Honestly watching all these games you can sometimes forget Beef did all these cards himself alone on a giant map (and with a bunch of scraps!), it's honestly mindblowing that it feels like such a huge game with so many gameplay options
I haven't been following Beef at the start of the season. Did he really make all those in game? I thought it was made with a plug-in. I know he made the album covers in s7 but that sounds like an insane amount of work.
@@olavisalomaa He has a spawn house (+sheep farm) and the maps island. He spent the past +8 months creating these maps one by one😉 Master of his craft 😊
Regarding the String card -- what can you do to remove string in regular Minecraft? Placing water! The Water Bucket card removing String would fit the theme of real-Minecraft function, and would provide an extra use for the Water Bucket, similarly how you're introducing Paralysis being curable with Milk Bucket!
Also having the water bucket mitigate bow damage would be a great addition to diversifying the card. Just little things to give it more use like you said
@@dooda9566 Shears could have been a reaction card if those were part of the game, because you'd snip the fuse to TNT, but reaction cards are not in the game yet.
considering how many turns you skipped, how many golden apples etho used, the yolo, and the missed death loop roll, you did amazing, don’t knock yourself too much
Man, we were all "laughing" at that ultra rare and "weak" Etho card, but the slab attack is actually insane if you're lucky. You really made watch this on the edge of my seat
I'd say he's a little better than common hermits, and worth playing right now in hybrid decks or even mono decks that don't have enough hermits otherwise, but he's still weak for an ultra rare.
Etho was under the impression that a "crush Beef" deck would be less fun, but I think that was still a very good and entertaining match. GG Beef! Thank you for all your hard work creating this incredible game!
Idea for alter-ego card: Dungeon Master Tango Decked Out themed moves Would have suggested GOATfather too, but I'll be patient to see what Doc's alter ego is!
There should be a Wormman too, although we will never know whose alter ego that is because their identity is a secret. All we know for sure is that it's definitely _not_ Zedaph!
The rocket at 20:32 is the important one, this would've been the coin flip determining if Scar comes back, and it was red, so he wouldn't have come back anyways.
Now that many Hermits has experienced Gem's PVP abilities, seems like she could have her own alter ego card for GeminiSlay. You could probably use a skin from one of her MCC wins. I was thinking she could have a special move called "Juggle" that upon winning a coin flip, the opponent can't attack the next turn. As that's kinda/sorta similar to Pearl's Aussie Ping, maybe just limit the next attack to the least powerful of the available moves or something like that. Just food for thought.
Gem's special move should be to deal 'crit' damage if she took a certain amount of damage in the previous turn, as she's been teaching a few hermits to counter-crit in PvP recently.
I would like to suggest to have a card called the debug stick serving as a direct counter to the lead so you replace your cards that were moved and I think it fits the theme of the expansion
Not gonna lie, beef is actually a great player at THE GAME HE MADE. Really close to win etho there Edit: also I rewatched the clip where they forgot to roll for deathloop, and right after that beef got a chance to roll for slab. Guess what? Beef rolled a red in his first roll! Which means scar would be knocked out regardless
actually it meant everything would've been one order out, meaning that last time skip would have been a red, which could've let beef win the game. Still an amazing match all in all!
Guys if he'd given his builder items to rendog instead of beef, he could've used yolo with the efficiency book then he could've switched back to etho and taken out another hermit ez
@@DarkValorWolf also the game would've been 2-2 with beefs bow knocking out the iskall card. Really would've loved to see the game play out smoother but all in all good game by both of them
As tragic as the scar thing is, just like in real TCG games, if both players and the GM miss/forget something then there is no takebacks, you just lose it. Gg though, such a tense game
if it's still possible to rewind to the moment it happened, then sometimes they will. But in this case the game had progressed way too far beyond it, every move being informed by the board state and what cards were drawn etc. There's just no rewinding that.
To be fair etho did get extremely bad rolls, the 3 cards he needed to win the game instantly were the last 3 he would've rolled. With odds in favour this could've been a 7-8 move game.
An etho alternative card called “ladders” where the 2 moves are “I go up” and “I go down” etho can’t attack the currently active hermit. His moves only hit the guy above or below the active hermit depending on the move.
Beef held up pretty great against Etho, I feel like Doc vs Etho will just come down to who can draw their Stress and Efficiency first that'll be interesting to see. Also I'm still hoping Batralis will be part of the Alter Ego packs I feel like there's some interesting moves you could do with him
I think Ezed Kineezed would be more appropriate for the current season. He's pulled that one out a few times. Arrow catch could be a defensive special by preventing arrows/crossbows from working.
@@HerculePyro Honestly, I'm just praying for Maid Zedaph but I know I won't get it. The strong move would be `Body Pillow` referring to the best piece of merch ever released from the HC server. 😂
That's not exactly how randomization works. What the RNG of the game would have decided in that moment is not the same as what the RNG was several seconds later. It's two different points in time. That's probably the most egregious mistake I've seen all tournament, but for what it's worth, I think Etho's deck beats Beef's deck 9 times out of 10, anyhow.
@@mapwheel00 He has the same odds no matter what point in time he rolls. It doesn't matter if I roll a dice now or 5 years from now. I will always have 1/6 chance of rolling a 4.
@@-_-TJde BatBeard's arguement wasn't what the odds were; BatBeard's argument was that if the roll had happened, it would have been red, which is not necessarily true.
@@mapwheel00 I wasn't commenting on BatBeard's argument. I was commenting on the fact that you stated the RNG would be different because it was a different point in time. RNG doesn't care about time. Beef rolled once at the end of the game for Scar's ability and got red. Done.
Aside from the little discussions of statisticy and rng stuff down here, this is enough to let me brush it off with peace of mind lol, what happened happened, and considering this it basically feels like the Scar never rolled a green is all that happened, the agonizing bit is just not knowing 100% that it wouldn’t have
You’re probably sick of hearing it by now… but still congrats on creating this game Beef! You made a game the likes of which has rarely been seen in Minecraft. Being able to create these situations (like in this match) which are so intense and thrilling is just absolutely fenomenal!
the way my heart sunk when no one called to roll for death loop... I dare say you might have beaten etho if it had gone off. I'm one of etho's commenters who said to go all out against you, and I'm glad I did. It ended up being a much more exciting match in the end! The ultra rare etho is better than I imagined it would be. You did a great job beefers
I feel like the play would've been to use TNT instead of bowing Iskall. Even if you hit 0 rolls on Etho's slab, Xisuma would've been down to 40 so even if Etho had swapped, it would've been a guaranteed bow kill on X in the next round. And if you hit 2 rolls on slab like you did, X is dead combined with the TNT and you hide the fact that you have bows in your deck.
Almost all of the time i've seen them use bow, its not used strategically. More often than not its being used to damage an afk hermit that wouldnt be brought out anyway.
I saw this play too but it's easier to see those kind of missed plays as an unstressed third party. Beef did really well. Although I really hope that all the hermits will figure out that the bow should only be used when you have a high chance of knocking out the AFK hermit that turn or the turn after. Using the bow as a "damage an AFK hermit for the hell of it" card is kind of a waste.
ya. Beef had three choices: no singe use, bow and tnt. He chose the only option that didn't lead to a knockout. tnt would've killed x with one green, and if he played neither but got all greens, he'd've knocked x out next turn with his bow.
Your thumbnails are always top tier, Beef! My Submissions page is really just a wall of minecraft videos and yours noticably stand out from all the others. I can tell in a glance when you have a new video and always look forward to the next one!
The TCG became such a big part of HC, it feels like it was always around! And then I realise it won’t be there next season and it makes me sad. You’re really carrying this point of the season Beef, some Hermits seemed to be slowing down a bit, then TCG came around and it inspired many for new projects!
This was such a close match. But I knew it was over when Etho used the chest; he was getting back the efficiency book he used earlier, and not a golden apple. That's also why he switched that turn just to make absolutely sure you couldn't get him on what he knew would be your last turn. But yeah, I know you're dissapointed but this was an incredibly fun, close match!
Is it bad that I'm eye-twitching at Beef putting lime dye on Jevin's name? lol Beef, I joked on twitter that if any hermits asked you to make another TCG on season 10 (you know coz it's back breaking work lol)...but look at you not even on season 10 and making new cards 😂you are a madman. Amazing work tho, all the hard work is very much appreciated.
I think a different sort of board game would be a good idea, a tcg game with different rules would be fun down the line but there's so many games that could be played on item frames. Perhaps battleships could be played in a similar fashion!
Lets not talk season 10 lol. I hate it when they change seasons. All those hardwork down the drain. People built games that hardly got played and changed to new seasons. Really heart breaking. For example etho and bdubs horse course, pvp arena. For example tango's decked out. Sure alot of ppl played decked out, but its backbreaking work and changing the season is just such a pity. Or tango's among us game
@@ionmeth2031 nah, i replied to Keralis' tweet then and joked that the hermits should tell beef to redo it in s10 (as a joke coz it took him ages) Keralis said "yes TCG 2.0" and beef "liked" it lol... tis ok, multiple hermits said s9 is not anywhere near done
I watched back, and for extra piece of mind the next rocket that was fired after you lost scar was actually red, so even if you hadn't forgotten he wouldn't have come back. Great game Beef!
Not only was the toss at the end red, the next toss after Scar being knocked out (the first slab toss) was also red so unfortunately death loop wouldn't have happened even then :/ Great game nonetheless and you did really great especially considering Etho was using his "crush Beef" deck
Beef, if you make a Tango alter ego with his ice skin. His special move could be to freeze all hermits on the board for 1 or 2 turns, where both players only can add and use items but can’t change or attack for those turns. Basically a way to draw more cards and prep more but for both players.
Valiant effort Beef! I think the Command Block could have a tag like "Creative" which means it cant be affected by cards after its placed. This could open the door for stuff like a barrier block or end portal frame to have a consistent theme. I'm not as big a fan of the fire charge at the moment. I think having a card that exists only to discard one of your own cards is something that won't ever make the cut into a deck.
Beef, this game has been one of my favourite things in Hermitcraft in years. There has been so much amazing content but the dedication you have put into this is just insane!
This has been soooooo awesome Beefers... I've been around from close to the start of mindcrack.. its all full circle, love to see where you n bdubs, ketho,. doc n all u guys on the server are at now. much love thanks for the content my friend northeast of Detroit
Ok ngl great intro giving a clue as to the structure of the episode. Public speaking experts agree. Love the episodes. Been watching for like 10 years… cheers
I know it’s a bit early to talk about more expansion packs, but you could make an entire set based around the server game of demise! Love the videos on TCG, and my lord you are making some awesome cards!
you could give the command-block the effect, that if someone uses a lead or curse of vanishing on it, both players get to use the effect of that card. Or all cards the hermit had attached will either be discarded or returned to the hand. That would leave a lot more room for strategies than just making it impossible to remove the card
What a great TCG match. And for piece of mind Beef, the next roll after your Scar got knocked out was red at 20:33. If it was green I would've contemplated a rematch.
Etho’s hearthstone grinding is really showing holy cow. The way he just strangles opponents is like watching magnus carlson play chess. Absolutely the front runner. Well done Beef. You fought hard.
In Etho's last video when he asked us whether he should build a farm deck with the rare iskall to counter your deck, I knew you had the UR Etho and I was so excited to see that catch him off guard. Such a good match.
@33:00 Gratz on remembering Death Loop! But just like American Football, if there is a play/turn after the goof-up. Too bad so sad. @19:10 You use Death Loop, then Etho knocks him out but you didn't use the Death Loop special ability to coin toss to revive... sigh Funny how X was like peace I gotta do some things then you can see him sitting up in the stands. xD
Idea: You should add a build/creation card that has a lot of health but can't go afk and counts as 2 hermets when knocked out (maybe you can also only have one in your deck) Cards it can be are -tnt cannon -wither -iron golem -arrow dispenser
One effect card that could be useful could be a straight “nope” card. Be an immediate play and it will nope any effect or attack, any effect will be put to the discard as used, and if used for an attack would also nullify any effect attached to the discard. Example would be the yolo using an efficiency effect etho used, the yolo would not happen and the efficiency card would be discarded.
Beef, we love the TCG! One of the best things ever created in Minecraft. Good Job! What about making an effect card, like a rocket or something, that allows your active Hermit to flee becoming afk and you can switch to a new active Hermit but still attack with the new active Hermit. Kinda the opposite of the chorus fruit. Sort of an alter ego.
hey beef!! there should be an equipment card in the expansion pack that punishes someone for attacking. for example 'wolf pack' when hit with an attack it would do a residual amount of damage back to that hermit. i think it would really create some tension around choosing attacks and would promote switching hermits. could make things interesting!
Here's some effect card Ideas: Creeper - does 30 damage to all hermits and discard one item from both active hermits, Allay - attach one discarded single item to active hermit.
I think fire charge would be better as an AoE. Area of Effect. Maybe 30 damage to active hermit and 20 to the adjacent hermits. It fits in the theming of placement
Maybe cactus could be one item of choice for active hermit and fire charge could remove one item from active opponent and one item from adjacent afk hermits but fire charge would be ultra rare. removing 3 item cards in one move would be very powerful.
Here's a thought: Suspicious stew. Equippable effect card, has a random effect that activates when the hermit it's attached to takes damage. This would mean you'd have to make a handful, but at least you don't have to remake the image many times.
Beef! Not sure if anyone else pointed it out yet or not but I noticed at the very end you made the Jevin sign lime green instead of the regular green by accident! As I know how much of a perfectionist you can be I wanted to bring it to your attention. Love all the content and the cards.
You could add a "creative" card text to the Command Block card, which makes the card with "creative" ignore any and all effects that would otherwise affect the card.
I'd like to give an idea for a special move. It would have the potential to be extremely strong, but would need a huge amount of setup: Every AFK hermit on your team do an attack that they have unlocked (Cleo's special can copy someone that has no itens on them, this one can't), but the special effects of those attacks don't happen (you don't get Well's extra damage from his life colour, you can't steel things with Grian's special, etc, you only do the marked damage).
That was an amazing match! So sad about the Scar mishap, but y’all played it like champs! Talked thru it, manned up and owned it as a group 🖤™️ Y’all set a great example for gamers everywhere
Suggestions for cards:- Mess with the values if required A-Dwarfpulse ( Impulse ) Miner Type 1. Dwarf Vision - 40 Reveals 2 of the opponent's cards if heads 2 Dig - 90 B- Cleaning Lady (Pearl) Balanced type 1. Clean - 40 2. Dumpster Diving - 80 If heads draw two cards C -Beacon (Attached Effect Card) - Can introduce different effects on this using seperate cards(Ultra rare) •Speed Beacon - if heads hermit evades attack •Regeneration Beacon - Heals 20 hp every turn/ heals 40 hp if heads •Strength Beacon - Does + 40 damage if heads All beacons count as a beacon so only one per deck if only 1 ultra rare is allowed in a deck
In the scenario where someone plays scar and powers him up, I think it's on that person to then activate the move. Realizing it after the fact probably shouldn't do any good, because it is still a move you need to actively play. That said, you did great! You had him on the ropes towards the end! Great game! =)
Adding a companion “hermit” card like a dog, Jelly, parrot, etc would be cool to see added. To add an interesting element, they could be low hp cards that are always afk, but assist the active hermit. This could add another layer of strategy with your card placement expansion pack.
I hope ladders will be an alter ego, maybe give him synergy with a ladder card or something, maybe he could attack on the same turn he switched in because he uses ladders to switch in? Def would be explorer type
vintage beef my all time fav Minecraft yt channel i found u again!! thats crazzy and i missed allot content. mindcraft definitely my all time favorite series. bring it back!
I think the game went the way that neither of you had expected but it was really interesting to see how both of you adjusted on your feet and it was a very close match! GG! And just for your peace of mind: the very next coin flip that happend right after Scar was knocked out, was red. So it would not have made a difference anyway. Kinda lucky that the mistake didn't cause further trouble so the result still stands but yeah it probably always bothers the player knowing that something could have made a difference.
you know what might be interesting? Team Cards, make them like the boomers ability where their moves get powered up per member of the team on the board and you would eneable some interesting theme decks that could be cool.
Beef, if you want to put the composter card controversy to rest, my suggestion is to reword it so that the player may discard up to 2 cards, and for every card discarded, draw a replacement. It makes the card more flexible but with a smaller benefit, as compared to the flint and steel, and it would reduce the chance of mistakenly trying to use the card. It also makes it function more like a Minecraft composter.
one suggestion I'd like to make - I feel like it'd be nice to have a counter to the lead. make it a higher rarity, probably, but moving items on your own playfield would be an interesting add to strategies, even if you can only have like one of them in the deck. maybe a piston effect?
Alternatively, maybe it could return things to your hand from the board? That way you would need to do the swap over two turns, which would make it less powerful and more of a risk.
I’m glad you feel your hard work over the last year has more than paid off. It’s one thing for your audience to tell you this; it’s another for you to internalize it. As the tiny minority of Etho’s audience that did not want him to crush you but instead to have a fun game instead, I’m glad your match with Etho was so close. Fantastic edge of the seat gameplay. It’s a shame not one of you remembered Scar’s special move until much later, but it was worse that you left your Wels right side up in the active position despite him being afk the whole time ;p GG on the match!!
I went back to see if the next rocket after scar being killed hit, and it did not he wouldn't have been revived if you guys had remembered. 19:55 - 20:35
Honestly watching all these games you can sometimes forget Beef did all these cards himself alone on a giant map (and with a bunch of scraps!), it's honestly mindblowing that it feels like such a huge game with so many gameplay options
I haven't been following Beef at the start of the season. Did he really make all those in game? I thought it was made with a plug-in. I know he made the album covers in s7 but that sounds like an insane amount of work.
@@olavisalomaa Yes he has been working on placing the blocks for this game for months
@@olavisalomaa He has a spawn house (+sheep farm) and the maps island. He spent the past +8 months creating these maps one by one😉 Master of his craft 😊
@@olavisalomaa Yep, he did all the cards one by one with maps. They used the plugin only for the maps sprite while on the inventory.
@@olavisalomaa he handmade everything.
The card names all those are plugin xisuma helped him.
But the image of the card are all him
Regarding the String card -- what can you do to remove string in regular Minecraft? Placing water! The Water Bucket card removing String would fit the theme of real-Minecraft function, and would provide an extra use for the Water Bucket, similarly how you're introducing Paralysis being curable with Milk Bucket!
Also having the water bucket mitigate bow damage would be a great addition to diversifying the card. Just little things to give it more use like you said
Shears would also make sense for your "cutting" the string.
i also thought shears but it woild be good for then to have another use
@@dooda9566 Shears could have been a reaction card if those were part of the game, because you'd snip the fuse to TNT, but reaction cards are not in the game yet.
considering how many turns you skipped, how many golden apples etho used, the yolo, and the missed death loop roll, you did amazing, don’t knock yourself too much
Man, we were all "laughing" at that ultra rare and "weak" Etho card, but the slab attack is actually insane if you're lucky. You really made watch this on the edge of my seat
Well it's an average special attack if you get ultra lucky, and you only got 250 health too
I'd say he's a little better than common hermits, and worth playing right now in hybrid decks or even mono decks that don't have enough hermits otherwise, but he's still weak for an ultra rare.
Really it was only strong because of the Netherite armour tbh
@@mrjingles2487 that's why I said "if you're lucky" (lucky enough to pull the armour card and lucky enough to get the right buttin presses)
Etho was under the impression that a "crush Beef" deck would be less fun, but I think that was still a very good and entertaining match. GG Beef! Thank you for all your hard work creating this incredible game!
Well that one lead really crushed that crush beef plan hahaha
If Etho played this other deck, I really think Beef might’ve won 3-1. Beef’s deck & draws were really good there.
Idea for alter-ego card: Dungeon Master Tango
Decked Out themed moves
Would have suggested GOATfather too, but I'll be patient to see what Doc's alter ego is!
Love it!
GeminiSlay for Gem, 8AM Pearl or TrashLady for Pearl,
I felt like Mumbo's alternate should have been Jumbo :P
There should be a Wormman too, although we will never know whose alter ego that is because their identity is a secret. All we know for sure is that it's definitely _not_ Zedaph!
Didn't Doc have that one cult thing last season?
A scarlet pearl card that has synergy with the wolf card that doesn't see much use could be pretty interesting!
Yeah maybe like do 80 but deal 50 more damage if die has a wolf attached.(maybe different damage but yeah)
nice - I like this Idea as well, although I would call it '5am Pearl' :D
@@deebea6364 5am is already one of her moves
Love the tcg and love the video keep up the good work
The rocket at 20:32 is the important one, this would've been the coin flip determining if Scar comes back,
and it was red, so he wouldn't have come back anyways.
Now that many Hermits has experienced Gem's PVP abilities, seems like she could have her own alter ego card for GeminiSlay. You could probably use a skin from one of her MCC wins. I was thinking she could have a special move called "Juggle" that upon winning a coin flip, the opponent can't attack the next turn. As that's kinda/sorta similar to Pearl's Aussie Ping, maybe just limit the next attack to the least powerful of the available moves or something like that. Just food for thought.
Her special ability should be: if she hits Etho, it is a instant knockout (no matter the health) XD
Sounds cool but the alter ego is meant to balance the game, not sure if that would balance the game, sounds a bit too strong
Gem's special move should be to deal 'crit' damage if she took a certain amount of damage in the previous turn, as she's been teaching a few hermits to counter-crit in PvP recently.
Yeah, that's a good option, too. Nice
That Super Rare Etho/Netherite Armor combo is beastly. My goodness.
Thats 2 ultra rare stacked together. If its not strong it will be quite sad.
Like a certain beef card.
I would like to suggest to have a card called the debug stick serving as a direct counter to the lead so you replace your cards that were moved and I think it fits the theme of the expansion
Yes
Not gonna lie, beef is actually a great player at THE GAME HE MADE. Really close to win etho there
Edit: also I rewatched the clip where they forgot to roll for deathloop, and right after that beef got a chance to roll for slab. Guess what? Beef rolled a red in his first roll! Which means scar would be knocked out regardless
The roll at 20:25 (for anyone's information)
actually it meant everything would've been one order out, meaning that last time skip would have been a red, which could've let beef win the game. Still an amazing match all in all!
Guys if he'd given his builder items to rendog instead of beef, he could've used yolo with the efficiency book then he could've switched back to etho and taken out another hermit ez
@@InferiorRaven77 it's no use. By the time beef already lost two hermits, yolo would straight up make him lost
@@DarkValorWolf also the game would've been 2-2 with beefs bow knocking out the iskall card. Really would've loved to see the game play out smoother but all in all good game by both of them
As tragic as the scar thing is, just like in real TCG games, if both players and the GM miss/forget something then there is no takebacks, you just lose it.
Gg though, such a tense game
if it's still possible to rewind to the moment it happened, then sometimes they will. But in this case the game had progressed way too far beyond it, every move being informed by the board state and what cards were drawn etc. There's just no rewinding that.
Ahhh I was like waiting to see it cos Ive seen that card in play before
Doc vs Etho is going to be INTENSE!
💯 😓👍
It can end first turn from any side😂.
Spoilers!
@@Wardenboi why the fk are you reading comments lol
@@sinclaircupcake4954 was the first comment under video, didn’t even open comments
Good match! You got Etho sweating so much, I honestly was expecting an early knockout after hearing he went for the "crush Beef" deck.
To be fair etho did get extremely bad rolls, the 3 cards he needed to win the game instantly were the last 3 he would've rolled. With odds in favour this could've been a 7-8 move game.
we almost had another thing to add to the list of things that proved etho is washed up
I'm glad he went with the good deck I want to see how far he can go in the tournament
Yea. Etho still had some leeway i can tell, but beef did pushed him quite hard.
Glad to see Speedrunners will be playable now! The Jingler looks fun too
There has been SOOO MUCH etho content recently and I'm so here for it.
An etho alternative card called “ladders” where the 2 moves are “I go up” and “I go down” etho can’t attack the currently active hermit. His moves only hit the guy above or below the active hermit depending on the move.
Oh this is a hilarious idea! I imagine a good counter would be moving to the bottom slotted hermit
Beef held up pretty great against Etho, I feel like Doc vs Etho will just come down to who can draw their Stress and Efficiency first that'll be interesting to see.
Also I'm still hoping Batralis will be part of the Alter Ego packs I feel like there's some interesting moves you could do with him
there was also a GOATman alter ego in a a doc episode. Maybe Batralis and GOATman could have a special that requires both alter ego hermits to work.
Don't forget Zedaph's Worm Man in the alter-ego pack!
I think Ezed Kineezed would be more appropriate for the current season. He's pulled that one out a few times. Arrow catch could be a defensive special by preventing arrows/crossbows from working.
@@HerculePyro Honestly, I'm just praying for Maid Zedaph but I know I won't get it. The strong move would be `Body Pillow` referring to the best piece of merch ever released from the HC server. 😂
You may also be somewhat relieved to know that your first coin flip after Scar was knocked out was red so he wouldn’t have been revived anyway!
That's not exactly how randomization works. What the RNG of the game would have decided in that moment is not the same as what the RNG was several seconds later. It's two different points in time. That's probably the most egregious mistake I've seen all tournament, but for what it's worth, I think Etho's deck beats Beef's deck 9 times out of 10, anyhow.
@@mapwheel00 He has the same odds no matter what point in time he rolls. It doesn't matter if I roll a dice now or 5 years from now. I will always have 1/6 chance of rolling a 4.
@@-_-TJde BatBeard's arguement wasn't what the odds were; BatBeard's argument was that if the roll had happened, it would have been red, which is not necessarily true.
@@mapwheel00 I wasn't commenting on BatBeard's argument. I was commenting on the fact that you stated the RNG would be different because it was a different point in time. RNG doesn't care about time. Beef rolled once at the end of the game for Scar's ability and got red. Done.
Aside from the little discussions of statisticy and rng stuff down here, this is enough to let me brush it off with peace of mind lol, what happened happened, and considering this it basically feels like the Scar never rolled a green is all that happened, the agonizing bit is just not knowing 100% that it wouldn’t have
You’re probably sick of hearing it by now… but still congrats on creating this game Beef! You made a game the likes of which has rarely been seen in Minecraft. Being able to create these situations (like in this match) which are so intense and thrilling is just absolutely fenomenal!
the way my heart sunk when no one called to roll for death loop... I dare say you might have beaten etho if it had gone off. I'm one of etho's commenters who said to go all out against you, and I'm glad I did. It ended up being a much more exciting match in the end! The ultra rare etho is better than I imagined it would be. You did a great job beefers
I feel like the play would've been to use TNT instead of bowing Iskall. Even if you hit 0 rolls on Etho's slab, Xisuma would've been down to 40 so even if Etho had swapped, it would've been a guaranteed bow kill on X in the next round. And if you hit 2 rolls on slab like you did, X is dead combined with the TNT and you hide the fact that you have bows in your deck.
Almost all of the time i've seen them use bow, its not used strategically. More often than not its being used to damage an afk hermit that wouldnt be brought out anyway.
Tnt play would have been the game changer. Even rolling only once would knock out Xisuma due to the type advantage
I saw this play too but it's easier to see those kind of missed plays as an unstressed third party. Beef did really well.
Although I really hope that all the hermits will figure out that the bow should only be used when you have a high chance of knocking out the AFK hermit that turn or the turn after. Using the bow as a "damage an AFK hermit for the hell of it" card is kind of a waste.
ya. Beef had three choices: no singe use, bow and tnt. He chose the only option that didn't lead to a knockout. tnt would've killed x with one green, and if he played neither but got all greens, he'd've knocked x out next turn with his bow.
Yeah i had the same thought
Can't say enough beef.. this has been absolutely mind blowing.. your an amazing creator.. thank you bro
Your thumbnails are always top tier, Beef! My Submissions page is really just a wall of minecraft videos and yours noticably stand out from all the others. I can tell in a glance when you have a new video and always look forward to the next one!
The Jingler's deception sounds a little disadvantegous for whoever uses it, you'll never want the opponent to hit your AFK hermits xd
The TCG became such a big part of HC, it feels like it was always around! And then I realise it won’t be there next season and it makes me sad. You’re really carrying this point of the season Beef, some Hermits seemed to be slowing down a bit, then TCG came around and it inspired many for new projects!
This was such a close match. But I knew it was over when Etho used the chest; he was getting back the efficiency book he used earlier, and not a golden apple. That's also why he switched that turn just to make absolutely sure you couldn't get him on what he knew would be your last turn. But yeah, I know you're dissapointed but this was an incredibly fun, close match!
Watching the Wells stay on active instead of AFK really did my OCD in
Is it bad that I'm eye-twitching at Beef putting lime dye on Jevin's name? lol
Beef, I joked on twitter that if any hermits asked you to make another TCG on season 10 (you know coz it's back breaking work lol)...but look at you not even on season 10 and making new cards 😂you are a madman. Amazing work tho, all the hard work is very much appreciated.
I think a different sort of board game would be a good idea, a tcg game with different rules would be fun down the line but there's so many games that could be played on item frames. Perhaps battleships could be played in a similar fashion!
Lets not talk season 10 lol.
I hate it when they change seasons. All those hardwork down the drain.
People built games that hardly got played and changed to new seasons. Really heart breaking.
For example etho and bdubs horse course, pvp arena. For example tango's decked out. Sure alot of ppl played decked out, but its backbreaking work and changing the season is just such a pity.
Or tango's among us game
@@ionmeth2031 nah, i replied to Keralis' tweet then and joked that the hermits should tell beef to redo it in s10 (as a joke coz it took him ages) Keralis said "yes TCG 2.0" and beef "liked" it lol... tis ok, multiple hermits said s9 is not anywhere near done
Fire charge could be return to sender! Sends whatever negative effect the opponent puts onto you back to the opponent ^^
I’m a simple man. I see etho in the title I click.
*click*
Click
Saaame
I mean, Etho is washed up though
I'll 1 up you I see hermitcraft I click
Really been looking forward to this episode. Doc v Cub was incredible. And Etho v Bdubs was so intense and hilarious. This is such a great game Beef.
The game was so close! A super fun game to watch, so many small decisions or a little bit of different luck could’ve totally changed the game.
This new card packing is coming along so well. I love them!
I watched back, and for extra piece of mind the next rocket that was fired after you lost scar was actually red, so even if you hadn't forgotten he wouldn't have come back. Great game Beef!
46:00 - "The blocks above them are lower" - trying to wrap that one around my head. :D
I love that your bringing old video ideas back! Keep up the amazing work, we love you!!!!!!
Not only was the toss at the end red, the next toss after Scar being knocked out (the first slab toss) was also red so unfortunately death loop wouldn't have happened even then :/ Great game nonetheless and you did really great especially considering Etho was using his "crush Beef" deck
Beef, if you make a Tango alter ego with his ice skin. His special move could be to freeze all hermits on the board for 1 or 2 turns, where both players only can add and use items but can’t change or attack for those turns. Basically a way to draw more cards and prep more but for both players.
Valiant effort Beef!
I think the Command Block could have a tag like "Creative" which means it cant be affected by cards after its placed. This could open the door for stuff like a barrier block or end portal frame to have a consistent theme.
I'm not as big a fan of the fire charge at the moment. I think having a card that exists only to discard one of your own cards is something that won't ever make the cut into a deck.
11:49 Etho recognizes False Supremacy? Smart man 👸🏼 ⚔️
Etho attaching "Joe" to the board really threw me for a loop lol
Beef, this game has been one of my favourite things in Hermitcraft in years. There has been so much amazing content but the dedication you have put into this is just insane!
As a Dedicated Etho Fan, we absolutely destroy our friends, we go easy on acquaintances.
This has been soooooo awesome Beefers... I've been around from close to the start of mindcrack.. its all full circle, love to see where you n bdubs, ketho,. doc n all u guys on the server are at now. much love thanks for the content my friend northeast of Detroit
Ok ngl great intro giving a clue as to the structure of the episode. Public speaking experts agree.
Love the episodes. Been watching for like 10 years… cheers
So impressed with everything the hermits have done with HTCG. All thanks to you Beef!
I know it’s a bit early to talk about more expansion packs, but you could make an entire set based around the server game of demise! Love the videos on TCG, and my lord you are making some awesome cards!
you could give the command-block the effect, that if someone uses a lead or curse of vanishing on it, both players get to use the effect of that card. Or all cards the hermit had attached will either be discarded or returned to the hand. That would leave a lot more room for strategies than just making it impossible to remove the card
I love all the new cards! This tournament is really fun to watch too!
What a great TCG match. And for piece of mind Beef, the next roll after your Scar got knocked out was red at 20:33. If it was green I would've contemplated a rematch.
Etho’s hearthstone grinding is really showing holy cow. The way he just strangles opponents is like watching magnus carlson play chess. Absolutely the front runner. Well done Beef. You fought hard.
In Etho's last video when he asked us whether he should build a farm deck with the rare iskall to counter your deck, I knew you had the UR Etho and I was so excited to see that catch him off guard. Such a good match.
Before I watch this, I just wanna say that is such an iconic thumbnail. The meme potential is outstanding, it is utterly fantastic lol
I’m so glad that game was a good one! It was worth seeing the whole game.
@33:00 Gratz on remembering Death Loop! But just like American Football, if there is a play/turn after the goof-up. Too bad so sad.
@19:10 You use Death Loop, then Etho knocks him out but you didn't use the Death Loop special ability to coin toss to revive... sigh
Funny how X was like peace I gotta do some things then you can see him sitting up in the stands. xD
Idea: You should add a build/creation card that has a lot of health but can't go afk and counts as 2 hermets when knocked out (maybe you can also only have one in your deck)
Cards it can be are
-tnt cannon
-wither
-iron golem
-arrow dispenser
TCG is the most amazing addition to Hermitcraft!!
One effect card that could be useful could be a straight “nope” card. Be an immediate play and it will nope any effect or attack, any effect will be put to the discard as used, and if used for an attack would also nullify any effect attached to the discard. Example would be the yolo using an efficiency effect etho used, the yolo would not happen and the efficiency card would be discarded.
I love the pause, look back and forth "No comment?" full of confusion
I have lost count of the amount of times I've watched a game of this and thought to myself.... That was the best game I have seen
Tango Alter Ego special ability. Decked Out - On heads, opponent discards one card. Can be a discard from hand or draw and immediately discard.
The theme song is way too happy for how intense these games are. Gonna make a metal mix brb
Really enjoying the tcg chaos and longer episodes, thank you beef
Beef, we love the TCG! One of the best things ever created in Minecraft. Good Job! What about making an effect card, like a rocket or something, that allows your active Hermit to flee becoming afk and you can switch to a new active Hermit but still attack with the new active Hermit. Kinda the opposite of the chorus fruit. Sort of an alter ego.
hey beef!!
there should be an equipment card in the expansion pack that punishes someone for attacking. for example 'wolf pack' when hit with an attack it would do a residual amount of damage back to that hermit. i think it would really create some tension around choosing attacks and would promote switching hermits. could make things interesting!
WOAH! CUB WAS THE JINGLER THIS WHOLE TIME!? IT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE!!
Here's some effect card Ideas: Creeper - does 30 damage to all hermits and discard one item from both active hermits, Allay - attach one discarded single item to active hermit.
I think fire charge would be better as an AoE. Area of Effect. Maybe 30 damage to active hermit and 20 to the adjacent hermits. It fits in the theming of placement
The "make anything disappear on your side" effect would go better with a cactus
Sadly, the fire charge map has already been built. It would suck if Beef could not use it in the end.
@@jedaguilar3459 it could be used to set any active or AFK hermit on fire though, if Beef decided to go with a cactus.
Maybe cactus could be one item of choice for active hermit and fire charge could remove one item from active opponent and one item from adjacent afk hermits but fire charge would be ultra rare. removing 3 item cards in one move would be very powerful.
Thank you for these videos Beef, they keep me smiling the whole time
Here's a thought: Suspicious stew.
Equippable effect card, has a random effect that activates when the hermit it's attached to takes damage.
This would mean you'd have to make a handful, but at least you don't have to remake the image many times.
Beef! Not sure if anyone else pointed it out yet or not but I noticed at the very end you made the Jevin sign lime green instead of the regular green by accident! As I know how much of a perfectionist you can be I wanted to bring it to your attention. Love all the content and the cards.
That was just an incredible game Beef. If you had to lose you fought tooth and nail! Be proud
Etho was so smart he used chest to get efficiency to yolo with Stress.
Did he play an efficiency before? I can't rmb
@@ca-ke9493 first attack?
Beef alterego of this season: THE COLLECTOR
How about a re-match! Anyway, you lost but at least you did entertainingly! I'm proud, both of you!
That ultra etho is a beast lol.
Beef you did real well this game. I am so impressed
You could add a "creative" card text to the Command Block card, which makes the card with "creative" ignore any and all effects that would otherwise affect the card.
14:20 almost made me spit out my cereal 😂
Losing at games you invent is a good sign actually. It means the games you're making aren't just about knowing the rules and secrets to win.
I'd like to give an idea for a special move.
It would have the potential to be extremely strong, but would need a huge amount of setup:
Every AFK hermit on your team do an attack that they have unlocked (Cleo's special can copy someone that has no itens on them, this one can't), but the special effects of those attacks don't happen (you don't get Well's extra damage from his life colour, you can't steel things with Grian's special, etc, you only do the marked damage).
What en epic battle! I was stressed out amd I wasn't playing.
It's so great to see, how the tournament-rules evend out the playingfield.
Let's goo, love all the tcg content beef. thank you!!
That was an amazing match! So sad about the Scar mishap, but y’all played it like champs! Talked thru it, manned up and owned it as a group 🖤™️ Y’all set a great example for gamers everywhere
If it gives you any peace of mind, the button press directly after the scar knockout was actually red so the outcome would have been the same.
Suggestions for cards:- Mess with the values if required
A-Dwarfpulse ( Impulse ) Miner Type
1. Dwarf Vision - 40
Reveals 2 of the opponent's cards if heads
2 Dig - 90
B- Cleaning Lady (Pearl) Balanced type
1. Clean - 40
2. Dumpster Diving - 80
If heads draw two cards
C -Beacon (Attached Effect Card) - Can introduce different effects on this using seperate cards(Ultra rare)
•Speed Beacon - if heads hermit evades attack
•Regeneration Beacon - Heals 20 hp every turn/ heals 40 hp if heads
•Strength Beacon - Does + 40 damage if heads
All beacons count as a beacon so only one per deck if only 1 ultra rare is allowed in a deck
In the scenario where someone plays scar and powers him up, I think it's on that person to then activate the move. Realizing it after the fact probably shouldn't do any good, because it is still a move you need to actively play. That said, you did great! You had him on the ropes towards the end! Great game! =)
Adding a companion “hermit” card like a dog, Jelly, parrot, etc would be cool to see added. To add an interesting element, they could be low hp cards that are always afk, but assist the active hermit. This could add another layer of strategy with your card placement expansion pack.
I hope ladders will be an alter ego, maybe give him synergy with a ladder card or something, maybe he could attack on the same turn he switched in because he uses ladders to switch in? Def would be explorer type
vintage beef my all time fav Minecraft yt channel i found u again!!
thats crazzy
and i missed allot content.
mindcraft definitely my all time favorite series.
bring it back!
Etho’s tournament matchups are quite a lot of folks from Mindcrack. Bdubs, Beef and now Doc.
I think the game went the way that neither of you had expected but it was really interesting to see how both of you adjusted on your feet and it was a very close match! GG!
And just for your peace of mind: the very next coin flip that happend right after Scar was knocked out, was red. So it would not have made a difference anyway. Kinda lucky that the mistake didn't cause further trouble so the result still stands but yeah it probably always bothers the player knowing that something could have made a difference.
you know what might be interesting? Team Cards, make them like the boomers ability where their moves get powered up per member of the team on the board and you would eneable some interesting theme decks that could be cool.
Beef, if you want to put the composter card controversy to rest, my suggestion is to reword it so that the player may discard up to 2 cards, and for every card discarded, draw a replacement. It makes the card more flexible but with a smaller benefit, as compared to the flint and steel, and it would reduce the chance of mistakenly trying to use the card. It also makes it function more like a Minecraft composter.
one suggestion I'd like to make - I feel like it'd be nice to have a counter to the lead. make it a higher rarity, probably, but moving items on your own playfield would be an interesting add to strategies, even if you can only have like one of them in the deck. maybe a piston effect?
Alternatively, maybe it could return things to your hand from the board? That way you would need to do the swap over two turns, which would make it less powerful and more of a risk.
I’m glad you feel your hard work over the last year has more than paid off. It’s one thing for your audience to tell you this; it’s another for you to internalize it.
As the tiny minority of Etho’s audience that did not want him to crush you but instead to have a fun game instead, I’m glad your match with Etho was so close. Fantastic edge of the seat gameplay. It’s a shame not one of you remembered Scar’s special move until much later, but it was worse that you left your Wels right side up in the active position despite him being afk the whole time ;p
GG on the match!!
The match was so close! With the tournament rules, it really is balance imo! GG! Loving the new cards!
I went back to see if the next rocket after scar being killed hit, and it did not he wouldn't have been revived if you guys had remembered. 19:55 - 20:35