Sailboat Upgrades - New Anchor Roller
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- Опубликовано: 18 июн 2024
- ALL about installing a Sailboat Anchor Roller
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Bought myself mid 70's Venture (MacGregor) 25 and refitting it. You're videos are very helpful! Lots of good ideas. Currently working on rewiring a mix of original and very sketchy electrical mods done in the past (it's a miracle this boat didn't burn up). New shore power setup with a couple of AC outlets and an on board charger is done. Next up is adding a second battery, finish converting to LED, and will soon be installing a new electrical panel, solar, etc.. I'll be tackling the anchor setup at some point, and trying to organize the gallery a little better. Thanks for ideas and inspiration!!
I've not commented before on these videos but I just had to for this one. I recently acquired an 88 26d and watching you attack the same jobs I do is both entertaining and informative. The reason I'm finally taking the time to type something is my very next project is installing the exact same anchor roller on the bow of my own boat! Watching you grind off the bit that I was too scared to grind myself, I actually yelped when you touched the rail with the grinder; way WAY more guts than me. Respect to you and Aloha from Hawai`i! S/V Windflower
Aloha Pez!! Thanks for taking the time to comment and for watching all this time! Sometimes you just need to suck it up and go after it! Analyze it from every angel first to try and figure out what all the possible outcomes will be and how you would approach each of them. When you have a plan for all the outcomes it becomes less scary! Luckily the actual outcome of grinding the bump down was not the worst case I had thought of and it was a relatively easy job! And the end result is a fantastic anchor system! I hope I have inspired you to go forward with your project! Please check out the facebook page and start sharing what you're doing with your own boat there. I would really like to start growing the community there and having it become more interactive and engaging!
That water fill need a clamp, little more bedding needs to be used under deck hardware, I recommend butyl tape. The anchor roller needs more support then that small pc of starboard. I recommend a pc of aluminum plate twice as big as your starboard pc. And search eBay and online for boat parts, you’ll find them cheaper then at Amazon. Good job!
Good tips Jeffery. I wasn’t too worried about a hose clamp on the fill because it was such a tight fit to begin with and don’t plan on having the hose fill up with water (on purpose at least!) just the tank. So the hose is basically just a long funnel.
My '88 26D has a deck leaking problem when it rains. I've been gradually re bedding all the deck hardware and it definitely improved the situation. Still getting a little water in the bilge and on the floor inside, so gotta get the rest done. I really like using butyl tape instead of silicone. No mess, easy to re-do if needed, and works great. I built a 3' long bowsprit from a piece of oak I had for my anchor roller. It fits in front of and around the rigging plate and cleat. Gotta get one of those chain pin brackets you used. Nice to learn what the boat is made of from your work. I was cringing watching you grind into it dude.
Lol, I had to work up the courage over a while, I wanted the roller since I got the boat but that problem always scared me off. But after sailing a few times without one I realized t just had to be done so I went after it. I considered the sprit idea but read at some point that technically “adds length” to your boat (which potentially means costing more $ for a slip at a marina if that’s something we end up doing) also just a $ thing. It was a lot cheaper to grinding a little bit off than to add a sprit. I also always for get to order that tape and can’t find it in the store, so I always end up resorting to just grabbing sealant from Walmart or Home Depot.
Doh! You're right, I guess I have a 27.5D then.
Lol yes you do! Oh I forgot to ask if you sealed the chainplates yet? That’s where 90% of the water was coming in with mine.
You have a lot of patients my friend.
Great job!!!
It gets tested every day Bob! Thanks for watching!
I see where you cut (on the inside for bolt access) sharp square corners beginning at about the 6:38 mark. That's a big "no-no". Those sharp corners create stress risers and cracks in the fiberglass WILL propagate from those sharp corners. If you have to cut openings in the fiberglass, try to cut as large a radius in the corners as you can.
Good tip thanks
You're a natural!
The rain really seems to gravitate towards you. Better put a dodger on your boat as well. ;)
A dodger would be kinda cool actually!
I had to cut and mount a 12 inch round hatch that looks great now
I have a 1984 MacGregor 25
Sometimes you get what you pay for!
Great add ons
Thanks DJ!
Nice job the ground tackle, Dude.
Thanks as always Uncle Bob!
This channel is aweeeeesome!!!! Hey when I get my 26 can I bring her by for some upgrades? Lol, totally subscribed!!!
Way to go. Keep it up
Thanks Ed!
Nice Job, I think Butyl Tape is a better sealant, but it looks like a great job to me!
I gotta get me some of that. I always forget to order I though, then when I need it no place sells it around here.
Nice job! I think all the MacGregor boats had that forward bulkhead with no access. I cut large openings there in both Mac 25s I've owned. Once you're done working up there, you'll want to make a door or cover for the new opening. I'm not sure about your boat, but mine stores the anchor rode in the space forward of that bulkhead. Although it would be easy to make a cover that sits on the cabin side of the hole, it begs to leak just a bit of the mucky water that comes up on the anchor line and I'm always thinking about how it might come loose and let the anchor chain come tumbling into the bed while i sleep. So on the current boat, I have three pieces of wood that can go through the hole one at a time and sit just forward of the bulkhead. The little bit of bulkhead left at the sides serves as a flange that won't let my boards go any farther back towards the cabin.
I drilled some holes in the flange area (what was left of the bulkhead) and ran screws through the holes and into the new wood pieces so they are held flush to the bulkhead but forward of the bulkhead instead of on the cabin side. This doesn't let any moisture from the anchor line to enter the Vee birth and there is no way it can come loose and fall into the vee birth either. I left mine like that, but you might want to make a decorative cover to go on the cabin side so you aren't looking at the cut fiberglass at the edges of your new access hole. My boat is pretty utilitarian, but you have done a wonderful job of making yours look beautiful as you improve it.
I also have a nearly identical bow roller. Its so much more convenient to store the anchor up there and just let it go when you want to drop anchor.
Good ideas for covering that hole up there. That will be "the kids bed" so they can deal with the wet muck from the anchor rode! HA! But in all serious that is a good point I never considered and some kind of water tight hatch should be made. Maybe a cover that is bordered with a rubber gasket that can be tightened to the bulk head with a few bolts coming from the forward side of it poking through to the v berth then tightened up with some wing nuts. And yes it makes a WORLD of a difference having a proper roller now. I really should have done it a long time ago but didn't want to tackle the problem of the forestay and that small bump getting in the way. My power boat it was just a matter of slapping it on there and didn't take as much problem solving.
Before you cover the hole, think about getting an electric windlass to raise the anchor. I run my boats single handed and I always hated anchoring because I can only control the boat from the back but need to control the anchor from the front. So I have to let the motor idle while I go forward to drop anchor and the boat just goes wherever it wants to go until I have the anchor down. Its worse recovering the anchor because the boat drifts as soon as the anchor is off the bottom and it takes me a while to get the anchor back on deck. Inevitably the only thing I can do with the rode is pile it up on deck because feeding it down the hole to the anchor rode locker would leave the boat drifting free too long. People who come up and anchor behind me have no idea what danger they are in.
An electric windlass lets you drop anchor and raise the anchor with a switch back in the cockpit where you can control the boat and raise anchor at the same time. I bought a nice Lewmar windlass thinking it would be an easy install above the existing anchor locker (that space forward of the bulkhead you just cut). When it arrived, the instructions said that the rode needs at least two feet vertical drop from where the windlass goes through the deck to the top of the pile of rope or chain. If there isn't this much free fall space, the windlass is likely to jam, which makes you run forward and haul up the anchor by hand while the boat drifts aimlessly all over again.
The space forward of the existing bulkhead is too small. It might be a bit over 2 feet to the bottom of the anchor locker, but the rope is going to quickly pile up till there is less than two feet to the top of the pile. So my solution is to move the bulkhead back just a bit. Six or eight inches should be enough. I'll also cut away the fiberglass bed base forward of where the new bulkhead will be so the rode locker goes all the way to the bottom of the boat. There will be a little divider directly below the new bulkhead so rode can't snake sternward in the bilge and get hung up so it doesn't deploy smoothly. Its not a small job, but since you have to do something with the forward bulkhead now anyway, its easier to do now instead of re-doing it a year later as I did.
The windlass is already installed in the deck (and sticking into the very forward part of the vee berth) but I got started on the new boat before moving the bulkhead on the sailboat. I have already installed a free-fall windlass on the new boat. One of the few things I've learned from experience on the boat is that you definitely want one of these to raise anchor for you if you are alone on the boat. If you get a windlass, you should also invest in a special rode for it. You want 8-plait rope which has a special weave like braided hair that lets the rope stay soft and it piles up much flatter than normal braided or three strand ropes. The windlass will specify a type and size of chain and diameter of rope. You get a rode with the specified chain size spliced to the specified rope size (and make sure you're getting 8-plait rope) and it runs through the windlass smoothly and never jams.
Oh man I would love one but that is just a luxury that is way out of my budget (I’ll need a few more subscribers at least! Lol) I got a good pair of sperry’s for my birthday though that let me be pretty nimble running back and forth on the deck, lol!
cool! good job.
Thanks!
Sailing FreeStyle I've been watching your channel since the beginning! Coming along nicely! I've been striving to grow my channel over the last couple years. Definitely a tough game! I'm going to add you to the featured channels section on my page. If you get a chance and want to reciprocate, that would be amazing! I actually have a 26d I'm going to be doing some videos on soon. Thanks!
Cool I’ll check it out!
Awesome job! The anchor roller looks like it was made to be there! You mentioned on your other boat you installed an anchor roller as well. I have a 21' Rinker cuddy cabin boat currently. It has always been a pain getting to the front of boat on deck and set our anchor so I have also thought about adding an anchor roller. Right now we are using a danforth at the front, and often a second navy anchor in the back. We tend to drag anchors since we are out in Lake Erie just south of the Detroit River that has a decent current. I have considered using a different anchor like the Bruce Claw anchor you have with an anchor roller, is that what your using on your power boat? Do you like it? Any advice on anchoring?
My other boat is actually an 18 foot walk around cuddy with a Merc 150. Install was pretty easy on that with no forestay to work around or any weird humps in the deck. As long as you have access to the underside ( I ended up cutting a hatch for an anchor locker right there so access was pretty easy for me too). I do also have a Bruce on the other boat. I’m mostly on lakes around here and found that a danforth sucks in lakes because the bottom is usually rock and deadfall and old stumps, just lots of stuff to get hung up on. I actually had to cut one off before. I always use mushrooms on my other boats so I figured the Bruce was a happy medium. You can just drop it and let it sit there like a mushroom if you’re just hanging out swimming for a little while, or you can use it like a normal anchor and set it if you have some decent ground, and have something you can can spend the night on. I think it make a big difference what the bottom is like, and you just gotta really make sure you’re setting it good by throwing the boat in reverse and pulling on it until you can “feel” it set.
Where did you get your bow spirit?
Ok been watching you since I bought my 27 foot Catalina about the same time you got your boat and I sail it outta New Bedford now.. Some people dont realize the frustrating hours it takes trying to turn a screw you cant quite reach or taking apart the interior 8 times to run an electrical cord out of the way. All the while sweating buckets and getting in your own way cuz yeah, theres a ton of room in there right? Therefore , I have bought your shirt on Amazon because I know the efforts and crap you gotta go through haha. Keep the videos comin buddy see ya soon =)
Hey thank you so much Rob, that really means a lot!! We were just out your way on vacation actually last week! We stay on the west side Buttermilk Bay right on the boarder if Wareham and Bourne. Nice little sky line over the bay with the Bourne and RR Bridge. Any public boat launches in your area you would recommend where you could leave your truck over night? I would like to plan a little adventure for later this year before the season is over somewhere in the sound. I found somewhere in Branford CT that looks promising, there’s some cool looking islands to explore right there. also old saybrook has a really nice ramp but not sure how the RR bridge works or what the clearance is on it. But it would be nice to get some local knowledge if you had some for your area. I’m looking to do 2 maybe 3 nights with a couple buddy’s. A different spot each night. I threw around the idea of even doing a Long Island sound crossing (kinda nervous about that though but it would be such an epic adventure for a noob like me!) the plan I threw together last night was to launch out of Branford, then motor eastward island exploring to Clinton Harbor, beach or anchor the boat there and spend the night. Then day 2 cross the sound south east towards plum island and circle around there then spend the night anchored at Truman Beach, then the next day either go explore west and anchor a 3rd night on Long Island before crossing back to Branford or cross back to old saybrook that day and see if we can pick up a mooring there before going back west down the CT coast.... what do you think? Too ambitious? What options do you have further east out in your direction? Have you done anything like that yet?
Man I love that epic adventure type stuff keep me in mind lol ! Im in NH my boat is down there on a mooring and myself every weekend so I dont know the waterways like some other viewers may. Also my sailing experience may be just a hair more than yours so Im no professional either yet. But I am heading to Cuttyhunk in September for 2 weeks so thats my adventure planned !
That’s awesome! I’m planning for some time in the week of sept 23-29 so maybe I’ll see you out there!
Thats sweet. Ill be around =))
What is that blue chain bag? Where can you get one of those?
Wojciech Stepien he made that in one of his earlier videos.
Yes that is a Sailing FreeStyle original custom piece right there!
Nice job! but try to use a vacuüm cleaner when drilling, sanding and never blow. Because you inhale too! Very bad for you and your garden.
I am adding a bow roller on my 1993 Mac to hold my Danforth anchor. I made a 32" bowsprit from 2 pieces of 3/4" x 3 1/2" oak that are laminated together. I removed the bow light and added new lights on the sides of the bow. The bowsprit fits over the chainplate. I cut away a little of the bowsprit to attach the jib clevis pin. Now I will be able to operate the anchor from the cockpit. I'll post a little video of it in early October.
ruclips.net/video/D3EtUl1KiVc/видео.html
Better than factory new.
Thanks Kips Journey!
Another bunch of project completed and doesn't it feel great!? You always seem to have an upbeat attitude when you are working on her(assume you will name it after one of your girls: wife, daughter of mother) but don't show much emotion when you are done. I think that is what you call having a positive attitude! Such a great sailboat you are refitting to your liking.
I must have that attitude because I ENJOY doing this! I really wish I could find a way to make working on boats (or ANYTHING to do with boats) my full time job. Every day I leave my real job more and more stressed and exhausted and full of negativity. My boat projects are where I go to get away from all that and keep my mind occupied with things I actually enjoy. Thanks for the kind comment.
The red stuff??
Or the blue stuff?
Sailing FreeStyle the red stuff on the inlet. Loctite?
Ohhhh lol! For the life of me I could not figure out what you were talking about! It’s a little bit of grease because that hose was just a tiny bit too small for that inlet. Just needed a bit luuuuuuuubrication to help get it on there. Then the white stuff was some sealant Incase I forget to turn the hose off when filling it up!
Like a surgeon...
Madona had a song about that, right??
Yes it’s about me.
Sailing FreeStyle
Great channel!!
Nice Safety Glasses ( not to Smart )
Hi Vernon, first thanks for watching the video and taking the time to comment. While I appreciate that and welcome any helpful tips, I ask that you do it in a less sarcastic and insulting way. For example this would have been a much better way to convey your thoughts: “Hey Ryan, I really love your channel and enjoy watching these videos! I noticed that you weren’t wearing any safety glasses and was just a little concerned, you seem like a great guy and I would hate to see something terrible happen to you because of an unexpected accident. Anyway glad everything has been ok thus far and keep up making these awesome videos!” And just for you... spoiler alert in an upcoming video where I give my little shop an overhaul... I ordered some brand new safety glasses! Now I just need to get in the habit of wearing them and I’m sure you’ll sleep much better at night.
It is spelled "too" not "to". Not much of a scholar yourself huh?
Not trying to be a jerk as I dig your vids but why are you using zip ties on deck? Not bad on lakes but if you plan on getting salty - you need to secure things with synthetic rigging like Dyneema. Just sayin'... Check this out: ruclips.net/video/o4J4hJoJFHg/видео.html
No offense taken. I think zip ties will hold up just fine for a long time no mater what kind of water you’re in. They’re just plastic, and just holding a bag in place, nothing safety related. I’m not concerned about it at all. But thanks for watching and commenting!
Nice job! but try to use a vacuüm cleaner when drilling, sanding and never blow. Because you inhale too! Very bad for you and your garden.