I watched the interview people are talking about, the creators state that Miguel was unfocused in S6, but they also say that Robby was unfocused a little bit more because of the “second place” thing and that Tory wasn’t there, and that the reason Miguel was getting more angry was just because he was losing. But people just ignore that part of the interview
@@southerncoastproductions7587 U being a martial artists is kinda irrelevant. S4 Kylers stone breaking feat already surpasses KK1 Johnnys AP and Robby massively upscaled S4 Kyler. Additionally it’s also been stated S1 Robby has surpassed Daniel KK3 in terms of skill and Daniel KK3 is > Mike KK3 who’s stated to be > KK1 Johnny and also school hasn’t started for me yet also kinda stupid of you to think I’m a failure.
He barely had any screentime and just got introduced.😂😂 you're one of the kwon glazers the video is referring to. we don't know how much training his opponents got compared to robby and Miguel.
@@kaveenasingsandcosplays3441 ikr?! everyone's saying that kwon is gonna rip everyone to shreds and that he's gonna be so scary... and he barely got any screen time. although from what we saw he has hella skill, but there's so much over-glazing! finally founded a like-minded person....the screen time is not enough to even judge if he's better than the other fighters or what part of his fighting is better. we will find out his skill and fighting, mentality etc. FOR REAL in Season 6, Part 2, in the Sekai Taikai.
A message to the glazers of each character: Hawk: I am one of them but you have to accept hes a side character and they wrapped up his arc in s4 unfortunately hes only gonna get nerfed more and more from here on out. Chances are hes not gonna catch up to or surpass robby and miguel ever again. Trust me if the show was realistic and hawk was the main character he would be the strongest teen. Robby: Lowkey usually pretty chill but just know hawk beat him in the all valley fair and square I wont go into the details but I mean robby literally admitted it in s5. Otherwise Im sorry miguel fans wont ever give you any credit. If the show was realistc hawk and robby beats miguel every time. Miguel glazers: chances are your weird and dont know how to comprehend miguel losing a fight. LIKE JUST ACCEPT THE L. Sam glazers: you can give me all the proof in the world sam is not that bad and I agree she is not BUT BROOO SHES ANNOYING. Tory: Lowkey dont think I've seen one of these. I honestly dont have too much to say but you have to admit tory is kinda psycho. I might add to this later.
@@palomao8949 I guess Tory is little psycho but it’s totally not like she’s on probation, works multiple jobs, has to provide for the house, struggling mom who died, her landlord is a weirdo, is always second fiddle to Sam, and is influenced by the one and only John kreese and etc
The only seasons I can understand finding Sam annoying are s2 and s4. Outside of that, ppl are just biased and dramatic as she's very nice and sweet and has good intentions and fixes her mistakes. Also, s6, she did absolutely nothing wrong, and when they run of hate arguments, they'll resort to calling mary ham over not liking a character. 💀 mary is very sweet and talented, she has type 1 diabetes and she's a black belt and it's not hard to separate the character and the actress.
tory used to be a psycho bitch, not and never was she badass. Miguel was right when he was in the wheelchair and met tory, SHE DOES NEED SOME HELP...or I will say that she DID...she desperately needed someone cuz of what she was going through yes it was shit but doesn't justify the psycho ass decisions she made throughout. tory s2 till end of s4 was a bitch.
You’re completely right but Miguel wasn’t focused at the end u could see he was getting mad messing up his mentality if that wouldn’t of happened then Miguel would of one but no but it’s nice to see Robby 1️⃣
i agree with you on the take that s6 robby is stronger then miguel. But hawk was stronger then robby in s4. They both had a moment they were about to score a point, like when the timer ran out. And robby is so far above johnny kk1, johnny got his ass handed to him by an injured daniel... Also i'm pretty sure kwon and the others trained their entire life
I can agree with everything besides when you said Miguel was weak in season 4. He wasn't motivated because of what Johnny said the night before when he was drunk. In my opinion Miguel season 4 was better than anyone, and in season 5 when he beat Robby, he didn't train after the tournament, and still beat him so it basically means Miguel is stronger than Robby in season 4. I don't know if you mixed up your word in szn 5 cuz you said Robby was better than Miguel , but if it wasn't a mistake, your wrong since Miguel beat Robby. In season 6 Robby beat Miguel fair and square, but Miguel was also a little bit tense because of the stanford thing. I can only say that if Robby and Miguel had gone against each other 10 times, the score would have been 5-5.
Little add on to my season 3 argument. He was struggling against Kyler prior to his resolve Amp. He struggled a little bit once he got it wanna know why? Cause he was on the verge of fucking death. He also took out Kyler in less hits than Robby did so that means his strength is better.
Robby fans when Miguel wins. "Yeah Miguel was the better fighter he got the better of him" Miguel fans when Robby wins "well actually Miguel still wins he wasn't focused🤓"
@@brandoasan5639 that was the minority, most Robby fans were claiming that Robby didn't wanted to fight and that he was holding back on Miguel due to feeling bad for the accident at the school fight, when in reality it was totally the opposite, they were both going all out and Miguel won.
Season 2 Miguel was getting a lil too strong so they nerfed him imo, if miguel never broke his back and missed out on all that time where he was in a bed and the others were training he would’ve been stronger than Robbie.
Miguel was Clearly unbalanced that’s not even glazing it’s just what it is , balance is the foundation of their karate , So was Robby . Miguel was unbalanced bc of the college shit and Robby bc Tory wasn’t there , as soon as Tory showed up Robby locked in but Miguel remained unbalanced doesn’t mean Robby didn’t win fair and square he did but there’s context to it . It’s literally just like Robby in season 4 he got unbalanced in the final and he lost doesn’t mean Hawk didn’t win fair and square but there’s context too ppl just ignore those nuances
1. In S4 miguel was obviously Overwhelming/Heavily pressing Hawk so he more than likely just didnt have a Chance To Go On offense+ELI And Miguel agreed to holding nothing back which means going all out/Off&Def+theres no way anyone can prove eli only uses miyagi-do when he gains back convidence+they literally do the same Offensive move at the same time like 1 or 2 times Like when they both did a jump kick and blocked it at the same time. Meaning Eli didnt only use M.D, Miguel just overwhelmed him like he did in S2, especially when he was gonna do the tornado kick, he was gonna get a point. and if Miguel can do that to Hawk, and Hawk is able to overwhelm robby from some instances, then Miguel can do just as good or Better. Plus u cannot say Robby got distracted By kenny= didnt score a point bc if Thats the case, dont u think Someone would have mentioned At Least Eventually in S5? But no, no one did, so if thats the case that means that moment either happened So Fast to where Nobody seen it to call it out(very unlikely) Or it was Just cinematic effect for the viewers which=that moment didnt exist/Robby never got distracted, and wouldnt have scored a point in the first place(more than likely the case) How tf was Robby better than Miguel in S5 when Miguel literally Won? S6 IMO they were Both Nerfed, not saying Miguel was Distracted, but he Was Clearly Desperate, which would make sense bc miguel is fighting extremely uncharacteristically, and lowkey fighting like his S1 self but with more Knowledge which would mean Miguel like in S4 when he was only focused on So many other things, and mentally nerfed in That season instead of fighting for his own spirit, he got shafted by himself which would= he was nerfed the whole fight while Robby was able to recover to peak/maybe above base bc he was in Focused/Locked in mode and theres no proof to say the same for Miguel(feel free to try to tho) The blood clot of Tory mom: Strangulation🤦🏽 We can agree on the rest👍🏽
Hawk S4 > Miguel S4 if he was focused and didnt get injured High -Extreme diff If Miguel didnt get injured he would probably scale to KD2 Chozen or KD3 Mike Barnes or even higher. We can assume KD2 Chozen is =< Kwon due to contextual clues. Yes I am a miguel glazer, I never liked robby as a character and i think the story started with miguel and should end with him. Robby should lose or drop out and mirror Johny except actually moving on from it and continuing life.
Bro woke up and chose to speak FAX! Except for one thing, in season 4 Hawk is better than Robby and both of them are better than Miguel And a fact that a lot of people need to accept is that mercy isn't a weakness, like Chozen said. Cobra Kai mentality is not necesarily the best. Miguel has the best mentality in season 5 when he sais he fights to be badass and find balance and also in season 3 when he found the strenght to recover, Robby has the best mentality in season 6 when he fights to be a champion and finds his purpuse and strenght in Tory, and Hawk had the best mentality in season 4 when he had that awesome boost of confidence, and also in season 5, when he shows how mature he is now. In rest all fax bro, you are one of the few Cobra Kai fans who logically use their brain
Kwon Feats : {speed skill} Put a Bored high so he can do a 360 kick {r.speed defense strength} Blocked Yoon Kicks and Punches with ease. Kwon was on Defense while Yoon was on Offence Also he elbowed his leg mid blow. {defense offence r.speed agility t.speed p.strength speed skill} Again he was on Defense but he on Offence on some of the Attacks the he knocked out both of them with a 2 leged kick sideways also Kwon blocked both of their hits at the same time and triped them and punched them in the face. {s.strength skills defence offence r.speed} First Kwon blocked Yoon punched then sent a blow to his neck to stop him from breathing and knee kicked him in the stomach and pull his head up and showed no merch and then almost killed Yoon but he knocked him out instead. {Overall} Under-Rated Goated with Skills, Defence, Offence, Dura/Endu/ Technique, S.strength and P.strength edit: it was 540 or 720 , he really scales higher than Robby and Miguel
We haven’t seen any of them fight of the characters from the valley so how do u know how he will fare against them. You can’t scale him based on the kids he fought because we can’t scale hem either
the kids he beat easily are featless to say hes not featless you would need a connection to the main teens youre saying that beating random kids with no feats or connections to any of the main teens proves that he beats anyone in the valley
While I agree Miguel was focused in the S6 fight I do not believe he was balanced, unlike Robbie when tory came in. I'd say they are both equal while balanced.
Dont think thats why he lost… miguel and Robby have always been on the same level and everytime they fight its really close. Not supprised robby would get a W.
@@christianromeo8198 no it wasn’t it was because robby wasn’t focused he was thinking about tory and not focusing on beating miguel, but when he stops thinking about her he starts coming back
@@christianromeo8198 no it’s true when both miguel and robby are unbalanced miguel has the upper hand that’s why he was about to 3-0 robby, he wasn’t beating robby from the start because of “college”
I see where your going at also tbh but Miguel was not focused in season 1 because of the break up with Sam in s1 and in s3 and s4 obviously Robby would be better
Kwon is scaled above the fighters in S6 PT1 and Hawk is better than Robby in S4 Robby said himself he won fair and square and S3 Hawk I would say is = to Robby or Maybe a little bit better
literally everything you said ive always been saying lol. s1 robby almost won with 1 arm he was stronger. s2 miguel. s3 and 4 obv robby. season 5 miguel was a complete fair fight. s6 robby another complete fair fight. ppl needa learn not to overestimate there favorite character
My top picks would be hardcore Cobra Kai mentality Robby, hardcore Cobra Kai mentality Tory, hardcore Cobra Kai mentality Miguel, hardcore Cobra Kai = Eagle Fang mentality Sam, hardcore Cobra Kai mentality Hawk, and hardcore Cobra Kai mentality Kenny under hardcore Cobra Kai mentality SenSei John Lawrence for the sekai taikai with Kyler, Brucks, and Shawn as backups just in case 1 of them got injured or killed!
Hawk in S4 is better than robby s4 Yes Robby get distracted. But Hawk was confirmed to be the best fighter and S4 and Robby injured Hawk's leg before Hawk beat him even Robby said himself Hawk won fair and Square
@@Sean749that’s quite literally exactly what it means. And if that wasn’t enough the writers themselves have said that hawk is stronger and nothing overrules the writers.
@@Sean749 That distraction is irrelevant. First of all there’s a behind the scene shot of it not lasting a second and with Robby saying he won fair and square it is heavily implied the distraction didn’t matter. Secondly, it wouldn’t have even been sudden death if it weren’t for the buzzer which is very likely Silvers doing. Thirdly, Daniel tells Hawk to use Miyagi do which is his inferior style against Robby in the first round. He literally lost a point to Robby because of Daniel being a dumbass. Had he used his superior style first round sudden death wouldn’t be a thing. Lastly, the final point Hawk scores is with an injured leg that Robby hammered which is an illegal move not considered cause of the paid ref. Miguel is better than Robby in s6 he IS unfocused confirmed by the writers. Miguel saying Robby is nerfed is his emotion which he very clearly gets over. Both of them being unbalanced Miguel 2-0d. Why should balanced Robby be better than balanced Miguel if he’s worse when both are nerfed and still gets pressed by nerf Miguel at peak? If anyone is losing brain cells, it’s you.
@@R-R66are you stupid? We haven’t seen him perform any feats that justify putting him above, the only reason we could have kwon on top is due to Kim Da Euns statement
Well Mr miyagi in the karate kid trilogy is definitely not in his prime considering he was like 50/60 and he was still able to dog walk kreese and silver so I think the only thing kid Johnny takes over current Johnny is speed flexibility and mabye kicks also Kim stated that yoon was the he best fighter and his family trained there for decades implies he might of started at a young age and kwon low diffed the best students including yoon
S6 Miguel vs every Robby version' S6 Miguel vs Robby S1: Miguel no-low diff S6 Miguel vs Robby S2: Miguel low-diff S6 Miguel vs Robby S3: Miguel low-mid S6 Miguel vs Robby S4: Miguel mid diff S6 Miguel vs Robby S5: Miguel mid-high diff S6 Miguel vs Robby S6: Robby mid diff
@@Sean749 striking strength: u clearly see the boards they break in south Korea are way thicker than the ones in miyagi do. dura ur right about, experience: kwon trained his whole life
Aight so imma debunk all ur points on Robby vs Miguel every season. You shoulder argument doesnt work. It literally was working for the first 2 round where both scored points on each other. This makes them relative and keep in mind Miguel wasn’t at his peak due to his mental nerf with Sam. He was enraged and barely cared about his victory after wards. Enraged is a mental nerf in the ck verse since it’s defined by “uncontrollable anger” so yeah mental nerf Miguel went relative to peak Robby later round are irrelevant since it ain’t a peak Miguel anyway and we know peak Robby and mental nerf Miguel are relative. If you don’t think he had a mental nerf ur wrong cause definitively he did. In season 3 writers confirmed he was better since he gets a resolve amp which fixes his body permanently (stated by Miguel himself his back was in better shape than ever) and gains back his season 2 skills. Season 2 skills from Miguel are already enough for season 3 Robby since he doesn’t train at all but in addition to gaining his season 2 skills he gains the drum technique which we know is a huge buff since in kk2 Daniel went from trading hits and being extremely relative to Chozen to being able to completely out class him with drum technique. So yeah Miguel s3 is Miguel s2 (already enough for s3 Robby) with a broken technique and writer statement to back him up. There’s no argument for Robby winning this season (no valid one at least). Season 4 your just completely wrong. I already debunked your Kenny distraction in another comment I suggest reading that so that should just put Hawk > Robby. Hawk beat Robby and was getting outclassed by Miguel and no he was not only fucking using Miyagi Do. The man literally states he isn’t gonna hold back so why would he use the far inferior style? He strikes first against Kyler and only uses Miyagi do in the first round against Robby due to Daniel’s statement. He literally throws a barrage of attacks which is NOT shown to be a Miyagi Do philosophy and he also throws the same kick as Miguel so for you to argue Hawk was only using Miyagi do you’d also have to be arguing Miguel also is only using Miyagi do which is NOT true because he strikes first 😭. So that debunks the idea of Eli only using Miyagi do. Miguel is also outclassing Eli in this fight which is later stated by Kenny and Johnny. So basically Miguel > Hawk > Robby in s4 really simply scaling you just can’t understand for some reason. Season 6 I wrote in the same comment if my debunk on you for Robby vs Hawk s4. Enjoy responding/conceding 😁😊
@@Sean749You keep saying stupid stuff that doesn’t make any sense just so you can glaze Robby. Miguel is way better than Robby and always will be. How about you rethink your entire argument and other arguments on Cobra Kai and you’ll see how you’re wrong
@@Sean749 You say that Miguel is so cringey when he’s not. Miguel has gone through so much so it makes sense for him to be upset. Miguel is way tougher than Robby. Robby takes everything personally and that what makes him a boring character. Miguel has more character arc. So Miguel is better than Robby in most seasons
@@coltongold so getting upset and not doing anything makes you tougher than taking things personally. Makes no sense. Also Miguel’s character arc ended in szn 5 while Robbie’s is still going so u can’t say which one is better since Robbie’s isn’t even done.
Kwon would treat that miguel like Robby treated Kenny in Season 4
Kwon's overrated. Robby will make what happened to Miguel look like nothing compared to what Robby will do to Kwon for Tory!
@@miguelpasamano4995you crazy kwon destroys its common sense
@@miguelpasamano4995We'll see.
@@ericthegreat1877he hasn’t have that much screen time and a lot of people already glazing that’s crazy
Same for Robby if that's the case bud
I watched the interview people are talking about, the creators state that Miguel was unfocused in S6, but they also say that Robby was unfocused a little bit more because of the “second place” thing and that Tory wasn’t there, and that the reason Miguel was getting more angry was just because he was losing. But people just ignore that part of the interview
there a link to the interview?
@@jasonmadun5480 Type in "Cobra Kai Season 6 Spoiler Interview: Burning Questions, Part 2 Teases & More!" Watch from 23 mins and 10 seconds onwards.
I agree with your statements on current fighters being strongest currently. But there’s no way you just said KK1 Johnny > S6 Robby 😭
hes right.
@@southerncoastproductions7587 Prove it (you can’t there’s literally no way to argue it)
@@gg41451 Oh i can absolutely prove it. you can't, ur not a martial artist. and ur failing school. don't talk.
@@southerncoastproductions7587 U being a martial artists is kinda irrelevant. S4 Kylers stone breaking feat already surpasses KK1 Johnnys AP and Robby massively upscaled S4 Kyler. Additionally it’s also been stated S1 Robby has surpassed Daniel KK3 in terms of skill and Daniel KK3 is > Mike KK3 who’s stated to be > KK1 Johnny and also school hasn’t started for me yet also kinda stupid of you to think I’m a failure.
@@southerncoastproductions7587L argument you say that cuz you have no proof 😂
Kwon would destroy Season 1 Miguel so badly that he would have injured him worse than when he fell off the railing in Season 2.
I never even mentioned that
@@Sean749 Ah I was referring to the thumbnail
The Kwon character is the best athlete that the show has had. He would literally smoke everyone!
He barely had any screentime and just got introduced.😂😂 you're one of the kwon glazers the video is referring to. we don't know how much training his opponents got compared to robby and Miguel.
@@kaveenasingsandcosplays3441 ikr?! everyone's saying that kwon is gonna rip everyone to shreds and that he's gonna be so scary... and he barely got any screen time. although from what we saw he has hella skill, but there's so much over-glazing! finally founded a like-minded person....the screen time is not enough to even judge if he's better than the other fighters or what part of his fighting is better. we will find out his skill and fighting, mentality etc. FOR REAL in Season 6, Part 2, in the Sekai Taikai.
A message to the glazers of each character:
Hawk: I am one of them but you have to accept hes a side character and they wrapped up his arc in s4 unfortunately hes only gonna get nerfed more and more from here on out. Chances are hes not gonna catch up to or surpass robby and miguel ever again. Trust me if the show was realistic and hawk was the main character he would be the strongest teen.
Robby: Lowkey usually pretty chill but just know hawk beat him in the all valley fair and square I wont go into the details but I mean robby literally admitted it in s5. Otherwise Im sorry miguel fans wont ever give you any credit. If the show was realistc hawk and robby beats miguel every time.
Miguel glazers: chances are your weird and dont know how to comprehend miguel losing a fight. LIKE JUST ACCEPT THE L.
Sam glazers: you can give me all the proof in the world sam is not that bad and I agree she is not BUT BROOO SHES ANNOYING.
Tory: Lowkey dont think I've seen one of these. I honestly dont have too much to say but you have to admit tory is kinda psycho.
I might add to this later.
@@palomao8949 I guess Tory is little psycho but it’s totally not like she’s on probation, works multiple jobs, has to provide for the house, struggling mom who died, her landlord is a weirdo, is always second fiddle to Sam, and is influenced by the one and only John kreese and etc
The only seasons I can understand finding Sam annoying are s2 and s4. Outside of that, ppl are just biased and dramatic as she's very nice and sweet and has good intentions and fixes her mistakes. Also, s6, she did absolutely nothing wrong, and when they run of hate arguments, they'll resort to calling mary ham over not liking a character. 💀 mary is very sweet and talented, she has type 1 diabetes and she's a black belt and it's not hard to separate the character and the actress.
tory used to be a psycho bitch, not and never was she badass. Miguel was right when he was in the wheelchair and met tory, SHE DOES NEED SOME HELP...or I will say that she DID...she desperately needed someone cuz of what she was going through yes it was shit but doesn't justify the psycho ass decisions she made throughout. tory s2 till end of s4 was a bitch.
@@kaveenasingsandcosplays3441 IKRRRR
@kaveenasingsandcosplays3441 I don't got nothing against the actor but I do disagree she was also pretty annoying in s5 and 1
They don’t mean we don’t need season 1 Miguel we need season 6 Miguel with season 1 no mercy Miguel mentality
bro people on tiktok are talking about that miguel needs his season 1 mentallity not skills to beat kwon
yes exactly
Season 5 mentality is way better
You’re completely right but Miguel wasn’t focused at the end u could see he was getting mad messing up his mentality if that wouldn’t of happened then Miguel would of one but no but it’s nice to see Robby 1️⃣
right
I agree
No bro 💀
@@robbykeene427your user says a lot 💀
@@erenchilling that he’s a jack brewer fan🫡
Its fair to say that s5 Miguel is the strongest teenage fighter and in s6 Miguel beats robie in a non tournament setting
i agree with you on the take that s6 robby is stronger then miguel. But hawk was stronger then robby in s4. They both had a moment they were about to score a point, like when the timer ran out. And robby is so far above johnny kk1, johnny got his ass handed to him by an injured daniel... Also i'm pretty sure kwon and the others trained their entire life
I can agree with everything besides when you said Miguel was weak in season 4. He wasn't motivated because of what Johnny said the night before when he was drunk. In my opinion Miguel season 4 was better than anyone, and in season 5 when he beat Robby, he didn't train after the tournament, and still beat him so it basically means Miguel is stronger than Robby in season 4. I don't know if you mixed up your word in szn 5 cuz you said Robby was better than Miguel , but if it wasn't a mistake, your wrong since Miguel beat Robby. In season 6 Robby beat Miguel fair and square, but Miguel was also a little bit tense because of the stanford thing. I can only say that if Robby and Miguel had gone against each other 10 times, the score would have been 5-5.
Ik I messed up when talkin abt szn 5
Season 1 to season 6 Miguel combined would be epic
Robby won because he had a better reason if they had equal reasons it would be the same as their fight in season 5
Did this mf say Robby in s4 is better than Hawk? he has to be a Robby fan and Saying Kwon has no feats is wild
Kwon was only in 1 fight so far. The rest of s6, he just spoke arrogantly and kicked boards.
Echoes of the past guide the hero 🛡️✨
Little add on to my season 3 argument. He was struggling against Kyler prior to his resolve Amp. He struggled a little bit once he got it wanna know why? Cause he was on the verge of fucking death. He also took out Kyler in less hits than Robby did so that means his strength is better.
Hawk was stronger then Robby in season 4
Cap
@@Truedivinedits ur slow
@@southerncoastproductions7587 how
@@Truedivinedits sybau
@@southerncoastproductions7587 what?
Robby fans when Miguel wins. "Yeah Miguel was the better fighter he got the better of him"
Miguel fans when Robby wins "well actually Miguel still wins he wasn't focused🤓"
Robby fans when Miguel beat him in S5: "Robby let Miguel win, he was feeling guilty for kicking Miguel off the balcony and let Miguel beat him 🤓"
@@CobraKing5398 never heard someone say that
@@KobyMathews Oh, I have seen too many Robby stans saying that to count
@@CobraKing5398I saw some people say it was a draw
@@brandoasan5639 that was the minority, most Robby fans were claiming that Robby didn't wanted to fight and that he was holding back on Miguel due to feeling bad for the accident at the school fight, when in reality it was totally the opposite, they were both going all out and Miguel won.
Season 2 Miguel was getting a lil too strong so they nerfed him imo, if miguel never broke his back and missed out on all that time where he was in a bed and the others were training he would’ve been stronger than Robbie.
finnaly someone who speaks fax
Miguel was Clearly unbalanced that’s not even glazing it’s just what it is , balance is the foundation of their karate , So was Robby . Miguel was unbalanced bc of the college shit and Robby bc Tory wasn’t there , as soon as Tory showed up Robby locked in but Miguel remained unbalanced doesn’t mean Robby didn’t win fair and square he did but there’s context to it . It’s literally just like Robby in season 4 he got unbalanced in the final and he lost doesn’t mean Hawk didn’t win fair and square but there’s context too ppl just ignore those nuances
Balance is part of your skill, balanced means better
We aren't over hyping him either smh this guy is chatting
U deadass have a kwon pfp. Ur a glazer
the pfp speaks for itself 💀
@@Sean749fr 😂
@@israel.tat3exactly
@@Sean749 you deadass glaze robby lmao
Another theory hawk fell of and got less screen time then demitri 🤦♀️act just a fact
Miguel season 1 would be season 1 robby in a fight NON tournament style
1. In S4 miguel was obviously Overwhelming/Heavily pressing Hawk so he more than likely just didnt have a Chance To Go On offense+ELI And Miguel agreed to holding nothing back which means going all out/Off&Def+theres no way anyone can prove eli only uses miyagi-do when he gains back convidence+they literally do the same Offensive move at the same time like 1 or 2 times
Like when they both did a jump kick and blocked it at the same time. Meaning Eli didnt only use M.D, Miguel just overwhelmed him like he did in S2, especially when he was gonna do the tornado kick, he was gonna get a point.
and if Miguel can do that to Hawk, and Hawk is able to overwhelm robby from some instances, then Miguel can do just as good or Better.
Plus u cannot say Robby got distracted By kenny= didnt score a point bc if Thats the case, dont u think Someone would have mentioned At Least Eventually in S5? But no, no one did, so if thats the case that means that moment either happened So Fast to where Nobody seen it to call it out(very unlikely) Or it was Just cinematic effect for the viewers which=that moment didnt exist/Robby never got distracted, and wouldnt have scored a point in the first place(more than likely the case)
How tf was Robby better than Miguel in S5 when Miguel literally Won?
S6 IMO they were Both Nerfed, not saying Miguel was Distracted, but he Was Clearly Desperate, which would make sense bc miguel is fighting extremely uncharacteristically, and lowkey fighting like his S1 self but with more Knowledge which would mean Miguel like in S4 when he was only focused on So many other things, and mentally nerfed in That season instead of fighting for his own spirit, he got shafted by himself which would= he was nerfed the whole fight while Robby was able to recover to peak/maybe above base bc he was in Focused/Locked in mode and theres no proof to say the same for Miguel(feel free to try to tho)
The blood clot of Tory mom: Strangulation🤦🏽
We can agree on the rest👍🏽
Hawk S4 > Miguel S4 if he was focused and didnt get injured High -Extreme diff
If Miguel didnt get injured he would probably scale to KD2 Chozen or KD3 Mike Barnes or even higher.
We can assume KD2 Chozen is =< Kwon due to contextual clues.
Yes I am a miguel glazer, I never liked robby as a character and i think the story started with miguel and should end with him. Robby should lose or drop out and mirror Johny except actually moving on from it and continuing life.
Bro woke up and chose to speak FAX!
Except for one thing, in season 4 Hawk is better than Robby and both of them are better than Miguel
And a fact that a lot of people need to accept is that mercy isn't a weakness, like Chozen said. Cobra Kai mentality is not necesarily the best. Miguel has the best mentality in season 5 when he sais he fights to be badass and find balance and also in season 3 when he found the strenght to recover, Robby has the best mentality in season 6 when he fights to be a champion and finds his purpuse and strenght in Tory, and Hawk had the best mentality in season 4 when he had that awesome boost of confidence, and also in season 5, when he shows how mature he is now.
In rest all fax bro, you are one of the few Cobra Kai fans who logically use their brain
Kwon Feats :
{speed skill}
Put a Bored high so he can do a 360 kick
{r.speed defense strength}
Blocked Yoon Kicks and Punches with ease. Kwon was on Defense while Yoon was on Offence Also he elbowed his leg mid blow.
{defense offence r.speed agility t.speed p.strength speed skill}
Again he was on Defense but he on Offence on some of the Attacks the he knocked out both of them with a 2 leged kick sideways also Kwon blocked both of their hits at the same time and triped them and punched them in the face.
{s.strength skills defence offence r.speed}
First Kwon blocked Yoon punched then sent a blow to his neck to stop him from breathing and knee kicked him in the stomach and pull his head up and showed no merch and then almost killed Yoon but he knocked him out instead.
{Overall}
Under-Rated
Goated with Skills, Defence, Offence, Dura/Endu/ Technique, S.strength and P.strength
edit: it was 540 or 720 , he really scales higher than Robby and Miguel
We haven’t seen any of them fight of the characters from the valley so how do u know how he will fare against them. You can’t scale him based on the kids he fought because we can’t scale hem either
first we'll see him fight with miguel or robby then decide
the kids he beat easily are featless
to say hes not featless you would need a connection to the main teens
youre saying that beating random kids with no feats or connections to any of the main teens proves that he beats anyone in the valley
@@Sean749 Kim stated that her students are stronger than the students from the valley (means e.g. S5 Kenny, Kyler, Devon and even S5 Tory)
You can’t scale him lmao he would be unquantifiable he hasn’t fought against ANYONE from the main cast
While I agree Miguel was focused in the S6 fight I do not believe he was balanced, unlike Robbie when tory came in. I'd say they are both equal while balanced.
No miguel was actually too focused on college but he lost fair and square but he was TOO focused on college
Dont think thats why he lost… miguel and Robby have always been on the same level and everytime they fight its really close. Not supprised robby would get a W.
His focuse on college was literally the reason he was up 2-0😭
@@christianromeo8198 no it wasn’t it was because robby wasn’t focused he was thinking about tory and not focusing on beating miguel, but when he stops thinking about her he starts coming back
@@erenchilling Bruh tell that to the people who swear Miguel lost because he was too focused on college😭💀
@@christianromeo8198 no it’s true when both miguel and robby are unbalanced miguel has the upper hand that’s why he was about to 3-0 robby, he wasn’t beating robby from the start because of “college”
KWON WOULD BEAT HIM WORSE THAN CHANG DID DRE IN THE REMAKE AND DRE WAS ALMOST HOSPITALIZED
I hope Robby and Miguel become a couple #Migby
They're brothers now💀
Idk about S4 Hawk, but Robby beat Miguel at pool fight
I see where your going at also tbh but Miguel was not focused in season 1 because of the break up with Sam in s1 and in s3 and s4 obviously Robby would be better
Kwon is scaled above the fighters in S6 PT1 and Hawk is better than Robby in S4 Robby said himself he won fair and square and S3 Hawk I would say is = to Robby or Maybe a little bit better
robby showed mercy to hawk so no hawk aint the better fighter. i think you need to rewatch s4
@@R-R66 robby didn't shown any signs of mercy to hawk
He was distracted by kenny
There is no signs of kwon being scaled above hawk
@@Sean749Miguel was better than Robby in season 5
literally everything you said ive always been saying lol. s1 robby almost won with 1 arm he was stronger. s2 miguel. s3 and 4 obv robby. season 5 miguel was a complete fair fight. s6 robby another complete fair fight. ppl needa learn not to overestimate there favorite character
s3 and s4 arent obviously robby, u can argue both to miguel
i dont know what yall are yapping about but i love every cobra kai character miguel robby and hawk are my fav
You said s5 Robbie would beat s5 Miguel what??
No, he is saying Miguel is better than Robby in season 5 and Robby is better in season 6
Miguel wasnt focused, he was desperate and not fighting at his best.
Facts
that doesn't make sense. both miguel and robby had a reason win.
@@jasonmadun5480facts
@@jasonmadun5480 facts
We can scale Kwon and Yoon we aren't glazing so idek what your chatting about
Ur a glazer
Bro why do Even have a profil pic of Kwon? He has like 5 minutes of screen time😂
@@Sean749 why tf u still saying glazing mad corny
@@Sean749 Bro your a robby d*ck rider you legit said robby s4 is better than hawk s4 i dont wanna hear it
@@Thedarkmickey My pfp isnt Kwon its gojo?
My top picks would be hardcore Cobra Kai mentality Robby, hardcore Cobra Kai mentality Tory, hardcore Cobra Kai mentality Miguel, hardcore Cobra Kai = Eagle Fang mentality Sam, hardcore Cobra Kai mentality Hawk, and hardcore Cobra Kai mentality Kenny under hardcore Cobra Kai mentality SenSei John Lawrence for the sekai taikai with Kyler, Brucks, and Shawn as backups just in case 1 of them got injured or killed!
Hawk in S4 is better than robby s4 Yes Robby get distracted. But Hawk was confirmed to be the best fighter and S4 and Robby injured Hawk's leg before Hawk beat him even Robby said himself Hawk won fair and Square
Hawk win fairly but that doesn’t mean that he was the stronger fighter. Robby would have won if Kenny didn’t distract him
@@Sean749that’s quite literally exactly what it means. And if that wasn’t enough the writers themselves have said that hawk is stronger and nothing overrules the writers.
He is a Robby fanboy
@@Sean749 That distraction is irrelevant. First of all there’s a behind the scene shot of it not lasting a second and with Robby saying he won fair and square it is heavily implied the distraction didn’t matter. Secondly, it wouldn’t have even been sudden death if it weren’t for the buzzer which is very likely Silvers doing. Thirdly, Daniel tells Hawk to use Miyagi do which is his inferior style against Robby in the first round. He literally lost a point to Robby because of Daniel being a dumbass. Had he used his superior style first round sudden death wouldn’t be a thing. Lastly, the final point Hawk scores is with an injured leg that Robby hammered which is an illegal move not considered cause of the paid ref.
Miguel is better than Robby in s6 he IS unfocused confirmed by the writers. Miguel saying Robby is nerfed is his emotion which he very clearly gets over. Both of them being unbalanced Miguel 2-0d. Why should balanced Robby be better than balanced Miguel if he’s worse when both are nerfed and still gets pressed by nerf Miguel at peak? If anyone is losing brain cells, it’s you.
@@gg41451 W
for all the miguel glazers out there, kwon is stronger than miguel and thats a fact so stop glazing plsss bro
There’s no facts shown
HE HAS NO FUCKING FEATS
YOU KWON GLAZERS ARE SO FUCKING ANNOYING
@Venom2534-h2i how you know when we only saw him like a few min????
@@R-R66are you stupid? We haven’t seen him perform any feats that justify putting him above, the only reason we could have kwon on top is due to Kim Da Euns statement
Guys. Migul wins that and that is it
Ah yes, Migul
Miguel won the street fight against Robby
Ik in the vid I made a mistake and said Robby better than Miguel in szn 5 I meant the other way around
Robby vs Hawk (s4)
Strength : Robby
Speed : Hawk
IQ/Intelligence : Hawk
Battle IQ : Robby
Durability : Robby
Endurance : Hawk
Skill : Robby
Agility : Hawk=Robby
Punching : Hawk
Kicking : Robby =<
Offense : Hawk
Defense : Robby
Technique : Robby
Combat Speed : Hawk
Combat : Robby
Style : Hawk
Power : Robby
Offense+Defense : Hawk
Combat EXP : Hawk
Overall : Hawk wins Extreme Diff
Half those things don’t matter in a fight and also if u watched the fight Robby could have won if he didn’t get distracted
@@Sean749 yeah bud your chatting
@@Sean749 literally all of those matter in a fight what r u saying
@@Sean749 only intelligence and style dont matter
@@Sean749 He's not talking about a tournament He's talking about a real fight
Well Mr miyagi in the karate kid trilogy is definitely not in his prime considering he was like 50/60 and he was still able to dog walk kreese and silver so I think the only thing kid Johnny takes over current Johnny is speed flexibility and mabye kicks also Kim stated that yoon was the he best fighter and his family trained there for decades implies he might of started at a young age and kwon low diffed the best students including yoon
S6 Miguel vs every Robby version'
S6 Miguel vs Robby S1: Miguel no-low diff
S6 Miguel vs Robby S2: Miguel low-diff
S6 Miguel vs Robby S3: Miguel low-mid
S6 Miguel vs Robby S4: Miguel mid diff
S6 Miguel vs Robby S5: Miguel mid-high diff
S6 Miguel vs Robby S6: Robby mid diff
S1 Robby low-diff
S2 Miguel High-diff
S3 Robby low-diff
S4 Miguel high diff
S5 Miguel mid-high-diff
S6 Robby mid-diff
Robby vs Kwon (No bullshi)
Lifting Strength : Robby =<
Striking Strength : Kwon
Ap/Durability : Kwon
C/R Speed : Kwon
IQ/Intelligence : Kwon
Battle Iq : Kwon =<
Offense : Kwon
Defense : Robby
Combat : Kwon
Skillset : Kwon
Experience : Robby
Endurance : Robby
Flexibility : Kwon
Combos : Kwon
Counter attacks : Robby
Technique : Robby
Winner : Kwon high diff
How do u know kwon is stronger or more dura or more experienced. We haven’t seen him fight any other characters beside the student we can’t scale!
@@Sean749 Kim legit scaled them higher than the usa students
@@Sean749 striking strength: u clearly see the boards they break in south Korea are way thicker than the ones in miyagi do. dura ur right about, experience: kwon trained his whole life
Go to my Miguel vs Robby s6 take there is a proff of xolo saying his biggest weakness is collge Miguel>Robby s6 Robby>Miguel s1
YOO IM YO 100 SUB W IN THE CHAT
Is this dude serious
Aight so imma debunk all ur points on Robby vs Miguel every season.
You shoulder argument doesnt work. It literally was working for the first 2 round where both scored points on each other. This makes them relative and keep in mind Miguel wasn’t at his peak due to his mental nerf with Sam. He was enraged and barely cared about his victory after wards. Enraged is a mental nerf in the ck verse since it’s defined by “uncontrollable anger” so yeah mental nerf Miguel went relative to peak Robby later round are irrelevant since it ain’t a peak Miguel anyway and we know peak Robby and mental nerf Miguel are relative. If you don’t think he had a mental nerf ur wrong cause definitively he did.
In season 3 writers confirmed he was better since he gets a resolve amp which fixes his body permanently (stated by Miguel himself his back was in better shape than ever) and gains back his season 2 skills. Season 2 skills from Miguel are already enough for season 3 Robby since he doesn’t train at all but in addition to gaining his season 2 skills he gains the drum technique which we know is a huge buff since in kk2 Daniel went from trading hits and being extremely relative to Chozen to being able to completely out class him with drum technique. So yeah Miguel s3 is Miguel s2 (already enough for s3 Robby) with a broken technique and writer statement to back him up. There’s no argument for Robby winning this season (no valid one at least).
Season 4 your just completely wrong. I already debunked your Kenny distraction in another comment I suggest reading that so that should just put Hawk > Robby. Hawk beat Robby and was getting outclassed by Miguel and no he was not only fucking using Miyagi Do. The man literally states he isn’t gonna hold back so why would he use the far inferior style? He strikes first against Kyler and only uses Miyagi do in the first round against Robby due to Daniel’s statement. He literally throws a barrage of attacks which is NOT shown to be a Miyagi Do philosophy and he also throws the same kick as Miguel so for you to argue Hawk was only using Miyagi do you’d also have to be arguing Miguel also is only using Miyagi do which is NOT true because he strikes first 😭. So that debunks the idea of Eli only using Miyagi do. Miguel is also outclassing Eli in this fight which is later stated by Kenny and Johnny. So basically Miguel > Hawk > Robby in s4 really simply scaling you just can’t understand for some reason.
Season 6 I wrote in the same comment if my debunk on you for Robby vs Hawk s4.
Enjoy responding/conceding 😁😊
This is one of the worst takes I’ve ever heard
You're probably a robby glazer
@@Migueldiaz-h5u how?
@@Sean749You keep saying stupid stuff that doesn’t make any sense just so you can glaze Robby. Miguel is way better than Robby and always will be. How about you rethink your entire argument and other arguments on Cobra Kai and you’ll see how you’re wrong
@@coltongold give an example
@@Sean749 You say that Miguel is so cringey when he’s not. Miguel has gone through so much so it makes sense for him to be upset. Miguel is way tougher than Robby. Robby takes everything personally and that what makes him a boring character. Miguel has more character arc. So Miguel is better than Robby in most seasons
@@coltongold so getting upset and not doing anything makes you tougher than taking things personally. Makes no sense. Also Miguel’s character arc ended in szn 5 while Robbie’s is still going so u can’t say which one is better since Robbie’s isn’t even done.
Your on something bro I don't even understand what your talking about stay on a topic please☠️
Buddy go to sleep
Exactly bro the same thing goes for hawk everyone glazing hawk after fighting some fodder like bro hop off w vid though
S1. Robby
S2. Miguel
S3. Hawk = Robby
S4. Hawk >= Robby
S5. Miguel> Robby>Hawk
s1 robby is better in a tournament but in a street fight miguel would beat u
Whole comment section is clowning u like no one agreed with u
Miguel s4 Is WAY better than Kyler in s4 and Hawk and Robby S4 and S3 was better than Miguel