F1 live Information & F1 Challenge do have a significant number of differences. First off the live information cam is missing from F1 Challenge, in its place is a rear view mirror, both of which actually slow the game down a fair bit that its actually very noticeable when you switch it on and off during play, it can't be far off running at half the speed when switched on. also there is no commentary in F1 Challenge, just music! Just a quick word on GT 24, it is fully 3D controller compatible for anyone who was wondering!
This channel would make the top 10 underrated channels. Another stellar vid, haven't played most of these, definitely piqued my interest with a couple of the titles.
Hi from France ! Great video who bring me lot of memories about this Saturn that I love so much ... Keep up the good work ! PS : I especially play at Impact Racing (who was a good and honest game), Scorcher too (I love this one with its unique visuals). And on raçing I play a lot at Sega Rally / Daytona USA remix / WipeOut and WipeOut 2097 ! Love the Saturn.
Great stuff as always James. Surprised this didn't have the Sega Guys Race label on it though as it was driving related! No Choro Q Park though for quirkiness? Fail! (I jest of course)
I always fancied Cyber Speedway, which I think was on that Mean Machines Sega VHS preview (still called Gran Chaser), but yeah, that soundtrack sounded out of place even then. I think they saw that Wipeout was going with club/dance music and they decided to corner the grunge market. Great timing.
F-1 Challenge (never understood the hyphen) had such an awesome soundtrack, it definitely deserves a call out! I feel like it's a rare version where the Japanese missed out! Live Information always feels a bit soulless to me... Always been a Sega guy, but I felt like the Saturn let me down when it came to racers. Luckily the Dreamcast put that rignt. Great vid as always Guys!
Great vid. Watching it solidified my sentiment that Japanese gaming culture was so much more mature - as in, refined - during the mid-late 90s compared to the West. Games were so much broader in scope and appeal in Japan. It was like a menu at a fancy restautant with a variety of dishes, great and small, to cater to every whim and fancy. Comparatively, we were still on the Kids Meal selections and the vegetables of gaming were Ewwww to us.
@@petermalek935 Cheers Peter, and you’re spot on … it’s almost ironic that in the west we had gaming magazines bemoaning the “bare bones” arcade experience, while in Japan they were leaning heavily into their culture and creating racing games around it, most of which had several layers to them. Funnily enough, I only found out about Impact Racing after your Best of Saturn piece on it for the SHIRO! site. The Roadblasters influence is brilliant but the game does a lot of clever things outwith the racing experience (power ups, special missions, unlockable weapons, track radar/map). Glad you enjoyed it mate. - James
Sadly the Saturn had no chance against the PS1 back then... When i was hanging out in the game shop instead of ya know doing "stuff" the Saturn was not popular. Most Kids where standing around the PS1 playing Ridge Racer or Bio Hazard yeah it was like that but i got to the Saturn later and i still play games and think the Console was underrated. Thank you Sir!
Great video, James! I've honestly never played ANY of these games, and I'm tempted to try some of them out of pure curiosity. The main thing that stands out to me is that shocking draw distance of Gale Racer. What. Were. They. Thinking? Surely they could have made other sacrifices to get some of that draw distance back; it looks "literally unplayable". And as you say, such a shame because there seem to be loads of other quirky, original features otherwise.
Underrated by whom? Can't reviewers rate it any way they like? I would rate them like this. Impact Racing 7/10, Cyber Speedway 6/10, Gale Racer 6/10 (there is a fully functional Rad Mobile cabinet in Amsterdam to play), Initial D (didn't play Saturn version), High Velocity Mountain Racing 7/10, Scorcher 4/10, F1 Challenge 7/10, GT 24 (didn't play), Drift King 97 8/10, Highway 2000 7/10.
@@CasperEgas the term “underrated” doesn’t mean “score”, Casper. It’s an adjective, its definition is “better or more important than most people believe”.
@@CasperEgasAre you ok, Casper? You’re a regular, positive commenter on the channel (29 comments), but you seem irked by this video. It’s a bit of fun mate, no-one is saying they’re the best racing games ever. High Velocity aka Togue is enjoying a renaissance in the SHIRO community challenge right now, with many players discovering the depth of the drifting mechanics and finding out that there’s a really good game beneath the surface. I think that meets the definition of an underrated game.
@@SEGAGuys I don't mean to critisise your video. I liked watching it. But I am a bit irked by the term underrated, which is used so often nowadays. I would say these are you less well known Saturn racers. But there is a reason why they are. Underrated makes it look like reviewers or consumers totally got it wrong and these were just classics that they missed. You could argue Drift King or Initial D did start franchises that became sort of underground hits. But these first ones aren't the best. You did give all these games a fair shake in the video, I am just not convinced they are underrated in any way.
Sega was censorship-happy in the 90s (the baffling changes to Streets of Rage 3), and even worse, SOA didn't even want to support the Saturn anymore, leaving many of the best Saturn games unlocalized. The American version of Highway 2000 never had a chance
Hey Craig, it’s only for Premium members just now, but it was released via a Community post only visible to you guys. If we lock the video to Members Only, we’re unable to share it with the SHIRO! insiders on their Discord. This way, for Saturn content, we can give our Premium members early access and keep the video as “unlisted” to share with SHIRO! insiders. Cheers!
I love Sega Rally, I played Touring car, I didn’t like Daytona. Taste is different for everyone I guess. Nevertheless no one can arguably say that Sega rally isn’t fun, nobody!
Great video mate, going to add a few of these to my fenrir - Shutokou battle is one I never heard of but it looks great 👍 GT24 is one I wish came over here as I really love it and think it looks great
I was really interested on Rad Mobile but this version was trash. We play each stage in short sessions and sometimes the amount of time we spend playing the game is the same we wait for the next stage to load
It's nice and all, but unfortunately Sega Rally and Daytona USA (OG version, not the lame circuit ed.) are too good for the competition. I tried all of these games and none are as much fun as those two titles.
Sega Saturn is just a slow computer just like every retro console. The games make the systems just like the games that get emulated . Tired of hearing underrated when reality is on fire
Ok stick to Nintendo, Microsoft or Sony but Saturn is a underrated console with many great games and could have been great but sega made horrible decisions at the time not fully focusing on the system but 3 systems at the time, saurn, sega cd and 32x when the correct decision should have been to focus on one system. So if you are sick hearing about Saturn and retro consoles why are you watching this video? So let me remind you THIS IS A GREAT CONSOLE.
I wouldn’t say those games were underrated, especially in comparison to what was going on in playstation land. Some truly awful looking games, even back then. Third parties were for the most part rubbish on Saturn when it came to racing games and 3d games in general As for Sega; I don’t understand how they couldn’t capitalise on their best games, it’s absolutely criminal we didn’t get a Saturn sequel to Sega Rally. Even if it was just more tracks and more cars with perhaps a career mode. We’d have lapped it up back in the day. Still it wouldn’t be Sega if they didn’t find a way to miss an open goal.
I am a simple man. I see an 86, I click like.
F1 live Information & F1 Challenge do have a significant number of differences. First off the live information cam is missing from F1 Challenge, in its place is a rear view mirror, both of which actually slow the game down a fair bit that its actually very noticeable when you switch it on and off during play, it can't be far off running at half the speed when switched on. also there is no commentary in F1 Challenge, just music!
Just a quick word on GT 24, it is fully 3D controller compatible for anyone who was wondering!
I'm glad you mentioned Impact Racing. It's a great, very underrated game.
And F1 Challenge is a great SEGA arcade-style racer.
"And Sega Touring Car's.... music" Heh, that made me chuckle.
This channel would make the top 10 underrated channels. Another stellar vid, haven't played most of these, definitely piqued my interest with a couple of the titles.
Great video and best Sega Racing Music track at the end of it!
Hope you make a video about neo geo ports on the Sega Saturn one day 🙏
Cheers mate! I think that’s one for Dan to handle, he’s a big fan of King of Fighters.
Hi from France ! Great video who bring me lot of memories about this Saturn that I love so much ... Keep up the good work ! PS : I especially play at Impact Racing (who was a good and honest game), Scorcher too (I love this one with its unique visuals). And on raçing I play a lot at Sega Rally / Daytona USA remix / WipeOut and WipeOut 2097 ! Love the Saturn.
I love High Velocity, underrated to me, especially if you use the Saturn wheel.
Love my Saturn!!!!
@@JRod-zr8qk I love your Saturn too. 😘
@@RetroGamesBoy78 😆
Great stuff as always James. Surprised this didn't have the Sega Guys Race label on it though as it was driving related!
No Choro Q Park though for quirkiness? Fail! (I jest of course)
aw, wot a treat to the ears a Saturn video narrated by a local lad.
I always fancied Cyber Speedway, which I think was on that Mean Machines Sega VHS preview (still called Gran Chaser), but yeah, that soundtrack sounded out of place even then. I think they saw that Wipeout was going with club/dance music and they decided to corner the grunge market. Great timing.
F-1 Challenge (never understood the hyphen) had such an awesome soundtrack, it definitely deserves a call out! I feel like it's a rare version where the Japanese missed out! Live Information always feels a bit soulless to me... Always been a Sega guy, but I felt like the Saturn let me down when it came to racers. Luckily the Dreamcast put that rignt. Great vid as always Guys!
Great vid.
Watching it solidified my sentiment that Japanese gaming culture was so much more mature - as in, refined - during the mid-late 90s compared to the West. Games were so much broader in scope and appeal in Japan. It was like a menu at a fancy restautant with a variety of dishes, great and small, to cater to every whim and fancy. Comparatively, we were still on the Kids Meal selections and the vegetables of gaming were Ewwww to us.
@@petermalek935 Cheers Peter, and you’re spot on … it’s almost ironic that in the west we had gaming magazines bemoaning the “bare bones” arcade experience, while in Japan they were leaning heavily into their culture and creating racing games around it, most of which had several layers to them.
Funnily enough, I only found out about Impact Racing after your Best of Saturn piece on it for the SHIRO! site. The Roadblasters influence is brilliant but the game does a lot of clever things outwith the racing experience (power ups, special missions, unlockable weapons, track radar/map).
Glad you enjoyed it mate. - James
Sadly the Saturn had no chance against the PS1 back then...
When i was hanging out in the game shop instead of ya know doing "stuff" the Saturn was not popular.
Most Kids where standing around the PS1 playing Ridge Racer or Bio Hazard yeah it was like that but i got to the Saturn later and i still play games and think the Console was underrated. Thank you Sir!
Great video, James! I've honestly never played ANY of these games, and I'm tempted to try some of them out of pure curiosity.
The main thing that stands out to me is that shocking draw distance of Gale Racer. What. Were. They. Thinking? Surely they could have made other sacrifices to get some of that draw distance back; it looks "literally unplayable". And as you say, such a shame because there seem to be loads of other quirky, original features otherwise.
Superb video. Great analysis.
Even before you said super monkey ball in scorcher...i was thinking super monkey ball 😂
Underrated by whom? Can't reviewers rate it any way they like?
I would rate them like this. Impact Racing 7/10, Cyber Speedway 6/10, Gale Racer 6/10 (there is a fully functional Rad Mobile cabinet in Amsterdam to play), Initial D (didn't play Saturn version), High Velocity Mountain Racing 7/10, Scorcher 4/10, F1 Challenge 7/10, GT 24 (didn't play), Drift King 97 8/10, Highway 2000 7/10.
@@CasperEgas the term “underrated” doesn’t mean “score”, Casper.
It’s an adjective, its definition is “better or more important than most people believe”.
@@SEGAGuys are they though? None of them are really special...
@@CasperEgasAre you ok, Casper? You’re a regular, positive commenter on the channel (29 comments), but you seem irked by this video. It’s a bit of fun mate, no-one is saying they’re the best racing games ever.
High Velocity aka Togue is enjoying a renaissance in the SHIRO community challenge right now, with many players discovering the depth of the drifting mechanics and finding out that there’s a really good game beneath the surface.
I think that meets the definition of an underrated game.
@@SEGAGuys I don't mean to critisise your video. I liked watching it. But I am a bit irked by the term underrated, which is used so often nowadays. I would say these are you less well known Saturn racers. But there is a reason why they are. Underrated makes it look like reviewers or consumers totally got it wrong and these were just classics that they missed. You could argue Drift King or Initial D did start franchises that became sort of underground hits. But these first ones aren't the best. You did give all these games a fair shake in the video, I am just not convinced they are underrated in any way.
Thanks Sean Connery for that sweet list of sega Saturn games
You’re mosht welcome 😂
@@SEGAGuys hahaha nice😂
9:52 Initial D PS1 also doesn't have eurobeat but the driving is fun without eurobeat imo
Sega was censorship-happy in the 90s (the baffling changes to Streets of Rage 3), and even worse, SOA didn't even want to support the Saturn anymore, leaving many of the best Saturn games unlocalized. The American version of Highway 2000 never had a chance
How come this doesn't show up on the channel? Great video though as always guys
Hey Craig, it’s only for Premium members just now, but it was released via a Community post only visible to you guys.
If we lock the video to Members Only, we’re unable to share it with the SHIRO! insiders on their Discord.
This way, for Saturn content, we can give our Premium members early access and keep the video as “unlisted” to share with SHIRO! insiders.
Cheers!
@SEGAGuys Ahh, got you. Loving the playthrough vids. A Sonic R or Manx TT playthrough would be awesome
I love Sega Rally, I played Touring car, I didn’t like Daytona. Taste is different for everyone I guess. Nevertheless no one can arguably say that Sega rally isn’t fun, nobody!
@@sega-re-trop-vieux Won’t get any argument from me on Sega Rally!
Great video mate, going to add a few of these to my fenrir - Shutokou battle is one I never heard of but it looks great 👍
GT24 is one I wish came over here as I really love it and think it looks great
I was really interested on Rad Mobile but this version was trash. We play each stage in short sessions and sometimes the amount of time we spend playing the game is the same we wait for the next stage to load
Nice,
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It's nice and all, but unfortunately Sega Rally and Daytona USA (OG version, not the lame circuit ed.) are too good for the competition. I tried all of these games and none are as much fun as those two titles.
Sega Saturn is just a slow computer just like every retro console. The games make the systems just like the games that get emulated . Tired of hearing underrated when reality is on fire
Ok stick to Nintendo, Microsoft or Sony but Saturn is a underrated console with many great games and could have been great but sega made horrible decisions at the time not fully focusing on the system but 3 systems at the time, saurn, sega cd and 32x when the correct decision should have been to focus on one system. So if you are sick hearing about Saturn and retro consoles why are you watching this video? So let me remind you THIS IS A GREAT CONSOLE.
I wouldn’t say those games were underrated, especially in comparison to what was going on in playstation land. Some truly awful looking games, even back then. Third parties were for the most part rubbish on Saturn when it came to racing games and 3d games in general
As for Sega;
I don’t understand how they couldn’t capitalise on their best games, it’s absolutely criminal we didn’t get a Saturn sequel to Sega Rally. Even if it was just more tracks and more cars with perhaps a career mode. We’d have lapped it up back in the day. Still it wouldn’t be Sega if they didn’t find a way to miss an open goal.