Why the Pandaren need representation in Battle for Azeroth
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
- Ji and Aysa are the two leaders of their factions but sometimes it doessn't feel like it! Hopefully in BFA we see some development for our two Pandaren Hehe!
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Actually Ji meditating is character development for him. Instead of bulling ahead, he's slowing down a bit. He's becoming more thoughtful before taking action. He learned something in Pandaria, I don't ever remember seeing him meditate before. Aysa being the chatty one, instead of being deep in meditation is also some development in that she's actively responding.
I never really thought of it that way. I'm just glad Aysa got some dialogue and I hope we see these two get some more soon! Thanks for watching!!
Daraugh he's healing after the Siege of Orgrimmar. Also he might be having cubs with Aysa.
!!! that would be pretty cool welcome to the channel!!
The Pandaren from actual Pandaria are mostly neutral sure, but my Pandaren from the Wandering Isle made a choice to leave the turtle and throw myself in with the Horde. We've journeyed with the Horde through Mists, Warlords, and Legion, and cultivated relationships with the other races in there, so I don't see how it makes Pandaren any less of a Horde race than say, Blood Elves or Goblins.
I hope we get some more Pandaren love in BfA, it's the perfect time to reintroduce some Huojin/Tushui story.
edit: see Lukias
I hope we do get some Pandaren lore in BFA it'd be great to see how they react to the faction lore. Pandaren are very much races in their respective factions now and i'm glad about that. Pandaren Master race!
Someone argued with me on the forums that pandaren lore dictates that even the playable pandaren can only be peace loving and want to unite the factions in peace. He also argued that the playable pandaren could not have been changed or influenced by being part of the horde/alliance for so many years now and been through so many conflicts. And that the island pandaren in general could not have drifted culturally at all from the lack of the pandaren's most important social limiting factor: The Sha.
This is incredibly flat and boring characterization and i hope that blizzard doesn't agree with him and allows the playable pandaren to grow and develop personality.
I think they will get development soon also love your user name! My mains a Pandaren Warrior :)
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goosearev to be fair, goblins are much less loyal. Very turbulent society with social norms that go against the ideas of loyalty.
Props on the bad ass brewmaster monk mog dude, looks killer. Edit: subbed!
I'm glad you like it and thank you so much! I love my Pandaren Warrior and Monk :)
Happy I found your channel! Those of us who love Pandaren really appreciate y'all!
Pandaren are my fav race!!! I am glad blizz did something with them in the later half of BFA. SL is tough to fit them thematically but i hope we get more lore for them soon! ty for watching!!
I go on the opposite direction: Pandas SHOULD NOT be able to kill other faction's pandas in pvp (except battlegrounds, i guess). Ji and Aysa somehow reunites and decide fighting each other is wrong because of the same heritage they share so they make some kind of "alliance over the alliances" and decide that pandas do not harm other pandas on the battlefield.
During this year they have made connections and friendships among the horde and the alliance respectively so they still join them when there is a fight against another common enemy.
Pandaren is my favorite race too. In fact, I started playing WoW because of the pandarens. I like your channel, I wish you much success and growth. Panda hugs 🐼
:D Pandaren Master race thank you for the support and I wish you well! Pandaren are my favorite race in wow there so badass!
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I think it'll be necessary for them to flesh out Ji Firepaw, if for no other reason than that Horde leaders are dying off left and right, and (unlike Alliance leaders) aren't getting replaced. He's a good character to pick to rise to the challenge, to be sure.
MoP is my favorite expansion pack so far. I love the Pandaren race too. I wish Blizz would do more with them. Enjoyed your video.
Thank you for watching!!! Mop was one of my favorites to :). Pandaren are so underused in the story line it's actually upsetting. Perhaps we will get story someday
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Blizzard removed the Varian/Garrosh scene when you complete the pandaren starting questline. It sucks cause I really loved that part of the questchain.
Brings a tear to my eye everytime :( was one of my favorite quests
NimoGaming They haven’t. I leveled a new monk a few weeks ago and I got the whole “kill alliance pandaren, they’re your enemies” schtick from Garrosh. Then he phased out and Sylvanas was there instead
@@kaizouttv Yes, Garrosh is still there, but Varian is not, for some reason. The alliance panda introduction is just them standing in front of Anduin and that's it...
Ji's storyline was to get stabbed and have Aysa run in to save him. The End.
I REALLY wanna see some Ji vs Aysa action, it would honestly be so dramatic.
I to this day do not see how Pandaren are in the Horde, especially right now. It never has made any sense to me and yes I played and read Horde and Alliance story lines.
I have to take it with a grain of salt. I kinda look at my PC Pandaren as one like Chen stormstout who is a wanderer. The Houjin don't make sense especially after SoO. They can work and hopefully blizzard adds some much needed development. Also love your youtube icon!
Agreed, also thank you! Like yours as well, good to find other Pandaren :)
I love Pandaria and the Pandaren race. They're truly one of the main races that get fleshed out since Cata. From board games to farming, to everything else in their culture. You don't see this detail until WoD for Draenei, than the whole Broken Isles for Legion and ofc, Kul Tiras & Zandalar. I love fleshed out races and its one of the reasons why old racial & starting zones should be updated to add in more detail. Definitely would love to see Silvermoon City get updated and have more cultural things added to their environment. The environment detail done just for Pandaren alone is one example of what makes them great.
Then there's the teachings, the development, the 'lessons' you go through. I'm always wanting to roleplay my characters in any Pandaria zone because every time I go back there, there's always something new you learn or find that just makes Pandaria even more magical. There's something for everyone in Pandaria be it an adventurer, vacationer, scholar, aspiring chef, it's just pure amazing and a shame they're overlooked by Blizzard because of a part of the WoW player base decided to go 'ew oh no furries! what shall we do?!?!?!' >.
I do agree actuely. I don't really like the Pandaren and don't play one, I am a massive sucker for story/lore and I do find it a shame that after Pandaria as a whole. You don't hear/see much of the faction leader Pandaren. Would also made a great story now with BFA where the Pandaren are more forced then ever to either be Alliance or Horde and how some of them deal with that, or might leave
I started playing WoW at the end of Cata when I heard that Pandarens (and Monks) would be a thing. I main a MW Monk and I have since the beginning. Pandaren have been around for a VERY long time in lore, longer even than a few races, and though they lived in isolation for such a long time, the adventurers from Shin Zen Su HAVE chosen a side, we HAVE chosen a faction, we ARE part of the world. For the Alliance!
Little late to your party but never the less I can see your point but I have always loved the ability the Pandarens got which is to choose their faction as it spices up the gameplay and story progression facing your people in battle that you were once allied with is just as realistic as it gets. Its like Sylvanas, Alleria and Vereesa facing not just one another but their own people with new found titles like Blood Elves, Void Elves, High Borne which are all the same race just took different paths which in turn changed them, Pandarens I look at in the same way with the faction choice their allowed and with 8.2 you can choose to be a servent of the void now giving them essentially a third choice. Also Mogu have had presence in Zandalar as when you quest in Zuldazar Mogu are at pretty much every Troll structure in the jungle and I believe I've seen Hozen as well but no Jinu well at least until 8.2 basically when we get a jacked version of them with longer fins LOL. But your right Pandarens are a forgotten race which is kind of sad as the storylines laid of in MoP about them and their people were really good but I have also seen a lot more Pandaren venders in BfA at least its a start LOL.
Well at least the Mogu have more of a presence on Horde now for the last point. Hopefully the Heritage armour will get Ji taking a nice role during the questline.
Hey, Man...I feel ya! I've been an extreme Pandaren fan since their Easter egg appearance in the Warcraft III RTS and especially the appearance of Chen Stormstout. I’ve also had these thoughts you expressed in the video. I know WoW players in real life that scoff at me for playing Pandaren but I tell them that I stand by it. I’ve said to others many of the things you expressed in this video. Even if they don’t give them these things in BFA, from one Pandaren to another, it’s good to meet ya! I’ve subscribed. Going forward I'll still be playing Pandaren exclusively, on both sides.
Thanks for watching! I've had the same thing happen to me IRL and with my friends about me playing a Pandaren. I love their lore and animations so much there badass! I convinced my GF to main one when she started playing wow XD
Box and Jacquilope Sound’s like a victory to me!! I’m playing my Pandaren as I write this comment! 😉 Forever And always a fan of them.
If you played a rogue in legion you got some stuff with Taoshi
, wich was cool. But I have to agree. Pandaren is one of my favorite races, and sadly havent been seen much. in WOD you had like one or two pandarens that were part of a quest in Shadowmoon Valley. None in the other zones as far as I can remember. Legion had a few like you said, like eks with rogues, or a few WQ and what not on Broken Shore.
But with the other races of Pandaria, I have to disagree, Mogu's playes a small part in Zuldazar, and there is quite a bit of Hozen in Zuldazar aswell. Not many of those fish people tho. There are also Mantid invasions when you do those island thingy.
But yea. overall agree. Pandaren's need to be used more ingame, just because there are quite a bit of people who does not like em, does not mean they dont have a fanbase. Hell, if you count Alliance and Horde, pandaren is not the least played race. There are more Pandaren characters than Goblin, gnome, dwarf and almost worgen. atleast thats what the website am looking at says.
Here is a link ( www.statista.com/statistics/276315/distribution-of-world-of-warcraft-characters-by-race/ ) Have a nice day y'all.
Didnt know that about Taoshi! I really hope that they use these guys more....some of the npc appearances in BFA are a start but not quite enough yet. I want a full fledged Houjin and Tuishi Storyline
I always wanted race campaigns, kinda like in W3. They sorta did something like that for classes in Legion, so this dynamic of Alliance Pandaren vs Horde Pandaren would be a great story to explore in such campaign. It could even lead to some Sha again, those were fun new lore addition that should be revisited.
This would be badass! I do believe they are doing a faction campaign in battle but in the future I would love this. Thank you so much for watching!
Ion Hazzikostas talk about that in the last Blizzcon, it appears to be a reality in BfA
I pretty much agree with the points you bring up. I also wondered why Ji wasn't in the Horde cutscene if all of their leaders were going to have a feast. I tried playing a Pandaren but couldn't really get into it, but I've always really enjoyed the lore, appearance, and music of Pandaria. Ancient Chinese and Japanese culture has always been a huge thing for me and seeing it get representation in WoW was really neat. I've never really understood why the Pandaren get so much hate when there's things in the game that are 100x weirder.
Good video my dude, I don't have a panda but I always liked how they looked and I love all of the mists zones. They need some love, but I think as the "Tranquil" race, it makes sense they aren't voicing their opinions regarding the BFA. But I agree that it seems weird they were not big at all in Legion. For the race that is all about trying to calm the evil you think they would try to find the light within a legion commander and try to change their ways, instead of just causing a mass genocide like we did.
Thanks for watching and I always appreciate the thoughts on the Pandaren situation. I can def see what your saying I do hope we get a leader some point weather it's Chen or Taran Zhu (Please be Chen) XD
WOW 7.5k views thank you guys and Pandaren supporters :) so far in BFA I have noticed many Pandaren Npcs as well as Pandaria races! Very happy with the xpac so far. Lets hope for a Ji and Aysa storyline still!
It would be awesome if finally there would be more with Ji and Aysa. What I really wish for Bfa would be that Chen,Rokhan and Rexxar would meet with Jaina again, like back then in Warcraft 3. I mean Rokhan amd Rexxar are in BfA again, Jaina plays a big roll, the only one who we need now is Chen.
Back to Aysa and Ji, I wish there would be more quests with them or that they play a bigger roll. I don't know if you already saw her, but I saw also Aysa meditaing on the alliance ship in Kul Tiras Boralus. Maybe she will play a bigger roll? Ji in the other side,I didn't play Horde, but my sister did and she said she couldn't find Ji. I wonder what he is doing now.
Also I'm glad that I found a RUclipsr who loves the Pandaren like me ^^
I still think Pandaren and Monks are the best and Pandaria is the most beautiful Island
I SHIP AYSA AND JI OTP!!!
Pandaren master race! Welcome to the channel!!
I started playing all the way back in Vanilla and really picked up with BC as the Draenei who I love. Yet, I never found the race that felt more comfortable for me to slip into their skin until I rolled a Pandaren. It's who I am in that world.
As someone new to WoW I really love the pandaren. I was having a lot of trouble finding a race and class I really enjoyed playing and so far my Pandaren Monk is easily my favorite. Not only because I just really love the Monk class but also the Pandaren story is just so awesome. Their opening questline is so much better than other races I've tried in my opinion. A second favorite would be the Worgen opening but overall I like Pandaren a lot. They deserve a lot more love than they've gotten.
I'm a pandaren shaman main on the alliance... In my opinion in addition to not having having them in important lore events it's also pretty annoying that they have a steriotype within the faction that every pandaren is a monk there is almost no pandaren npc who isn't a monk and I'm pretty sure the same can be said about the horde
You’d think the Pandaren will become an alliance only faction by now...
As for the lore it makes sense but it also speaks volume to the bond the Horde has. I play mainly Huojin Pandaren and I always like the "Get stuff done ask questions later" attitude they have. The story does make it seem like Alliance would be better at times though I still prefer the Horde.
I hope that in the future the pandaren will regain importance in the history of wow
Great video man! I really like the Pandaren but don't usually play them. Maybe I'll level my Pandaren Arms Warrior now!
Y0U SHOULD!!! My mains a Pandaren Fury Warrior i've been playing him since MOP their animations are amazing!! Thank you so much for the kind words
The animations were what made me realize that pandaren weren't just a funny concept for a race. When I rolled MY warrior, it was a toss up between pandaren and orc. While I did eventually choose orc, I still wonder what it would be like if I rolled a panda. Either way, it would be weird running around as a panda named "Orcosaurus"
we did get a pandaren lore session in zandalar mogu race it was pretty awesome
I was happy to see the Mogu again in BFA. Throne of Thunder was one of my favorite patches in MoP! I actually hope we get a development with them soon in the future maybe during the Huojin heritage armor quest?
I was just thinking about this topic when i accidentally stumbled upon this video haha
Pandaren Master Race!!!
I would kill for more pandaren representation. It's nice to see some lightheartedness or serenity in the normal savage and chaotic Horde.
Spoilers.
With 8.2.5, we go in search of Wrathion. In some journal pages, we read of his research being done with Lorewalker Cho and techniques learned from the Shado Pan seeing as the Sha originated from Y'shaarj. I hope we see the return of some staple MoP characters with Wrathion.
Nice video, would love to see more pandaren representation !
I main two Pandaren characters and I would not change them for any other. A shame that they had no contribution to story in bfa so far
I like Pandaren, I love Pandaria and I also started to play in this addon. I miss them very much in bfa story. Every race is in there but not the Pandaren. That makes me sad and I'm asking myself: why? 😟🐼🐾
I hope that blizzard decides to involve them at some point in the story soon. They have such a beautiful storyline (I love the Houjin the most). They've been getting SOME inclusion recently but I want firepaw and aysa to have a storyline soon. Thanks for watching!
When MoP was announced, i didn't think much of it, i was like "ok, so now they're so low that they're introducing pandas".
And when i got back to Wow ( i had to stop at Cataclysm, and i got back at the end of Legion, just before BfA ), i was so surprised to see that it was basically my favourite expansion. I love the ambiance, the story, the characters, and i regret so much that i have missed this when it was active.
And i find it so sad that Pandaria story is never adressed again, it's like "nope, just an episode, nothing of importance"
I don't know, put a fucking pandaren in the SI:7 for example ...
Man, this guy knows where it is at. I agree with everything 100%. At the very least, I'd like Aysa to DO something! She's a great character in her own right. Look at Gelbin Mekkatorque. Is he the most prominent Alliance leader? Not by a long shot, but he still has depth to him. He has a mission, a nemesis, and a badass mech. Half of that legwork is already done for both Ji and Aysa.
I think having a pandaren warfront in which Ji is the last boss for the alliance and aysa for the horde idk
Pandaren is my favorite
I feel like Blizzard is having a difficult time with the direction of pandaren. There's a conflict of interest between the players: Some want them to remain a peaceful race, others
want them to join in the faction war.
It also seems uncharacteristic of Ji and Aysa to wage war on one another. They are still good friends and even seen training cubs together in the monk class hall. They would need a really good reason to turn against each other since they clearly value their friendship more than their loyalty to their faction.
It's just a big mess for Blizzard. Should have just been a true neutral race lol.
Very curious to see where they go with them. They do value their friendship more then their loyalty but i'd love to see that broken somehow. Maybe have Ji go on a mission with a horde leader or something. Thanks for watching!!
that hasnt stopped them before. Jainas character has gone in a wildly different direction than anyone could have guessed and many people dont like it. Just give me -something-. I want Pandaren to matter again.
At the very least maybe we'll get a Chen quest :)
The Pandaren need to pick a damn side! I love the Pandaren, and I definitely see them as one of the master races of Azeroth... But with all this shit going on, they're REALLY going to stand idly by and not pick a damn side?
Enough with neutral and split-faction Pandaren. PICK A DAMN SIDE!
I see that you are also a man of great taste.
Cheers!
I always wanted to be a panda character but I get bored with the wandering island. I think the long dream of the panda druids need to come true. Also more classes for the Panda need to be unlocked. But I disagree about the models not being used. The mogu have a huge lore background in Zandalar.. Also we often see hozen around. I think there is a hozen pirate or 2 at one of the Horde bases.
eat bamboo, no war.
I like be a pandaren main race because they are amazing i am monk to! Nice video!
I dont know... the panda monk just dosnt look "right" on any transmog..
Ima make a long post but TLDR: Pandaren shouldn't be used until blizzard gets their shit together and remembers to treat races besides orcs and humans as more than half assed additions to say "hey guys we included you now feel good because we remember"
Example though, Here's an issue I see:because blizzard is unwilling to make the Horde anymore than barbarians under a heel, and the Pandaren have proven to history they will not be slaves to the wicked. Not ji who was beaten by ignorant ass orcs because of his race. In the end they would get fucked over like all the good aspects of so many races, for a character people like for her edge factor. Under representation isn't just a pandaren issue, and i love Pandaren to death. It's an issue for anyone who isn't Orcs and Humans. Trolls DESERVE Zandalar, because it's been there so many years. Kul'tiras too I guess, bit it's not nearly ask interesting it unique. It's blizzard repeating the same thing again.
I know people may disagree here, but for the same reason im glad Pandaren won't be represented, I'm glad night elves won't be. Blizzard can't treat characters that aren't humans, orcs, or fan favorites well. They don't know how to use wise characters anymore. Just look at Malfurion : a shell of the badass from Warcraft 3. Pandaria was one of the last times blizzard has REALLY tried to do something different and exciting in lore. I don't want them to take what they made and ruin it with their lack of care now.
Lemme clarify btw: I really love a pandaren. I'm an RPer, and I've always had this desire to find a good place where I can RP a wandering pandaren brewer, exploring the world of Azeroth. I've dreamed of a whole area in Thunder Bluff and Darnassus welcoming the Pandaren, perhaps showing the similarities between Tauren, Night Elves, and Pandaren: the August Celestials seeing a race of changes elves and honorable Yaungol descendants in Kalimdor to know that even without them, the world still had grown. It had recovered and people of the past who failed had learned. Malfurion having been in MoP would have absolutely made the greatest moment in lore, druidic philosophy and love of nature on Pandaria. Hell, ive always wanted Pandaren to be related to Ursoc and Ursol, the dualistic bear gods of Hyjal who represent power: strength tempered by wisdom and Noble heart. However: races that break the norm of Warcraft are just unfairly looked down on. This issue about representation isn't just about the awesome Pandaren: it's about the heart and soul of the lore of every race. BfA is already solidifying the sad end I foresaw in blizzards writing to the beauty of Kalimdor. All the beautiful symbolism there, and all the deep lore... ruined because of lazy writers unwilling to let this universe breathe.
I know this seemed like an elf rant on a pandaren video, but for the same reasons I see elves have being ruined by horrible writers trying to use them, I do not want Pandaren just used. Not until blizzard remembers the spirit and heart put into these mystical lands and amazing races. Sorry for the massive post lol. Long time RPer, and BfA is just kinds crushing my spirit as someone who has loved this game for so long. I hope I'm wrong, and Pandaren are used amazingly! Here's to Pandaria, an expansion with writing that deserves far more credit than anyone is willing to give it. But to me... Battle for Azeroth, for them, can only be used to show the true pain of Azeroth. The illusion of separation that brings only blood and war. They are like ancient Kalimdor (at least, how it physically was lol) whole and united. To see them, a race almost representative of the last fragment of a distant world, some of the purest things of a past world have their ideas twisted and turned to meaningless violence... My druid will have trouble staying neutral after a world tree is burned, but to see that would be a true shame to him.
Mogu allied race confirmed!
your pandaren Looks awsome :D
Why thank you!! the master race!!
Pandarens still.beeing in horde does not make sense
I happen to play as a Pandaren Warrior. I'm a FURRY speced warrior. See what I did there? Fur sure you did.
I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE! Are you the real Darth Panda? true sith lord of the galaxy
#Pandalivesmatter
99.9% of wow's playerbase does not like pandaren. The recent developments in the world not involving them is proof of blizzards understanding that nobody wants them around.
Ji Firepaw played a huge part in the last novel and they just had a spotlight in 8.3 lol
Pandaren are awesome, but they should have stayed neutral. The whole thing with some of them choosing Alliance or Horde is just a gameplay convenience to fit in with the current factions without too much disruption. It doesn't make sense from what we know about Pandaren, though. I just dismiss it as shitty storytelling to accommodate the realities of how World of Warcraft is set up as a game - there are many MANY such examples of Blizzard doing this over the years.
There's a reason Panda get left out of the current storylines. They were hacked in to be a playable race and now Blizzard doesn't know what to do with them. They should have stayed neutral.
I'm 50/50 on the neutral thing I think the way they did it works fine but they just need to be clear that they are members of their respective factions rather then Chen Stormstout. Hopefully they do use them at some point because Pandaren are awesome. Thanks for watching!!
Who fucking care about those weabus furries....
Wait, he wasn't invited? ...I hate to pull the race card, buuuut
and why would a race of peaceful honorable panda bears suddenly decide to kill one another for choosing a different faction? fail
You know what? It could be very interesting! The pain, confuse, to be in a world of conflict, to have to kill each other because of orders from a "pacifist" people could be great.
"Pandaren have been kind of swept to the side" Good fuck pandas
Tartarus_62 fuck pandas. Sargarus should have stabbed panda land instead
Ouch :(
But then we would have a major reason to go back to "Panda land" again tho, and people would in theory get forced back there instead of Silithus xD
I'd be cool with returning to Pandaria
Tartarus_62 they're better than ass boring humans.
because pandarean are pointless/useless.. worse addition to this game
Not invited to the horde dinner...... Hmmmm possibly cause no one likes pandas and wish they just wandered back to panda land.
Nah I'm pretty sure Ji was in the tavern where the real party was at
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