2017 Subaru Forester XT: Oil Consumption Still a Problem?
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- Hey friends! Today we do the 2nd oil change on the Forester XT and talk about its 10k miles of ownership! Thanks for watching!!
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Great video. Does that valve ever leak? What brand is it? Thanks
I have a friend that has a 2014 Forester (2.5i) that uses a quart of oil every 500 miles. Subaru says its not their problem. This a bad problem for Subaru but they will not admit it. I have a Outback and it will be my last Subaru.
7 years owning my 2017 forester and now I’m seeing a huge oil consumption issue. 125k miles 😢
I have a 2014 Forester i bought it new. As of today i have a little over 120,000 miles on it. I have to add about a quart of oil every 3000 miles. I check it at 2000 miles add a little then at 3000 add the rest. I change oil at 5000 miles. First car i had to add oil in between changes. No big deal for me. However here is what i feel that Subaru should fix are the damn wheel bearings. I have replaced 4 of them. 3 of them on the same rear side and one on the other rear side. Three of them were under warranty as i had the extended up to 100,000 miles. Two of them was under the Subaru 3 years 36,000 mile. One of them under my extended warranty. The last one went out at 119,000 miles. I was at my summer home when that one went bad and not close to any dealer. I had to get an estimate from a local repair center which was $400.00 to fix it. Called Subaru Customer service and bitched about these wheel bearings. They were real nice and gave me 2 options. A 400.00 coupon to get it fixed at a Subaru Dealer or a 1000.00 coupon if i buy any new model Subaru. After all these years that was the only problem i had. I took the $1000.00 coupon as i will probably buy another Subaru when my car really dies on me. Not happy about those wheel bearings but i guess all other brands also have their problems. My dealership always took care of me and they always gave me free oil when i needed it in between oil changes.
Bought a 2014 in the summer of 2013. Changed the oil in the spring and again in the fall. Less than 6000 kms., between oil changes. Always synthetic. It's 2019 today and I have never added oil between oil changes. I don't get it with the oil issue. My 7 year warranty is done or 70000 km and now I can buy the Cobb access port finally. I'm so giddy! Don't tell my wife. Catless J pipe, 4 inch intercooler. Just for starters. Time to play! It's fast now but like all of us it should be faster!
2015 0 oil loss.. But i did have to replace my CVT for the newer HT one
Our 2017 Forrester 6 speed manual has been burning oil since new. They’ve replaced the short block at 23000 miles and it needs another now at 33000 miles (they tell me). Airbag issues the dealer says they “can’t find” window won’t roll up on occasion and the dealership also says they “can’t find a problem”. Worst car we’ve ever owned.
I really love this channel. Keep it up
That means a lot man, thanks for the support!
CVT - what's the problem? If I wanted to slam gears from light to light I would have bought an STI or some other road rocket. For what I need in a car, the CVT works fine.
i don't know subaru filter is better than Ultra Fram. Heard subaru filter is from Fram but don't know what grade they are using. Some 5w30 is not meeting ILSAC-GF5. Slight viscosity difference and others tune to European fuel.
My 2016 Forester XT is awesome! Cobb stage one, Nameless exhaust, Mishimoto intake. Broke it in good, hard. No oil consumption, ZERO! After 4000 miles, 5.2 quarts synthetic in, 5.2 quarts out. AMAZING! Driven hard, fast, and it loves it. Subaru fan for life.
Hi, I am writing from Singapore, I own a Subaru Forester SH5 model ( None Turbo) year 2009 done 140,000 KM) -87,500miles no oil consumption issues, NO OIL LEAK , Handling was Excellent as As i often drove across to Malaysia traveling North -South Express way using SAE 10W 30 Full systematic any brand oil used changed my oil & filter every 10K kilometer local temperature 35 to 37 degree C ? and last and not least- it will be 10 years this July 19.
Wow the drain valve is so simple and so genius. Definitely worth the buck
Agreed, its been great so far!
Hi.Chuck (Charles?) - here in Australia I’ve owned 10 Subarus over 40 years (Leone, Liberty, WRX, Outback and Forester) my 1997 Forester got to $425k before the camshaft seized - never had oil/coolant level or head gasket issues and all these vehicles had high kms - only updated due to lifestyle changes - I stopped at 2013 models because of the CVT issues around 60k-100k for the 2013-2017 Forester/XV/Impreza models - I believe the CVT has been Improved for the 2019 onwards? It’s five years since your video and was wondering how the XT is now? John in SA
This is what I tell people, If you mainly drive on a flat surface such as normal city driving or on a straight highway road then most likely the car won't have oil issues. Go ahead and push the accelerator when going on up hill trips and you will see what the issue is. My 2015 Forester did burn one full quart oil during a 166 mile trip and I had to travel thru steep hills at 70 to 75 mph freeway and one full quart of motor oil was gone just like that when I arrived at my destination. I added one quart of oil and then it was fine. A week later I had to go back to the same exact place and when I got there another quart of oil disappeared just like that. That is NOT good at all specially if you hardly ever tend to check your Subaru and worse, Subaru doesn't care if your car goes bad because they don't believe in making the "maintenance" light go on for you to protect your vehicle. They say it is YOUR responsibility to check and take care of the car. What a great company.
I honestly don't know if every single Subaru engine has this problem, maybe is just a random problem, but what I do know is that the dealer where I purchase mine they have done a lot of engine replacements for Subaru engine issues and I personally spoke with the lead technician regarding my car burning oil issue. That alone says a lot. Has Subaru resolved this issue? I seriously doubt it because they keep using the same four cylinder boxter engine. They ain't using no new engine nor a redesigned one.
Awesome video. Just purchased a pre-owned 2017 XT Touring! Your videos were helpful in confirming my purchase and I will definitely refer back to them for maintenance!
glad watching your channel grow. it's great being a part of something from the beginning. great stuff man, keep up the good work.
Thanks dude!
really like the channel, you seem like a really awesome dude my man. appreciate the time you take to make these vids :)
Thanks man! I'm happy you guys are enjoying them!
T-WRX for sure dude, you're one of the few subaru enthusiast channels doin' it right, keep it up ^_^
Kyle Morgese l
Another great Forester video, just turned over 2000 miles, it performs excellent in the mountains!
Thanks Robert!
Thanks for this review and the last one on your 2017 Forester. We just bought a 2017 Forester 2.5 Premium! I will look forward to your next review.
No problem man, thanks for checking out the videos!
Fumoto is flush and it’s ok however if you accidentally run over a coyote or something similar size! It could get caught up and it will either smell bad/smoke or break it! I don’t think it’s worth the risk. I ran over a coyote while on freeway after the car in front of me hit it first and it just went under middle of my FXT. My cars electronics froze for a min I kid you not. I don’t recommend it
I had a 2016 Forester XT Premium, did oil changes every 6,000 miles, and it never burned a drop of oil. Traded it in after 26,000 miles for a WRX STI, which burns very minimal oil between changes, again every 6,000 miles.
Ive got an Impreza and it hasn’t used a drop of oil in a year. Only done 5000 miles in it since then but I do get the revs up high fairly regularly. Impressive engineering.
Nice video, T-WRX! As a new Subaru owner (2019 Forester 2.5i base), I did read about the oil and head gasket issues, which is why I went with a newer model...hoping that Subaru resolved them. Looks like yours is doing good, and thanks again for this positive video!
Jump to 5:47 if all you want is to hear me talk about a few questions I always get. 1 of which being oil consumption. Thanks for watching! BTW these are my experiences with the new Forester XT, I can't say how the 2.5's are holding up!
We have a 2017 2.5 CVT Touring. So far, excellent with no issues whatsoever!
I have a '16 2.5 premium with 30,000 miles and no oil consumption at all.
I change oil every 6000 kms I have the 2.0 in south america
I've heard many reports of the 2.5i with manual trans., burning oil. What transmission do you have and how's it going for you now?
T-WRX i hear some people loose oil on this car I think the some problem people the way drive it when first bought it new they did not break in by the manual book.
Sweet man, glad to hear the car is holding up well
Yeah man so far so good!
This is why I drive since new a 2009 Mazda 3 s hatchback 2.3 with 5 speed auto and 195,000 miles. I have been dumping money lately for suspension parts at all four corners and a trans module. A trans module is not a rebuild. At the end of the last 5000 mile oil change interval I got back from a 2000 mile Marathon trip in 50 hours. Car ran like a champ. Did not burn or leak a drop of synthetic oil.
Nice video! You do a great job with your videos. Well planned, great editing and excellent information. I'm driving my first Subaru, a 2017 Forester 2.5i Touring. So far I love it. About 7500 miles, one oil change, 29.1 MPG average and NO oil consumption. Keep on keeping on with your excellent videos!
Thanks for the kind words! I really appreciate you checking out the videos!
I have mine XT, I am so happy wit it. There is no oil consumption. Also there is no turbo lag with the CVT.
Awesome man!
5000 miles on my 17 xt and I haven't had any issues with oil consumption hopefully it stays that way 👍👌 love the channel dude keep em comming.
Nice man, thanks for the support!
Hello, How much engine oil do you charge? Is it about 4.73L ?
5.5 Quarts so about 5.205 liters
The under coat by subaru is to help prevent rust and from salt damage during winter.
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My Wife & I bought a 2018 forester 2.5 Prem & I just discovered your channel thanks for your videos cool tips I'm going to keep up w/your channel 👍👏
Another great video dude! Keep it up!
Thanks my friend!
Mine kinda hiccups in (I) mode I’m not sure if that’s the turbo or if it’s supposed to do that
I have a 2016 xt with 13k miles and no issues at all. I always monitor the oil level to keep safe. No mods at all on it and I'm still happy with it.
Nice! Sounds a lot like mine, good so far!
you know I think the oil consumption thing is weird. every wrx I have owned had sucked up oil like crazy. ej20 ej25 but now my fa20 is fine. I think people just don't pay attention to their oil till it's too late. esp when the dealership tells you 6k+ miles between oil changes(that's what mine says anyways). oddly enough my 15FXT and WRX doesn't consume oil at all. great channel. subscribed!!
The Ford EcoBoost has the same problem, because of block ventilation. As the oil circulates and blows out the PVC valve it shoots oil directly into your intake and can cause oil loss. this can be fixed with an oil separator catch can that separates the air from the oil that goes back into your intake and returns the oil back to your crankcase.
Interesting to know, thanks man!
Another informative video. Great stuff. Keep up the good work!
Thank you sir!
I've got a 2013 SJ XT. still doesn't burn any oil after 96k/km. CVT works very well. I'm happy with it. great car, love it
fumoto valve is awesome. put mine in after first oil I did when I got the car. good thing to as it saves your knuckles from the nice sharp around the plug
Agree, love the Fumoto!
love your channel name!
Haha thanks man!
Chuck e Cheese?!?!?!?!?!?! Any updates on the Foz?
I have Forester 2013 ..It is very wonderful
I have a 2015 Forester. It consumes about 1 quart between oil changes. I am at 55,000 miles. Didn’t start consuming till about 20,000 miles. I did a proper breakin and I always wait for the engine to warm and idle down before I load the engine.
Love the channel, great videos! Can you make a tour of the Forester? the features, inside? And other things in it, like a review! thanks!
Sure man, I'll add it to the list!
Subaru's oil is Idemitsu. It's on Amazon and it isn't priced bad at all! Just FYI if you want to buy the Subaru oil but don't want to pay for the Subaru wrap on the jug. ;)
Had a brand new GTI about 20 years ago. On the first trip for an oil change, the BMW mechanic torqued the threads right out of the block. Cost me $300 to get fixed and always dripped afterwards. The car after that was a Civic. I put the valve in the day I bought the car and have been changing the oil MYSELF for the past 20 years!
These are the stories that keep me at home in my garage!
2017 foresters come with a plastic door over the drain plugs. Only on non turbo if I'm not mistaken. It is just push clips to remove it. Working for subaru and my wife having a 2016 wrx. I find the FA20 takes around 5.5 quarts to have it at full. The recommended 5.4 never seems to be enough.
I put in 5.5 actually!
T-WRX good man! Awesome to hear when people give that kind of attention to their car. As a fellow turbo Subaru you got mad respect from me bro.
liked this episode. i wonder where you got the oil valve. i have a subaru xv fb20 engine. i do the oil change myself but dont have a lifter. the oil valve should come in handy. thanks andmore power
THanks for watching!
Thanks for the video. I have a 2014 XT with over 50K miles and it's never used a drop of oil.
Nice! Good news!
I'm looking to buy a 2015 xt and I'm worry about that consume is yours still ok?
Why am I doing mine every 3000 miles? Ive only got a 2014, but i read somewhere that 3k with the turbo is really important. Am i the only fool keeping mobil 1 in business? Luckily its cake. I have a fumoto valve and i can get under the car in the garage without ramps so its 5 min job.
Anyone else hear 3k or am i dreaming? Ive got 160k so its like once a month for me
The short nipple fumoto valve is a better choice in my opinion because it doesn't hang as low. I owned a 2019 WRX with this engine for 40,000 miles, changing it every 5000 miles with Motul X-Clean 5w30, and it never burned any oil. I don't think it was ever an issue on this particular engine. It was mostly on their naturally aspirated engines that take 0w20.
Sorry if you’ve already published this, but any update on how the turbo engine has held up long term? I am looking at used 2017 XT Tourings and want to ensure I can get it to 200k if I take care of it
I actually have a 2018 Subaru Forester XT, only 15,000 miles, however if you are looking for true longevity buy a Honda or Toyota SUV, the Subaru is very pleasant to drive, but between the direct injection carbon built up and the CVT Transmission it is a real crap shoot that u are going to make it to 200k before needing to walnut blast, possibly a new engine,. and the CVT will most likely go out first before the 200k mark, however I do like how it accelerates and handles, it is a good SUV, but personally if i had to do it over again I would take a good look at the Honda or Toyota SUVS and only the Honda or Acura V6 SUVS. Good Luck.
Subaru took No responsability for head gasket fiasco and now this. I think Ill go with Toyota!
Sorry to hear that didn't help you out
My 2014 XT on 50k miles is smooth and I can't see any oil usage. Quality full synthetic oil is a must for any turbo Scooby 😎
after 90 000 my 2014 FXT needed a full valve job
Well my 2017 2.5 non turbo does in fact have covers underneath and they have to be removed to access the oil drain plug. You are welcome to drive over here and look at it yourself.
Jerry Faircloth xts only I guess!
Nice video. I like where the oil filter is located. I have an 09 Forester with the non-turbo 2.5 with 92k miles and no oil consumption, but when I change the filter it's a mess underneath. I'm thinking of getting an Outback in about one year.
Agreed, the new filter location is amazing!
They fixed the oil burn issue for 2015 models and beyond. my dad was wondered about the Same thing. so he got the 15 model and hasn't burn any oil at all.
Good to know!
Which engine 2.5 CVT, or 2.0 Turbo CVT?
I have a 2015 Legacy 2.5 i premiun and it currently has 71 k miles, bought it brand new and i have had the low oil light come on twice in 4 years that i had it, i added a quart of oil and it took care of the low oil light
THANKS FOR THE INFO, enjoyed the vid
No worries, thanks for watching!
My 2012 Subaru Impreza never burnt oil like the other cars around that year, but it did blow up the engine at 45,000 miles.
How?
Last time I head they changed the internal workings of the motor and fixed the oil problem
so, you void your new car warranty by servicing yourself? very genious!
Lol no, you can't void a warranty by servicing a car yourself.
2014 - 2016 Forester had oil burning issue -- class action lawsuit , also class action lawsuit against the CVT transmission. Glad you're not dealing with the oil burning. (Had major oil burning issue and Subaru would not fix it, CVT was going bad but they wouldn't fix that either, and head gasket leaking) All of this below 80k miles, and I changed the oil less than 5k miles and took care of that car. In my experience Subarus are not reliable and the problems I experienced are pretty normal with them. I'll never have one again. Hope you have a different experience with yours.
Earlier cars have it as well. I own a 2013 Legacy that also burns oil, but it is the only issue with the car after 85,000 miles. No repairs needed (and Subaru said the engine burning I have is normal as it is minor).
15k subs before 15k miles? LET'S GO
Awww hells yeah
Pennzoil is the worst shit to put your car in gums up your valves. Why didn't you just use mobil one? I put that in my 2.5i non turbo 2014 Forester if I don't go to the dealer. 0W-20 Mobil One for my car.
Mobile one has been notoriously bad in subaru turbo motors from what I've read. Just my preference.
Revo2Evo Mobil 1 has caused issues in Subaru's for decades.
It shears and burns in turbos, non-turbos, in every weight and style they offer.
I tried it in my EJ222, it burned at the rate of 1qt per 350 miles. Switching to Rotella lessened it to 1qt per 600 miles. Mobil 1 sheared and caused scoring on the cylinders.
FCFordLord bullshit.
For a daily gas saver I really enjoyed the 2013 Legacy, the CVT was not bad. I can only imagine the newer models have a better behaving CVT...Subaru should keep it out of the "sporty" packages though :\.
yes that drain plug design scary
I have a normally aspirated '16 with 20k on it. The CVT is very nice, though sometimes while entering a freeway, I wish there was more. The care is scary amazing in the snow.
More information on oil consumption issues. Note that we did not see this issue for the first 3 years when i checked between oil changes.
www.cars.com/articles/2011-15-subaru-oil-consumption-update-1420683845519/
I was curious on the oil for the newer Subaru motors. Considering buying a forester shorty. But yea, that pennzoil is great. My 2az burned oil with Mobil 1 and castrol. Put the same stuff in you did (5w-20) and it dramatically slowed down.
Awesome!
so are you saying that the brand of oil you put in the car can make a difference on if it burns or consumes oil ?
Great Vid!
Thanks man!
np
zero issues with my 16 WRX with 16,000 miles, but a family member had a blown gasket from the oil consumption issue in a 2014 Cross Trk with less than 50,000 miles
Dang, FA motor for the win I guess.
I really like the cvt for fuel economy and sport for when getting down to business the fact it stays at that rpm give me hope I can make good fuel economy on a turbo then that of a non turbo the fact you can get v6 power from a cylinder and Have an ok power to weight with some good fuel economy specially one of the best awd systems is all good in my book and full synthetic is awesome giving better protection for the turbo
If I may recommend I use it for my mercury Milan v6 and that is marvel mystery oil it's awesome cleans your fuel lines unclogs injectors and gives proper lubrication to the fuel which in reality your car needs and today's fuel doesn't have that anymore since it has ethanol which I believe they use in the fuel to remove to help keep the moisture out
Ok Group, What oil consumption do you think would make you happy?
ie 500, 1000 ,2000 ,5000 ,10000, 20000, 50000 miles per quart?
Do think a car that uses oil at 10,000 miles per quart is better than one that uses oil at 2000 mile per quart?
i thought it was only the 2.5 engines that had oil consumption issues. My 14 xt didn't but it did smell like oil.
Yeah maybe it was, but I get that question constantly.
Nice garage everything organized for automotive service 👨🏻🔧👍
Awesome channel man, just subscribed. I'm curious about your tire rotation. Around 7:30ish I noticed your front left tire looks more worn on the inside than the front right tire. Is that a camera angle thing or do you think that tire has just been worn more? Is it perhaps due to that wheel being the drive wheel for the front axle or more so due to yalls driving habits? Thanks again for the indepth look at this vehicle man, it's awesome!
I checked it out, I think it just came out weird on camera. I try to rotate every 6k miles or so!
I have a 2017 Forester premium 2.5L with 21k on the clock and zero oil consumption. Not a drop of oil consumed at all. Last oil change was 3k ago and just checked it today, all good.
How many miles now? Any issues now?
Subaru in general has had an oil consumption issue for along time, and yet CR always puts Subaru at the top in reliability. I've had a 2013 Subaru and a 2006 Toyota with the same issue and the dealer and manufacturers never acknowledge there was a problem. to me that's a big problem. Go to CR #73 cars that burn too much oil!
Well - that is very strange isn't it. I'm looking at the latest Consumer Reports magazine (April 2018) & it ranks the Forester as their pick for the 'compact SUV' category within a Top 10 list. (Page 22). They also list the Forester and Outback as great picks for seniors (Page 34). There's no mention at all about the oil consumption issue, yet many people are still citing problems online about the latest Forester models.
Are all the problems, those Foresters, Imprezas, Outbacks etc. with manual transmissions, or are CVT also affected?
Consumer Reports does have a 2015 article that cites excessive oil consumption is NOT normal. Yet, Subaru in addition to Audi - state that a certain amount is normal. That normal amount of oil burning can cost a pretty penny between oil changes especially when synthetic oil is required. We're not talking about a quart here or there and a few bucks, we're talking complete small-block engine replacements under warranty - multiple times. What happens to your car when you're out of warranty? Good luck.
This is how Consumer Reports seems confusing to me - contradictory in fact to even remotely recommend these vehicles. It really makes me question their recommendations at all.
I have a 2013 Outback with the 4 cylinder engine and have never had any oil or other engine or transmission issues.
Oil consumption is directly related to break in..... Subaru says to not rev the motor past 5,000 RPM for the first 1,000 miles. Also vary the RPM during that process. I have followed this procedure with three Subaru’s. I have yet to have a oil consumption problem with any of the three.(14Crosstrek, 16Forrester 2.5, 17WRX Base). The people that have had the most problems are the ones that have not followed proper break in....
I have a 2011 legacy 3.6r and have never had an oil consumption issue. Had a timing cover leak which was rather expensive but never had any other mechanical issue
Miss July It has been my experience that with proper break in( not over 5000 rpm sustained, for the first 1,000 miles and no wide open throttle when cold)your chances of oil consumption will be less. Just note...... ALL engines consume some oil during break in and even after. It’s not uncommon to consume maybe 1/4 of a quart between changes....
Do you fill oil to the top dot? My local dealer has been filling oil pass the upper dot by about 0.5 qt. I find it strange.
Yeah I always fill to the top dot.
haven't ran Into oil consumption for the xt more of cam sprocket issues, but you'll know if the cel comes on. couldn't wait for the 18 so I picked up the wrb sti. to add the non Turbo forester have covers blocking the drain plug.
Yikes, hopefully I don't encounter the cam sprocket issues. I figured the 2.5 may have the old style undercarraige cover. Like the STi.
Just did the oil in my 05 Legacy GT. Fighting with the filter made me long for an FA motor with the top mount filter.
Yeah I've got an STi as well. Hate the oil changes!
Oh right, forgot the STI has an EJ!
The oil consumption issue was the main reason I didn't buy a 2014 Forester...I was hoping this issue was resolved in later models of the Forester.
Is it resolved now ?
Would definitely hope for no oil consumption at only 10k miles! I'm at 164k+ miles on my 2007 Legacy, losing about a quart every 2500 miles or so. Coolant looks ok right now. Head gasket job was done with the timing belt at 90k miles. No transmission issues - that's the deal breaker for me with new Subarus. Just don't trust a CVT to last that long.
good, dont ignore the acea a5 spec👍
Just had my 2016 Forester MT in at the dealer for oil consumption. It was burning 1 qt every 1k miles. Subaru covered it under the powertrain warranty and replaced the entire shortblock. Yes, it's still a problem.
I've been using Pennzoil Platinum 5w-30 in my 10 Legacy 3.6R for several years now, never had any issue with it. My local dealer parts manager mentioned that bottled oil sold by Subaru Canada are essentially OEM packaged Mobile 1.
Yeah Subaru Oil in the US is actually made by Idemitsu. Thanks for the input on Penn Platinum!
T-WRX alot of ppl say the Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 5w30 is the best for the fa20. i've been using it just bc of what I read in a total of like 5 mins of research haha! its probably not necessary
"ultra" platinum huh? I wonder what the difference is in the ultra?
in my country ( in Curacao ) we use Pennzoil for Subaru and I use it to in my Altezza
Not using your two year complimentary services? They'll check for recalls, etc. too. And make sure you document or else Subaru may void your warranty as they need to track consistent maintenance per proof should something go wrong.
STIzilla he has these videos as proof of maintenance.
I actually didn't get 2 years of maintenance when I purchased. But honestly its more about the time saving than the money. It takes like 2+ hours when you count drive time and such to go get an oil change at the dealer. I can do it in like 30 mins at home, its worth the effort to me! But I document everything anyway, receipts, mileages etc.
STIzilla Subaru only offers the complimentary maintenance in certain markets, I believe the ones that aren't typically their strong hold.
Based on my research the oil consumption is only for the non-turbo '11-'15 foresters. You're safe with the XT from what I've seen. This issue is keeping me from buying a non-turbo forester right now...
Buy the turbo!
I would if there were any used ones in my area haha. I check the CPO site every day
Nice video! An update? Issues?
Thanks!!
Still no issues! Forester is running great!
Unfortunately I am seeing Oil Consumption issues on the Impreza 2013 (Canada) now that we are approach our 5th year. The last two oil changes (at 7500 km each) we lost 1 litre of oil each change (down to first notch on the dip stick. Typically all city driving and oil change is done at the 6 month mark. Subaru recommends 6 months or 10,000 km (which ever comes first). Subaru also claims that it is ok to lose 1 litre of oil for 2000 km. So we are off to our first oil consumption test.
Nice review, you do a great job. My parents and I have owned a total of five Subarus. Two Forresters (2004) my parents bought, two Outbacks (2014, 2015) my parents bought, and a 2013 Legacy I bought. Of the two Forresters, only one started burning oil (it was the 2.0 L turbo unit) at 140,000 miles. That is not great but not horrible. I have been the unlucky one with the 3.6L H6. It burns 1.5 quarts every 2.000 miles - which is not enough. It started burning at 47,000 miles. I change the oil every 5000 like you. Subaru claims that now i should put in 6.9 quarts (not 6 quarts recommended) and burn through the extra oil until the next oil change. I burn 1.9 quarts and check the oil level religiously as I know I will have to refill it once before 5000 miles. Subaru says it is good for the environment - my car is definitely not as I put out a ton of burnt oil constantly. I barely passed emissions last time. If it fails next time, I will have a stronger case for an engine replacement.
Good video. But I want to ask some questions. Was the car driven before the oil change to warm the oil? Was the oil filler cap opened before you release the old oil on the bottom of the engine? Why do you nt remove the old oil filter during the drain of the old oil? By the way your garage looks tidy.
Yes it was warm, I did pull the cap to release any vacuum. I was less thorough in this video because I did a video on the oil change process a few months back. I didn't remove the filter while draining the oil because the car was on the lift and I couldn't reach it if I'm honest! Thanks for watching!
Whats the name of that valve for draining oil, where to buy one? Thx
Fumoto, they are available on Amazon! amzn.to/2f6KWwy
Very nice video. Now I want a lift too. My 2011 Forester (non-turbo FB25) just went out of warranty and I was wondering if I should keep using 0W-20 oil (I use Mobil1 full syn.) I have seen some chatter around the web that the thinner oil is only recommended to improve Subaru's fleet mileage standard. Is there another weight oil that would better extend my engine life? Using very little oil now at 100,000+ miles even with the dreaded FB25.
I have over 190,000 kms (118,000 miles) on my 14 Forester XT. The comments saying this engine doesn't burn oil are simply false. For the first 15,000 kms this engine used a lot of oil but afterward became tolerable in warm months. However, in very cold temperatures oil consumption gets worse until when the ambient temperature falls below -30C this car is basically useless as it will burn 1 liter in 300 kms. When the temperatures improve the oil consumption mysteriously disappears. Subaru dealer seems unable to even have a suggestion what the issue is. Also had a cat failure around 130,000 kms which the dealer did not want to cover with warranty, probably related to oil issue. I wish I had not bought this car. Engine is now running extremely poorly especially at idle. I am thinking this is probably a valve issue due to oil consumption and the direct injection not cleaning the valves. My last Subaru. :(
Use AMSOIL!!! The best oil you can buy. My wife's Legacy only gave me 22mpg until I used AMSOIL and now it's giving her 25mpg.
Hello,I just bought a subaru forester 2017 in 2020,,and you give update on your 2017 anything i should know,,thankyou