump, two senile old men who both are unfit to be president. America, is this really the best we could do? :/
@@austinsmith3011 Only Trump could take down the Clinton Crooks. VDH would have been too much of a gentleman.
@@oldsalt8011
Trump took down the Clintons? :S
He promised to and all but he accomplished nothing in that regard?
@@austinsmith3011 The "pay for play" scheme of the Clinton Foundation/Hillary division of the "deep state" ended with Trump's surprise victory. Another part of the Populist challenge to the Globalist elite Super Structure was the exposure of the hedge fund racket given cover and actually "protection" by the corrupt politicians of both parties who took illicit offshore campaign contributions (the "talking points" of the "Russian lawyer" at the Trump Tower meeting that had already been delivered to the Trump Tower in English and discussed with Rep. Dana Rohrabacher and members of his House Subcommittee for Foreign Affairs and finally mentioned by Putin before the camera at the Helsinki Conference with Trump in July 2018 when he mentioned Bill Browder's associates -- the Ziff Brothers hedge fund which laundered money looted from Russia to the Democratic candidate Hillary). The set up of the Trump campaign as one of the "October Surprises" was foiled when Natalia Veselnitskaya took a translator who was used by the top Democrats including Obama -- not a secret meeting as the media planned to allege. The complicit Corporate Media didn't cover the exposure of Hunter Biden's activities which were standard operating procedure of the children of the elite politicians all over the world (the best example was Isabel dos Santos -- daughter of the "Socialist" leader of Angola -- who became a billionaire in part from contracts with China for phones). The short term gains to get Trump out of power are increasingly long term losses for the Globalist Cabal which is now being shattered. Hanson was talking about the military leaders not corrupted by the Military-Industrial Div. of the "deep state" taking a stand, as in a way the former military leader now president of Angola has pursued a campaign of exposing the rampant corruption resulting in Isabel dos Santos fleeing Angola. It is ironic that the Global Magnitsky Act passed by the U. S. Congress can be used to sanction not only Russian oligarchs who remained in Russia while so many fled to England as Bill Browder but also international crooks such as Isabel dos Santos and the hedge fund managers who invested so much against candidate Trump during 2016 and eventually some of the donors for the 2020 election will be exposed regardless of the "slam dunk" scheme created by the founder of Arabella Advisers who also helped to set up the scheme of the Clinton Foundation.
Yet another very good interview. Thank you both.
_"Dictatorship naturally arises out of democracy, and the most aggravated form of tyranny and slavery out of the most extreme liberty."_
-Plato, Republic, book 8, section 562
Yes democracy is the worst kind of government...apart from all the other kinds.
Democracy ain't perfect but does not necessarily lead to dictatorship and other firms of government have demonstrated themselves much more harmful than democracy.
Εύγε!
Love this 👍
I have read many of Victor Davis Hanson's insightful history books. I can highly recommend them, in particular, his 2017 the Second World Wars.
VDH commentating on history in real time - doesn’t get any better
He is so under rated. And I love the fact that he is a farmer..
@@brianmoran1196 Right. He doesn't place himself on those pedestals we see used so often these days.
Same!
Often wondered if the Republican party ran on single payer health care and paid tuition for degrees/technical courses/apprenticeships that led to actual employment, in return for an impermeable border and sending back the millions of illegal immigrants, America could perhaps move forward together. These seminal issues are not going to be resolved without compromise.
@@damienroberts934 Why do you think Democrats would ever agree to that? Trump already proposed legalizing the illegal aliens in exchange for border wall, end to change migration and removing the visa lottery. It was rejected by Democrats.
Your interview with Professor Victor Davis Hanson was illuminating,factual and likely will be proven prescient of the future of our Republic, as a Global leader and how we relate to our allies,adversaries and enemies.The State of the Union is in Intensive Care🇺🇸🇦🇺
Amen
Listening to VDH share his wisdom is priceless!
Thank you for such a wonderful discussion. It is really enlightening to actually hear the real truth. I'm not American but as an Indian, I can't help but think this retreat and repatriation is going to not only help the Taliban but also affect my country in a terrible manner. That being said ,a little voice in my head also tells me that the events transpired will help America in the long run. In the short term, America will face repudiation of their credibility but something tells me that it will be for the greater good.
VDH is excellent. His columns at American Greatness are required reading
Agreed! Check out one of his latest articles here: johnanderson.net.au/readings-victor-davis-hanson/
Thank You Sir 🙏
Orwell worried that we would be destroyed by things we hate, and Huxley worried that we would be destroyed by all the things we love. Pick your poison.
It's a buffet!
No mentions of Australia's descent into tyranny?
Thank you VDH, you are an American treasure!
Another excellent interview, appreciate you putting it together for us.
Superb interview as always. Thank you, John and Victor. Highly informative and thought provoking.
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it!
VDH thank you for your vast wise insight into the situation of the world and America today. Hope is only lost when a man gives up...I’m not giving up...America is also an idea, a beacon of hope that has had a deep value for the great swath of the human race. It won’t die quietly or soon!
So great to listen to an actual intelligent conversation. Thank you for posting.
Thank you Brian!
Dr. Hanson is speaking out as all leading intellectuals must in this time of created chaos from the forces of the Hard Left. Kudos to him! 👏🏻
On behalf of Dr Hansen's cultural home here in the Central Valley of California, the front lines of America's internal struggle, and throughout rural and patriotic America, to our Australian friends, anytime and anywhere brothers and sisters, for as long as we still have control of our homeland.
Mr. Anderson. I love your insight. I wish Australia still had a leader like you.
Victor Hanson, one of the finest, wisest intellects ever to inhabit this planet. Thanks to John Anderson for hosting this excellent interview.
Anderson is a valuable voice in support of non-Marxist reason in Oz, whose security relationship with the US is set to strengthen -- a development that will be reinforced after the GOP wins back Congress next year. As to Hanson, his remarkable erudition even includes familiarity with Australia's role in WW2.
The US alliance widely supported and supported by both sides of politics. It definitely doesn't (and shouldn't) depend on which US party holds the presidency or Congress.
Some former Australian leaders (most notably former PM Paul Keating) have called for Australia to have a less US-centric foreign policy, especially after the war in Iraq. Before Xi Jinping that idea was kind of reasonable, but right now very few people hold that opinion.
@@shazmosushi The US is utterly unreliable. It is a declining nation - economically, politically and socially - and it's military looks good on paper but hasn't won a major war since WWII. It's also an overstretched empire that no longer knows why it exists (it used to exist to protect the interests of the transnational corporations but these now can deal with China or any other country without reference to the US government's policies). I suspect the Australian government, as well as other allies, are reluctantly waking up to the realization that they are not going to be saved by Uncle Sam any more.
@@Chris-bf5jp declining nation… right. Keep drinking the koolaid
@@ClinicalDecisionYikesYT You have to have a more intelligent comeback than that, surely.
@@shazmosushi yet sadly it does depend on the party here in the 21st century, and will continue to until moderate left leaning patriots open their eyes to the radical marxists in control of their party and candidates, and who has been for the last 30, 50, 60 years..
I could listen to Victor Davis Hanson for hours. Everything he says is well thought out and accurate.
Excellent. Superb. Thank you for this level of discourse and analysis.
Fantastic interview as always!
Thanks for the support! It's greatly appreciated!
What a fantastic interview - 80+ minutes and I am still hungry for more
Well go make one of the YUUGE and famous Elvis banana and peanut butter sandwiches!
What a joy to listen to Two great thinkers Who fill me with hope
Great interview! What a treat to hear both of your opinions, observations and ideas!
Professor Hansen is absolutely brilliant and as a professor of such statue, he is unique for standing up to wokism that all of his colleagues are so afraid of. Although i disagree with him on a China issue, his speeches are a pot of gold and everyone should tune into
He is a worthless chickenhawk who talks tough sending others to war
@@bernieeod57 Thank you for a levelheaded and well informed input. The door is this way, byeee..
@@speggeri90 And who is going to force me out the door? You and your fellow loudmouth cowards? You can't fight! You can only talk tough while sending others to war!
@@bernieeod57 u mad bro?
@@speggeri90 Disgusted would be more accurate
Word. Prof. Hanson is a very enlightening public intellectual... always learn much from his penetrating insights.
Fantastic talk. Thank you
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it!
"Amen" he said, Amen came from his mouth right out of his heart...God bless you sir for your leadership and influence for the good
Great q&a sesh. Love these dudes
So excited to watch this, I've been waiting for another VDH/John Anderson interview since the last one was released months ago!
Thank you Mr. Hanson wonderful insight into these issues, and a wonderful interview as usual Mr. Anderson.
God bless you Australia. I love you.
Thank you Linda!
@@JohnAndersonConversations You are welcome. I enjoy your show very much. You are a gentleman, which I appreciate in this day and age. I am so worried for your country and mine.
Excellent analysis.
Thank God for Victor may his opinions, on the military, woke etc come to pass.
Outstanding discussion! Absolutely love Victor Hansen & John Anderson together.
That was awesome, powerful, and a bit upsetting, all wrapped up in one.
It has been said, and it applies now, "you get the government you deserve."
elections do have consequences dont they
Thank you for the interview.
So proud we do have a thinker of the caliber of victor it’s a miracle we’re a lucky nation.
Surprised Stanford hasn’t censored him yet.
He must be making Stanford some money via grants, endowments, and donor funds.
They have tried.
well done again John. Massive fan of VDH
Superb discussion. Hanson is so knowledgeable and expresses himself so well. Looking forward to his book.
Dr. Hanson is absolutely brilliant!!!
Two really smart and knowledgeable guys.
My two favorites in one show. Thank you gentlemen. The core of America - those of us who are the chumps and dregs of middle America are very much at our wits end with wokism and this shitty anti American Democratic Party.
Outstanding! Listener 100 miles away from Dr Hanson!
Refreshing voice of Reason . Thank You
Thanks for listening!
Brilliant. Simply brilliant.
An excellent interview. Such common sense from VDH. Thank you!
Thank you!
@@JohnAndersonConversations Amazing interview, congratulations. It should be seen by all Australians and Americans.
Great talk by VDH! He always speaks truth.
Brilliant, insightful, informative, as always.
👏👏👏
VDH gives me hope.
Love Victor Hanson.Smart man and he said the truth,we are in trouble😳
Fairly pessimistic but candid discourse that elegantly provides something of an overview of the cadences that are influencing and sweeping through western society, political and military diaspora. As always, hugely engaging and enlightening. Thank you, both.
I do hope that you will continue to grace us with your insight mr Hanson and it goes without saying that...well it goes without saying ..please take care♡
Lady Liberty
🗽❤still stands.
VDH is the G.O.A.T.!!!
As I remember, VDH was a leading neo-con who advocated the policy of nation-building in Iraq and Afghanistan. That policy has turned out to be a disaster twice over. Yet you don't catch any hint of mea culpa in anything VDH says.
Biden reversed all the nation building policy in about the amount of time it takes for him to not realize his depends need changed out,yet you project on VDH some kind of responsibility 4 mea culpa that he is not even procliveated or should be 2 make.Your comment is ignorant from start 2 end
@@curtiskretzer8898 hi, I found yr English hard to follow. However, even if you want to argue that Trump was a genius for coming up with the policy of withdrawl but Biden was a idiot for implementing it, you're ignoring the bigger picture; which is that 20 years of both R and D policies failed to produce an Afghan government that could last a week unaided. That means accepting that the whole neo-con project of parachuting in a democracy was fundamentally flawed. Staying in the comfort zone of 'everything bad is the fault of the Liberals', only postpones that reckoning IMO
Thanks so so so much. I adore Victor Hanson. Such a wise outstanding analytical MIND.
Very very straight forward and pertinent discussion….must watch, thanks Dr.
I love the clarity, thoughtfullness and eloquence of VDH.
Regards from The Netherlands.
As always VDH hits the nail straight on! Now if only those who are in true leadership woul implement and take heed to his words!
Love You, John & Thank You!!
Thanks for the support!
Great interview. Thank you from America.
VDH is also a visiting Professor at Hillsdale College and did a streaming live video on Wed 9/8...check it out.
Professor Hanson seems to believe that the current American regime didn’t mean to weaken and defeat us.
he just has misplaced hope,discounting the takeover of the election apparatus by left,& if I'm mistaken,then he seems under impression that wtfe is happening w/voter registrations & Dominion/Smartmatic malfeasance is somehow reversible by the same people charged w/polling location security,the people that failed to tear the covers off the windows & kick the doors to the ballot tally sites the
f🧲💪k down, using said portals as doormats over those low life SOBs.NOT GONNA HAPPEN!WE ARE DONE!
🇺🇲HAS BEEN SOLD DOWN THE RIVER & UP THE ROAD!
I am so grateful that the intellectual figures I look to today, like John and Victor, share these thought provoking conversations about the complex issues of our times. These are the types of conversations I seldom get to engage in, or hear in my daily life. Not that it is unavailable to me if I 'reached out' but, after having taken up a self directed technological and philosophical education and beyond, served in the military during the cold war, "and won", I immersed myself back into my working class family and community, which I absolutely love. I am concerned by what I see as de-existentialism...
My father, who worked in a specialized field in chip manufacturing, railed against sending our technology to China, for all the reason's Victor cites, plus...
The Chinese (Han) government is fascist, in my informed opinion. I am fine because I can "go toe to toe' with their 'elites', and many of 'me and mine', but what about my neighbor's children who have shrinking pathways to the middle class through good willed industriousness and perseverance? ...
Thank God for both John Anderson and VDH!!
Terrific insight and profound implications. Would like to pre-order Dr. Hanson's book. Is there a preferred way that Dr Hanson would prefer? Cheerio
This has been an excellent interview. Thank you!
Two old men talking about these worrying times!!!!
I'm an old man... Best time ever!!!!
Thank you John Anderson