The reason I subbed to this channel many moons ago is because you gave people on a tight budget a realistic idea of what they need for a decent gaming rig, and you still do. Something that I've yet to find on another channel. Kudos to you sir ...
LowSpecGamer used to do that but he has hidden all his tutorial videos to upload tech documentaries. Which still great videos, but i didn't see the need to hide his older videos.
I would also strongly recommended a channel named pc builder for the best performance/budget builds. It’s the best channel I have seen for that by far.
4 Cores, 8 Threads, Boost up to 4,5 Ghz. This is entry level today. Just imagine - a few years back, exactly this was top of the notch. My i7 7700K is literally the same specs, only that it is 14nm and not 10nm.
The reason why you are seeing slightly higher performance on 13100 is that it boosts to 4.5ghz Vs 4.4ghz in the 12300. As stated below it's exactly same CPU as 12th gen, so intel could have called it 12350. But they called it 13100 to capitalise on the launch of proper 13th gen parts. The general public needs to be more educated on this fact.
the fact of the matter is that intel delivered on this gen an excellent product lineup for most people: 13100, 13400, 13500. I find it less confusing that they use a newer gen, as long as they always state that the product is basically an improved alder lake, which they are doing. People are sleeping on the low end, and AMD hasnt delivered anything near intel's level in decades because their architecture starts scaling well in +6-8 core configurations
Nice, that's pretty solid performance there, it's remarkable to see how the i3's have evolved over the years. A few years ago, the i3's with 2 cores and 4 threads would never have performed anywhere near like this level. Even older i7 CPU's with 4 cores and 8 threads were nowhere near this level of performance. I look forward to your 13400F video in the future, as I remember that you praised the 12th gen i3's and i5's regarding their performance. I would use one of these CPU's myself if budget was a limiting factor (but I'm going to use the i9-13900K when I build a PC).
i3 is becoming the new i5, i5 becoming the i7 and the i7 becoming the i9. And its only going to go up from here. I3 in time will have 6-8 cores/ threads
I've had an i3 12100f for about 6 months now, after my old i5 3470 system died. I'm impressed so far. The motherboard will also allow the 13th gen too, which I'm pleased about
I just got my brother's old gaming rig I5 4790k and RX 580 still runs everything really well. I am probably going to be upgrading CPU and Mother board ion a year or 2, but the GPU is staying for a bit(plays all the old games I need mainly) until I can get a good deal on like a 3060ti or 6700 or maybe even 7700 from AMD.
Same cpu and same time with it. Love it. Although it's better to buy a better 13th gen cpu in 4 or 3 years. like a 13600k and that'll work for even more 4 years
@@angrysocialjusticewarrior it was an 11-12 year old system that I got given by a friend 6 years ago. It was a pretty low spec pre-built with some mostly used upgrades. I salvaged the ram for my son's pc and will use the SSD again.
Dude the stock cooler is terrible. I was instaling a DODI repack game (Cyberpunk) and it was hovering around 83C and spiking up to 96C and throttling like crazy. I canceled the install and tried again after installing a Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 and it hovered at 53C, never got about 57C, and of course never throttled. The stock cooler is garbage. DODI and Fitgirl repacks are very CPU intensive to install because of compression, fyi.
10100/10100F is still decent but you have to lower the settings on some games to maintain 60 FPS, Elden Ring in particular seems to be very demanding on the CPU on anything higher than the medium preset for some reason and you definitely won't maintain 60 on Cyberpunk 2077 unless crowd density/slow HDD mode is set to low/on. The IPC increase in 12th/13th-gen i3s is pretty insane and IMO will keep running newer games at high settings + 60 FPS for years to come.
The 13500 is the one that looks the most intriguing to me. It has the same p/e cores as the 13600k and the same amount of cache just with slightly lower clocks.
Careful, the 13500 is apparently based on the older alder lake cores (with refreshed production process) and won't offer the same amounts of cache sadly. Edit: apparently only 11.5MB Vs 20 MB of L2 Cache
I have the 12100F and it's really good for a CPU that cost me 110-ish£ and I made a good budget build out of it. Great vid! Edit: If anyone is interested what's my build it's this: i3 12100F 16 GB 3200 MHz T-Force Vulcan Z RAM GTX 1050 Ti (I will replace it for a Intel GPU when I get a chance) 120 GB SSD (with 2 external drives for games) Thermaltake V200 TG RGB and a 700w PSU I had lying around Edit 2: My mobo is a ASRock B660 Pro RS (I forgot to include in the list)
@@mjdevlog I bought the 1050 Ti (brand new from Manli) during the shortage lol and it was surprisingly cheap BC I needed a GPU so I payed 190€ to get this card
@@gabbythegamer79 Yeah but that thing is a beast for it's price (kind of). I didn't expect it to run Yuzu emulator smoothly but turns out it does deliver!
so glad you got one, i’ve got my hands on a 13400 arriving soon and i wanna see how it stacks up edit: also pentiums and celeron s are officially gone, replaced with the “intel processor” branding.
@@RandomGaminginHD You should compare it to Ryzen 4 4500 6 cores 12 threads and is like 25$ cheaper but worth price , would those extra 2 cores & 4 threads make it worth it ?
Given how far things have evolved for these i3 CPUS, it would be very interesting to see how they compare to the last of the quad core i7 cpus from back in the day, perhaps compare it to the i7 6700 from that old dell that you looked at recently. I subbed to your channel years ago because of how chill and wonderful your videos are and I am very happy to see how far you have evolved and how much higher quality your content has gotten over the years! Most tech tubers focus on the ultra high end of the market, looking at the halo products that most people can’t even dream of affording. While it is important to have coverage of that part of the market, it is also very important for people like yourself to cover the more value focused part of the market and prove time and time again that you can have an excellent gaming experience on budget hardware, especially these days. Here’s to more fantastic content in 2023!
I'm one of those with a 12100F and a 3060 Ti. Well I built my 12100F system in 2022 February and kept my GTX 1070 at the time and only managed to upgrade to a second hand 3060 Ti in 2022 September. For me this pairing is about right since I play on a 2560x1080 Ultrawide monitor tho only 75 Hz/FPS capped at the refresh rate. I don't play competitive games at all and in singleplayer games I just crank the settings up and this way I'm still most of the time GPU limited at 95-99% usage, currently playing Cyberpunk with the Digital Foundry's tweaked settings + RT Reflections/Lights on Ultra with DLSS Quality between 50-60 fps on average which is enough for me in singleplayer games. At some point I might upgrade to a 13400F but for now I have no need for it to be honest as it runs everything I'm playing or planning to play/backlog games.
Would've preferred if you'd compared the 12th and 13th gen game by game instead of just at the end. I know it's more work but it makes the comparison clearer. Thanks, and great video!
i3 13100 is like the i3 10105, they just raised the clock speed quite a bit, Intel would have been better off adding at least a couple of energy efficient cores and it would have been just a great budget processor. The i3 12100 was a real breakthrough in performance. we are waiting for the budget decision of the 14th generation... but meteor lake is postponed instead of it there will be a raptor lake refresh 😥
say me pleas where u buy lga motherboard ddr5 under 150 because this motherboards with ddr5 rams is cost so much,am4 mt ddr4 50 bucks now u can buy gpu for 100 more ddr4 rams Patriot PSD416G3200K 40 bucks budget build with rx6600 turn on csm and u get best performance for money im not talking about best pc but cheapest for money for performance
@@RubyKaneki he probably uses ddr4 for budget builds, because with ddr4 zen 3 is only a few percentage points behind in performance (I would get amd for best budget and Intel ddr4 for midrange/creators)
@@w04h ofc, but alder and raptor lake scale with ram speed quite good. Ofc i3s don’t have insane differences, but with i5s there is at least a well measurable delta BUT ddr5 is literally twice the price for roughly 5-10% more performance… So for people that build high end or „future proof“ I recommend getting Ryzen 7000 with ddr5 so you can have speed AND cpu upgrades that are meaningful xD
It could be possible to get 60fps at 1440p on those games with that setup, you should test that against the 12300 and the nearest competitive Ryzen CPU.
Great video, I've always wanted to get my hands on a raptor lake chip but I'm stuck with the pentium g7400 lol. I wish that intel would make an i3 K chip once again to encourage entry level overclocking.
THIS is why I watch this channel. Most of my customers dont want to build RTX 4090 PCs with i9s and huge AIOs. THey want i5s with 3060s and maybe used pc parts
I got an i3 12100f and an RX 6600. To everyone who is struggling with the decision: It's worth it! And dont get tricked by the high utilitsation, the backround tasks like discord work just fine :)
I'd be great to compare them to the last 4 core flagship i7 7700k or the last Ryzen 4 core.. don't even remember what that was. It'd be interesting nonetheless!!
i just bought an i3 13100f, coupled with an AMD RX 570 8GB, 16GB DDR4 3000, Biostar B660T Silver and some NVME / SATA SSD. This is just insane for the price of a little more than 130€ (for the i3)
Really impressed with the i3's lately. Wondering if i could get a fairly recent used one and use it for a homeserver/NAS, they seem pretty efficient overall.
Run one myself but in a desktop build and they are crazy efficient, only thing that would obviously be better is to repurpose Laptop chips cuz Nas and homeservers often don‘t need this much performance :)
It would be the perfect budget Buy if intel decided to add some Ecore, even 2 ecore would have boost significantly multitasking performance. Anyway thanks for the review RGHD!
You should include the new Need for Speed Unbound in the benchmarks. It runs on the Frostbite engine and supports dlss/fsr and seems more cpu heavy than most modern games.
@intro: I believe the Celeron and Pentium brands have been officially discontinued by Intel, no? Or was that only for mobile chips? And thank you for still benchmarking GTA V, it is very useful for comparing stuff with older benchmarks of different products, and for comparing real gpus with integrated graphics.
Imo the i3 and i5s are more interesting than the top-of-the-line chips because of their value. I got my 12400 for $160 at Micro Center, and it has been great for gaming.
What more IPC? The 13100 is a 12300 with 100mhz higher boost clock. Only the mid to high end skus for 13th gen are actually RKL, the rest are rebadged ADL (12th gen).
I think the 13100 is suffering a bit from how close in price the 12400 is. I know i'd rather have the 6 cores even if 4 cores is still enough most of the time, especially with the possibility to multitask/use discord while gaming etc.
Love all your videos man. I would suggest testing battlefield 2042 as well, that game will test the CPU even more than alot of other games out there. Just a suggestion though. Other than that, wish you a happy new year buddy 🙂
I just bought a 10100f and could not be happier, especially upgrading from a stock i5 750. With performance comparable and even exceeding intels highest end quad core i7s, it should last me at least 6 years.
Can't wait for the time when Intel adding in i3 couple or more E-cores with saving a ~100 bucks price. It would be a massive banger in a budget gaming.
Thanks for the review. If I can give you some advice, can you please make the fps comparisons with a graph instead? It'll be much easier to read and understand the performance difference. Looking forward for your next videos!
I'd be interested in seeing some old Intel Xeon benchmarks in 2023 (almost said 2022-), I picked up an E5-2670 v4 for a paltry 20 dollars and it got me 14 cores and 28 threads, which works wonders on multi threaded games and loads, despite being over 5 years old.
What mbd did you use? I noticed relevant mbd prices on Aliexpress have jumped quite a lot compared to back when I did some v1/v2 builds using such parts.
i was really hoping to see the i3 finally get a bump to at least 6 cores this gen (maybe 4P + 2E). but oh well, still some solid performance for a budget quad core.
I will say this much, comparison charts show it beating the pants off my current i5-6600k. I am building a new gaming rig with an i5-13600K but my current system is getting a new mobo, an AIO water cooler, and the i3-13100 as it's going to become my photoshop/substance painter/iRay render server machine. Everything else still in this system can be used such as the DDR4 memory. No clue how much longer my current 7 year old system will last so may as well update it.
Given that you can get a Ryzen 4500 with 6 cores and 12 threads for $70 brand new (or 5500 for under $100) it seems like a hard sell to buy 13th gen Intel unless going with DDR5. And then it's unlikely you'd opt for a 13100. We just have a lot of really great performing budget options at the moment. - Might make a good video. All the CPUs you can get for $125 or less brand new vs eachother.
Note the Ryzen 4000s are only Zen2, with a significant cache and PCIe disadvantage aswell; hence, even with its smaller cache, the 5500 or entry i3s would be usefully quicker, and I say that as someone who has a 1600 AF, 2600X, 2700X, 3600 and 5600X. As MrSammy points out though, stock issues can muddy such decisions.
I've built an Asus B660M-A D4 with i3 13100 (with graphics, no discrete board), an m2 drive in a Q300l case with a seasonic supply. I had previously a i5 9th Gen (with SSD and 16gb RAM). The metrics gave a little extra for the i3 (I think the m2 drive helped). But what really made the difference in Windows 11 was the RAM, I started with 16gb RAM in the new computer but when I added 16 more, it's a totally different experience, like night and day.
8:26 I love your videos, but this is a lot of information put in different parts of my screen with motion in the background and I’m gonna be nauseous xD Crazy to see how modern quad cores can deliver high refresh rate in AAA games - I’ve been running my second system with an i7 4770 and GTX 1060 and I’m impressed with the amount of punch quad cores still have.
i run a i3 10th gen with 32gb ddr4 3600 ram and a overclocked asus 3060 and play all games great at 1440p and around 40 to 60fps on 4k (some deffo need dlss) but love the set up for now . will be upgrading this yr to an i9 11th gen and 3080
As much as I would love to buy one of these, I just can't with Intel's constant swapping of motherboards. Would I need to upgrade in the future? Maybe (I do mainly play old games), but who knows. AMD is just a lot more secure on upgrades typically. Since they try to stick with a motherboard socket for a while.
@@dualpapayas should've asked for Core i3 11100F against 7700K because it was roughly equal 4c/8t That's why I said Core i3 12300 already beat an OC 8700K which is insanely good despite different Cores/Threads count
If it's higher clock speed which based on Alder Lake, then why the Wattage slightly lower on 13100F ? That should be higher if it's actually based on Alder Lake
@@ClayWheeler I don't know mate, maybe they made improvements to the intel 7 node, or sth like that. But it is a alder lake part, I am not making that up, take a look in Intels own slides.
1:57 Excellent performance from that i3, but do you really need over 600fps? Given that you seem to die a lot (according to the footage anyway), I'd have to say no - whack the settings up and let's see what the i3 can really do when pushed :).
When you're testing CPUs, you want the bottleneck to be the CPU - not the GPU. The lower the settings, the higher the FPS and the more strain on the CPU as it has to keep up with the GPU. Also, in competitive games it's the 1% and 0.1% lows that matter.
Personally i feel like i would prob get a 5600 over this for the performance, but since idk if I would be able to upgrade to 14th gen with LGA1700 motherboard(considering how often intel changes their motherboard) so its hard to decide
Hey. You have "25$ CrossFire Experience" video. Can you do a retro-budget build PC but with A-series AMD APU + R7 250 for example to see how dual gpu works in nowdays.
That is a solid cpu. Id like to see it compared to a ryzen 5-5600. I paid $129 for mine on sale 2 months ago. if the price is similar which budget build would you choose?
They're basically identical in most games... The Ryzen has a slight lead in games that can utilize more than 4 cores, though... And the i3 has a slight lead in games that can't...
I'm really excited to see if/how these locked 13th gen chips do combined with the new b660 boards that support external clockgen overclocking. I suspect they have a LOT of headroom
I read about how from the 13500 to the 13100f they re use alderlake architectures from what i saw of your number it does seems that way. So are they just selling the same chip with a slight bump in cache and frequency?
i5 13500 probably is more the budget king, since you can get far more than double threads for just under double the money 4P+0E for 8 threads v 6P+8E for 20 threads
A direct NEW GAMES (not CS, GTA, Apex, Battlefield and all these) benchmark comparison with a 10 year old i7-3770 (non K) would be splendid. 4C 8T 3.4-3.9Ghz
Intel left the 13200 and 13300 names empty. I wonder if they are/were planning to release more i3s with E-cores? I bet the 4 P cores would really appreciate to have those extra threads take over the background tasks.
The reason I subbed to this channel many moons ago is because you gave people on a tight budget a realistic idea of what they need for a decent gaming rig, and you still do. Something that I've yet to find on another channel. Kudos to you sir ...
Another good channel for this is Tech Yes City.
@@mapesdhs597 Tech yes is great.
LowSpecGamer used to do that but he has hidden all his tutorial videos to upload tech documentaries. Which still great videos, but i didn't see the need to hide his older videos.
@@Splarkszter Maybe companies were coming at him?
I would also strongly recommended a channel named pc builder for the best performance/budget builds. It’s the best channel I have seen for that by far.
if i'm not wrong this is the very first video on youtube I've seen about the i3-13100f processor. good job
Thanks :)
@@RandomGaminginHDpentium and celeron are death .
The new name is just Intel processor.
That is it nothing more.
And it only use e-core.
@@IslamIsTheBest12131 its on the video man.. 3060ti
@@IslamIsTheBest12131 watch the video
4 Cores, 8 Threads, Boost up to 4,5 Ghz. This is entry level today. Just imagine - a few years back, exactly this was top of the notch. My i7 7700K is literally the same specs, only that it is 14nm and not 10nm.
The reason why you are seeing slightly higher performance on 13100 is that it boosts to 4.5ghz Vs 4.4ghz in the 12300. As stated below it's exactly same CPU as 12th gen, so intel could have called it 12350. But they called it 13100 to capitalise on the launch of proper 13th gen parts. The general public needs to be more educated on this fact.
the fact of the matter is that intel delivered on this gen an excellent product lineup for most people: 13100, 13400, 13500. I find it less confusing that they use a newer gen, as long as they always state that the product is basically an improved alder lake, which they are doing. People are sleeping on the low end, and AMD hasnt delivered anything near intel's level in decades because their architecture starts scaling well in +6-8 core configurations
Nice, that's pretty solid performance there, it's remarkable to see how the i3's have evolved over the years. A few years ago, the i3's with 2 cores and 4 threads would never have performed anywhere near like this level. Even older i7 CPU's with 4 cores and 8 threads were nowhere near this level of performance.
I look forward to your 13400F video in the future, as I remember that you praised the 12th gen i3's and i5's regarding their performance. I would use one of these CPU's myself if budget was a limiting factor (but I'm going to use the i9-13900K when I build a PC).
Yeah an i3 is all a lot of people will need at the moment. I5 vid should be coming soon
Thank amd for that
13500 has 4 more e cores than 13400 so that might be even better value depending on performance
4790K for cheap 😊
i3 is becoming the new i5, i5 becoming the i7 and the i7 becoming the i9. And its only going to go up from here. I3 in time will have 6-8 cores/ threads
I've had an i3 12100f for about 6 months now, after my old i5 3470 system died. I'm impressed so far. The motherboard will also allow the 13th gen too, which I'm pleased about
Yeah it’s a great chip and a nice upgrade :)
I just got my brother's old gaming rig I5 4790k and RX 580 still runs everything really well. I am probably going to be upgrading CPU and Mother board ion a year or 2, but the GPU is staying for a bit(plays all the old games I need mainly) until I can get a good deal on like a 3060ti or 6700 or maybe even 7700 from AMD.
Same cpu and same time with it. Love it. Although it's better to buy a better 13th gen cpu in 4 or 3 years. like a 13600k and that'll work for even more 4 years
How does a system even die at all? What were you doing with your i5 that destroyed it?
@@angrysocialjusticewarrior it was an 11-12 year old system that I got given by a friend 6 years ago. It was a pretty low spec pre-built with some mostly used upgrades. I salvaged the ram for my son's pc and will use the SSD again.
It's good they changed stock cooler design all those years. That's the best thing i saw in 12th, so good that i would use stock instead of AIO. 😅
Yeah it looks great, and works well too!
It sounds like a spaceship but it keeps the cpu cool
@@isakhelgesson8421 its "only" about 2°C colder
copper core, thats like Core 2 Quad ere, what the hell 😂
Dude the stock cooler is terrible. I was instaling a DODI repack game (Cyberpunk) and it was hovering around 83C and spiking up to 96C and throttling like crazy. I canceled the install and tried again after installing a Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 and it hovered at 53C, never got about 57C, and of course never throttled. The stock cooler is garbage.
DODI and Fitgirl repacks are very CPU intensive to install because of compression, fyi.
Bought my 10100f 2 years ago now and still loving the performance with my GTX 1660. Bought all of the setup for 280 usd.
Great setup for a great price :)
Great value for money!
thats still a good value even today due to infalction and the apocalypse recession 😏👍
10100/10100F is still decent but you have to lower the settings on some games to maintain 60 FPS, Elden Ring in particular seems to be very demanding on the CPU on anything higher than the medium preset for some reason and you definitely won't maintain 60 on Cyberpunk 2077 unless crowd density/slow HDD mode is set to low/on.
The IPC increase in 12th/13th-gen i3s is pretty insane and IMO will keep running newer games at high settings + 60 FPS for years to come.
That's amazing
The 13500 is the one that looks the most intriguing to me. It has the same p/e cores as the 13600k and the same amount of cache just with slightly lower clocks.
👍👍
Careful, the 13500 is apparently based on the older alder lake cores (with refreshed production process) and won't offer the same amounts of cache sadly.
Edit: apparently only 11.5MB Vs 20 MB of L2 Cache
all these extra efficiency cores just don't matter for gaming. it's only good for productivity.
@@Hufman the 13500 have 24 MB Cache, is the same chip of the 13600k with lower clockspeed
@@DerToasti Yeah, it's just a way for intel to inflate their core counts and get away with lower temperature CPU's
I have the 12100F and it's really good for a CPU that cost me 110-ish£ and I made a good budget build out of it. Great vid!
Edit: If anyone is interested what's my build it's this:
i3 12100F
16 GB 3200 MHz T-Force Vulcan Z RAM
GTX 1050 Ti (I will replace it for a Intel GPU when I get a chance)
120 GB SSD (with 2 external drives for games)
Thermaltake V200 TG RGB
and a 700w PSU I had lying around
Edit 2: My mobo is a ASRock B660 Pro RS (I forgot to include in the list)
Nice one!
Yoo it's the same with me! I also use 12100f and (used) 1050 Ti! (which i regret because adding some bucks will get me a 1070)
@@mjdevlog I bought the 1050 Ti (brand new from Manli) during the shortage lol and it was surprisingly cheap BC I needed a GPU so I payed 190€ to get this card
Went with a 6 core Ryzen 5 5500...dirt cheap A520 board and 32gb DDR4. Works well with my GTX1070 I got for peanuts.
@@gabbythegamer79 Yeah but that thing is a beast for it's price (kind of). I didn't expect it to run Yuzu emulator smoothly but turns out it does deliver!
so glad you got one, i’ve got my hands on a 13400 arriving soon and i wanna see how it stacks up
edit: also pentiums and celeron s are officially gone, replaced with the “intel processor” branding.
Oh no :( good news that you’re getting a 13400 though!
RIP Trash Celeron and nostalgic pentium
@@RandomGaminginHD You should compare it to Ryzen 4 4500 6 cores 12 threads and is like 25$ cheaper but worth price , would those extra 2 cores & 4 threads make it worth it ?
@@huzarion3814 The ryzen 4500 is trash value, it is a zen 2 chip while the 5500 which is only a couple of dollars more expensive is zen 3
"Intel Processor" on a listing just looks like the seller doesn't want to admit it's a Celeron.
Given how far things have evolved for these i3 CPUS, it would be very interesting to see how they compare to the last of the quad core i7 cpus from back in the day, perhaps compare it to the i7 6700 from that old dell that you looked at recently.
I subbed to your channel years ago because of how chill and wonderful your videos are and I am very happy to see how far you have evolved and how much higher quality your content has gotten over the years! Most tech tubers focus on the ultra high end of the market, looking at the halo products that most people can’t even dream of affording. While it is important to have coverage of that part of the market, it is also very important for people like yourself to cover the more value focused part of the market and prove time and time again that you can have an excellent gaming experience on budget hardware, especially these days.
Here’s to more fantastic content in 2023!
Great video like always. You should do the same video but with the arc GPUs to see if there is any improvement
That would actually be quite interesting.
I'm one of those with a 12100F and a 3060 Ti.
Well I built my 12100F system in 2022 February and kept my GTX 1070 at the time and only managed to upgrade to a second hand 3060 Ti in 2022 September.
For me this pairing is about right since I play on a 2560x1080 Ultrawide monitor tho only 75 Hz/FPS capped at the refresh rate.
I don't play competitive games at all and in singleplayer games I just crank the settings up and this way I'm still most of the time GPU limited at 95-99% usage, currently playing Cyberpunk with the Digital Foundry's tweaked settings + RT Reflections/Lights on Ultra with DLSS Quality between 50-60 fps on average which is enough for me in singleplayer games.
At some point I might upgrade to a 13400F but for now I have no need for it to be honest as it runs everything I'm playing or planning to play/backlog games.
sounds about rite, yeah just hold the line unless you have a component fail on u
I'm actually really interested in the 13500, 14 cores 20 threads for a fairly low price
Yeah looks good!
I'm really interested in the 13900k and how that will perform, seeing as my plan is to get one (along with a 3090ti).
@@TheSpotify95 lmao
What are you on lmao
@@TheSpotify95 3090ti what a scam bro
Would've preferred if you'd compared the 12th and 13th gen game by game instead of just at the end. I know it's more work but it makes the comparison clearer. Thanks, and great video!
i3 13100 is like the i3 10105, they just raised the clock speed quite a bit, Intel would have been better off adding at least a couple of energy efficient cores and it would have been just a great budget processor. The i3 12100 was a real breakthrough in performance.
we are waiting for the budget decision of the 14th generation... but meteor lake is postponed instead of it there will be a raptor lake refresh 😥
I agree Intel missed an opportunity to add like 2-4 E-cores
I think we'll see something like a 4P+4E 13300 of some kind.
they dont see the need to improve at the moment, everything around us is collapsing so everybody is like on a Hold
E-cores are just waste of space, why would anyone pay for them, especially if he is on the budget.
@@aleksazunjic9672 12th generation mobile processors already have e-cores i3-1215U.
$109 for this is an incredible deal. can't wait to see a 13400f 6 core for $200!
say me pleas where u buy lga motherboard ddr5 under 150 because this motherboards with ddr5 rams is cost so much,am4 mt ddr4 50 bucks now u can buy gpu for 100 more ddr4 rams Patriot PSD416G3200K 40 bucks budget build with rx6600 turn on csm and u get best performance for money im not talking about best pc but cheapest for money for performance
@@RubyKaneki Go away LIAR AMD shill.
@@RubyKaneki he probably uses ddr4 for budget builds, because with ddr4 zen 3 is only a few percentage points behind in performance (I would get amd for best budget and Intel ddr4 for midrange/creators)
@@RubyKaneki You don't need ddr5, ddr4 is fine.
@@w04h ofc, but alder and raptor lake scale with ram speed quite good. Ofc i3s don’t have insane differences, but with i5s there is at least a well measurable delta BUT ddr5 is literally twice the price for roughly 5-10% more performance…
So for people that build high end or „future proof“ I recommend getting Ryzen 7000 with ddr5 so you can have speed AND cpu upgrades that are meaningful xD
It could be possible to get 60fps at 1440p on those games with that setup, you should test that against the 12300 and the nearest competitive Ryzen CPU.
I believe that would be the r5 5600.
Probably yeah.
Great video, I've always wanted to get my hands on a raptor lake chip but I'm stuck with the pentium g7400 lol. I wish that intel would make an i3 K chip once again to encourage entry level overclocking.
I hope so too!
That's nostalgic
I would loke to see something like a 13300K. Maybe just a 4P+4E or just 4P chip would be great.
yes unlock everything!
THIS is why I watch this channel. Most of my customers dont want to build RTX 4090 PCs with i9s and huge AIOs. THey want i5s with 3060s and maybe used pc parts
I got an i3 12100f and an RX 6600. To everyone who is struggling with the decision: It's worth it! And dont get tricked by the high utilitsation, the backround tasks like discord work just fine :)
Or get an Arc GPU sometimes you might get it for cheaper than the 6600 though the drivers aren't the best due to Intel being new to discrete GPU's.
Nice combo :)
finally someone is talking about the new chips and not a 4070 ti
Yeah it’s hard to get excited about some of the new graphics cards given the prices
I'd be great to compare them to the last 4 core flagship i7 7700k or the last Ryzen 4 core.. don't even remember what that was. It'd be interesting nonetheless!!
I think the i3 10100 already performs better than 7700
i just bought an i3 13100f, coupled with an AMD RX 570 8GB, 16GB DDR4 3000, Biostar B660T Silver and some NVME / SATA SSD. This is just insane for the price of a little more than 130€ (for the i3)
damn, that forza clip 😭 rest in peace ken!
Really impressed with the i3's lately.
Wondering if i could get a fairly recent used one and use it for a homeserver/NAS, they seem pretty efficient overall.
Run one myself but in a desktop build and they are crazy efficient, only thing that would obviously be better is to repurpose Laptop chips cuz Nas and homeservers often don‘t need this much performance :)
It'a good for 60 fps in any game with a decent enough graphics card. Awesome to see.
It would be the perfect budget Buy if intel decided to add some Ecore, even 2 ecore would have boost significantly multitasking performance. Anyway thanks for the review RGHD!
Kudos! You're one of the earliest to review this amazing chip :)
I will definitely get this for emulation.
You should include the new Need for Speed Unbound in the benchmarks. It runs on the Frostbite engine and supports dlss/fsr and seems more cpu heavy than most modern games.
I just finished building a new PC. Your assessment is still spot on today. I wound up getting the i3 13100F with the RX 6600.
@intro: I believe the Celeron and Pentium brands have been officially discontinued by Intel, no? Or was that only for mobile chips?
And thank you for still benchmarking GTA V, it is very useful for comparing stuff with older benchmarks of different products, and for comparing real gpus with integrated graphics.
They are not discontinued, they just wait to have enough malfunctioning CPUs so they could rebrand them as Celeron and Pentium :D
Imo the i3 and i5s are more interesting than the top-of-the-line chips because of their value. I got my 12400 for $160 at Micro Center, and it has been great for gaming.
Great cpu
Got my 12100F in July for AU$159 (£75) and not looked back at my old i7-3770.
That's a banger in value!
Awesome upgrade :)
@@gabbythegamer79 I know, great deal too
@@RandomGaminginHD cheers mate
Bro, thanks you from the bottom of my heart that you lowered your sensitivity. Now I can trully enjoy your videos.
You will get better with aim, just train, it's a learning curve.
Would like to see how it performs against the 12400F
Thanks for the video.
Any chance of comparision of 13100 to 11400 or 12400 to show what's more important for gaming - more IPC or two extra cores?
Also nice bonsai tree :)
What more IPC? The 13100 is a 12300 with 100mhz higher boost clock. Only the mid to high end skus for 13th gen are actually RKL, the rest are rebadged ADL (12th gen).
@@mikem.9197 Oh, I didn't know that. It sucks that there is no real improvement then.
I think the 13100 is suffering a bit from how close in price the 12400 is. I know i'd rather have the 6 cores even if 4 cores is still enough most of the time, especially with the possibility to multitask/use discord while gaming etc.
And they're the same architecture. The lower end 13 series are massaged and rebadged Alderlake CPUs.
Great review!!! Solid budget combo build!
Thank you :)
Love all your videos man. I would suggest testing battlefield 2042 as well, that game will test the CPU even more than alot of other games out there. Just a suggestion though. Other than that, wish you a happy new year buddy 🙂
I’ll add it back to the benchmarks :)
@@RandomGaminginHD don't forget rumbleverse :)
As an AMD fanboy, I am tempted to build a budget build based on this CPU
I just bought a 10100f and could not be happier, especially upgrading from a stock i5 750. With performance comparable and even exceeding intels highest end quad core i7s, it should last me at least 6 years.
Idk bout that but another 3 years proly
@@mukuroikusaba7347 maybe he doesn't play the newest games. I'm still on Pentium G4560 and it's enough for games I play at 1080p/60fps.
@@mukuroikusaba7347 most of the games I play are from 2018 or older, with few exceptions, that's why I said it should last me that long.
Can't wait for the time when Intel adding in i3 couple or more E-cores with saving a ~100 bucks price. It would be a massive banger in a budget gaming.
This was an excellent review.
I hope the next i3 will be better for gamers.
This is already a beast for gaming and isn't holding back a 3060ti lol... Anyways they should move beyond 4 cores I think.
I do think the RTX 3060 Ti is a quite nice paring with the i3 13100. Even a AMD 6700 XT would be good if you play at 1440P.
sure, just depends on the game tho 😊
the 12th gen i3 was a monster for £99, glad to see the 13th gen also be good too
Thanks for the review. If I can give you some advice, can you please make the fps comparisons with a graph instead? It'll be much easier to read and understand the performance difference. Looking forward for your next videos!
I'd be interested in seeing some old Intel Xeon benchmarks in 2023 (almost said 2022-), I picked up an E5-2670 v4 for a paltry 20 dollars and it got me 14 cores and 28 threads, which works wonders on multi threaded games and loads, despite being over 5 years old.
What mbd did you use? I noticed relevant mbd prices on Aliexpress have jumped quite a lot compared to back when I did some v1/v2 builds using such parts.
I don't believe E5-2670 v4 exists
i was really hoping to see the i3 finally get a bump to at least 6 cores this gen (maybe 4P + 2E). but oh well, still some solid performance for a budget quad core.
I will say this much, comparison charts show it beating the pants off my current i5-6600k. I am building a new gaming rig with an i5-13600K but my current system is getting a new mobo, an AIO water cooler, and the i3-13100 as it's going to become my photoshop/substance painter/iRay render server machine. Everything else still in this system can be used such as the DDR4 memory. No clue how much longer my current 7 year old system will last so may as well update it.
Given that you can get a Ryzen 4500 with 6 cores and 12 threads for $70 brand new (or 5500 for under $100) it seems like a hard sell to buy 13th gen Intel unless going with DDR5. And then it's unlikely you'd opt for a 13100. We just have a lot of really great performing budget options at the moment. - Might make a good video. All the CPUs you can get for $125 or less brand new vs eachother.
theres no i3's in stock rite now at my local Microcenter, everybody bought them out 😊
Note the Ryzen 4000s are only Zen2, with a significant cache and PCIe disadvantage aswell; hence, even with its smaller cache, the 5500 or entry i3s would be usefully quicker, and I say that as someone who has a 1600 AF, 2600X, 2700X, 3600 and 5600X. As MrSammy points out though, stock issues can muddy such decisions.
wow your review is up so fast. great job.
This is interesting. I had no idea this even came out. Everyone's currently talking about the 4070ti instead.
Thought I’d cover the more affordable stuff :)
oh my god I love that cooler, I bet it looks amazing in a build with one of the Intel GPUs
I miss the days when you were a more budget focused channel. While this is certainly a entry level CPU at around £120 it certainly isn't a budget one.
yeah he's not bothered to improve his videos at all sadly. No decent testing, price breakdowns and comparisons.
Glad to see coverage of these less expensive parts!
I've built an Asus B660M-A D4 with i3 13100 (with graphics, no discrete board), an m2 drive in a Q300l case with a seasonic supply. I had previously a i5 9th Gen (with SSD and 16gb RAM). The metrics gave a little extra for the i3 (I think the m2 drive helped). But what really made the difference in Windows 11 was the RAM, I started with 16gb RAM in the new computer but when I added 16 more, it's a totally different experience, like night and day.
8:26 I love your videos, but this is a lot of information put in different parts of my screen with motion in the background and I’m gonna be nauseous xD
Crazy to see how modern quad cores can deliver high refresh rate in AAA games - I’ve been running my second system with an i7 4770 and GTX 1060 and I’m impressed with the amount of punch quad cores still have.
Got a 12400F, I already got an aftermakert cooler, but that new cooler is so (no pun) cool
The 13100F is only $67.00 USD right now. Great for budget gaming rigs.
Great review. What a great little CPU.
Prices on Amazon for a 12400f currently is the same as 13100f. Get that 12400f for sure.
i run a i3 10th gen with 32gb ddr4 3600 ram and a overclocked asus 3060 and play all games great at 1440p and around 40 to 60fps on 4k (some deffo need dlss) but love the set up for now . will be upgrading this yr to an i9 11th gen and 3080
As much as I would love to buy one of these, I just can't with Intel's constant swapping of motherboards. Would I need to upgrade in the future? Maybe (I do mainly play old games), but who knows. AMD is just a lot more secure on upgrades typically. Since they try to stick with a motherboard socket for a while.
3:26 you can take your eye off it, Intel bumped the prices for the entire 12th gen with 10% 😢
I guess I got my build at the right time
Since the 13100 is still an Alderlake CPU, it IS a 12300 with +100mhz boost clock. No surprises here.
Would be nice to compare it to older 4 core 8 threads like the 7700K
The Core i3 12300 already beat an OC Core i7 8700K
@@dualpapayas I said 8700K not 7700K
@@dualpapayas should've asked for Core i3 11100F against 7700K because it was roughly equal 4c/8t
That's why I said Core i3 12300 already beat an OC 8700K which is insanely good despite different Cores/Threads count
Ever notice Scan is slightly cheaper than Overclockers, but Overclocker's give you free delivery while Scan never does?
The pairing with 3060 Ti actually sounds pretty reasonable for higher resolution gaming tbh.
I would have loved a comparison with R5 5600
I just want to point out, that the 13.gen i3 is just a 12.gen i3 with higher clockspeeds. It is not a Raptor-Lake part, it's alder lake.
If it's higher clock speed which based on Alder Lake, then why the Wattage slightly lower on 13100F ? That should be higher if it's actually based on Alder Lake
@@ClayWheeler I don't know mate, maybe they made improvements to the intel 7 node, or sth like that. But it is a alder lake part, I am not making that up, take a look in Intels own slides.
I wish I held off on upgrading my family's computer for a few months. I got them a 10100f a month or 2 before alder lake launched :).
Not all hope is lost though! You can still get i5s from 11th gen you just need to update your BIOS just incase.
5:24 lmfao that nade
😁
i still use 10100f i3 cpu and it rocks :)
I really wanna see the 13400f reviews
1:57 Excellent performance from that i3, but do you really need over 600fps? Given that you seem to die a lot (according to the footage anyway), I'd have to say no - whack the settings up and let's see what the i3 can really do when pushed :).
When you're testing CPUs, you want the bottleneck to be the CPU - not the GPU. The lower the settings, the higher the FPS and the more strain on the CPU as it has to keep up with the GPU. Also, in competitive games it's the 1% and 0.1% lows that matter.
Personally i feel like i would prob get a 5600 over this for the performance, but since idk if I would be able to upgrade to 14th gen with LGA1700 motherboard(considering how often intel changes their motherboard) so its hard to decide
No more cpus on that socket anymore. Meteor like is 99% on a new one
that processor should do just fine in 1440p. in 1080p its already pushed to its limit in games like cyberpunk
Hey. You have "25$ CrossFire Experience" video. Can you do a retro-budget build PC but with A-series AMD APU + R7 250 for example to see how dual gpu works in nowdays.
Yeah :)
That's a wicked bonsai right there
That is a solid cpu. Id like to see it compared to a ryzen 5-5600. I paid $129 for mine on sale 2 months ago. if the price is similar which budget build would you choose?
They're basically identical in most games... The Ryzen has a slight lead in games that can utilize more than 4 cores, though... And the i3 has a slight lead in games that can't...
been waiting for this
I'm really excited to see if/how these locked 13th gen chips do combined with the new b660 boards that support external clockgen overclocking. I suspect they have a LOT of headroom
are you talking about the Motherboard that overclocks the whole I/O?
@@Splarkszter BCLK overclocking
Came here for that comment
I read about how from the 13500 to the 13100f they re use alderlake architectures from what i saw of your number it does seems that way.
So are they just selling the same chip with a slight bump in cache and frequency?
Yes indeed.
i5 13500 probably is more the budget king, since you can get far more than double threads for just under double the money
4P+0E for 8 threads v 6P+8E for 20 threads
I heard that some versions of the 13400 will be Alder Lake and some will be Raptor Lake, and the only way to know is only after you purchase one.
Intel needs to release a special Intel Core i3 13300K
I briefly paired my previous 3090 with a 6700k and it handled AAA games surprisingly well.
A direct NEW GAMES (not CS, GTA, Apex, Battlefield and all these) benchmark comparison with a 10 year old i7-3770 (non K) would be splendid. 4C 8T 3.4-3.9Ghz
How bout 13100f + 4070 ti 🤔?
Also a personal question : is it worth it to buy 4070 ti with 13100f then upgrade the cpu in 3 to 6 months?
i5 13400f + RX 6700 XT sounds like a killer budget gaming combo.
Define budget
The 3060 is a last Gen 60 class card? That seems like a reasonable pairing for a brand new 100 class quad core?
If possible could you also try the 13500, it has 4 more e cores than the 13400
Waiting i5 13400f review very excited
can you do a comparison gaming video with i5 12400 side by side
I wonder how it compares to my 12400 paired with a rx 6800, good video!
Picked up one for $64.99😊 I can't wait to try it out
Intel left the 13200 and 13300 names empty. I wonder if they are/were planning to release more i3s with E-cores? I bet the 4 P cores would really appreciate to have those extra threads take over the background tasks.
Do you have i5 13400f for the tests?
is this is a decent upgrade from i7 6700? planning to buy either the 12100 or this 13100 or screw this and buy a 5600g?