nothing is ever engineered to be the strongest, toughest, best thing ever. that would be much too expensive. things are designed to do their job. power armour lets you carry tank style weaponry, but a missile launcher or even a well-placed shot from a rifle could still take down a power armour clad person. we even see this in the game when we take down BoS/Enclave/Gunners/etc
Dude, the show absolutely tore up the universe of fallout. Lol he shot through t60 with a freaking revolver! Let's not forget this is made out of advanced meta materials that do not exist in our universe as material science and physics were far more advanced in their universe. Common body armor can stop a 44 magnum. Let's not forget the fact that they basically removed laser weapons and anything cool from the universe and basically just made it steam punk medieval knights, because they clearly didn't understand the universe of fallout
@@CD-CH-EBit’s not just a revolver it’s a gyro jet revolver, aka a literal bullet with a mini jet engine attached to the back of it. Also if you look at the models in game different power armors have gaps where you can see the frame itself which are weaknesses. So I don’t really see what your driving at dawg.
@@sawyurdikhof3641 according to the lore is made out of advanced composites, unless im mistaken. steel isnt very good at stopping bullets. it literally cannot be steel. 1.25 inches to stop a standard .50 cal round, not even armor piercing. Yes, the chinese would have armor piercing rounds. I mean, imagine spending billions only to be thwarted by armor piercing rounds because you used steel.
I was like "wait, but you didn't have to. You're thinking of 76." Then I remember that along with settlement objects, PA was the only thing you needed to repair
One thing to remember is that like tanks, power armored soldiers do need infantry support. Sure, they're easy to mass produce and allows for a singular soldier to be 2nd only to an MBT, but even a lone MBT is vulnerable to enemy infantry. So when they show power armored troops getting swarmed by ground troops, it's mainly because that soldier lacked proper support. Cooper was able to singlehandedly take out multiple due to his experiences in the Marine Corps.
@@BackyardDogPark9862 I don't care. I'm tired of hearing 'glory to Russia' and 'slava Ukraine.' I'm an American. Why should I care that two countries decide to kill each other, especially when both are autocratic dictatorships run by assholes who don't give a shit about anyone. Stop reminding me about some dumbass war that does not need me to know it's happening.
To me, the way the show portrayed the armor was fine. In the games, the player can still die in power armor, sometimes without any pieces breaking-that just tells me that the person inside is still a squishy meat bag that can only tank so much punishment
This. Spawling and fragments can kill a tank crew while leaving the vehicle itself relatively undamaged. Not to mention the concussive forces that can kill by rupturing the body. Aint a whole lot of space for blast force to go around in a suit of power armor.
Im pretty sure in 4 they do something similar usually you'll see power armor troops stay in front in patrols and during combat power armor soldiers rush the enemy and stand in front of allies
Power armor always had a weakness or a nerf. For example in Fallout 3 and New Vegas you were supposed to take power armor training, so that you were able to use the power armor. Then there was also the stats requirements, and armor condition. But in Fallout 4 the protagonist is a soldier, so he didn't need the power armor training, he was trained about 200 years ago. He had to be nerfed somehow, so they added the fusion cores. Now in Fallout 76 there's the fusion cores, and the armor condition.
@@chadharger9323 the logic is so goofy like fr at one point a jet engine didn't leave a scratch but a bullet from a pistol would damage the military suit
@@Flaroguy that's just a gameplay issue . In lore you should be able to resist most firearms but being invincible in a game with just a fusion core and a set of armor you can find pretty easily (not counting concord) would be overpowered . Ans the fev mutated creatures evolved to fight people in said armor or other very resistant creatures like mirelurks or deathclaws
I’m actually kind shocked anyone thought the shows’s power armor was ‘nerfed’, if anything it was OP. The strength increase in the games has been minimal for the most part, but in the show you can just crush skulls one handed.
I also imagine one of the perks of power armor is that it’s much more compact. The logistics of maintaining and repairing a tank require teams of people with lots of heavy equipment needed just to do repairs. Heck even replacing parts would require heavy machinery. The benefit of power armor is that more mechanics can be used for more machines. Parts are easier to transport to frontlines because they simply are smaller. Not to mention if a tank is destroyed you need heavy machinery to move. Power armor would just require a tow truck.
Not even. It's shown in fallout four that you need like... two people max to carry a whole set of power armor, one of them can even be wearing the frame. And if it runs out of power, it's shown that all that happens is you can't move quickly. That means it has some sort of mechanical backup system that allows it to be moved without electricity.
also all power armor we see is put on a universal (or atleast easily backwards-compatible) frame and the limbs and torso (helmet seperate obviously) are all switchable and able to be mixed with other pieces which makes replacement and repairing Much easier, since you can just take a piece off in some calm area to give it to somebody to repair while you put on a unused piece, even if its a different model
@@FOXCYBORGNINJAalso the ghoul seemed to need specialized ammo in order to pierce the armor in the first place, which doesn't seem to be what he had when fighting maximus
I enjoyed the fact that Cooper Howard actually used one during the battle of Anchorage and knew the suit's weakness then used that fact as a benefit during the fight at the observatory.
It was completely unnecessary lol. Its believable that the AP round from his magnum could make it through the flexible parts of the armor. Or the eyesockets, like Fo2. They didnt need that "oh you have to hit in one tiny spot, which no one else knows about." Also the arm jets are dumb. But i hope it was just bc making a jetpack prop would make it difficult to get in and out of the suit. Hope in the games the jetpack is still there.
@@absolutezerochill2700 definitely won't argue about the arm jets. That definitely didn't make sense whatsoever. Being that over 200 years have passed since the battle of Anchorage and considering that it's possible that the weaknesses of the power armor wasn't documented ( due to the Chinese spy ring could obtain any documents regarding the weaknesses and use that against the soldiers during the battle of Shanghai.) of course Cooper does discuss that topic with Bud Askins after the commercial shoot in Vault 4 and how those weaknesses got a lot killed during the battle of Anchorage.
@@herbthompson9530The suits of Power Armor were in possession of a techno-religious organization. They would have found the weak spot and fixed it a long time ago.
@@commanderAnakin I'm not so sure about that, Westech didn't document the weaknesses of the T series due to the possibility of losing the government contracts. Then one should look at how Knight Titus kept complaining about being sent out to recover advanced tech like "Toaster Ovens." Then one has to look at the Mojave chapter who has the "Archimedes Device" within their finger tips with two kids playing with the"C finder" and lost it all because they couldn't hold the solar power plant against the NCR and end up hiding in the Hidden Valley bunker while Elder Elisha plays dead and runs off to the Serra Madre only to end up trapping in an empty vault. Let's not forget that Frank Horrigan nearly wiped out the BOS in San Francisco. Then you have the DC chapter led by Elder Lions who basically went against the orders of the West Coast chapter of the BOS and started to help out the local population (to which I do admire) and really didn't go looking for advanced tech. If it wasn't for the "Lone Wanderer" they wouldn't even have fresh water leaving the Enclave to complete "Project Purity." To be honest if anyone would have found and fixed the problems with the T45/T51b/T60 power armor it would have been the Enclave except the Enclave created the X01/X02 and the Tesla/Hell Fire power armor that is far superior to the T series. Heck the BOS didn't even have those Vertibirds until the "Chosen One" retrieved the plans from Navarro. The DC chapter didn't have Vertibirds until the "Lone Wanderer" defeated the Enclave at the Andrews Air Base. The BOS did have Blimps they used for their travels east and of course losing a few in the Midwest on the way to DC. Yes in time the BOS did build the airship Prydwen after destroying "Rivet City." My point is that I myself do not have faith that the BOS had the documentation that described the weaknesses of the T series of power armor due to Westech not wanting those weaknesses to be known.
@@herbthompson9530 The entire goal of the BOS is to research and protect pre-war tech, and their members wear power armor. They would know about its weaknesses. They had post 2277 to 2296 to figure it out.
Several thoughts 1) I'm sure they didn't add jetpacks because it would be that much more to make said props, so in my head cannon some power armor has a kind of "hover" function as seen in the show vs the Jetpack in the game which gives limited flight/hover/jump. 2) Explosives have always been pretty good against power armor, especially on direct impact. As anyone who's used any of the firearms with the "Explosives" Perk can tell you, you'll blow parts right off the suit. 3) With number 2 in mind, I imagine the Ghoul combined knowing the Armors structural weakness along with special rounds similar to said Explosives perk. We even see him hold a spiked round, implying the punching power alongside exploding. 4) As great as Power Armor can be, it really depends on who's piloting the thing. Just your average joe hoping in power armor would be exceptionally different than someone who practically lives in the thing and knows its limitations. My 4 cents 🤓
tbh i dont care if any sorta armor will stand unbroken against an explosive or not, its still gonna bruise later if not hurt enough to do proper damage, same with something blunt like a really heavy hammer to the armor
@@Cthulhuwarlord I refer to the flying thingy, i really hope they just don't add it to every power armor, it's an unnecessary buff on my pointof view. I prefer the Fo4 style jetpack contraption
They didn’t Nerf the suit at all in fact, they made it stronger by implying that they all have built-in jet maneuvering busters. And if people are upset about the welding under the chest piece thing, in fallout four, you could shoot fusion core through the front of peoples armor if you had the right perk
F4 power armor isn't exactly lore accurate either as you could be killed by someone bare handed. Also the fusion cores themselves can power a building for well over 200 years and remain practically full but a power armor drains in in basically a few hours.
I assume the "Nerf" reffered to is the shitty weld right in the center of the T-60, and, admittedly, they could've found a better place to put the T-60's weakness where it would be less likely to get randomly hit during combat
The Ghoul wiping out those Brotherhood soldiers was no different than a courier walking in to the Hidden Valley bunker with That Gun and VATS. Lore accurate tbh
How was it nerfed? The Yao guai attack was bc the dude was a coward, and the chest weakness totally could only be known by pre war soldiers, aka Cooper and Nate
Except such a weakness that an item like power armor can be taken out with a lever action shotgun would never be allowed besides that most certainly the brotherhood of steel would be able to figure it out. The first member were all former United States soldiers.
@justnoob8141 There's so much you can to a bullet. Pack in more gun powder, make a harder tip, make a weaker tip with an explosive compound. Only so much can be done and I don't believe there's any modifications you could do to a bullet fired from a lever action. Add to much gun powder the whole weapon could explode because it can only handle so much emergy
Are you seriously telling me the US 1) Allowed a weakspot that can be pierced by small arms fire, on the chest of the T-45 where it would be hit FREQUENTLY by small arms fire in actual combat 2) Didn't fix this massive design flaw with the refined version, the T-60. Imagine if you could take out an entire tank with a single bullet and the military just said "ah well who cares"
Its a fair representation, as the ghoul was a soldier before the war and he knows the weaknesses of the armor, also a raider is not killing a person in power armor
And also the things it has faced so far are usually the end point for such suits, especially in the hands of someone who doesn’t know what they are doing.
My problem was that power armor already had a weakness, and they never mentioned it and instead made a new one that doesnt make too much sense. Power armor is weak to things like the pulse gun or an emp grenade not being shot in a spot, it piercing through, or causing some other type of damage.
Not everyone have laser gun and one of the power armor was literally killed by mortar shot, or rocket, dunno, it’s an explosion, under their feet Also, power armor is generally highly valued, energy weapon would ruin it
Fallout 1-2: you are basically Hercules, you can carry mosre stuff and withstand almost anything (except for some late game laser stuff but no biggie that what tesla armor is for) Fallout 3: idk Fallout 4: u just can carry more and have higher mobility with radiation protection and huge small arms protection, laser and grenades can still mess you up F76: repair that shi now
Heavy machine gun fire is known to penetrate power armour. Like he said, just like tanks, they aren't immune. They are designed and wielded to have a specific job
The only problem is lore wise they were built to mow down entire platoons and rip through tanks so getting taken down by raiders with shoddy weapons is unrealistic
Also like, the two main times we see power armor used in the season one, it was being piloted by someone who didn't know how to use it (Maximus) or someone who was having an intense emotional response and couldn't really react (aka, that frightful asshole of a knight Maximus had). So it's also that we just really haven't seen a good pilot in power armor yet (save episode eight, there was some badassery in that, if ykyk)
I feel as though people are getting the toughness of the T-51b mixed up with the other suits. The T-51b was meant to be a tougher but less manufacturable suit less common to other suits. But even then the suit still has limits with it's defences
I think the best comparison would be back when the army switched over from the M60 tank to the M1 tank. An M1 is better than an M60 in every regard but it was also much more expensive and it took time for the M60 to be fully phased out of service because of this.
The fun thing is that you can kill enemies with power armour in games, and it's not that difficult to do. Not to mention that, aplying a real life logic, power armors are pretty, stupid in some things. Like for example, you could easily be pushed back with something, fall on your back, and have to stop up again, that's something that will not happen to a tank.
The problem is they didn't really show the powered armor suit being used in the fashion it was meant to. The heaviest load you always saw it carry was the Assault Rifle from Fallout 4. Hell, when the Brotherhood Paladins went out with the Squires, they were the ones tasked with carrying all the stuff, which didn't make any sense.
Ah yes Power armor in the original games where you can be critically hit for 0 damage. Power armor was always supposed to be the most powerful force on the battlefield. The only way the Chinese could stop it in Anchorage was by turning their entire side into a pulse field to stop them.
Most peoples problem with the armor being ‘nerfed’ is more it being inconsistent, throwing cars like superman and crushing human skulls with ease. But getting your foot in some wood oops you’re stuck now, one ghoul firing 30 shots at you does nothing, but still cannot kill the ghoul because plot armor. 4 power armor soldiers vs 1 ghoul who couldn’t one earlier, nope he kills them like nothing. Also taking out the fusion core doesn’t make it so the suit essentially traps you, you are still able to easily exit it.
Yeah that bit went a bit too far. Like I do buy that the Ghoul who is a wasteland legend with past experience of power armour can solo or even take on a couple of knights knowing exactly where to hit but the idea he could solo a whole squad was always a bit too much. Plus all power armour had lights, why didnt they just use that?
I mean, putting in-universe explanations aside for a couple of seconds. Armored knight combat would end up in a series of grapples, until one knight falls to the ground, then the other knight slips a dagger in between the metal sheets. I think it would be thematically appropriate for power armor to have the same weakness, like once you're overwhelmed/a technical failure happens it's just a matter of time until someone finds a weakness. Also not related but I want to see the tribal power armor clad people in the fo2 loading screens in the show, I like the post war power armors like those and the hardened ncr armor
Yao Guai swipes once or twice at a BoS maintained power armor. Knight is fatally wounded. No amount of mental gymnastics can ever save this show from its own nonsense.
I remember reading some lore on the T-51b that just the _paint_ was bullet-resistant up to 5.56mm rounds. Like you needed at least a .308 to even scratch a suit of it.
Fair, but you can't tell me that the Ghoul one shorting a guy in power armor isn't a little bit bullshit, he could have used AP rounds on a flexible part of the armor or eye sockets, but theres no way the Brotherhood didn't know of a weak spot on tat part of the armor
The eye sockets being vulnerable are questionable at best because in Fallout New Vegas, if you have the Power Armor Training perk, you can call out someone lying about killing a BOS Paladin by shooting the eye sockets with "The eye sockets of power armor are bulletproof."
And even the ones that _are_ still make concessions because they are, at the end of the day, _video games._ Even something as realistic as ARMA has purposeful exaggeration in place because, while it is trying to be as realistic as feasible, it's still a game at the end of the day.
I just wish the Ghoul didnt have to rely on that bs "flaw in the welding" when A: it could have been believable that the AP round in his magnum could make it through one of the lighter parts of the armor that has already been established. Like the flexible parts that arent made of metal, or through the eyesockets. The only reason i think they did that was to make the Ghoul have his badass moment while still trying to make T-60 as impervious as possible. Like "oh, only way to penetrate with a bullet is with knowledge that almost no one knows!" Also the arm jets are dumb. But i hope that was just bc they didnt want to make the jetpack prop and in the games, it doesnt become an ironman suit.
It'd be iffy on the eye slits because we learn in FNV that they're bulletproof through an interaction with one of the NPCs at the beginning of the Honest Hearts DLC. If I remember correctly the character's name is Ricky. It's the fake vault dweller that lies constantly. One of his lies, that you can call him out on if you have Power Armor Training, is that he killed a BOS Paladin with a shot through the eye slit in his helmet. Your character can respond with informing him that the eye slits are bulletproof.
@@ThatGuyOrby we always knew they were bulletproof, but it's only logical that the glass is still weaker than the metal plating. Heck, it was even a vulnerability in Fallout 2.
@@absolutezerochill2700 This is a bit of a gun nerd tangent but...the problem being that the caliber being discussed is 10mm (Ricky actually calls it 11mm because he doesn't know what he's talking about, you can call him out on this too with a Guns Skill of greater than 40) which is directly comparable to .357 in energy on target. I don't think it's explicitly stated what caliber the Ghoul's revolver is in but assuming that it's .357 as that is by far the most common revolver cartridge the Courier out of hand dismissing 10mm as having the possibility of penetrating the eye socket rules out .357 as well as their performance in high end loads are nigh identical. Now granted the Ghoul's revolver, at least visually, seems to be of a higher caliber. I can't find anything specific no matter where I search online. Some claim it to be .40 S&W, Fallout Shelter (which is in no way definitive proof) considers it comparable to a 10mm pistol, some claim it to be 12ga shells, some claim it to be .50+, etc.
I’m not mad that they made it weak, I’m mad that the weakness wasn’t one of the many ones from the games, the eyes, pulse weapons, the core, HEAT explosives. Saying “the inventors left a giant ass hole and didn’t fix it in any later model” is just dumb and made the ghoul’s plot armor just annoying
I love how the setting doesn't affect the economy of east coast BoS. Every ones getting by that even caps can't be easily made, meanwhile they poop out high tech materiel left and right without factories or massive workforce.
they did defeat the enclave in the capital wasteland and since the show takes place way after fo4 and their hq is in boston we can assume they defeated the institute too so they pretty much are the only faction that can scavenge power armors or even manufacture it
Something else that’s important to remember is in lore power armor was being mass produced on assembly lines at at least 2-3 military bases throughout the country, it’s not going to be perfect armor because they had to roll it out as quick as they did for operation anchorage
What would happen if Tony Stark were transported into the Fallout universe? What would he change and improve? How would the BoS react to his technology?
Guy did lose to a bear. A Deathclaw I would understand, but a trained soldier in T-60 losing to a single bear is ridiculous. I'm not even mad about the bit with ghoul-cowboy whatshisface and the bad weld, that's actually makes some sense, even if it's weird that it is a major flaw that didn't become known enough for people to do a patch job anywhere in the 200 years after. But bears really don't rank all that high on deadly wildlife in Fallout
Sodaz shows this incredibly well in the Battle Of Helios One Animation. A single missile round could knock down a Power Armored Paladin and is already dead because of the direct shot.
Well that's sort of the point. Rocket/Missile Launchers exist explicitly because they were designed to counter tanks (to varying levels of success). That's more believable than a .357 Mag doing the same which is a significantly weaker round than what Power Armor is stated to be meant to resist.
Thinking about power armor realistically, imagine youre in a steel car (a Cybertruck for instance). Its got no crumple zones to absorb impact, so while it can deflect gunfire, it still transfers that energy to you indirectly. Modern armor uses ceramic plates that break apart to disperse energy, but still break bones and can cause internal hemmoraging. Power armor would be better, but that incoming energy has to go somewhere and the suit cant absorb all of it forever.
It should be noted that the ways armor was countered in the show was either 1. A well placed shot to weak points the creators knew about and didn’t fix. 2. Rattling the guy inside so hard that armor becomes irrelevant. Which is how actual armor/tanks work.
I’d like to point out that going off of what the official lore of the series says, a single round of .308 would quite comfortably be able take out a suit of power armor (T51B being able to withstand 2500 joules of kinetic energy, while .308 puts out approximately 2,850 joules with standard factory loads); the point of it isn’t to tank hits, it’s to carry heavy weapons, the armor being there more to keep you from dying, not keep you from being disabled (see the Survivability Onion)
it depicts it acutely to the games its taking inspiration from, like have these people never played fallout 4? the armor gets heavily damaged/breaks very fast and easily, obviously not in like 5 seconds, but in a firefight with more than like 4 raiders, your leg/arm piece with either break or get heavily damaged
You didn’t talk about the actual weaknesses of power armor. And no you are wrong, power armor is meant to be the impervious to most things armor. Blud hasn’t played the first and second game
I only hated the choice in the show to make the power armor radio voice to be a filter of you inhaling sulfur hexaflouride. Why the deep "untraceable" voice?? The voices are a nice sounding radio filter voice instead in game.
In the Fort on the west part of the map, where you find kellog, there are multiple Tanks in that town, so the U.S. military at the time the bombs fell was still maintaining and _actively_ using Tanks, and not just running around with Power Armour as their replacements. On a side note, i fucking love how the Tanks in FO4 look, the design is in some spots on the level of Bethesdas gun design, and i'm talkin' the Assault Rifle(specifically the front of the tank is not realistic, the front is usually the most heavily plated part of a tank but they put fucking compartments there and shit), but i love the curvy body and the arrangement of the Treads on them, the "Staggered" formation of them. honestly wish someone made a mod to be able to drive them around and give them different paint jobs, just attach a normal missile launcher to the front and have it still be moderated by your Demolitions Skill and Have your ability to modify/improve the tank be dictated by Armorer/Science.
Another thing to add, if the frame and the pieces are separate for practical reasons, then there is structural weakness in the armor even if it isn’t huge. So Power Armor is great, but like knight and chainmail armor sets they still had straps and attachment points to be exploited by various weapons.
nothing is ever engineered to be the strongest, toughest, best thing ever. that would be much too expensive. things are designed to do their job. power armour lets you carry tank style weaponry, but a missile launcher or even a well-placed shot from a rifle could still take down a power armour clad person. we even see this in the game when we take down BoS/Enclave/Gunners/etc
ur telling me that Power Armour doesn't make you immune to everything? But I never die in the games (very easy player btw)
Dude, the show absolutely tore up the universe of fallout. Lol he shot through t60 with a freaking revolver! Let's not forget this is made out of advanced meta materials that do not exist in our universe as material science and physics were far more advanced in their universe. Common body armor can stop a 44 magnum. Let's not forget the fact that they basically removed laser weapons and anything cool from the universe and basically just made it steam punk medieval knights, because they clearly didn't understand the universe of fallout
@CD-CH-EB there are parts of the armor that are not as heavily armored as the plating. It's made of steel. Revolvers come in many, many calibers.
@@CD-CH-EBit’s not just a revolver it’s a gyro jet revolver, aka a literal bullet with a mini jet engine attached to the back of it. Also if you look at the models in game different power armors have gaps where you can see the frame itself which are weaknesses. So I don’t really see what your driving at dawg.
@@sawyurdikhof3641 according to the lore is made out of advanced composites, unless im mistaken. steel isnt very good at stopping bullets. it literally cannot be steel. 1.25 inches to stop a standard .50 cal round, not even armor piercing. Yes, the chinese would have armor piercing rounds. I mean, imagine spending billions only to be thwarted by armor piercing rounds because you used steel.
I think people forget how often you have to repair them in Fallout 4 😂
One firefight with just 3 raiders already has you replacing parts lol
Honestly that was probably the most fair part of f4
I was like "wait, but you didn't have to. You're thinking of 76." Then I remember that along with settlement objects, PA was the only thing you needed to repair
Nah i go through 30-40 high level fights and dont even have it going red yet
@@ktosiekbotfor real I hate using it 😂
As Marcus in Fallout 2 said -"OOPS Marcus accidentally hit you for 422 hp, critically striking through your armor"
°Oops! Ian hit You instead of raider!
°you we're hit for 97 hp and were killed
I just walk around in Benny's suit, fanning magnums at Deathclaws
So you only play New Vegas? Switch it up man ffs.
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One thing to remember is that like tanks, power armored soldiers do need infantry support. Sure, they're easy to mass produce and allows for a singular soldier to be 2nd only to an MBT, but even a lone MBT is vulnerable to enemy infantry. So when they show power armored troops getting swarmed by ground troops, it's mainly because that soldier lacked proper support.
Cooper was able to singlehandedly take out multiple due to his experiences in the Marine Corps.
"Supporting armor with infantry? What is this technology??!?" - Ruzzia
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Don't even start. I'm tired of hearing about a war I don't care about.
I mean in the tv show that’s why the bos have squires….
@@DEFC0NZER0 Is it actually true that you don't care, or are you lying because you care very much and your team is getting their teeth kicked in?
@@BackyardDogPark9862 I don't care. I'm tired of hearing 'glory to Russia' and 'slava Ukraine.' I'm an American. Why should I care that two countries decide to kill each other, especially when both are autocratic dictatorships run by assholes who don't give a shit about anyone. Stop reminding me about some dumbass war that does not need me to know it's happening.
To me, the way the show portrayed the armor was fine. In the games, the player can still die in power armor, sometimes without any pieces breaking-that just tells me that the person inside is still a squishy meat bag that can only tank so much punishment
This. Spawling and fragments can kill a tank crew while leaving the vehicle itself relatively undamaged. Not to mention the concussive forces that can kill by rupturing the body. Aint a whole lot of space for blast force to go around in a suit of power armor.
The mutant soldier managed to land a critical hit, -500
I loved in the show how the infantry went into battle behind the knights using them as cover like how they do in WW2 movies behind tanks.
That was so cool. Really solidified the walking tank look
Im pretty sure in 4 they do something similar usually you'll see power armor troops stay in front in patrols and during combat power armor soldiers rush the enemy and stand in front of allies
SODAZ animation really highlighted how the Brotherhood could effectively use that tactic too.
Power armor always had a weakness or a nerf. For example in Fallout 3 and New Vegas you were supposed to take power armor training, so that you were able to use the power armor. Then there was also the stats requirements, and armor condition.
But in Fallout 4 the protagonist is a soldier, so he didn't need the power armor training, he was trained about 200 years ago.
He had to be nerfed somehow, so they added the fusion cores.
Now in Fallout 76 there's the fusion cores, and the armor condition.
What about the fact that the power armor has survived being under a jet engine
@@Flaroguy Yet stinging enemies can pierce the metal with ease.
@@chadharger9323 the logic is so goofy like fr at one point a jet engine didn't leave a scratch but a bullet from a pistol would damage the military suit
@@Flaroguy that's just a gameplay issue . In lore you should be able to resist most firearms but being invincible in a game with just a fusion core and a set of armor you can find pretty easily (not counting concord) would be overpowered . Ans the fev mutated creatures evolved to fight people in said armor or other very resistant creatures like mirelurks or deathclaws
Fallout 4 it has condition as well you have to repair it
I’m actually kind shocked anyone thought the shows’s power armor was ‘nerfed’, if anything it was OP. The strength increase in the games has been minimal for the most part, but in the show you can just crush skulls one handed.
People conveniently forget that power armor straight up eat those normal shot like it’s friday night party just so that they can shit on Bethesda
I mean that stuff was still shrugging off “12 gauge Sabot rounds”
I also imagine one of the perks of power armor is that it’s much more compact. The logistics of maintaining and repairing a tank require teams of people with lots of heavy equipment needed just to do repairs. Heck even replacing parts would require heavy machinery.
The benefit of power armor is that more mechanics can be used for more machines. Parts are easier to transport to frontlines because they simply are smaller. Not to mention if a tank is destroyed you need heavy machinery to move. Power armor would just require a tow truck.
Not even. It's shown in fallout four that you need like... two people max to carry a whole set of power armor, one of them can even be wearing the frame. And if it runs out of power, it's shown that all that happens is you can't move quickly. That means it has some sort of mechanical backup system that allows it to be moved without electricity.
also all power armor we see is put on a universal (or atleast easily backwards-compatible) frame and the limbs and torso (helmet seperate obviously) are all switchable and able to be mixed with other pieces which makes replacement and repairing Much easier, since you can just take a piece off in some calm area to give it to somebody to repair while you put on a unused piece, even if its a different model
@@blehh_mae also it's apparently easy enough to make armor that fits on the frame, because some raiders have made their own power armor!
@@Woodland_AdventuresIt’s literally just a scrap metal so yes, anyone can do it
Maximus in Philly was tanking shots from the ghouls gun
@@FOXCYBORGNINJAalso the ghoul seemed to need specialized ammo in order to pierce the armor in the first place, which doesn't seem to be what he had when fighting maximus
I enjoyed the fact that Cooper Howard actually used one during the battle of Anchorage and knew the suit's weakness then used that fact as a benefit during the fight at the observatory.
It was completely unnecessary lol. Its believable that the AP round from his magnum could make it through the flexible parts of the armor. Or the eyesockets, like Fo2. They didnt need that "oh you have to hit in one tiny spot, which no one else knows about."
Also the arm jets are dumb. But i hope it was just bc making a jetpack prop would make it difficult to get in and out of the suit. Hope in the games the jetpack is still there.
@@absolutezerochill2700 definitely won't argue about the arm jets. That definitely didn't make sense whatsoever. Being that over 200 years have passed since the battle of Anchorage and considering that it's possible that the weaknesses of the power armor wasn't documented ( due to the Chinese spy ring could obtain any documents regarding the weaknesses and use that against the soldiers during the battle of Shanghai.) of course Cooper does discuss that topic with Bud Askins after the commercial shoot in Vault 4 and how those weaknesses got a lot killed during the battle of Anchorage.
@@herbthompson9530The suits of Power Armor were in possession of a techno-religious organization. They would have found the weak spot and fixed it a long time ago.
@@commanderAnakin I'm not so sure about that, Westech didn't document the weaknesses of the T series due to the possibility of losing the government contracts. Then one should look at how Knight Titus kept complaining about being sent out to recover advanced tech like "Toaster Ovens." Then one has to look at the Mojave chapter who has the "Archimedes Device" within their finger tips with two kids playing with the"C finder" and lost it all because they couldn't hold the solar power plant against the NCR and end up hiding in the Hidden Valley bunker while Elder Elisha plays dead and runs off to the Serra Madre only to end up trapping in an empty vault. Let's not forget that Frank Horrigan nearly wiped out the BOS in San Francisco. Then you have the DC chapter led by Elder Lions who basically went against the orders of the West Coast chapter of the BOS and started to help out the local population (to which I do admire) and really didn't go looking for advanced tech. If it wasn't for the "Lone Wanderer" they wouldn't even have fresh water leaving the Enclave to complete "Project Purity." To be honest if anyone would have found and fixed the problems with the T45/T51b/T60 power armor it would have been the Enclave except the Enclave created the X01/X02 and the Tesla/Hell Fire power armor that is far superior to the T series. Heck the BOS didn't even have those Vertibirds until the "Chosen One" retrieved the plans from Navarro. The DC chapter didn't have Vertibirds until the "Lone Wanderer" defeated the Enclave at the Andrews Air Base. The BOS did have Blimps they used for their travels east and of course losing a few in the Midwest on the way to DC. Yes in time the BOS did build the airship Prydwen after destroying "Rivet City." My point is that I myself do not have faith that the BOS had the documentation that described the weaknesses of the T series of power armor due to Westech not wanting those weaknesses to be known.
@@herbthompson9530 The entire goal of the BOS is to research and protect pre-war tech, and their members wear power armor.
They would know about its weaknesses. They had post 2277 to 2296 to figure it out.
Remember, folks: Armor is not impervious. Everything has a weakness waiting to be exploited.
Even the strongest of tanks has a weakness that can be exploited
Several thoughts
1) I'm sure they didn't add jetpacks because it would be that much more to make said props, so in my head cannon some power armor has a kind of "hover" function as seen in the show vs the Jetpack in the game which gives limited flight/hover/jump.
2) Explosives have always been pretty good against power armor, especially on direct impact. As anyone who's used any of the firearms with the "Explosives" Perk can tell you, you'll blow parts right off the suit.
3) With number 2 in mind, I imagine the Ghoul combined knowing the Armors structural weakness along with special rounds similar to said Explosives perk. We even see him hold a spiked round, implying the punching power alongside exploding.
4) As great as Power Armor can be, it really depends on who's piloting the thing. Just your average joe hoping in power armor would be exceptionally different than someone who practically lives in the thing and knows its limitations.
My 4 cents 🤓
tbh i dont care if any sorta armor will stand unbroken against an explosive or not, its still gonna bruise later if not hurt enough to do proper damage, same with something blunt like a really heavy hammer to the armor
Nerfed? THEY TURNED IT INTO IRON MAN
I don’t remember iron msn getting one shotted with a revolver
@@Cthulhuwarlord I refer to the flying thingy, i really hope they just don't add it to every power armor, it's an unnecessary buff on my pointof view. I prefer the Fo4 style jetpack contraption
@@Cthulhuwarlordthat was no revolver
@@Cthulhuwarlordwhat? iron man has weakness in his plates too
@@Cthulhuwarlordit’s literally a plot point many times in the comics and im pretty sure it’s said once in the movies
They didn’t Nerf the suit at all in fact, they made it stronger by implying that they all have built-in jet maneuvering busters. And if people are upset about the welding under the chest piece thing, in fallout four, you could shoot fusion core through the front of peoples armor if you had the right perk
F4 power armor isn't exactly lore accurate either as you could be killed by someone bare handed. Also the fusion cores themselves can power a building for well over 200 years and remain practically full but a power armor drains in in basically a few hours.
@@BronzedBeasttrying to equate gameplay to lore is why zelda fans cant ever agree on anything either, its just never going to work
I assume the "Nerf" reffered to is the shitty weld right in the center of the T-60, and, admittedly, they could've found a better place to put the T-60's weakness where it would be less likely to get randomly hit during combat
**Laughs in Fallout 1-2 "You've been critically striked by deathclaw for 0 health"**
The Ghoul wiping out those Brotherhood soldiers was no different than a courier walking in to the Hidden Valley bunker with That Gun and VATS. Lore accurate tbh
Also considering the player in every game with power armor is already a tank on legs without armor, it’s not actually as strong as you’d think
How was it nerfed? The Yao guai attack was bc the dude was a coward, and the chest weakness totally could only be known by pre war soldiers, aka Cooper and Nate
Except such a weakness that an item like power armor can be taken out with a lever action shotgun would never be allowed besides that most certainly the brotherhood of steel would be able to figure it out. The first member were all former United States soldiers.
@@charlottewalnut3118this may surprise you greatly but… Fallout 4 also have armor-piercing like New Vegas, it’s just not a bullet
@justnoob8141 There's so much you can to a bullet. Pack in more gun powder, make a harder tip, make a weaker tip with an explosive compound. Only so much can be done and I don't believe there's any modifications you could do to a bullet fired from a lever action. Add to much gun powder the whole weapon could explode because it can only handle so much emergy
Are you seriously telling me the US
1) Allowed a weakspot that can be pierced by small arms fire, on the chest of the T-45 where it would be hit FREQUENTLY by small arms fire in actual combat
2) Didn't fix this massive design flaw with the refined version, the T-60.
Imagine if you could take out an entire tank with a single bullet and the military just said "ah well who cares"
@@pixel6698well, by the time 60 roll around, there is no fight anymore until the nuke and 51 is the one in service
"this impervious iron man suit"
Also the show with iron man thruster bullshit:
Its a fair representation, as the ghoul was a soldier before the war and he knows the weaknesses of the armor, also a raider is not killing a person in power armor
You say as in almost every fallout game you can take on a deathclaw, but the paladin gets mauled on by a Yao guai
They couldn't even get the a list wasteland creature to style on power armor. Smh.
it got ducked by a pistol so got nerfed.
Nuuuuuuu my armor can’t stop nukes it’s unfair 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Can't even stop a pistol round lmao
And also the things it has faced so far are usually the end point for such suits, especially in the hands of someone who doesn’t know what they are doing.
I think the issue people have is that a bear, mutated or otherwise, carved its claws through 5 inches of steel like a hot knife through butter.
I guess they didn't have the budget for a death claw smh. Couldn't even get an A list wasteland creature to do it.
My problem was that power armor already had a weakness, and they never mentioned it and instead made a new one that doesnt make too much sense.
Power armor is weak to things like the pulse gun or an emp grenade not being shot in a spot, it piercing through, or causing some other type of damage.
Not everyone have laser gun and one of the power armor was literally killed by mortar shot, or rocket, dunno, it’s an explosion, under their feet
Also, power armor is generally highly valued, energy weapon would ruin it
TK Mantis “lapdog” Jr over here
If it can be taken out with a stray bullet, it’s not a proper Power Armor.
Bro said it wasn’t built to be a tank and then explained that it was literally built to be a tank
"The show makes Power Armor too weak!"
Me, taking damage from some chem-addled raider with a baseball bat:
Fallout 1-2: you are basically Hercules, you can carry mosre stuff and withstand almost anything (except for some late game laser stuff but no biggie that what tesla armor is for)
Fallout 3: idk
Fallout 4: u just can carry more and have higher mobility with radiation protection and huge small arms protection, laser and grenades can still mess you up
F76: repair that shi now
If they didnt super nerf it, the ghoul would have a hole in that huhe suit of plot armor they put him in
I think the issue people have is that the power armor went from a walking apc to an iron man rip off that can be one shot.
Heavy machine gun fire is known to penetrate power armour. Like he said, just like tanks, they aren't immune. They are designed and wielded to have a specific job
Government ought to be taken notes right now.
The weakness in the middle of it is so stupid though, that was just a ex machina
The only problem is lore wise they were built to mow down entire platoons and rip through tanks so getting taken down by raiders with shoddy weapons is unrealistic
That one suit was held down by two people and it launched the ghoul
Also like, the two main times we see power armor used in the season one, it was being piloted by someone who didn't know how to use it (Maximus) or someone who was having an intense emotional response and couldn't really react (aka, that frightful asshole of a knight Maximus had). So it's also that we just really haven't seen a good pilot in power armor yet (save episode eight, there was some badassery in that, if ykyk)
I feel as though people are getting the toughness of the T-51b mixed up with the other suits. The T-51b was meant to be a tougher but less manufacturable suit less common to other suits. But even then the suit still has limits with it's defences
I think the best comparison would be back when the army switched over from the M60 tank to the M1 tank. An M1 is better than an M60 in every regard but it was also much more expensive and it took time for the M60 to be fully phased out of service because of this.
a lot of fallout fans complain about not getting new content but when they get new content they complain about it
The fun thing is that you can kill enemies with power armour in games, and it's not that difficult to do.
Not to mention that, aplying a real life logic, power armors are pretty, stupid in some things.
Like for example, you could easily be pushed back with something, fall on your back, and have to stop up again, that's something that will not happen to a tank.
The problem is they didn't really show the powered armor suit being used in the fashion it was meant to. The heaviest load you always saw it carry was the Assault Rifle from Fallout 4. Hell, when the Brotherhood Paladins went out with the Squires, they were the ones tasked with carrying all the stuff, which didn't make any sense.
Did you not play fallout 1/2? You are virtually immune to minigun fire and rockets
The issue is they made power armor look powerless.
Power Armor can literally withstand a tank shell but ok
It gets destroyed so quickly in the games you have to repair it so often
You know, enemy can ditch out a lot of pain when you’re standing still and do nothing
Ah yes Power armor in the original games where you can be critically hit for 0 damage. Power armor was always supposed to be the most powerful force on the battlefield. The only way the Chinese could stop it in Anchorage was by turning their entire side into a pulse field to stop them.
Most peoples problem with the armor being ‘nerfed’ is more it being inconsistent, throwing cars like superman and crushing human skulls with ease. But getting your foot in some wood oops you’re stuck now, one ghoul firing 30 shots at you does nothing, but still cannot kill the ghoul because plot armor. 4 power armor soldiers vs 1 ghoul who couldn’t one earlier, nope he kills them like nothing. Also taking out the fusion core doesn’t make it so the suit essentially traps you, you are still able to easily exit it.
All i know is ive never even been slightly bothered by a mere radroach in my power armor unlike maximus 😂
Yes im waring a thank but a knife can penetrate it
Yeah that bit went a bit too far. Like I do buy that the Ghoul who is a wasteland legend with past experience of power armour can solo or even take on a couple of knights knowing exactly where to hit but the idea he could solo a whole squad was always a bit too much. Plus all power armour had lights, why didnt they just use that?
@Gallalad1 probably just to build up his character and show you exactly how goof he is. Season 2 will be WAY better in every way
I mean, putting in-universe explanations aside for a couple of seconds. Armored knight combat would end up in a series of grapples, until one knight falls to the ground, then the other knight slips a dagger in between the metal sheets. I think it would be thematically appropriate for power armor to have the same weakness, like once you're overwhelmed/a technical failure happens it's just a matter of time until someone finds a weakness. Also not related but I want to see the tribal power armor clad people in the fo2 loading screens in the show, I like the post war power armors like those and the hardened ncr armor
They can literally throw people 40 feet in the show with power armor
Yao Guai swipes once or twice at a BoS maintained power armor. Knight is fatally wounded.
No amount of mental gymnastics can ever save this show from its own nonsense.
I remember reading some lore on the T-51b that just the _paint_ was bullet-resistant up to 5.56mm rounds. Like you needed at least a .308 to even scratch a suit of it.
not scratch, 308 could just punch through
Brother if the paint itself is 5.56 resistant. I'm pretty sure the armor itself could withstand a .50 bmg.
@@BronzedBeastnope
Fair, but you can't tell me that the Ghoul one shorting a guy in power armor isn't a little bit bullshit, he could have used AP rounds on a flexible part of the armor or eye sockets, but theres no way the Brotherhood didn't know of a weak spot on tat part of the armor
You think WEST Coast aware? They don’t even use 45 until East Coast came back with 60
The eye sockets being vulnerable are questionable at best because in Fallout New Vegas, if you have the Power Armor Training perk, you can call out someone lying about killing a BOS Paladin by shooting the eye sockets with "The eye sockets of power armor are bulletproof."
I cannot believe so many people actually liked this commodified slop of a show.
Also, stuff is obviously stronger in video games. Because very few video games are ultra realistic with guns
And even the ones that _are_ still make concessions because they are, at the end of the day, _video games._ Even something as realistic as ARMA has purposeful exaggeration in place because, while it is trying to be as realistic as feasible, it's still a game at the end of the day.
"Iron man style suit" the way it flies in the show combined with how the helmet opens up on the face kinda makes it feel like that was the intention
I just wish the Ghoul didnt have to rely on that bs "flaw in the welding" when A: it could have been believable that the AP round in his magnum could make it through one of the lighter parts of the armor that has already been established. Like the flexible parts that arent made of metal, or through the eyesockets. The only reason i think they did that was to make the Ghoul have his badass moment while still trying to make T-60 as impervious as possible. Like "oh, only way to penetrate with a bullet is with knowledge that almost no one knows!"
Also the arm jets are dumb. But i hope that was just bc they didnt want to make the jetpack prop and in the games, it doesnt become an ironman suit.
It'd be iffy on the eye slits because we learn in FNV that they're bulletproof through an interaction with one of the NPCs at the beginning of the Honest Hearts DLC.
If I remember correctly the character's name is Ricky. It's the fake vault dweller that lies constantly. One of his lies, that you can call him out on if you have Power Armor Training, is that he killed a BOS Paladin with a shot through the eye slit in his helmet. Your character can respond with informing him that the eye slits are bulletproof.
@@ThatGuyOrby we always knew they were bulletproof, but it's only logical that the glass is still weaker than the metal plating. Heck, it was even a vulnerability in Fallout 2.
@@absolutezerochill2700 This is a bit of a gun nerd tangent but...the problem being that the caliber being discussed is 10mm (Ricky actually calls it 11mm because he doesn't know what he's talking about, you can call him out on this too with a Guns Skill of greater than 40) which is directly comparable to .357 in energy on target.
I don't think it's explicitly stated what caliber the Ghoul's revolver is in but assuming that it's .357 as that is by far the most common revolver cartridge the Courier out of hand dismissing 10mm as having the possibility of penetrating the eye socket rules out .357 as well as their performance in high end loads are nigh identical.
Now granted the Ghoul's revolver, at least visually, seems to be of a higher caliber. I can't find anything specific no matter where I search online. Some claim it to be .40 S&W, Fallout Shelter (which is in no way definitive proof) considers it comparable to a 10mm pistol, some claim it to be 12ga shells, some claim it to be .50+, etc.
It's primarily an Exoskeleton, and people often think it's primarily protective.
I’m not mad that they made it weak, I’m mad that the weakness wasn’t one of the many ones from the games, the eyes, pulse weapons, the core, HEAT explosives. Saying “the inventors left a giant ass hole and didn’t fix it in any later model” is just dumb and made the ghoul’s plot armor just annoying
This so much. It was a sloppy and lazy way to defeat the armor. Pulse grenades are a thing in universe too.
This makes the Bio-dome quote " I'm a Sherman Tank " a real thing!
In what game could you crush people’s skulls with one hand?
The series made them look way more powerful then they are, the t-60 made maximums into a demigod
Titus ran away from a Yao Guai in Power Armor.
As hilarious as that was, I’m just like; “Bro… you’re in Power Armor!!!”
Practically allows you to carry the squire’s backpack
"Toughness of tank" But can't stop an APFSDS to the chest
My question is why the weak spots are in the same spot both T-45 and T-60?
My answer is lazy bethesda writing
Power Armor when a Barbarian with stealth shows up: ☠️
Bro literally threw a rock over mountains
I love how the setting doesn't affect the economy of east coast BoS. Every ones getting by that even caps can't be easily made, meanwhile they poop out high tech materiel left and right without factories or massive workforce.
they did defeat the enclave in the capital wasteland and since the show takes place way after fo4 and their hq is in boston we can assume they defeated the institute too so they pretty much are the only faction that can scavenge power armors or even manufacture it
“They merged power armor” The main suit featured in the show can fly
Something else that’s important to remember is in lore power armor was being mass produced on assembly lines at at least 2-3 military bases throughout the country, it’s not going to be perfect armor because they had to roll it out as quick as they did for operation anchorage
What would happen if Tony Stark were transported into the Fallout universe? What would he change and improve?
How would the BoS react to his technology?
Hes gunnong down all our men with scrap?!!!
BRING IN...... THE COURRIOR NOW!!!!
I always thought of it as a dramatisation that you wouldn't see in a video game (outside cutscenes)
If I remember correctly in the operation Anchorage DLC the Chinese setup been electric field which fries anyone in power armor
Guy did lose to a bear. A Deathclaw I would understand, but a trained soldier in T-60 losing to a single bear is ridiculous. I'm not even mad about the bit with ghoul-cowboy whatshisface and the bad weld, that's actually makes some sense, even if it's weird that it is a major flaw that didn't become known enough for people to do a patch job anywhere in the 200 years after. But bears really don't rank all that high on deadly wildlife in Fallout
The claw isn’t a problem, it’s the bitch slap, Mantis Shrimp may not look scary but their punch is supersonic
Sodaz shows this incredibly well in the Battle Of Helios One Animation. A single missile round could knock down a Power Armored Paladin and is already dead because of the direct shot.
Well that's sort of the point. Rocket/Missile Launchers exist explicitly because they were designed to counter tanks (to varying levels of success). That's more believable than a .357 Mag doing the same which is a significantly weaker round than what Power Armor is stated to be meant to resist.
Remember, even a tank can be sunk by the mud.
The dude in the show kicked a rock through a brick wall
Not to mention it was meant to protect the wearer against mild to severe radiological hazards
Thinking about power armor realistically, imagine youre in a steel car (a Cybertruck for instance). Its got no crumple zones to absorb impact, so while it can deflect gunfire, it still transfers that energy to you indirectly. Modern armor uses ceramic plates that break apart to disperse energy, but still break bones and can cause internal hemmoraging. Power armor would be better, but that incoming energy has to go somewhere and the suit cant absorb all of it forever.
It should be noted that the ways armor was countered in the show was either
1. A well placed shot to weak points the creators knew about and didn’t fix.
2. Rattling the guy inside so hard that armor becomes irrelevant.
Which is how actual armor/tanks work.
Look at it this way, a plate rated for 50 BMG exists, but you're still gonne die to a 50 BMG plate or no plate.
But it’s definitely got that robo-gorilla grip.
I’d like to point out that going off of what the official lore of the series says, a single round of .308 would quite comfortably be able take out a suit of power armor (T51B being able to withstand 2500 joules of kinetic energy, while .308 puts out approximately 2,850 joules with standard factory loads); the point of it isn’t to tank hits, it’s to carry heavy weapons, the armor being there more to keep you from dying, not keep you from being disabled (see the Survivability Onion)
"Firepower and toughness of a tank"
Me watching a soldier in power armor carring a 120mm high velocity armor piercing cannon😲😲😲
I thought the _Fallout TV Show_ depicted Power Armor very accurately.
it depicts it acutely to the games its taking inspiration from, like have these people never played fallout 4? the armor gets heavily damaged/breaks very fast and easily, obviously not in like 5 seconds, but in a firefight with more than like 4 raiders, your leg/arm piece with either break or get heavily damaged
You also take out a crew of Raiders and a death claw. It's too bad the Raiders didn't know about the super secret weak spot.
“Why’d they nerf the armor?”
Says the guy in the simulation T-51.
You didn’t talk about the actual weaknesses of power armor. And no you are wrong, power armor is meant to be the impervious to most things armor. Blud hasn’t played the first and second game
Would be cool if in future Fallouts, we had power armor SUITS and regular power armor, like those from Fallout 3 and New Vegas
I only hated the choice in the show to make the power armor radio voice to be a filter of you inhaling sulfur hexaflouride.
Why the deep "untraceable" voice?? The voices are a nice sounding radio filter voice instead in game.
In the Fort on the west part of the map, where you find kellog, there are multiple Tanks in that town, so the U.S. military at the time the bombs fell was still maintaining and _actively_ using Tanks, and not just running around with Power Armour as their replacements.
On a side note, i fucking love how the Tanks in FO4 look, the design is in some spots on the level of Bethesdas gun design, and i'm talkin' the Assault Rifle(specifically the front of the tank is not realistic, the front is usually the most heavily plated part of a tank but they put fucking compartments there and shit), but i love the curvy body and the arrangement of the Treads on them, the "Staggered" formation of them.
honestly wish someone made a mod to be able to drive them around and give them different paint jobs, just attach a normal missile launcher to the front and have it still be moderated by your Demolitions Skill and Have your ability to modify/improve the tank be dictated by Armorer/Science.
Another thing to add, if the frame and the pieces are separate for practical reasons, then there is structural weakness in the armor even if it isn’t huge.
So Power Armor is great, but like knight and chainmail armor sets they still had straps and attachment points to be exploited by various weapons.