In Germany, a quite expensive city like Stuttgart 2000€ would be enough for a single to live comfortable, 2500€ with a bit more luxury / more trips. As a couple, even 3000€ can be enough since the living cost and most bills are shared.
Hola Claudia! y muchas gracias por vuestros vídeos... Yo también soy "youtuber" y he vivido en Zurich y en Interlaken por tiempo... Me encantan vuestros vídeos!!!!!!!! Seguid adelante!!! Tschüss!!! 😊
The key question you haven't asked is "How much a family should earn to live comfortably, save for a down payment, and buy their own 3-bedroom apartment?". Because it's ok to rent or live with parents when you're a student like the majority of people in this video. However, things become "interesting" when you take responsibility for your own family and decide to settle down.
It's crazy the high lifestyle people here have! I'm Spanish, and living in Zürich in a studio with my gf at only 20min with bus from the center and I pay 600chf/month (1.2k total). Then for food in lidl/aldi I spend around 350chf/month. For health insurance 300chf/month. unlimited mobile data and calls 10/month, gym 60/month, public transportation 65/month and for other activities or buying things around 500chf extra at month. So I can live comfortably in Zürich pretty centric with around 1.800/1.900chf expenses monthly. So even with the "worst salary" here I can save 2.000chf every month, I think that's pretty good 😊
I would not consider the things mentioned in the video a "high lifestyle". Swiss people are known for caring about their quality of life, and especially also the quality of products they use. While it is indeed possible to live with the costs you mentioned, I would not consider that a high quality of life - which in my opinion is different from a "high lifestyle". E.g. most Swiss people are very considerate where they buy their food from, especially making sure that it is Swiss, often organic, and local. Buying foods at Lidl/Aldi is common outside of Switzerland but those stores are not as successful here for the aforementioned reasons. I actually appreciate it a lot that Swiss people care for those things and am happy about that - I prefer that much more than the attitude people outside of Switzerland have. At the end of the day, it is your choice what to spend your money on and where to save, but I think it is a bit rude towards the local culture to say that they live a "high lifestyle" because they care about e.g. good quality food products and do not go grocery shopping at a discounter grocery store.
@@NickTheCasualGuy That's not true. Again, the majority of Swiss don't earn that income per year. It's only a minority with specific professions that make so much.
You guys are so informative. You fill in gaps left opened by many RUclips "travel advisors" who don't talk about the "living (European) experience" of being in Switzerland. i.e., Getting into the heads of the locals and fishing out juicy details! And also, have I ever mentioned that the two of you are a beautiful couple, with delightful warm personalities? An idea for a future video; May I suggest talking about what to do if tourist get sick while in Switzerland who don't have medical insurance?
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Wow I am Swiss and 31 years, I am an engineer with 4 years work experience and thought with my salary of 125K CHF per year I am underpaid. I changed job now and earn 160K CHF + 25K bonus which I think is more appropriate
Interesting, may I ask what's your job title? And also which company you work for? Personally I am 38, electric engineer with masters degree and 4 years work experience. Currently work for the Swedish government as IT-platform manager. Living/working in Stockholm. Salary after taxes is 40.5K CHF. Among the highest earners with exact same degree and work background have 50K CHF, but most likely you work in the private sector and you have probably 20+ years of experience. Stating this information just for reference. Skål
For 4 years of experience, a total compensation of chf.-185K is definitely on the high end. I would not use the word « appropriate », it is quite a large amount and no all engineers got that after 4 years 😅
Thank you Claudia and Jan for making this video, very much appreciated! In order to contribute to the discussion, I'll share my experience living and working in Switzerland. I finished my master's degree last September and started working as an analytical chemist at a lab located at the edge of the Kanton, bordering with Aargau. Total gross compensation is 82600 Chf (split into 13 salaries) and including monthly food money. I think I'm incredibly lucky to have low fixed costs of 1320 Chf/month (rent in a flat share + health insurance). I ride my bicycle to work and split my food shopping between Migros and Aldi. Those are my costs living a 15 min train ride away from Zürich Hbf. I woud probably need an extra 1000 Chf/month if I lived in the city center.
Gutes Video! Ich arbeite selbst in Zürich, aber lebe in St. Gallen und muss sagen, dass es Sinn macht sich eher in der Region um Zürich herum umzusehen, wenn man gerne an Miete oder Lebenskosten sparen möchte. Wenn man zum Beispiel ein Auto hat, ist es durchaus sinnvoll lieber etwas länger zu fahren und dafür sich ein Haus leisten zu können. 😊
Hallo! Vielen Dank für deinen Kommentar. Ich hoffe, dass es dir gut geht und ich kann deine Meinung auf jeden Fall verstehen! Lieben Gruß Claudia and Jan
Zurich and Switzerland in general is very expensive. A single person can probably live comfortably on 7,000 CHF per month before tax, if you are not eating out except at weekends. Assuming you are paying max 2,000 CHF per month rent. Health insurance, Gym, transport via public system another 1’000 CHF per month. Food is very expensive. If your employer does not subsidise you can add another 40 CHF per day. So let’s say 1200 CHF per month. Given other expenses you just might get to save 1250 CHF per month. To be honest if you want to raise a family and save to own your own home, you need somewhere between 150k and 200k total income per annum, to be comfortable. If neither of you are Swiss, then it’s the upper end of the range. For single people it’s great. But for families it’s hard without a very good high paying job, especially if the mother is to stay at home with the children.
Thanks a lot for sharing your opinion in a detailed way. It is always good to get insights from different people and perspectives 🎉 Have a good weekend!
That was an excellent question. These kinds of videos that you're asking around people are so useful and enjoyable to watch. Keep it up 💪 Please make a video about typical house and apartment in Switzerland and how's look like inside it. THANK YOU🌺
You have no idea how expensive zurich and switzerland in general is. average rent for a Familie 2000-- healt insurance for 2 adults and 2 kids 850-- tax monthly 850-- . Tv and internet phone for 350-- means you spend only for that almost 4000- not included food cloths dentist education and so on . Fact is today that many families are in trobles paying their bills and retired people are leaving the country because they can not afford living in their hometown anymore.
You are so clever and nicely approaching your point. Real Swiss 😍. I’ve been to Zurich. It’s amazing but crazily expensive. with no sensitivity, Geneva is more livable. But overall Switzerland is one of the most historically and socially dear countries that I ever visited, I assume I visited lots of places around the world.
Family with 2 kids 8000 chf if the kids don't go to the Kita. Otherwise you'd need at least 10-12k if you want to cover all expenses and also save something.
@@David_99778 childcare. It costs around 3200 chf a month if the kid is less than 18 mo and goes full time, then it goes down to 2600 chf a month until the kid is 4-4.5 yo (depending on when they are born). And then it lowers down to 800-1000 chf a month as you'll only have to cover for lunch and afternoon as the mornings there is mandatory kindergarten/school. This is per kid so if you have two kids under 4 you might end up paying 5000 chf a month just in childcare.
Interesting views. What matters is purchasing power and ability to save/accumulate wealth. From that angle Switzerland is probably not the best place. But it's very nice thought in terms of quality of life.
Ive been living in Switzerland for 3 years. My job allows me to live comfortably in Switzerland, travel very often, I don't watch my expenses (no strict budgeting), and still save 2-3k eur per month which I invest. Switzerland still has the highest net savings when I compare my experience to my peers in London, Luxembourg, Germany, Netherlands.
Whats your problem , thats completely realistic to save 2-3 k a month in swizerland. Swiss is not germany where the most only earn around 2k after taxes. When you only have a salary of 4k in zurich , this is considered a low income
@@mellyklint6199 what do you want to hear? Why do you complain so much in this comment section? Maybe you have money problems and thats why you dont want to see other swiss people living a wealthy life !
maybe, but she said data scientist - which usually covers the skillset of a business analyst, a data engineer, and a statistician. It's kind of like a software architect role in the IT career path, they're almost end-game material. If you have such a role & get similar pay to other less demanding roles, start whoring yourself out in the job market lol.
Amazing job guys! I love you and your work. Really well done! I hope your channel grows a lot. Best channel for Switzerland related content! I wish you the best!!
Hello, thanks for your comment. We can try to feature more families in upcoming videos. Is there a specific question you would like us to ask? We are very happy you like our work and wish you a wonderful weekend!
@claudiaandjan yes...the question is...How much you need as a family of 4 2 kinds 2 adults to get by in Switzerland on a monthly basis... Rent,food,child care,clothing,a car,insurance...the hole thing,on a monthly basis...how much is child allowance in Switzerland,as a curiosity to.compare with UK,where is the lowest in Europe...comparable to estern European countries...thing like that...a school place is easy to.find for your kinds,a place at kindergarten easy to find? Is it covered by any government programs or you pay yourself the hole amount for child care/kindergarten??? Thank you...
Definitly german :) You should aim to understand swiss german, but not to speak it. There are too many nuances between different regions making it incredibly tricky to full learn. Also: you can use German in Germany and Austria ;)
Now go to lile dietikon or schwammendingen and ask the people there. Of course the people from times square or wall strett have different financial situations tham those from queens or the bronx... very important distinction
What is the average monthly salary of a recently graduated dentist in both public and private (after public) sector in Zurich? And are there also many opportunities for self-taught full-stack developers in terms of startup culture?
Hey there, thanks for the comment! We can make a video around that topic maybe. What do you think could be a good question to ask in this regard? Best wishes 💯✨
@@claudiaandjan Perhaps a general question about Zürich's pay competitiveness compared to the US' cities, especially the SF bay area, in both tech and healthcare sectors. Also does Zürich have as vibrant startup culture like the Baltics. You may find more interviewable people near the ETH Zürich's campuses or some tech-oriented events.
Muy buen video 🙌. Creo que estaria muy interesante ver cuánto ganan las personas en Ginebra y tambien cuanto ganan las personas que trabajan en los sectores mas fuertes de suiza (IT, Sector financiero, Farmacéutico y de seguros)
@@claudiaandjanGracias a vosotros por la consideración y por hacer estos vídeos que resultan muy útiles, especialmente a los que tenemos planeado emigrar a suiza
Could you please explain us why you need so much? It sounds like like both parents should be doctors or engineers or something with really good salary otherwise you can have a good family life in zurich..
2 kids at kita in Zurich is around 5k. Rent 3-4k, health insurance 1k, car & transport 500, food 2k, clothes especially for kids 200-300, unexpected expenses 500, travel & going out & electricity & tax …. Vary monthly. Zurich life with kids is very expensive especially when you’re alone with no grandparents to help with the kids.
Thanks for the video. Why not asking locals? I am a medical tech engineer with a master degree and 5 years experiences from Sweden. I am thinking about moving to Switzerland for a while and this subject is really important for me.
Great video guys, keep it up. 👌@5:50 7K for a single person is an exaggeration imho, I know many couples who live comfortable with this much of income...
Jan has issues with his expression, when the black tshirt guy said he is from switzerland, Jan replied - very interesting. It meant that he didnt believe him! Not a good thing!
Saludos desde españa, me encantan estos vídeos sobre salarios porque me permiten comparar lo que se gana en suiza con lo que se gana aquí. Sigan aportando buena información👍
@@claudiaandjan that’s amazing! Did you meet during a trip or just on coincidence? Maybe you can make a video on how to meet new people internationally. You guys strongly inspire me to also find an international partner! Do you have a tip on how and where to meet/approach spanish women? :D All the best & keep up the great content! Greetings from Austria
I love your salary videos, please continue making them. I would say in Zürich you need min 4000chf after taxes to live and 5000chf aftertaxes to live with good comfort.
Hello thanks for the question. We will take note of your comment and maybe create a video around that topic in the future. I wish you a wonderful week!
Honestly, that comment of the guy disturbed me a bit. I (a woman) have been living in Switzerland for seven years and have never heard of anything like that. Most companies are very transparent about starting salaries and they are based on education and experience, and you do not get less just because of your gender. The "gender pay gap" has nothing to do with same position different salary but the statistics of women earning less than men on average (but that again results from women statistically working more part time jobs etc.). I honestly have never heard of a situation like the guy described where you will start the same job, same position (same academical standard) with less salary just because you are a woman.
@@Joma0601well for all other countries pay gap is a real thing... Maybe he just compared that standard to his original country.. id say swiss would have smallest gap if any
Less then Chf5500 and living alone you will have struggles, because a 2,5 apartment is at least chf1500 to 2000 then all the bills, another chf1500/2000 but all depends pn your life stile to.
@@lucabruognolo6247 $7000 a month on my salary alone is comfortable. We live comfortably but we have so many what ifs to think about compared to our friends in Europe, especially what would we do without health insurance if we ever lose our jobs.
Hey there, thanks a lot for your comment! Also regards back to you to India 😀 We hope you have a great Sunday! We are focusing now on interviews, but in the future we may do some more blogs again, if people are enjoying that time of content and wish that we create this type of content 😃 Have a great Sunday!
This is the average salary before tax for an assistant in many of the cantons. If you are a couple without kids, this is quite good. If you are single, it's less good. If you have kids, maybe you need more.
@@Krishnmayi_108 Michael Page Switzerland published a report on average salary in Switzerland according to sector but they didn't feature doctors. But they featured a section on Healthcare and Life Science. You can Google and download this from their website.
Hi, very interresting contents ! As a French, it give me a more concrets details on the cost life/earning. Would you say that 6000 netto CHF / montly could be great ? Does the same at Bern? How much can i expect to save montly after tax with 6000 CHF ?
As someone who work in at IT for 13 years, I have to be honest and say that Jan is really picking the wrong people to ask. it feels like most of them they lack the maturity and knowledge to know what the industry pays and is looking for, sadly.
I agree. Students and interns are generally okay with 2.5-3k to live comfortably but this does not represent the mass, or answer the main question for people looking to move to Zurich.
I'm a front end developer transitioning into full stack. I have 4 years experience, how much would you say is a fair salary for someone thinking about coming to Zurich?
Most of those people are completley delusional. I live here myself and if you dont have higher education and a lot of experience those salaries are not achievable. And the average salaries those people guessed are far away from the reality. I mean a law student earns 12‘000 chf on average? In a dream probably yeah😂
What are you talking about ? She spoke about here salary when she finished her studies. And do you live in a dream? Sure when you dont have higher education you cant expect a high salary. 10-12 k is completely realistic if you have a good job. Switzerland is not for low achievers
I am a Mechanical Engineering Bachelor (graduated this spring) and I didn‘t do very well for the bachelor. I was offered 86k. I think it is not delusional, if you maybe have a master and a better grade. Also salary will increase in the first few years so ballparking it with 100-120k is not completely unrealistic
Those of u contemplating a move to CH- just don’t … the financial benefits r not worth it. U will have to fight ur way tru the already rigged system n just bizarre social norms by the western standard! Just to give u a hint- xenophobia in the work field, ur kids education, landlords n neighbors etc… things that were I guess normal like in the 30‘s in the west r still given as standard here … u have people born there in the second generation n they still don’t have a Swiss passport- just so u get a sense of it lol truly bizarre indeed
Why should we offer the swiss passport to just anyone. If we did that too many ppl would come here. Tell me about the bizarre things in my country? Switzerland is probably one of the most capitalist and western countries.
kè@@claudiaandjan The interval of opinions goes from 2.5k to 7k,this is quite a difference,I think you shoud have asked people directly how much they make ,a lot of people don't have a problem answering this question.
We're a family with 2 kids (1 in the krippe, 1 in kindergarten) and I'd say you need at least 9k a month to cover the basic expenses. 11-12k if you want to put some money aside or if you have more than one kid in the krippe.
Hi guys. Thanks so much for watching! 🧡 What is a good salary for you in your own country? Let us know down below 😊
In Germany, a quite expensive city like Stuttgart 2000€ would be enough for a single to live comfortable, 2500€ with a bit more luxury / more trips. As a couple, even 3000€ can be enough since the living cost and most bills are shared.
A good salary in portugal is just like 1000 or a bit more.
@@lorep7412thanks so much for sharing!! Very interesting 😊
@@APKZ04thanks so much for sharing!!😊
Hola Claudia! y muchas gracias por vuestros vídeos... Yo también soy "youtuber" y he vivido en Zurich y en Interlaken por tiempo... Me encantan vuestros vídeos!!!!!!!! Seguid adelante!!! Tschüss!!! 😊
The key question you haven't asked is "How much a family should earn to live comfortably, save for a down payment, and buy their own 3-bedroom apartment?". Because it's ok to rent or live with parents when you're a student like the majority of people in this video. However, things become "interesting" when you take responsibility for your own family and decide to settle down.
It's crazy the high lifestyle people here have!
I'm Spanish, and living in Zürich in a studio with my gf at only 20min with bus from the center and I pay 600chf/month (1.2k total). Then for food in lidl/aldi I spend around 350chf/month. For health insurance 300chf/month. unlimited mobile data and calls 10/month, gym 60/month, public transportation 65/month and for other activities or buying things around 500chf extra at month.
So I can live comfortably in Zürich pretty centric with around 1.800/1.900chf expenses monthly.
So even with the "worst salary" here I can save 2.000chf every month, I think that's pretty good 😊
Wow so interesting to read this. Thanks so much for sharing!! 😊
I would not consider the things mentioned in the video a "high lifestyle". Swiss people are known for caring about their quality of life, and especially also the quality of products they use. While it is indeed possible to live with the costs you mentioned, I would not consider that a high quality of life - which in my opinion is different from a "high lifestyle". E.g. most Swiss people are very considerate where they buy their food from, especially making sure that it is Swiss, often organic, and local. Buying foods at Lidl/Aldi is common outside of Switzerland but those stores are not as successful here for the aforementioned reasons.
I actually appreciate it a lot that Swiss people care for those things and am happy about that - I prefer that much more than the attitude people outside of Switzerland have. At the end of the day, it is your choice what to spend your money on and where to save, but I think it is a bit rude towards the local culture to say that they live a "high lifestyle" because they care about e.g. good quality food products and do not go grocery shopping at a discounter grocery store.
@@NickTheCasualGuyChump change? LOL! How ridiculous. Majority of Swiss don't earn more than 85k annually.
@@NickTheCasualGuy That's not true. Again, the majority of Swiss don't earn that income per year. It's only a minority with specific professions that make so much.
@@Joma0601most people buy from Migros and Coop, which don’t really sell better products
You guys are so informative. You fill in gaps left opened by many RUclips "travel advisors" who don't talk about the "living (European) experience" of being in Switzerland. i.e., Getting into the heads of the locals and fishing out juicy details!
And also, have I ever mentioned that the two of you are a beautiful couple, with delightful warm personalities?
An idea for a future video; May I suggest talking about what to do if tourist get sick while in Switzerland who don't have medical insurance?
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@@claudiaandjan eHugs 🤗
Wow I am Swiss and 31 years, I am an engineer with 4 years work experience and thought with my salary of 125K CHF per year I am underpaid. I changed job now and earn 160K CHF + 25K bonus which I think is more appropriate
Interesting, may I ask what's your job title? And also which company you work for?
Personally I am 38, electric engineer with masters degree and 4 years work experience. Currently work for the Swedish government as IT-platform manager. Living/working in Stockholm. Salary after taxes is 40.5K CHF. Among the highest earners with exact same degree and work background have 50K CHF, but most likely you work in the private sector and you have probably 20+ years of experience. Stating this information just for reference. Skål
@@alexanderismael8068 hii
For 4 years of experience, a total compensation of chf.-185K is definitely on the high end. I would not use the word « appropriate », it is quite a large amount and no all engineers got that after 4 years 😅
I dont think the given amount is real for an engineer with 4 years experience.
yes, wow...
Thank you Claudia and Jan for making this video, very much appreciated! In order to contribute to the discussion, I'll share my experience living and working in Switzerland. I finished my master's degree last September and started working as an analytical chemist at a lab located at the edge of the Kanton, bordering with Aargau. Total gross compensation is 82600 Chf (split into 13 salaries) and including monthly food money. I think I'm incredibly lucky to have low fixed costs of 1320 Chf/month (rent in a flat share + health insurance). I ride my bicycle to work and split my food shopping between Migros and Aldi.
Those are my costs living a 15 min train ride away from Zürich Hbf. I woud probably need an extra 1000 Chf/month if I lived in the city center.
Gutes Video! Ich arbeite selbst in Zürich, aber lebe in St. Gallen und muss sagen, dass es Sinn macht sich eher in der Region um Zürich herum umzusehen, wenn man gerne an Miete oder Lebenskosten sparen möchte. Wenn man zum Beispiel ein Auto hat, ist es durchaus sinnvoll lieber etwas länger zu fahren und dafür sich ein Haus leisten zu können. 😊
Hallo! Vielen Dank für deinen Kommentar. Ich hoffe, dass es dir gut geht und ich kann deine Meinung auf jeden Fall verstehen! Lieben Gruß Claudia and Jan
Zurich and Switzerland in general is very expensive. A single person can probably live comfortably on 7,000 CHF per month before tax, if you are not eating out except at weekends. Assuming you are paying max 2,000 CHF per month rent. Health insurance, Gym, transport via public system another 1’000 CHF per month. Food is very expensive. If your employer does not subsidise you can add another 40 CHF per day. So let’s say 1200 CHF per month. Given other expenses you just might get to save 1250 CHF per month.
To be honest if you want to raise a family and save to own your own home, you need somewhere between 150k and 200k total income per annum, to be comfortable. If neither of you are Swiss, then it’s the upper end of the range.
For single people it’s great. But for families it’s hard without a very good high paying job, especially if the mother is to stay at home with the children.
Thanks a lot for sharing your opinion in a detailed way. It is always good to get insights from different people and perspectives 🎉 Have a good weekend!
Public transport at that salary? Damn it gotta be expansive then
That was an excellent question.
These kinds of videos that you're asking around people are so useful and enjoyable to watch. Keep it up 💪
Please make a video about typical house and apartment in Switzerland and how's look like inside it.
THANK YOU🌺
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You have no idea how expensive zurich and switzerland in general is. average rent for a Familie 2000-- healt insurance for 2 adults and 2 kids 850-- tax monthly 850-- . Tv and internet phone for 350-- means you spend only for that almost 4000- not included food cloths dentist education and so on .
Fact is today that many families are in trobles paying their bills and retired people are leaving the country because they can not afford living in their hometown anymore.
It's true but most people always like to give the false impression about reality in Switzerland. Majority of people here just earn average salaries.
No the most people in swiss earn a very good salary
@@BLaCkAddor Give me more fairytales about Switzerland. Reality shows Swiss people are being squeezed by so many expenses and high taxes.
850 for 4 people family, that is cheap. All my friends pay more than 1000 …
Very good and useful questions in all your videos.
Great video and valuable information.
Thanks so much!! ⭐️
3000chf is nothing. For comfortable living in Züri city is about 5500-6000chf after tax.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts 😊
@@claudiaandjan And thank you for the video. You could ask around about rent in Züri it could be interesting.
hi, i'm interrested about your answer what do you mean by confortable living? how much can you expect to save montly with 6000 chf after tax?
I think you forget to add per person!
You are so clever and nicely approaching your point. Real Swiss 😍. I’ve been to Zurich. It’s amazing but crazily expensive. with no sensitivity, Geneva is more livable. But overall Switzerland is one of the most historically and socially dear countries that I ever visited, I assume I visited lots of places around the world.
It depends. Family with 2 kids, 8000 minimal. 1 person alone 5500
Thanks a lot for your comment! Yes you are right it truly depends!
Family with 2 kids 8000 chf if the kids don't go to the Kita. Otherwise you'd need at least 10-12k if you want to cover all expenses and also save something.
@@SunnyMcPharrell What s Kita?
@@David_99778 childcare. It costs around 3200 chf a month if the kid is less than 18 mo and goes full time, then it goes down to 2600 chf a month until the kid is 4-4.5 yo (depending on when they are born). And then it lowers down to 800-1000 chf a month as you'll only have to cover for lunch and afternoon as the mornings there is mandatory kindergarten/school.
This is per kid so if you have two kids under 4 you might end up paying 5000 chf a month just in childcare.
Continue the videos i live in zurich about a year and this videos help's me a lot! Thankss
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Very nice people you caught there. Salt of the earth.
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Fascinating! Thank you!
Informative video as always! Keep up the good work ;)
Thanks so much!! We are super happy to always read your comments ⭐️
@@claudiaandjan Moving to Lugano this month, maybe you can pay a visit this summer for a walkaround of the Swiss Summer Resort :)
Both beautiful ❤
Thank you! 😊❤️
Great video!!!😊
Thanks so much!! Super happy you liked it 🧡
Interesting views. What matters is purchasing power and ability to save/accumulate wealth. From that angle Switzerland is probably not the best place. But it's very nice thought in terms of quality of life.
Ive been living in Switzerland for 3 years. My job allows me to live comfortably in Switzerland, travel very often, I don't watch my expenses (no strict budgeting), and still save 2-3k eur per month which I invest. Switzerland still has the highest net savings when I compare my experience to my peers in London, Luxembourg, Germany, Netherlands.
@@Sofia-ef1svAnyone on the internet can make up stories.
Whats your problem , thats completely realistic to save 2-3 k a month in swizerland.
Swiss is not germany where the most only earn around 2k after taxes. When you only have a salary of 4k in zurich , this is considered a low income
@@BLaCkAddor You don't speak for or represent all Swiss. Neither do you know about the personal money matters of all Swiss people.
@@mellyklint6199 what do you want to hear? Why do you complain so much in this comment section? Maybe you have money problems and thats why you dont want to see other swiss people living a wealthy life !
Jan's face when he heard 12 K, priceless! TF you mean 12K?! Who are you? the Pope?! :DDD them data analysts might be exaggerating a bit tho ;)
maybe, but she said data scientist - which usually covers the skillset of a business analyst, a data engineer, and a statistician. It's kind of like a software architect role in the IT career path, they're almost end-game material. If you have such a role & get similar pay to other less demanding roles, start whoring yourself out in the job market lol.
Great video! Would love a video on the districts explained. Which district has what kind of vibe? Especially for living etc
Thanks so much for your comment. This idea is in our to-do list!! ⭐️
Amazing job guys! I love you and your work. Really well done! I hope your channel grows a lot. Best channel for Switzerland related content! I wish you the best!!
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Thank you...do one with families with children...i live in UK and was thinking moveing to Switzerland in the near future...and have 2 kids...
Not worth it. Too expensive and there's no vibrant social life.
Hello, thanks for your comment. We can try to feature more families in upcoming videos. Is there a specific question you would like us to ask? We are very happy you like our work and wish you a wonderful weekend!
@claudiaandjan yes...the question is...How much you need as a family of 4 2 kinds 2 adults to get by in Switzerland on a monthly basis...
Rent,food,child care,clothing,a car,insurance...the hole thing,on a monthly basis...how much is child allowance in Switzerland,as a curiosity to.compare with UK,where is the lowest in Europe...comparable to estern European countries...thing like that...a school place is easy to.find for your kinds,a place at kindergarten easy to find?
Is it covered by any government programs or you pay yourself the hole amount for child care/kindergarten???
Thank you...
@testtestt-ny8pn thanks for replying...not interested anymore...got a good job in UK,so not interested in leaving this country...
Love ur content!! Keep it up guys 🙌🏻👍🏼
Thanks so much for your support!! 😊
I love your videos!!
Thanks so much, Cristóbal! We are super happy you like them 😊
Really nice video, love the edits!
Thanks so much!! 🥰
@@claudiaandjan Sure I am very thankful, that I found your channel.
- where are you from?
- I'm from Switzerland
- great, very interesting
...being in Switzerland
Great content ✌🏽
Thanks a lot
Nicee video,more interviews please :D!
Thanks so much for your support!! 😊
Excuse the slightly off-topic question: is it better to focus more on Swiss German or standard German when moving to Switzerland?
Definitly german :)
You should aim to understand swiss german, but not to speak it. There are too many nuances between different regions making it incredibly tricky to full learn.
Also: you can use German in Germany and Austria ;)
Now go to lile dietikon or schwammendingen and ask the people there. Of course the people from times square or wall strett have different financial situations tham those from queens or the bronx... very important distinction
What is the average monthly salary of a recently graduated dentist in both public and private (after public) sector in Zurich? And are there also many opportunities for self-taught full-stack developers in terms of startup culture?
Hey there, thanks for the comment! We can make a video around that topic maybe. What do you think could be a good question to ask in this regard? Best wishes 💯✨
@@claudiaandjan Perhaps a general question about Zürich's pay competitiveness compared to the US' cities, especially the SF bay area, in both tech and healthcare sectors. Also does Zürich have as vibrant startup culture like the Baltics. You may find more interviewable people near the ETH Zürich's campuses or some tech-oriented events.
Family with 1 kid, at least 12k after tax, 2 kids at least 15k after tax ... better 18k.
Thanks for sharing this interesting insights!
True, would say as a single 150k a year would be comfortable. Also it is possible.
Please make a video on masters in switzerland and partime jobs in switzerland and salaries for freshers in switzerland.
Hello, thanks a lot for your comment. We could ask students at ETH. What do you think would be an interesting question to ask?
You are an artist, my friend, thank you
Thank you! Cheers!
Top notch content
Thanks so much for your kind comment and support!! 🧡
Muy buen video 🙌. Creo que estaria muy interesante ver cuánto ganan las personas en Ginebra y tambien cuanto ganan las personas que trabajan en los sectores mas fuertes de suiza (IT, Sector financiero, Farmacéutico y de seguros)
Hola. Muchas gracias por tu mensaje y sugerencia. Tomamos nota!! 😊⭐️
@@claudiaandjanGracias a vosotros por la consideración y por hacer estos vídeos que resultan muy útiles, especialmente a los que tenemos planeado emigrar a suiza
I have 2 kids and we need around 15k per month to live comfortably!
Thanks so much for sharing ✨👍🙂
Could you please explain us why you need so much? It sounds like like both parents should be doctors or engineers or something with really good salary otherwise you can have a good family life in zurich..
I guess because the Kita in Zurich for a full day is around 3000 CHF monthly, so you need quite a lot with kids younger than 4 and 1/2 years!
Rent 4k, Day Care 2-4k, Health Insurance 1.5k, food 1k, insurance 500, activities incl holiday 2-3k, car 500, clothes, etc
2 kids at kita in Zurich is around 5k. Rent 3-4k, health insurance 1k, car & transport 500, food 2k, clothes especially for kids 200-300, unexpected expenses 500, travel & going out & electricity & tax …. Vary monthly. Zurich life with kids is very expensive especially when you’re alone with no grandparents to help with the kids.
Thanks for the video.
Why not asking locals?
I am a medical tech engineer with a master degree and 5 years experiences from Sweden. I am thinking about moving to Switzerland for a while and this subject is really important for me.
Great video guys, keep it up. 👌@5:50 7K for a single person is an exaggeration imho, I know many couples who live comfortable with this much of income...
Thanks so much for your comment and for sharing your thoughts 😊
you are right. 7k after tax is like TOP 30%. so thats definitely not average..
I get monthly 11.000CHF
Jan has issues with his expression, when the black tshirt guy said he is from switzerland, Jan replied - very interesting. It meant that he didnt believe him! Not a good thing!
Saludos desde españa, me encantan estos vídeos sobre salarios porque me permiten comparar lo que se gana en suiza con lo que se gana aquí.
Sigan aportando buena información👍
Hola Alexander. Muchisimas gracias!! Nos alegra saber que te estan gustando nuestros videos. Un abrazo!!
Thank you for the video
Could you also do a video similarly for living comfortably in Geneva?
love the content! I was wondering where u guys met?
Hi! Thanks a lot for your comment and support. We met in the US 😊
@@claudiaandjan that’s amazing! Did you meet during a trip or just on coincidence? Maybe you can make a video on how to meet new people internationally.
You guys strongly inspire me to also find an international partner! Do you have a tip on how and where to meet/approach spanish women? :D
All the best & keep up the great content!
Greetings from Austria
I love your salary videos, please continue making them. I would say in Zürich you need min 4000chf after taxes to live and 5000chf aftertaxes to live with good comfort.
Thanks so much for your kind and supportive comment!! And for sharing your thoughts 😊
Did you guys know that Alpine mediagroup misuse some of your footage for their own advertisements?
I am given two choices to relocate - Madrid (or any other Spanish city) vs Zurich (or anywhere in Switzerland). What would you choose and why?
thanks a lot, i really like your contents ,
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Thanks 🙏 shave a great day!
Sir,one video for nursing salary
Hello thanks a lot for your comment. We are taking into account! Have a great Sunday 😀
great video ,,in switserland doesnt exist poverty ,, all are rich
2:49 you pointed out pay gap , can you elaborate ? is there a difference between wages depending on employee's gender for the same position ?
Hello thanks for the question. We will take note of your comment and maybe create a video around that topic in the future. I wish you a wonderful week!
Honestly, that comment of the guy disturbed me a bit. I (a woman) have been living in Switzerland for seven years and have never heard of anything like that. Most companies are very transparent about starting salaries and they are based on education and experience, and you do not get less just because of your gender. The "gender pay gap" has nothing to do with same position different salary but the statistics of women earning less than men on average (but that again results from women statistically working more part time jobs etc.). I honestly have never heard of a situation like the guy described where you will start the same job, same position (same academical standard) with less salary just because you are a woman.
@@Joma0601well for all other countries pay gap is a real thing... Maybe he just compared that standard to his original country.. id say swiss would have smallest gap if any
@@milanekrkaneIt's genuinely not a real thing for all other countries. For some it is but not all, especially in Western Europe.
@@milanekrkaneI would recommend to dig deeper into statistics if you believe that it is "a real thing".
Less then Chf5500 and living alone you will have struggles, because a 2,5 apartment is at least chf1500 to 2000 then all the bills, another chf1500/2000 but all depends pn your life stile to.
Hola claudiaa!!! Necesito hablar contigo porfavoorrr necesito ir a trabajar a suiza y no se como…
7:52 How you know is Greek, Humour, funny, logical free spirit! Na se kala!
nice video! keep it up guys! ;) 👊
Thanks so much!! We appreciate a lot your support ⭐️
What about the taxes? Is income tax automatically deduced? And how high is it?
u both are very cute couple.much love form india
Nice video, you could also included your opinion at the end of the video as young couple
Thank you!! We take it into account 😊
To live comfortability in Zurich you need 7000 Fr after tax.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts 😊
I second this
It’s very comparable to USA. I earn about $7000 after tax and it’s still not enough but doable.
@@jiepper how is this possible? In Italy if you earn more than 2500 Euro as a nat income you live very well.
@@lucabruognolo6247 $7000 a month on my salary alone is comfortable. We live comfortably but we have so many what ifs to think about compared to our friends in Europe, especially what would we do without health insurance if we ever lose our jobs.
do you guys have any advice for room/studio renting in zurich for students? like which are the best platforms or website to look up for? pleasee
Flatfox and fb groups:)
Komfortable meansnfor me to have a own quiet place with Nature. This would cost Millions. So i would need 250k a year 😅
Nice Video! What is your opinion on how much you need? :)
ups, i feel so bad.. i need to cut my costs 🙈
How much do houses cost there? (I mean, no rent, actually the purchase)
That is a good question we can make a video about that in the future 🎉😃
To purchase a one-bedroom apartment in Geneva city, you need at least 1.5 million.
Brutto and netto has nothing to do with befor or after taxes... its different to germany
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Thank you very much!! Kind regards from Zurich ⭐️
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Thanks for your comment!
$1 million a year a sweet spot but for good like $200- 300k is decent
Cut that crap. Majority of Swiss earn way below that.
Hey guys this is nice video but I'll ask for more travel and explore videos. Love from India. ❤
Hey there, thanks a lot for your comment! Also regards back to you to India 😀 We hope you have a great Sunday! We are focusing now on interviews, but in the future we may do some more blogs again, if people are enjoying that time of content and wish that we create this type of content 😃 Have a great Sunday!
Are they taking about Per week salary?
You can live well on 1800 CHF/month in Thailand lol
Theres no pay gap, thats was nonsense.
7-8000 after tax Swiss Franc a month is very comfortable to live a good life?
May I ask is this yearly? Or monthly? Pls reply😭
İts monthly😃
Is 77000CHF per annum enough to live a comfortable life in Switzerland?
This is the average salary before tax for an assistant in many of the cantons. If you are a couple without kids, this is quite good. If you are single, it's less good. If you have kids, maybe you need more.
@@elainev670 how much a resident doctor earn?
@@Krishnmayi_108 Michael Page Switzerland published a report on average salary in Switzerland according to sector but they didn't feature doctors. But they featured a section on Healthcare and Life Science. You can Google and download this from their website.
Is it euro they are talking about or Swiss frank
Hello it is in Swiss francs 👋👍
Dolar no Switzerland 2023😊
What is the best way to find a job in Zurich?
Are there also normal people in Switzerland? Not lawyer, engineers and "data analysts"? :D
Hi, very interresting contents ! As a French, it give me a more concrets details on the cost life/earning. Would you say that 6000 netto CHF / montly could be great ? Does the same at Bern? How much can i expect to save montly after tax with 6000 CHF ?
It depends on canton. I would say maybe 2000 fr if you live a reasonable life style.
Dislike cause Claudia didnt said "Hola a todos" like every time :D (jk)
Hahaha thanks for the comment. You gave me a laugh ☀️🙏😄 We thought to say something different this time haha 🌞💯
Hahah great comment!
Can you tell me the salary if acca salary n switzerland
Hello I am not understanding your comment very well. Could you elaborate? Have a wonderful weekend!
@@claudiaandjanAssociation of Chartered Certified Accountants
@@claudiaandjanhow much. Salary does acca fresher earn per month
@@Chinni1797around 75k would be an entry salary depending on the industry and company
Haha the German guy is surprised, he can survive in Germany earning 1000 € per month
7000chf as a single😄😀
So are you living comfortably in Switzerland. Thank you if you if you reply
1:20 girls are very beautiful
As someone who work in at IT for 13 years, I have to be honest and say that Jan is really picking the wrong people to ask.
it feels like most of them they lack the maturity and knowledge to know what the industry pays and is looking for, sadly.
I agree. Students and interns are generally okay with 2.5-3k to live comfortably but this does not represent the mass, or answer the main question for people looking to move to Zurich.
I'm a front end developer transitioning into full stack. I have 4 years experience, how much would you say is a fair salary for someone thinking about coming to Zurich?
People who speak about a gender pay gap need a course in statistics. Especially regression analysis! Please!
瑞士整個環境真是好好住
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Most of those people are completley delusional. I live here myself and if you dont have higher education and a lot of experience those salaries are not achievable. And the average salaries those people guessed are far away from the reality. I mean a law student earns 12‘000 chf on average? In a dream probably yeah😂
What are you talking about ? She spoke about here salary when she finished her studies.
And do you live in a dream? Sure when you dont have higher education you cant expect a high salary. 10-12 k is completely realistic if you have a good job. Switzerland is not for low achievers
I am a Mechanical Engineering Bachelor (graduated this spring) and I didn‘t do very well for the bachelor. I was offered 86k. I think it is not delusional, if you maybe have a master and a better grade. Also salary will increase in the first few years so ballparking it with 100-120k is not completely unrealistic
@@mikoborn4352120k is when you are 45 with 10-15 years if experience
Those of u contemplating a move to CH- just don’t … the financial benefits r not worth it. U will have to fight ur way tru the already rigged system n just bizarre social norms by the western standard! Just to give u a hint- xenophobia in the work field, ur kids education, landlords n neighbors etc… things that were I guess normal like in the 30‘s in the west r still given as standard here … u have people born there in the second generation n they still don’t have a Swiss passport- just so u get a sense of it lol truly bizarre indeed
I’d move there in a heartbeat if I could.
Why should we offer the swiss passport to just anyone. If we did that too many ppl would come here. Tell me about the bizarre things in my country? Switzerland is probably one of the most capitalist and western countries.
You want a passport so you can make the country as bad as the one you originally came from?
Wait there are pay gaps between genders 😮
The boyfriend looks like he is being held hostage in front of the camera.😂
True 5:31
Thanks a lot for your comment :-) 🙌
*People have very different opinions and the average salary of a doctor is 25000 CHF before tax.*
Hello, thanks for your comment. Could you elaborate bit more on your statement? Have a great week!
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The interval of opinions goes from 2.5k to 7k,this is quite a difference,I think you shoud have asked people directly how much they make ,a lot of people don't have a problem answering this question.
Can anyone tell me the salary as a nurse?
ask for a family and two kids please 👍
Thanks a lot for your comment, we are taking note
We're a family with 2 kids (1 in the krippe, 1 in kindergarten) and I'd say you need at least 9k a month to cover the basic expenses. 11-12k if you want to put some money aside or if you have more than one kid in the krippe.