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Fun fact, Bolhrad is where most of the Bulgarian minority in Ukraine lives, hence the name, Bol = Bulgarian, hrad or grad = city. The 88th Separate Marine Battalion is mostly manned by Bessarabian Bulgarians.
@@dillanspec4 bloody cia and their *checks notes* reforms to reduce corruption and increase professionalism in armed and police forces in foreign countries
@@ethanhatcher5533 so im a russian bot for pointing out that the CIA love to run around overthrowing governments and creating wars for money and have been doing so for 80 years.. makes sense lol read a book
@@nobodyherepal3292"Home" is not a simple concept when states are being broken up. For example, an Uzbek tanker in East Germany has 1 year of service left. His unit is reassigned to a base in Ukraine. Is he a Ukrainian citizen and soldier now, even though he has no other ties to Ukraine? Does he have the right to leave and return to Uzbekistan, or another CIS state? Does he have to complete another year of service in Uzbekistan?
@@hailexiao2770 alot of people remained where they were until they got persecuted for being "Russian". The minorities that mostly moved were Russians moving to the republics or the republics moving to Russia. Most places that Russians moved they got persecuted after
@@hailexiao2770I guess he would be Ukrainian no Uzbek or Khazakh, he could be Russian in which case he would tell upper rank to make paperwork for transfer
@@hailexiao2770He would be an uzbek citizen, as every soviet citizen was registered at a certain address. If his address was registered in Uzbekistan, then he just becomes an Uzbekistani citizen. I am not 100% sure about his service, but I would assume he would provably finish his service in Ukraine and then be sent home to Uzbekistan. Keep in mind however that some professional soldiers (as opposed to conscripts) could just move and be registered to a different state to serve and stay there. That's why some Ukrainian officers are, ironically, russians who moved to Ukraine in Soviet times and decided to stay there.
@@mill2712 typically its the boring stuff, not enough trucks, not enough stuff or the packaging sucks. For Example the Russians pack the missiles for their Grad rocket launchers in individual wooden boxes that are nailed shut, in order to reload a grad with its 40 or so 122mm tubes you must unbox all 40 missiles using a crowbar and typically a large hammer or axe making it take at best about a minute to open each box. now the Russians get around this issue by taking the missiles out of their boxes and stacking them on the ground from a staging area but the problem is that then you have a bunch of exposed rockets with armed warheads stacked up in a treeline somewhere and should any fragmentation from returning artillery fire hit the stack all the rockets have a habit of cooking off in sequence but the crates typically offer some protection against chain detonation of the rocket motors and reduce the likelihood of losing a whole stockpile in one go. so just off the example of the Grad that listed reload speed of 10 minutes is only if all missiles are pre prepared before loading starts and if they are boxed up it will take in excess of one hour to reload the whole system, things like Himars and M270 even their earliest and oldest versions have a built in crane and the missiles are carried in their firing tubes which are square for the purpose of loading into logistics trucks and allowing the whole system to load in a few minutes and the ammo can travel and reposition with the launchers. TL:DR Logistics is painfully boring and filled with numerous examples of everyone being bad at it.
I’m sorry to say as a huge Battle Order fan but this was a VERY dry topic. It might have made a good paper but I figured we’d be examing force structure not the constant re-naming of brigades to the point of obscurity. Feel like I didn’t learn a lot about Air Mobile Units in Ukraine but rather trivia if I ever walk into a bar that has a “re-tabbing of post Soviet training divisions of airborne units based in Ukraine in 1993”. Not trying to be too critical but I think middle 50% of this video could have been much better served by discussing how force structure at the company and platoon level evolved and how the actual purpose of the units changed. That’s the meat and potatoes we love. That said incredible research per usual and it’s a great history video but I think there’s so much more cool stuff to explore!!
The most astonishing thing to me about the development of the Soviet airborne in the post Soviet era is that the VDV and thereby the Russian VDV base much of their mythos on an operation where based on a hastily identified weakness, a landing was made on the western bank of the Dnipro that wound up being directly into the teeth of two unanticipated armoured brigade groups, who wiped them out. Then they did exactly the same thing at Hostomel, with the same result. This is even stranger because the Germans didn't officially have independent armoured brigade groups in 1943.
@@BattleOrder Absolutely! Just the sheer specificity of the repetition is absolutely wild in this case. Para drops are really the ideal way to have a glorious last stand even if you're winning though.
I always wondered why an air assault brigade ended up with the Challengers and Marders. It makes sense that the elite units would get the heavy armor. Do you think other air assault units will get Bradleys when more show up? 21:15
You have to consider the Soviet VDV tradition more like the USMC than Western paratroopers, in that they’ve expanded past their strict specialities and function more like a second army with an esprit de corps thinking they’re superior to regular infantry (I’m not disregarding that marines are more universally useful than paratroopers, but amphibious warfare was a niche inside the USMC, not their bread and butter). Besides that, the Soviet VDV was uniquely heavily armoured and not primarily light infantry as paratroopers usually are. The Soviet and Russian VDV have also frequently swapped their lighter airmobile armoured vehicles for regular BMPs, BTRs, and tanks once they got stuck in the fighting like in Afghanistan and Chechnya. The unique thing about the Ukrainian DShV in this regard is that they accepted this on an organisational level and largely embraced their role as glorified mechanised infantry, only keeping a few airmobile battalions, instead of sticking with wide scale use of BMDs etc. like the Russians. The steppe that covers much of eastern Ukraine is also just so well suited for armoured warfare, so you see comparatively heavy mechanisation in most of their units. Even multiple Ukrainian units that are labelled as SOF are essentially equipped like regular mechanised infantry.
Ukraine made all of there air assault forces except for like i battalion mechanized. Only 1 group still has the ability to actually conduct air assaults
For the Challengers the answer is: they only got 14 and most Mechanized Brigades have a tank battalion (30-ish tanks), while air assault Brigades only have a tank company. So the alternative was to have the Tank Battalion in a Mech Brigade with 14 Challengers and 15-20 tanks of another model, which doesn't make much sense.
It's a bit obscure fact but the Soviet VDV also used the maroon coloured berets in the 60s (it was an initial concept), but it later was changed to the blue one.
Christianity having patron saints for everything imaginable is really fascinating - although I feel like this kind of official link with respective militaries seems to exist primarily among Orthodox countries?
At least for St Michael he's the patron saint of paratroopers in the west too. French paratroopers and the American 82nd do St Michaels Day jumps for example. Don't know about other saints though
@@BattleOrder wish i could find a list of saints with their corresponding military units and stuff, the only i know are saint javlein saint himars etc.
Not at all. There are official links with saints and church traditions in the British, French and Italian armies, and all over South America. The United States has less official ones that are observed nonetheless by troops such as the Order of Saint George for Armor and Cavalrymen and the Order of Saint Maurice for the US infantry being honors troops can receive for meritorious service.
I know I already said this, but please do the Australian defence force (mainly army). I feel like they’re pretty unique and quite modernised for a small army.
Excellent Video. I cannot beging to grasp how much research and illustration work must have gone into this video. Also moving a holiday from Summer into Winter must have been popular :) In Germany we had the same with reunification day in October replacing the old national holiday commemoration the East German Uprising in 1953 in June :)
Great video! I live not far from Bolhrad, and my dad worked with soldiers from there during the Soviet coup in 1991. He was a militsioner (policeman), and they were patrolling the Soviet-Romanian border.
Yes, 300k on paper, but in reality only small amount of combat capable troops including some experienced in Iraq and Afghanistan. First month of 2014 war was carried by volunteer bataillions with three weeks of training and no equipment.
I'm a Boer from South Africa. I have 2 very good friends of whom one is fighting for Ukraine and the other for Russia (on different fronts, thankfully). They still communicate via family and are still friends, mostly trying to convince the other to change sides. I pray that a peace deal will come soon. God bless you guys.
Same shit. Some of my friends are fighting for Russia and others for Ukraine. The worst part is that they may have shot at each other as pro Russian friends served in vdv and spetsnaz that was sent tp storm kiev and gostomel, while Ukrainian friends served in police spetsnaz and artillery units that first repelled vdv forces from gostomel and then destroyed storming units from Kostroma regiment. The majority of them are dead now. At the moment I have one fighting for Ukraine, recovering in hospital, the other 2 fighting for Russia and one stationed in the Syrian group of forces. Pretty much sure that none of us would think we would kill each other when we trained together at a boxing club as teenagers.
would be interesting if you took a look into Baltic militaries. They literally had to create everything from scratch as Soviets left with everything (including all units) after independence.
@@nobodyherepal3292 can't do air assaults on vehicles that aren't designed for it, they may have a couple of air mobile battalions but the force as a whole isn't air mobile
@@maximilianodelrio right, that’s what I mean. They have some of their units able to do small air assaults if needed (like, in river crossings or redeployment)
@@Cynthia_Blackraven_666 kind of, except they're mostly unable to do air assaults, while for example the US's airborne or other countries with smaller forces actually can, and are lighter
Half a year ago all the "old brigades" were awarded honorary titles depending on the historical-ethnographic region they were based in: 80 - Galicia 95 - Polesia 81 - Slobozanshchyna 25 - Sicheslav (old for Dnipro city) 79 - Tavria That's much better than some red star shit.
I genuinly have to applaud this video, but also want to ask what you think of the state of each respective force in terms of force quality, logistics, etc? I know its probably a vain dream that ya will, but hey, its a hope.
I'm not really in a position to thoroughly observe the units and how they perform so I don't think I can have an opinion on how good they are until someone writes a comprehensive history post-war (or at least a few years down the road). We barely know what part of the country they're in at a given time. In general I avoid discussions about force quality. If I do mention a criticism in a video it's usually to do with obvious flaws in a force structure rather than, say, training quality or the quality of leadership which to me is a more complicated issue
@@BattleOrder Totally understand. It's just a rare thing we're seeing, and my thoughts are to how both forces manage to supply and adapt to a 1200 km plus front while keeping to their respective doctrines, and how said doctrines have adapted at this stage of the war. Apologies for the bother of the initial comment, you rock 🤜.
Some of these post 2014 unit emblems look super medieval, very based. Shame I the only desantnik I've known isn't with us anymore, maybe I'd manage to procure a patch for my collection 😢
Actualy T-80BV companies of 79 and 80 air-assault brigades was put into reserve after short time, so only 95 and 25 brigades had t-80bv as for russian invasion
Hello-I am kind of surprised that the 78th Regiment "Herts" get so few Credit, while being even trained in its early days against the will of the DShV command. I am myself a foreign Volunteer from Germany and was quite happy about the Video, but this put a slight dent in it
So gratefull for your video. As ukranian, very lovely to see your attention on such details. And tes, graphic stilization like in WARNO is just cool xd Thanks man.
there is information on the Internet that the 46th brigade was founded in 2016, but this is not true. then there was another unit with that number. 46 was formed in 2022 on the basis of the battalion tactical group of the 95th brigade. BTG, in turn, was formed partly on the basis of reservists and officers who previously served in the 95th and formed the backbone, which was supplemented by mobilized
I like all the new patches/logos they're created after going independent and distancing themselves from the Soviet past for their own identity. Looks more modern and angelic in a way.
Air Assault Forces or Infantry acting special. Parachute shit is all culture and novelty. Sure you can do cool air assault shit when you got air superiority, but in a war between two industrial nations you are just another Infantry man. Only use is rapid response forces in your own territory.
You say that, but the ability to be air mobile means your also a great Rapid reaction force for enemy breakthroughs, and assist in more specialized operations like major river crossings and raids (as we saw in the most recent raid into Belgorod).
These are my favorite videos especially when they are on Soviet and post Soviet country’s. Also could you do a video on the Russian marines please I can’t find any good info on there order of battle and history
Given the current combat conditions, the title 'Airborne' or 'Airmobile' seems to be more of a nod to unit heritage. It looks like everyone is fighting as mech infantry.
Honestly, they should've kept the old VDV looks, just to rub Russia's face about how they have a more competent VDV than the Russian's “HAH HAH!! OUR AIRBORNE TROOPS IS WHAT YOURS SHOULD'VE BEEN!!!"
I get legacy of disbanding but why do so many militaries give new units non sequential numbers, like those new brigades? Or like there being on seal team 9.
The usual suspects are: 1. At one point the army did actually have that many of those type of unit and the others have just been disbanded 2. Certain ranges of numbers are reserved. Like in the US Army during World War I numbering for divisions was 1-25 (Regular Army), 26-75 (National Guard), and 76 and above (National Army). So even though the National Guard divisions only went up to the 42nd, the first National Army Division was the 76th. Another common way is units are part of a "series" that gets raised. So like one year they're raise the 1150th, 1151st, and 1152nd battalions or something. In both cases, Armies will often try to preserve some sense of history and esprit de corps by retaining past designations for the most relevent units. Those units will often retain the battle honors won in the past by their division. The sequential numbering is more common in newer armies with no real unit history or Armies that don't value the unit identity of a certain echelon. For example the US Army cares about division lineages A LOT, the British less so. Most of the pre-2022 Ukrainian brigades inherited a lineage from what used to be a division
@@BattleOrder i thought lineage would be big in the uk given the history of many units. Though I guess they changed so much over the centuries the legacy is already gone.
This War ends with Russian Armies occupying Kiev, and ALL of Eastern Ukraine. And for all of you "No-Nothing-About-History" Jack-Asses, Ukraine was a part of Russia since 1659. Lennin made it a separate state in 1921, and then for Administration reasons Khrushchev moved Ukraine's border with Russia 200 miles eastwards thus bringing 10 Million Ethnic Russians into Ukraine's control.
Since we are on topic. What is the difference in practice between what the landing support battalion does and what the css does? Is it that the lsb gets the supplies to the css and the the css distributes them to the brigades. Cause their mission just says that they both distribute supplies and personnel around and doesn't really clear out why you'd need two different battalions for the same job.
I love the Reorganisation of Ukraines armed forces helps me know that Ukraine is basically a better Russian army that is capable compared to the trashy actual Russian army
machineguns are not obsolete, I can see your mistake on assuming the Abrams is obsolete but where in gods name did you get the idea that a machinegun could be obsolete?
@@radjamaulana7054 obsolete doesn't mean its not being used it means that it is not a viable system due to changes in technology. either way the M249 is still being used today. the XM250 is set to replace it as it is lighter weight and using a heavier cartridge in the 6.8x51mm cartridge. as for the Abrams that was removed from Marine corps inventory due to them re evaluating the mission types the Marine cops is responsible for as they had become too similar to the US army to the point that the marine corps was literally just the army with VTOL jets, when it comes to island hopping and supporting naval operation main battle tanks are not useful, in the same way that it is not useful to deploy amphibious vehicles in a desert with no rivers and long open sightlines.
The 40th AAB took part in combat in Afghanistan, also they were located in Mykolaiv all the time, they just moved from one part of the city to another. I used to watch those guys conduct jumping excercised when I was a kid.
It's basically a holdover from the Soviet method. Generally speaking if a regiment or brigade isn't part of a division (which there are none in the Ukrainian Army now), it's titled "separate". Depending on the situation are a battalion might be a "linear" or "line" unit (numbered 1st, 2nd, 3rd and so on) or "separate" (with its own separate numbering, like the 13th or 56th). In the Ukrainian case generally battalions that are expected to operate away from their parent brigade, like if they are garrisoned in a different base from the brigade HQ or have a distinct mission like peacekeeping, they can be "separate". In theory they should be more capable of independent operations In the Russian case, generally battalions part of regiments (which are part of divisions) will be linear battalions numbered 1st, 2nd, 3rd. And battalions part of brigades will be "separate" with different numbering, even though brigades aren't hugely different regiments (just more support and not part of a division basically). This is mostly semantics and tradition though
It's not general knowledge only because not many people bother to search for the sources. Sure, it might take some collating, especially if no secondary sources are available, but information's out there.
This video can be seen as a sequel to your previous videos, "How the Soviets Built the World's First Airborne" (March 5, 2021) and "The Weakness of Russian VDV Airborne Force Structure" (May 10, 2022).
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I don't know why but when i saw the video i thought of this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Ukrainian_Air_Force_Il-76_shootdown
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@@wiryantirta we might have a business opportunity on our hands
Fun fact, Bolhrad is where most of the Bulgarian minority in Ukraine lives, hence the name, Bol = Bulgarian, hrad or grad = city. The 88th Separate Marine Battalion is mostly manned by Bessarabian Bulgarians.
Very interesting
@@BattleOrderquestion, where do you get so much information about military?
So the name technically means “bulgarian city”?
@@dumboi5369 exactly
@@yevheni.3499 *tad silly but aight lmao*
These graphics remind me of the “immersive” Cold War section at the US Army Museum
if you watch a channels sponsor videos now you'll notice a bit more AI and B-ROll being sold and put together now
@@robert48044 What you on about Bob? XD
@@terrified057t4 you're gonna be seeing a lot of familiar stuff going forward
They remind me of some I've seen in canada and britain too. It's really cool aesthetically.
yeah please keep these graphics
The entire Ukrainian Army and Ukrainian Police national rebranding after 2014 is worth a series. So much has changed
@@dillanspec4 bloody cia and their *checks notes* reforms to reduce corruption and increase professionalism in armed and police forces in foreign countries
@dillanspec4 expect your ruples soon comrade, xaxaxa
@@ethanhatcher5533 so im a russian bot for pointing out that the CIA love to run around overthrowing governments and creating wars for money and have been doing so for 80 years.. makes sense lol read a book
@@dillanspec4 Thank you, comrade, your name has been removed from the mobilization lists!
@@dillanspec4Lil bro thought he can skip being conscripted ☠️
You know what, a whole video about what happened to the soviet forces across europe after the fall of the union would be very interesting
They went home.
That’s it.
@@nobodyherepal3292"Home" is not a simple concept when states are being broken up. For example, an Uzbek tanker in East Germany has 1 year of service left. His unit is reassigned to a base in Ukraine. Is he a Ukrainian citizen and soldier now, even though he has no other ties to Ukraine? Does he have the right to leave and return to Uzbekistan, or another CIS state? Does he have to complete another year of service in Uzbekistan?
@@hailexiao2770 alot of people remained where they were until they got persecuted for being "Russian". The minorities that mostly moved were Russians moving to the republics or the republics moving to Russia. Most places that Russians moved they got persecuted after
@@hailexiao2770I guess he would be Ukrainian no Uzbek or Khazakh, he could be Russian in which case he would tell upper rank to make paperwork for transfer
@@hailexiao2770He would be an uzbek citizen, as every soviet citizen was registered at a certain address. If his address was registered in Uzbekistan, then he just becomes an Uzbekistani citizen. I am not 100% sure about his service, but I would assume he would provably finish his service in Ukraine and then be sent home to Uzbekistan.
Keep in mind however that some professional soldiers (as opposed to conscripts) could just move and be registered to a different state to serve and stay there. That's why some Ukrainian officers are, ironically, russians who moved to Ukraine in Soviet times and decided to stay there.
I would appreciate a series explaining how different armies handle logistics!
the answer is poorly, like 99% of armies around the world have atrocious logistics.
@dominuslogik484
That may be true but it would be interesting to know how and why they're less than adequate.
@@mill2712 typically its the boring stuff, not enough trucks, not enough stuff or the packaging sucks.
For Example the Russians pack the missiles for their Grad rocket launchers in individual wooden boxes that are nailed shut, in order to reload a grad with its 40 or so 122mm tubes you must unbox all 40 missiles using a crowbar and typically a large hammer or axe making it take at best about a minute to open each box.
now the Russians get around this issue by taking the missiles out of their boxes and stacking them on the ground from a staging area but the problem is that then you have a bunch of exposed rockets with armed warheads stacked up in a treeline somewhere and should any fragmentation from returning artillery fire hit the stack all the rockets have a habit of cooking off in sequence but the crates typically offer some protection against chain detonation of the rocket motors and reduce the likelihood of losing a whole stockpile in one go.
so just off the example of the Grad that listed reload speed of 10 minutes is only if all missiles are pre prepared before loading starts and if they are boxed up it will take in excess of one hour to reload the whole system, things like Himars and M270 even their earliest and oldest versions have a built in crane and the missiles are carried in their firing tubes which are square for the purpose of loading into logistics trucks and allowing the whole system to load in a few minutes and the ammo can travel and reposition with the launchers.
TL:DR Logistics is painfully boring and filled with numerous examples of everyone being bad at it.
The graphics keep getting better, I love this monitor style. Great color choices too. Keep it up Battle Order!!
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@@AmirAlami-ey3xxcalm down lil bro go back to watching andrew tate and shit
I think a similar video on the Ukrainian Marines would do well. They just got promoted into being a full branch a few months ago!
they are promoted to core, not into a sep branch, still part of the navy
@@bohdantkachuk8295 Nope, promoted to separate branch in 2023.
@@bohdantkachuk8295The Ukrainian navy works from solid ground anyway.
Ukraine's marine corps? Cargo cult again?
I’m sorry to say as a huge Battle Order fan but this was a VERY dry topic. It might have made a good paper but I figured we’d be examing force structure not the constant re-naming of brigades to the point of obscurity.
Feel like I didn’t learn a lot about Air Mobile Units in Ukraine but rather trivia if I ever walk into a bar that has a “re-tabbing of post Soviet training divisions of airborne units based in Ukraine in 1993”.
Not trying to be too critical but I think middle 50% of this video could have been much better served by discussing how force structure at the company and platoon level evolved and how the actual purpose of the units changed. That’s the meat and potatoes we love.
That said incredible research per usual and it’s a great history video but I think there’s so much more cool stuff to explore!!
The most astonishing thing to me about the development of the Soviet airborne in the post Soviet era is that the VDV and thereby the Russian VDV base much of their mythos on an operation where based on a hastily identified weakness, a landing was made on the western bank of the Dnipro that wound up being directly into the teeth of two unanticipated armoured brigade groups, who wiped them out. Then they did exactly the same thing at Hostomel, with the same result. This is even stranger because the Germans didn't officially have independent armoured brigade groups in 1943.
Basing your identity on operations with high casualties and questionable impact is airborne all the way
@@BattleOrder Absolutely! Just the sheer specificity of the repetition is absolutely wild in this case. Para drops are really the ideal way to have a glorious last stand even if you're winning though.
Very Market Garden of them
@@BattleOrder It is the straight up modus operandi of the dropship troopers
В гастомилее был десант с вертолетов и они все таки смогли продержаться до подхода основных войск 😂😂😂😅😅
I always wondered why an air assault brigade ended up with the Challengers and Marders. It makes sense that the elite units would get the heavy armor. Do you think other air assault units will get Bradleys when more show up? 21:15
Bradleys are in mech brigade (47th)
You have to consider the Soviet VDV tradition more like the USMC than Western paratroopers, in that they’ve expanded past their strict specialities and function more like a second army with an esprit de corps thinking they’re superior to regular infantry (I’m not disregarding that marines are more universally useful than paratroopers, but amphibious warfare was a niche inside the USMC, not their bread and butter). Besides that, the Soviet VDV was uniquely heavily armoured and not primarily light infantry as paratroopers usually are. The Soviet and Russian VDV have also frequently swapped their lighter airmobile armoured vehicles for regular BMPs, BTRs, and tanks once they got stuck in the fighting like in Afghanistan and Chechnya. The unique thing about the Ukrainian DShV in this regard is that they accepted this on an organisational level and largely embraced their role as glorified mechanised infantry, only keeping a few airmobile battalions, instead of sticking with wide scale use of BMDs etc. like the Russians. The steppe that covers much of eastern Ukraine is also just so well suited for armoured warfare, so you see comparatively heavy mechanisation in most of their units. Even multiple Ukrainian units that are labelled as SOF are essentially equipped like regular mechanised infantry.
Ukraine made all of there air assault forces except for like i battalion mechanized. Only 1 group still has the ability to actually conduct air assaults
@@fridrekr7510 like the azov 12th "special purpose" natl guard brigade, yes?
For the Challengers the answer is: they only got 14 and most Mechanized Brigades have a tank battalion (30-ish tanks), while air assault Brigades only have a tank company.
So the alternative was to have the Tank Battalion in a Mech Brigade with 14 Challengers and 15-20 tanks of another model, which doesn't make much sense.
It's a bit obscure fact but the Soviet VDV also used the maroon coloured berets in the 60s (it was an initial concept), but it later was changed to the blue one.
Christianity having patron saints for everything imaginable is really fascinating - although I feel like this kind of official link with respective militaries seems to exist primarily among Orthodox countries?
At least for St Michael he's the patron saint of paratroopers in the west too. French paratroopers and the American 82nd do St Michaels Day jumps for example. Don't know about other saints though
@@BattleOrder wish i could find a list of saints with their corresponding military units and stuff, the only i know are saint javlein saint himars etc.
@@khaingaung- Saint Barbara is the patron saint of artillerymen, but that's all I know.
@@khaingaung-single digit iq type of comment
Not at all. There are official links with saints and church traditions in the British, French and Italian armies, and all over South America. The United States has less official ones that are observed nonetheless by troops such as the Order of Saint George for Armor and Cavalrymen and the Order of Saint Maurice for the US infantry being honors troops can receive for meritorious service.
goddammit man its almost 5am for me when you uploaded this lol
Omggg sameee
Pst gang 😎😎
(Everything is on fire)
He just uploaded it in Ukrainian time.
I know I already said this, but please do the Australian defence force (mainly army). I feel like they’re pretty unique and quite modernised for a small army.
listening to this in the background while exhausted I was very confused when I've heard "organic helicopters"
They run on sunlight 😎
Non-GMO Mi-24s of course
Free range to!?
Excellent Video. I cannot beging to grasp how much research and illustration work must have gone into this video. Also moving a holiday from Summer into Winter must have been popular :) In Germany we had the same with reunification day in October replacing the old national holiday commemoration the East German Uprising in 1953 in June :)
The sponser really understood battle order’s audience
Great video! I live not far from Bolhrad, and my dad worked with soldiers from there during the Soviet coup in 1991. He was a militsioner (policeman), and they were patrolling the Soviet-Romanian border.
From my understanding, pre-2014, the Ukrainian army only has about 8 thousand combat ready troops. Out of the whole country, only 8 thousand or so.
Yes, 300k on paper, but in reality only small amount of combat capable troops including some experienced in Iraq and Afghanistan. First month of 2014 war was carried by volunteer bataillions with three weeks of training and no equipment.
I love me the 46th Airmobile Brigade's new insignia, but the old one is equally as cool when compared.
I'm a Boer from South Africa. I have 2 very good friends of whom one is fighting for Ukraine and the other for Russia (on different fronts, thankfully). They still communicate via family and are still friends, mostly trying to convince the other to change sides. I pray that a peace deal will come soon. God bless you guys.
Same shit.
Some of my friends are fighting for Russia and others for Ukraine. The worst part is that they may have shot at each other as pro Russian friends served in vdv and spetsnaz that was sent tp storm kiev and gostomel, while Ukrainian friends served in police spetsnaz and artillery units that first repelled vdv forces from gostomel and then destroyed storming units from Kostroma regiment. The majority of them are dead now. At the moment I have one fighting for Ukraine, recovering in hospital, the other 2 fighting for Russia and one stationed in the Syrian group of forces.
Pretty much sure that none of us would think we would kill each other when we trained together at a boxing club as teenagers.
@@johnfrost1814 it's crazy man, war can tear close friends apart
@@johnfrost1814Why tf are so many of your friends in a war bro.what country are you from?
man I can think of nothing more emblematic of south Africans than the exact situation you just described.
Guys who fight on Russia side are DPR/LPR? @@johnfrost1814
would be interesting if you took a look into Baltic militaries. They literally had to create everything from scratch as Soviets left with everything (including all units) after independence.
So they're basically just regular mechanized infantry but with a fancy name?
Well, mechanized infantry that can do air assaults if needed.
@@nobodyherepal3292 can't do air assaults on vehicles that aren't designed for it, they may have a couple of air mobile battalions but the force as a whole isn't air mobile
@@maximilianodelrio right, that’s what I mean.
They have some of their units able to do small air assaults if needed (like, in river crossings or redeployment)
Like every paratrooper units in the whole world ?
@@Cynthia_Blackraven_666 kind of, except they're mostly unable to do air assaults, while for example the US's airborne or other countries with smaller forces actually can, and are lighter
Half a year ago all the "old brigades" were awarded honorary titles depending on the historical-ethnographic region they were based in:
80 - Galicia
95 - Polesia
81 - Slobozanshchyna
25 - Sicheslav (old for Dnipro city)
79 - Tavria
That's much better than some red star shit.
Beautiful work, you are such a perfectionist!
So they're pretty much like the German Fallschirmjagers, in that they lost the ability to air drop but were instead deployed as elite infantry units.
And thus became far more useful for actual combat.
Yes YES YESSSS!.
Thank you for the amazing video. Keep up the great work.
Please do a video on German mechanized infantry or armor
America: donates Strykers to Ukraine
Cappy from T & P: I’m… free!
I genuinly have to applaud this video, but also want to ask what you think of the state of each respective force in terms of force quality, logistics, etc? I know its probably a vain dream that ya will, but hey, its a hope.
I'm not really in a position to thoroughly observe the units and how they perform so I don't think I can have an opinion on how good they are until someone writes a comprehensive history post-war (or at least a few years down the road). We barely know what part of the country they're in at a given time.
In general I avoid discussions about force quality. If I do mention a criticism in a video it's usually to do with obvious flaws in a force structure rather than, say, training quality or the quality of leadership which to me is a more complicated issue
@@BattleOrder Totally understand. It's just a rare thing we're seeing, and my thoughts are to how both forces manage to supply and adapt to a 1200 km plus front while keeping to their respective doctrines, and how said doctrines have adapted at this stage of the war. Apologies for the bother of the initial comment, you rock 🤜.
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Да, приятель, многие смотрят на происходящее с большим удивлением.
Some of these post 2014 unit emblems look super medieval, very based. Shame I the only desantnik I've known isn't with us anymore, maybe I'd manage to procure a patch for my collection 😢
Actualy T-80BV companies of 79 and 80 air-assault brigades was put into reserve after short time, so only 95 and 25 brigades had t-80bv as for russian invasion
Great video, once more!
This was such a joy to watch. Thank you so much for putting this together with so much care for accurate details and information!
Suggestion for a topic: Organisation and equipment for the 1st Marine Reconnaissance battalion, during Operation Iraqi freedom. (Generation Kill)
Hello-I am kind of surprised that the 78th Regiment "Herts" get so few Credit, while being even trained in its early days against the will of the DShV command. I am myself a foreign Volunteer from Germany and was quite happy about the Video, but this put a slight dent in it
Nice graphics / motion design.
love the video as always
I hope you make one for AFU's mechanized brigades as well,
like the infamous 3rd, 93rd, and 47th Mech Brigades.
So gratefull for your video. As ukranian, very lovely to see your attention on such details. And tes, graphic stilization like in WARNO is just cool xd
Thanks man.
I’m absolutely loving the new layout
That was an incredible density of information. I’m gonna need to watch it at least four times to get it.
Hi BO, twas a great video ! Could you someday do a video on Engineer units like you did on logi once ?
Impressive history and transformation
there is information on the Internet that the 46th brigade was founded in 2016, but this is not true. then there was another unit with that number. 46 was formed in 2022 on the basis of the battalion tactical group of the 95th brigade. BTG, in turn, was formed partly on the basis of reservists and officers who previously served in the 95th and formed the backbone, which was supplemented by mobilized
I like all the new patches/logos they're created after going independent and distancing themselves from the Soviet past for their own identity. Looks more modern and angelic in a way.
Air Assault Forces or Infantry acting special. Parachute shit is all culture and novelty. Sure you can do cool air assault shit when you got air superiority, but in a war between two industrial nations you are just another Infantry man. Only use is rapid response forces in your own territory.
exactly
You say that, but the ability to be air mobile means your also a great Rapid reaction force for enemy breakthroughs, and assist in more specialized operations like major river crossings and raids (as we saw in the most recent raid into Belgorod).
Digging the new graphics in these last 2 videos!
The way that the truck tyres self destructed on the road to Kyiv....
Jäger? Interesting
Did they lose the striped t-shirt?
I find it odd that Soviet airborne forces chose a sailors garment for a distinctive uniform
These are my favorite videos especially when they are on Soviet and post Soviet country’s. Also could you do a video on the Russian marines please I can’t find any good info on there order of battle and history
Babe wake up new Battle Order video dropped
Thanks for the extensive explanation!
Given the current combat conditions, the title 'Airborne' or 'Airmobile' seems to be more of a nod to unit heritage. It looks like everyone is fighting as mech infantry.
He's just a little guy!
Can you make a Video about the west german army in the 1980s ?
I have such a video for tank units ruclips.net/video/hsbKzm_xPXc/видео.html
Love your work battle order !!!
Plus the new ranger regiment
Would love to see some content on Romanian armour and armoured divisions
upload for lunch, nice
I would like to see you cover the Assault Pioneers of either the British or Canadian Armies
This may be an uncommon request but could we get the armor unit, infantry unit, and others for the Serbian Army
I think you cooked with the editing on this one
6:50 anyone know what's going on here? Clearly a tank is being air dropped but it's like a rocket motor fires just before it hits the ground
It's a BMD of some kind. They can be dropped with crew, but the landing has to be decelerated.
Man i bet the guy plays Warno :D
I gotta say, the Ukrainian military across the board have amazing unit logos *chef's kiss*
Can you make a video for waffen-ss and Swiss army during cold war?
Loving the graphics!
The preview picture just looks silly.
Wtf happend with your logo background?
It's been like that for a year at least maybe more
@@trevdestroyer8209 is he a pedof or does he identify as animal? … that’s disgusting
Honestly, they should've kept the old VDV looks, just to rub Russia's face about how they have a more competent VDV than the Russian's
“HAH HAH!! OUR AIRBORNE TROOPS IS WHAT YOURS SHOULD'VE BEEN!!!"
Talks about ШДВ and proceeds to show ВДВ BTRs
will you make a video on the re-sovietization of the lost territories?
Nice and very informative video, amazing graphics and really cool and unknown facts! Greetings from Ukraine! 🫶
Ukrainian paratrooper forces are called actually Airborne-Assault.
Slava Ukraine....Slava NAFO....
Very interesting video!
I did some joint training with the 13th Airmobile Battalion in 2011. I wonder how many of those guys are still around.
AIR ASSAULT
I get legacy of disbanding but why do so many militaries give new units non sequential numbers, like those new brigades? Or like there being on seal team 9.
The usual suspects are:
1. At one point the army did actually have that many of those type of unit and the others have just been disbanded
2. Certain ranges of numbers are reserved. Like in the US Army during World War I numbering for divisions was 1-25 (Regular Army), 26-75 (National Guard), and 76 and above (National Army). So even though the National Guard divisions only went up to the 42nd, the first National Army Division was the 76th. Another common way is units are part of a "series" that gets raised. So like one year they're raise the 1150th, 1151st, and 1152nd battalions or something.
In both cases, Armies will often try to preserve some sense of history and esprit de corps by retaining past designations for the most relevent units. Those units will often retain the battle honors won in the past by their division. The sequential numbering is more common in newer armies with no real unit history or Armies that don't value the unit identity of a certain echelon. For example the US Army cares about division lineages A LOT, the British less so. Most of the pre-2022 Ukrainian brigades inherited a lineage from what used to be a division
@@BattleOrder i thought lineage would be big in the uk given the history of many units. Though I guess they changed so much over the centuries the legacy is already gone.
@@marcus7564 the regiment is the most important thing in the British Army. Divisions are historically more ephemeral
No Brazil video?
I've never felt as called out by an ad as I have just now
The synth astethics are top tier
Air Assault with tanks
This War ends with Russian Armies occupying Kiev, and ALL of Eastern Ukraine. And for all of you "No-Nothing-About-History" Jack-Asses, Ukraine was a part of Russia since 1659. Lennin made it a separate state in 1921, and then for Administration reasons Khrushchev moved Ukraine's border with Russia 200 miles eastwards thus bringing 10 Million Ethnic Russians into Ukraine's control.
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Vladivostok is China
Since we are on topic. What is the difference in practice between what the landing support battalion does and what the css does? Is it that the lsb gets the supplies to the css and the the css distributes them to the brigades. Cause their mission just says that they both distribute supplies and personnel around and doesn't really clear out why you'd need two different battalions for the same job.
SLAVA UKRAINI
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I love the Reorganisation of Ukraines armed forces helps me know that Ukraine is basically a better Russian army that is capable compared to the trashy actual Russian army
Do the M249 LMG and M1 Abrams tank obsolete nowadays in USMC?
machineguns are not obsolete, I can see your mistake on assuming the Abrams is obsolete but where in gods name did you get the idea that a machinegun could be obsolete?
@@dominuslogik484 guessing from the M27's adoption? But M27 hardly replaces the SAW imo
@@dominuslogik484obsolete as in no longer being used. The op above is asking whether the usmc is still using 249s and abrams or not
@@radjamaulana7054 obsolete doesn't mean its not being used it means that it is not a viable system due to changes in technology. either way the M249 is still being used today. the XM250 is set to replace it as it is lighter weight and using a heavier cartridge in the 6.8x51mm cartridge.
as for the Abrams that was removed from Marine corps inventory due to them re evaluating the mission types the Marine cops is responsible for as they had become too similar to the US army to the point that the marine corps was literally just the army with VTOL jets, when it comes to island hopping and supporting naval operation main battle tanks are not useful, in the same way that it is not useful to deploy amphibious vehicles in a desert with no rivers and long open sightlines.
Very interesting
The 40th AAB took part in combat in Afghanistan, also they were located in Mykolaiv all the time, they just moved from one part of the city to another. I used to watch those guys conduct jumping excercised when I was a kid.
Soviets weren't really the problem now, were they. I know who, but RUclips doesn't allow it to be typed.
Why is everything "Separate?"
It's basically a holdover from the Soviet method.
Generally speaking if a regiment or brigade isn't part of a division (which there are none in the Ukrainian Army now), it's titled "separate".
Depending on the situation are a battalion might be a "linear" or "line" unit (numbered 1st, 2nd, 3rd and so on) or "separate" (with its own separate numbering, like the 13th or 56th).
In the Ukrainian case generally battalions that are expected to operate away from their parent brigade, like if they are garrisoned in a different base from the brigade HQ or have a distinct mission like peacekeeping, they can be "separate". In theory they should be more capable of independent operations
In the Russian case, generally battalions part of regiments (which are part of divisions) will be linear battalions numbered 1st, 2nd, 3rd. And battalions part of brigades will be "separate" with different numbering, even though brigades aren't hugely different regiments (just more support and not part of a division basically). This is mostly semantics and tradition though
@@BattleOrder I finally have an answer to this. Thanks man.
I take it when you say _"they are taking the flags",_ such as at 7:02 you mean their regimental colours?
How do you know all of this? this cant be general knowledge!
Ukrainian sources, including a book on the air assault forces
It's not general knowledge only because not many people bother to search for the sources. Sure, it might take some collating, especially if no secondary sources are available, but information's out there.
Cool! Thank you! 🇺🇦
Wow 😳
How is the overall military organised, if the air mobile brigades are separate from the army?
This video can be seen as a sequel to your previous videos, "How the Soviets Built the World's First Airborne" (March 5, 2021) and "The Weakness of Russian VDV Airborne Force Structure" (May 10, 2022).