Exploring The Donner Railroad Tunnels

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  • Опубликовано: 10 июл 2018
  • The First Transcontinental Railroad was quite an ambitious project and this video highlights what was almost certainly the largest obstacle to the completion of that project. The mountains of the Sierra Nevada are not insignificant and we all know how things can go wrong in Donner Pass (my foreign viewers should Google “the Donner Party” if they do not understand that reference). At the time this project was announced, it was exceedingly difficult for even a wagon to make it over the steep, rocky terrain of the mountain range. As such, the proposal by the chief engineer of the Central Pacific Railroad, Theodore Judah, to send the large, heavy trains THROUGH the mountain at the summit rather than over it was met with no small amount of skepticism.
    Well, as we all know today, Mr. Judah was not mentally ill and his bold plan worked. As mentioned in the video, it was not without a cost though. Aside from being hugely expensive, there was a tremendous loss of life involved in the construction of these railroad tunnels - especially among the many thousands of Chinese laborers toiling away to run these tunnels through the mountain.
    These tunnels were drilled by hand (no pneumatic drills in those days) and then blasted out with gunpowder and later nitroglycerin. They were attempting to push through solid granite though and so progress was measured in inches rather than feet (centimeters rather than meters). Just as an example, that shaft in the first tunnel? It took almost three months simply to get it down to the level where they could start working on the tunnel itself. The fastest pace the workers ever achieved on the shaft was one foot a day. This solid granite is the primary reason the tunnels (not the snowsheds) look so similar now to when they were first constructed. There was no need to do any more work on them. You’ll notice the absence of supports inside the rock tunnels (or rock that has fallen to the ground) in support of that statement. They certainly look to be in far better shape than many of the mines that we have visited - and those mines were never in operation as long as these railroad tunnels!
    The concrete snowsheds, of course, are more modern. The original snowsheds were constructed of wood and stretched for many, many miles. There are some great pictures of them to be found online should viewers be curious.
    The final train ran through the tunnels in 1993 when rail service was switched to a new 10,322-foot tunnel to the south (under the same mountain).

Комментарии • 326

  • @solohoh
    @solohoh 6 лет назад +22

    The freight train I hopped from Green River, WY to Roseville, CA in the summer of 1965 must have gone through these (abandoned since 1993) tunnels. I rode on the top of a box car and ducked (laid back flat) just in time (@ 0:04) -- I will NEVER forget that moment when I saw the first tunnel coming, There couldn't have been more than 2 feet of clearance between me and the roof of that tunnel, The diesel fumes almost got to me. When I jumped off the train later I slashed my left ankle -- that wound kept me out of the Vietnam War draft.

    • @TVRExploring
      @TVRExploring  6 лет назад +8

      If you ended up in Roseville, then, yes, you did pass through these tunnels... 1965 was a great time to have been riding the rails. So, hopping freight trains might have saved your life?

    • @solohoh
      @solohoh 6 лет назад +10

      Yes, indeed -- and my soul too

    • @TVRExploring
      @TVRExploring  6 лет назад +3

      Yes, well said.

    • @tommas2674
      @tommas2674 2 года назад

      I wish we would keep this up under historic preservation. and I wish people would raise their children to use their crayons on their own paper some respect.

  • @evanstauffer4470
    @evanstauffer4470 6 лет назад +37

    You were hiking the roadbed of the Old Southern Pacific Railroad Track#1, built by the Central Pacific Railroad in the 1860's. To cut operating expenses, the Southern Pacific removed Track 1 over Donner Summit in the 1980's (they continued to use Track #2 which was built in the 1920's.) In the 1990's the Union Pacific Railroad took over the Southern Pacific. Today due to increased rail traffic, this single-track segment (and another segment west of the summit) create "choke points", hindering efficient rail operations. At some point, the Union Pacific may have to reinstall the track in the tunnels you hiked. In removing the track, the Southern Pacific was "penny wise and pound foolish."

    • @TVRExploring
      @TVRExploring  6 лет назад +3

      Thanks for the additional details... I wondered about that bottleneck. I took an Amtrak to Reno a few years ago and we had to wait for a while near the new tunnel for the traffic ahead to clear out. It'd be interesting to see them rehab that abandoned (for now) section.

    • @fastmail55
      @fastmail55 5 лет назад +6

      The old 'Espee' often seemed to have a tendency to not look very far down the road at times. This track should not have been abandoned and ripped up. I would also guess the UP will eventually relay the line.

    • @markfrench8892
      @markfrench8892 Год назад

      Espee didn't remove this track, Union Pacific did.

  • @patdenney7046
    @patdenney7046 6 лет назад +45

    I lived in the building that covered the vent in 1983 .
    Snow fall that year was 102 feet.

    • @TVRExploring
      @TVRExploring  6 лет назад +10

      102 feet!?! That's an insane amount of snow!

    • @lukewarmwater6412
      @lukewarmwater6412 5 лет назад

      I remember riding in the school bus and looking out at the snowsheds when we went on ski trips in 1983 the year before I graduated high school.... weird to think they quit using it a year before my daughter was born.

    • @Nova-ne1il
      @Nova-ne1il 4 года назад

      Wow!

  • @johnsmart964
    @johnsmart964 3 года назад +2

    The scenery is absolutely fantastic you would think tourist trains would have been popular. These tunnels are fantastic in size and give the railroad a great advantage when hauling freight with double stack container trains so much better than the very constricted size we have in Britain. Thanks again for taking us with you.

  • @jamesbarnes1913
    @jamesbarnes1913 6 лет назад +6

    I used to watch trains go though those tunnels back in the 60's and remember the old Highway arch bridge that looped around.

    • @TVRExploring
      @TVRExploring  6 лет назад +1

      Ah, I would love to have seen that area around that time...

  • @jameswingert9596
    @jameswingert9596 6 лет назад +14

    That's cool that they used Crusty Brand Precast Concrete.

    • @techobsessed1
      @techobsessed1 5 лет назад +1

      I'm surprised it held up as well as it did.
      Someone must have made a mistake and used too much portland cement & not enough old newspapers.

  • @mikenolan4871
    @mikenolan4871 4 года назад +5

    I drove my pickup through those tunnels a few years ago before it was blocked off, and before I knew it was okay. Weird experience! I half expected to meet an oncoming train even though there were no tracks!

  • @Bedfordmdb
    @Bedfordmdb 6 лет назад +2

    I grew up watching the trains travel through these tunnels and sheds. Now I've got to make the hike! Nice!

    • @TVRExploring
      @TVRExploring  6 лет назад +1

      Me too! I remember going by as a kid and seeing the trains chugging through there... I would definitely recommend making the hike.

  • @sampointau
    @sampointau 6 лет назад +17

    Those weren't signal cables, they look like circuit break collapse wires. If there is a collapse of the boulder pile that may block the limes, it would break the circuit of the wires and put stop signals up along the track and alert railway crew to respond to the collapse.
    I have seen similar here on tunnels through mountains and even alongside some roads in Alpine areas where rockslides are prevalent!

    • @TVRExploring
      @TVRExploring  6 лет назад +1

      Yes, I think you're absolutely correct.

  • @fraudexposure6318
    @fraudexposure6318 5 лет назад +13

    these tunnels are what the cab forward locomotives were designed for

    • @deanmoore1752
      @deanmoore1752 4 года назад +6

      since they had to be used in cab forward configuration, locomotives from Roseville had to be turned around for the return trip. therefore there was a huge turntable inside the sheds at Norden pass. Southern Pacific donated that unused and abandoned turntable to the Roseville Historical Society to be used for a railroad museum that never happened. when Union Pacific assumed operations, they wanted the turntable removed, but it was too big to move, too long to make it through those tunnels, so it was scrapped on site to fund the Carnegie Museum in Roseville. I had the sad duty to cut up and remove that historic piece of equipment. so sad. the graders at Schnitzer steel scrap yard said it was very high grade steel, they were impressed having not seen too much of that type of scrap in many years

    • @bradster59
      @bradster59 4 года назад +1

      @@deanmoore1752 thats great history thanks dean , yeah the up messed up alot of sp history

  • @Resenbrink
    @Resenbrink 3 года назад

    Fantastic - just love the story around this huge project...thanks a heap for posting this.

  • @TBI-Firefighter-451
    @TBI-Firefighter-451 6 лет назад +2

    I lived near Truckee when I was a teenager and explored those very same tunnels and snow sheds but there was only a few local names spray painted and no grafiti plus the line was still active, the roar and rumble of those diesel locomotives in them was insane. Thank you for the Memories.

    • @TVRExploring
      @TVRExploring  6 лет назад

      That must have been pretty cool to experience being in the tunnels with the trains rumbling through.

  • @timtraver7152
    @timtraver7152 4 года назад +1

    Excellent video, exactly what I wanted to see! No stupid comments or goofy antics, just a walk thru the tunnels. Thank you for posting!

  • @209RCTrailKing
    @209RCTrailKing 6 лет назад +1

    Thankyou brother. I appreciate all your hard work filming bro. Your videos are Amazing

    • @TVRExploring
      @TVRExploring  6 лет назад

      Thank you for the kind words. They are much appreciated.

  • @tomfips4682
    @tomfips4682 6 лет назад +3

    Awesome. Nice change up. The many talents of Josh. Very, very cool to get to see them. And as always, you go the extra mile so as we get to see it to the end. Hats off to ya and take care of your beautiful Italian. (Chuck's on his own for this one.)

    • @TVRExploring
      @TVRExploring  6 лет назад +2

      Oh, yeah, there was no way I was just going to turn around half way through like most people... If something is worth doing, it is worth doing right. LOL, yes, I try to bring in the Italian when I can. For some reason girls don't seem to be that into abandoned mines and their mud, swarms of insects, chest-high flooded adits, bad air, etc. Who would have thought, huh?

  • @darnezzyd
    @darnezzyd 3 года назад +1

    As a kid I always loved watching the trains pop in and out of the tunnels and just hearing the engines roar through Donner Lake late in the evening. Always wondered what the tunnels looked like.

  • @CornishMineExplorer
    @CornishMineExplorer 6 лет назад

    A amazing amount of work went into cutting those tunnels, glad to see they never sealed them shut after they closed. some great views up there, thanks for sharing!

    • @TVRExploring
      @TVRExploring  6 лет назад +1

      Thank you. Yes, it was quite a project pushing these tunnels through... I'm glad their efforts were not undone by the tunnels being intentionally destroyed when the railroad abandoned this section.

  • @DFDuck55
    @DFDuck55 6 лет назад +12

    Very cool! Now I want to make that hike :> Looks like people ride quads through there, right near the collapse area near the end of the video there were some quad tracks. -- There was a 2011 television series called "Hell on Wheels" based on the race between the Union Pacific and Central Pacific railroads to build the transcontinental railroad. Near the end of the series they touched on the trials and tribulations, and loss of life, to get these tunnels blasted. May 10th 1869 the two lines were joined in Promotory, Utah, where the presidents of both rail lines drove a ceremonial last spike, a Golden spike, into the rail.

    • @TVRExploring
      @TVRExploring  6 лет назад +2

      It's a cool hike if you can find the time to get up there... I'm not sure how old those quad tracks were, but it'd be a lot tougher to make that ride in now with that big washout. "Hell on Wheels" sounds interesting. I'll have to see if I can track that down somewhere. Thanks for the tip.

  • @stanleystrycharz2572
    @stanleystrycharz2572 6 лет назад +1

    This was a great video! I love the history of the trans -continental railroad. Now I have seen the tunnels with you. Thanks so much for making this and sharing it. Some of the art was amazing too. It's interesting to note that even now Nature is reclaiming this man made structure. The wash out and collapses are evidence of this.
    Also this looks like a good place for a motor bike! Imagine riding the origonal route of the TCR on a dirt bike or even a mountain bike but ... I'm sure some law prevents it.
    Awesome work as always TVR! You are one of the good guys who documents fading history before it is lost forever!

    • @TVRExploring
      @TVRExploring  6 лет назад +1

      Thank you very much. Yes, I'm into trains and railroad history too... I was surprised to see how quickly nature is reclaiming this area given how solidly the tunnels were built and considering how it wasn't abandoned that long ago. Ha, yes, some law probably prevents riding through. There are laws against everything now!

  • @tutekohe1361
    @tutekohe1361 6 лет назад

    Well constructed, great condition, something to be admired.... and that was just Eleanora! Thx Justin, another great video.

  • @MetaldogJC
    @MetaldogJC 6 лет назад +6

    I love how the snow sheds and tunnels were built together. All those (new) snow sheds use pre-cast units, pretty cool, and replaced the wooden snow sheds of old, now mostly pushed over the edges and largely burned. The old timbers are all around down-slope. There's a bit of road history too; between the second covered hybrid tunnel and the 1st long tunnel/shed, the rail grade crosses the original stage road. It's a blip of a bridge and a rough narrow grade.
    The new RR tunnel is a shorter, more straight shot through the mountain, making this, very curvy and longer route, obsolete.
    I'm glad they did not close them or blow them up like so many mines.

    • @TVRExploring
      @TVRExploring  6 лет назад +1

      Yes, there are a few sections where you can see out of the concrete snowsheds and look down upon all of the remnants of the wooden snowsheds... Aesthetically, I prefer the wooden sheds. That is very interesting about the old stage road. I wish I had known that when I was up there.

  • @kengamble8595
    @kengamble8595 6 лет назад

    That was great !
    Thanks for sharing and take care. 👍

  • @ericcorse
    @ericcorse 6 лет назад +14

    That was cool being an ex rail fan. It is a shame those hoodlums can't find a paying outlet for their painting some are pretty good. Those wire at the last I believe were used to signal a train if there had been a rock slide which broke a wire.

    • @TVRExploring
      @TVRExploring  6 лет назад +3

      I like rail too and so I certainly enjoyed going through there. Yes, thank you for correcting me on the purpose of those wires. You can see that my train knowledge has some gaps in it...

    • @goodtutt4733
      @goodtutt4733 5 лет назад +2

      Eric Corse Hoodlums? You mean artists don't you?

  • @kevinholland4156
    @kevinholland4156 2 года назад +1

    They actually built a steam train because of these tunnels and snow sheds. It was called a cab-forward so the crew would not be asphyxiated by the smoke and cinders. There is one on display at the California State Railroad Museum in Sacramento.

  • @wygold
    @wygold 6 лет назад +7

    Thanks for sharing, some interesting artwork. If you like these train tunnels you should check out the abandoned Carizzo Gorge & Goat Canyon Trestle w/abandoned train cars in San Diego County. There’s even some train cars on the side of the mountain near the trestle that was used for a movie and was left behind.

    • @TVRExploring
      @TVRExploring  6 лет назад +5

      Some of the artwork in there was quite good! I'm familiar with the Carizzo Gorge/Goat Canyon Trestle and it is on my list, but I haven't made it down there yet. It sounds really cool - especially those train cars...

  • @techobsessed1
    @techobsessed1 5 лет назад +1

    We took Amtrak to visit my grandmother in the bay area once or twice in the early 1980s. I don't know if we were on that rail-line, but I remember winding slowly through the mountains. Once or twice the train stopped in the middle of nowhere to drop-off or pick-up backpackers.

    • @TVRExploring
      @TVRExploring  5 лет назад

      That would be pretty cool to have a train stop to pick you up when you were out backpacking...

  • @davelandefeld
    @davelandefeld Год назад

    I did this hike last summer (2022) and it was awesome! It's 3-1/2 miles from the entrance to the first tunnel to the intersection with the current through-line. Everybody in your group needs a flashlight or headlamp and not much else. Across the road from the entrance is the Donner Ski Ranch and the restaurant/bar there is open all year. In July-September it's a popular stop for Pacific Crest Trail through-hikers and quiet a party scene.

  • @wolfsmith2865
    @wolfsmith2865 6 лет назад +34

    Great video. I really hate that even in the most remote historic places, some schmucks with spraycans have to cover it all with visual noise. Don't get me wrong, I love the artfulness and skill with which some graphitti is accomplished, I just hate that no place seems safe to be left as it once was was.

    • @TVRExploring
      @TVRExploring  6 лет назад +9

      Thank you. Yes, there are definitely some sites that I wish would not get covered in graffiti as well...

    • @CANControlGRAFFITI
      @CANControlGRAFFITI 4 года назад +7

      Wolf Smith these guys are going out of there way to somewhere abandoned as to not bother people by bombing up the streets. Half the places that have graffiti are left to rot and people have taken what’s of value and left the rest to leach chemicals and whatnot into the earth. That concrete will last a lot longer than any rattle can paint on a wall, this place is awesome! It’s like a free art exhibit with a view. peace.

    • @mikehunt8375
      @mikehunt8375 4 года назад

      This is art! At least it's out in the middle of nowhere. No dumb penis bs and swear words. But otherwise I definitely agree with you.

    • @Ganiscol
      @Ganiscol 3 года назад +1

      I see nothing wrong with graffiti in these tunnels, especially since a lot of them are more than just eyesore tags but even really artful. There are plenty places they dont belong to but this aint one.

  • @madmat2001
    @madmat2001 6 лет назад +6

    Last time I saw those tunnels they still had trains running through them. I always wondered what they were like inside.

    • @TVRExploring
      @TVRExploring  6 лет назад +1

      I remember watching the trains run through those tunnels as a kid and always wondered what they were like inside too.

  • @nhragold1922
    @nhragold1922 5 лет назад

    One of my favorite areas! Great gold awesome mines beautiful land

  • @brianwilliams3729
    @brianwilliams3729 Год назад +1

    Cool video, along the same theme of blowing things up to make a way forward.... I wonder we look at the miners graffitti now and even look for it; what will the future explorers (100 years of so) make of the more modern art that we sometimes find distasteful? It was nice to see your wife and her contribution to your narrative in places. The size of the rocks on that rockwall were awesome. Thanks for huge effort you put into this channel. I get to see things/place I may never be able to, this world is sometimes an amazing place and the work of the builders is phenominal. Be Safe!

  • @richardlovins6222
    @richardlovins6222 4 года назад

    Some of the miners graffiti was very cool thanks for taking us along with you and your Italian friend
    In all my years of trucking I’ve seen trains going through the tunnels but never new how extensive they actually are
    Like always very nice video keep up the great work

    • @TVRExploring
      @TVRExploring  4 года назад

      Thank you. Yes, I was impressed by how extensive they were too. You must have had some interesting experiences if you were driving over the Donner Pass in the winter for many years...

  • @arienadventures236
    @arienadventures236 4 года назад

    Adding to my list to explore!

  • @breakingtheshell2244
    @breakingtheshell2244 6 лет назад +1

    Awesome tunnels hope to make it to those tunnels one day

    • @TVRExploring
      @TVRExploring  6 лет назад

      They're definitely worth checking out...

  • @bobkaveloh2519
    @bobkaveloh2519 3 года назад +1

    I recently retired from working on the railroad and in the early 70's worked that route between Roseville and Sparks. I have passed thru those sheds and tunnels on a train and had some long and dreadful experiences inside the sheds with train breakdowns. I only loaned out there for about six months as my home seniority was in Tucson Az. but it was always interesting to traverse the Sierra on a train! Thanks so much for the video, curious if you could mountain bike thru the tunnels today?

  • @Crismodin
    @Crismodin 6 лет назад

    I'm going to have to walk this someday, putting this on my bucket list.

  • @maranti34b
    @maranti34b 6 лет назад +4

    When I was a little boy our family drove over Donner Pass on Highway 40 as there was no Interstate 80 yet. Cab forward articulated steam engines were pulling freight over The Hill for Espee. When I was in railroad training my instructor told us how he rode a freight down to Roseville with burning trucks and damaged brakes. They took Cape Horn curve trailing flames and smoke, leaning out of the curve.

    • @TVRExploring
      @TVRExploring  6 лет назад +1

      Those cab forward steam trains running through there is something I would love to have seen... Of course, that train ride from hell that you described would've have been something to see as well! That is a great story.

    • @maranti34b
      @maranti34b 6 лет назад +2

      My older brother when he was a boy scout once had a camp out up there. They had trouble sleeping due to the big engines thundering up and down the hill all night.

    • @darrellborland119
      @darrellborland119 3 года назад

      @@maranti34b Hmm...Camp High Sierra, maybe?....thanks.

  • @gringo4x4do
    @gringo4x4do 8 месяцев назад

    Nice Video ! I grew up in Sacramento and spent much time Railfanning on Donner . There used to be a Turntable at Norden for turning Helper Locomotives around , and Trackside Offices with stairs leading to the Old Highway 40 from the Turntable area , but from what I've read , both are gone

  • @richardbidinger2577
    @richardbidinger2577 6 лет назад

    Different, yet still very enjoyable. I always like these videos.

  • @IanDarley
    @IanDarley 6 лет назад

    Different and top notch as always

  • @TMandN
    @TMandN 6 лет назад

    Now THAT was a cool trip!

  • @stevenhigby3512
    @stevenhigby3512 6 лет назад

    Thank you for the great video of California history did not know that was there would love to see it some day .You always do really cool videos thank you .

    • @TVRExploring
      @TVRExploring  6 лет назад

      Thank you very much. Yes, it is definitely worth paying a visit to the old tunnels...

  • @oceanmariner
    @oceanmariner 6 лет назад +1

    I camped many times near Donner Pass in the 1950s with my parents. Then the snow sheds were wood and most of the tunnels had wood snow sheds at their entrances. Back then, Southern Pacific was still running cab forward steam locomotives. Cab forwards came about to keep the crews in front of the smoke in the snow sheds.

    • @TVRExploring
      @TVRExploring  6 лет назад

      I would love to have seen that area in the 1950s... I am quite envious of you for that experience. I didn't know that the snow sheds were still wood up until that recently. I'm sure the crews appreciated the cab forward designs on the locomotives!

  • @owen4248
    @owen4248 6 лет назад

    Nice interesting history of these tunnels nice tour.

    • @TVRExploring
      @TVRExploring  6 лет назад

      Thank you. Yes, these old tunnels are pretty interesting.

  • @SolitarySwede
    @SolitarySwede 5 лет назад

    Girls has a Fjällräven Kånken!

  • @cclyon
    @cclyon 6 лет назад

    I'm a huge train fan. The old railroad construction never ceases to amaze me.

    • @TVRExploring
      @TVRExploring  6 лет назад +1

      I think there's something wrong with someone that isn't a train fan. And, yes, the ambitious projects of the past are extremely interesting to me as well.

    • @cclyon
      @cclyon 6 лет назад

      TVR Exploring I love the old Narrow Gauge so much that I've got a railroad tattoo.

  • @dirkdiggler1242
    @dirkdiggler1242 6 лет назад

    Thank you

  • @cleanerben9636
    @cleanerben9636 4 года назад +1

    It's great playing through the railroad tycoon 3 scenario of the central pacific.

  • @TheDarkfighter101
    @TheDarkfighter101 3 года назад +3

    4:54 I have climbed out that hole before. Its not the best honestly. the rock up is pretty slick which makes it hard to grab and once you are up you are left with following the tunnel back to where it juts out from the hill or getting stuck at a cliff. Right after the tunnel passes over the great wall of California looking towards Donner lake you can see a flat rock face that shoots up from the tunnel. You get stuck on the other side of that rockface and its nearly impassable without rope.
    If you keep gong down there are way better places to get on the roof of the tunnel. A lot of fire rings and a sad amount of broken glass up there.

    • @TVRExploring
      @TVRExploring  3 года назад +1

      Thanks for sharing that information. I was curious about that spot.

  • @brucewmclaughlin9072
    @brucewmclaughlin9072 5 лет назад +2

    That would make a great rail trail for those of us who do not like to walk!

    • @TVRExploring
      @TVRExploring  5 лет назад

      Yes, it definitely would.

    • @tommcelroy6975
      @tommcelroy6975 3 месяца назад

      Whats a rail trail?

    • @brucewmclaughlin9072
      @brucewmclaughlin9072 3 месяца назад

      @@tommcelroy6975 Train tracks removed leveled with limestone and packed for riding with the concept that the train track could be reinstalled at a later time if required and the rail bed would need minimal work. I do not know of any rail trails that have been reused by trains. Terrain is about 2.5% grade so downhill you still need to pedal . Rail trails go quite the distance in some places.

  • @timcantrell9673
    @timcantrell9673 6 лет назад

    Totally Right On

  • @dianabates9483
    @dianabates9483 6 лет назад

    Hey that is awesome big painting of the clouds that look like Simpson that's cool I love that what you guys doing

  • @lindabaldwin6716
    @lindabaldwin6716 6 лет назад

    Great looking Graffiti artwork in those tunnels.

  • @dv9238
    @dv9238 6 лет назад

    wow amazing !

  • @teotwaki
    @teotwaki 5 лет назад +2

    We need more of Eleonora! :-) Belissima Babe with a brain, great accent and who likes hiking. I've watched a lot of your other videos but this one should increase your followers more than ever. Keep up the good work.

  • @stevehanson5556
    @stevehanson5556 Год назад +1

    Yep when I lived in Truckee over 60 years ago I used to watch the trains go through those tunnels, I remember when a passenger streamliner got caught in there because of snow and they were stranded there For some time, must have been Early 1960s, I can't remember Exactly.

  • @rwarts5150
    @rwarts5150 6 лет назад

    Very cool video

  • @tinytattoomike7943
    @tinytattoomike7943 6 лет назад +1

    Thanks for sharing I always enjoy great graffiti art work and I’m getting we’re I can’t get out and hike anymore due to health issues walking is difficult so it’s nice to tag along and not be a pain

    • @TVRExploring
      @TVRExploring  6 лет назад +1

      Yes, I was quite impressed by the quality of some of the graffiti inside the tunnels! I was laid up for almost three years with health issues that left me barely able to cross a room. So, I can relate to the pain and frustration of what you are experiencing and I am glad I can provide you an outlet to tag along with us.

  • @ProspectorJosh
    @ProspectorJosh 6 лет назад +1

    That was a excellent video! They should have drone races through those tunnels.

    • @TVRExploring
      @TVRExploring  6 лет назад +1

      Well, I tried sending mine in and almost immediately shaved the side of the tunnel... Those things drift even if you've got them pointed straight ahead!

    • @TVRExploring
      @TVRExploring  6 лет назад +1

      Which is not in any way to suggest that I wouldn't love to see drone races there. Just not mine!

  • @paulbetka2966
    @paulbetka2966 6 лет назад

    Interesting. Cool.👍

  • @DavidHuber63
    @DavidHuber63 2 года назад

    Thank you again sir! R/R are wealthy and spare no expense

  • @hankaustin7091
    @hankaustin7091 6 лет назад +6

    Fabulous video!! and Eleonora appears to be a very sweet person, you're quite lucky!

  • @ghostzini17
    @ghostzini17 4 года назад

    Friggin awesome trip!! The graffiti artwork is equally amazing.

  • @sambiscits6711
    @sambiscits6711 6 лет назад

    That was a very interesting video.

  • @taoskid8769
    @taoskid8769 4 года назад +1

    Those wires in the tunnel at 14:28 were slide detectors to let them know if the rocks in the tunnel came loose.

  • @jeffyork3004
    @jeffyork3004 6 лет назад

    Hey - thanks for posting this. I checked these out a few years ago (and had to apologize profusely to the local constabulary after being informed they were off limits - one advantage of a southern accent is you can claim ignorance pretty easily). There's a cool exhibit at the train museum in Sacramento that covers the construction of these tunnels.

    • @TVRExploring
      @TVRExploring  6 лет назад +1

      I wonder if they relaxed their policy on this or if ownership changed because there were people hiking all over it when we visited? Haha, playing the dumb foreigner has gotten me out of a lot of situations overseas like the one you found yourself in. My wife has an Italian driver's license and when she gets pulled over driving a rental car in the U.S., the police don't know what to do with her. They can't read her driver's license and she pretends not to speak English. They eventually just let her go even though she has been pulled over for some astronomical speeds before...

    • @jeffyork3004
      @jeffyork3004 6 лет назад +1

      Probably it's more that I was wandering around on a holiday weekend and they were out in force. There were lots of people out there when I was there - luckily I didn't get caught until I had gone thru all the tunnels and found the old air mail arrow and was getting out of the sun in the short tunnel on the west end. With any luck, CA will do the tracks to trails thing with these tunnels. If you like abandoned tracks, you need to check out the Salmonberry Trail in OR. It's also supposed to be off limits but I think there are plans in place to make it a trail from Portland to the coast.

  • @Wistful77
    @Wistful77 5 лет назад +1

    I know of someone who rode on the line from SF to Philly. He wrote of the trip in his diary, he was an American Army soldier returning from the Philippines in 1902. Wow so cool to see what he saw!! [except for the grafitti] -lol Thank you.

    • @TVRExploring
      @TVRExploring  5 лет назад +1

      That must have been a great trip in 1902... He sounds like an interesting individual.

    • @Wistful77
      @Wistful77 5 лет назад +1

      Quite interesting, though he was an ordinary person. Harry J. Shay. He was born in Pottsville, PA. I went there in 2000 to look for his grave, but failed. Remnants of his family still live there in town. I should have given them the book. He wrote every day, mundane little entries, but a few of the details are really cool, like riding the train across America to get home for Christmas.
      "Safe at home, no more to roam, until the next time, and after a few square meals." he wrote at the end.
      Sadly, he died of malaria a mere three months later.
      Thanks again for showing us this piece of American history. Harry's history. ;)

    • @Wistful77
      @Wistful77 5 лет назад +1

      PS I've been through the pass many times, but from the highway you can't see much. I can't say how much this fills in the gaps about what it was like on the train back then.

    • @TVRExploring
      @TVRExploring  5 лет назад

      That last entry in the diary is quite poignant - and all the more so given his unfortunate death a short while later...

    • @TVRExploring
      @TVRExploring  5 лет назад +1

      Yes, I remember riding through the pass many times as a kid and wanting to go up and explore those tunnels. Well, I finally made that childhood desire a reality.

  • @clodwolf
    @clodwolf 5 лет назад

    Grew up in Colfax, went there all the time.

  • @NZErehwon
    @NZErehwon 6 лет назад

    Very nice hike

    • @TVRExploring
      @TVRExploring  6 лет назад

      Thank you. It made for an interesting day and it was nice to have something a lot easier than an abandoned mine for once!

  • @TickledFunnyBone
    @TickledFunnyBone 6 лет назад +5

    Wow very Cool. It is cool to see elenora (i do not know how to spell her name). those wires on the side of the wall are actually for catching falling rock and preventing the rock from getting onto the rail. i wonder if those were there before the shed was placed there.

    • @TVRExploring
      @TVRExploring  6 лет назад +2

      Ah, you're much closer than most. It's spelled "Eleonora" and if you say it the proper Italian way, it is five syllables, but I always say it with four. Anyway, glad you were happy to see her. Yes, you're 100% correct about the wires. Thank you for the correction. The sheds were placed very early on and so I would guess that the sheds came before the wires.

    • @TickledFunnyBone
      @TickledFunnyBone 6 лет назад +2

      TVR Exploring ah i see that is how her name is spelled. That is very interesting about the pronunciation of her name. And the wires, i am a railfan and so thank you for exploring this, this was very cool to see. We railfans live to see something like this and we dream of a train going through there again.

  • @thomas4315
    @thomas4315 6 лет назад

    Nice place to explore.

  • @valerianosartoflight5712
    @valerianosartoflight5712 6 лет назад

    Looks to be great places ther for landscape and night photography up ther puls also fun portrait whit the light falling in (=

    • @TVRExploring
      @TVRExploring  6 лет назад

      Oh, yeah, there is a LOT a creative photographer could do up there!

  • @Nova-ne1il
    @Nova-ne1il 4 года назад +1

    So much history to the site . I always wanted to walk it . Graffiti can be a bad thing but finding miners graffiti is always a bond between a hole in the ground and being there in the footsteps. I hope one day this stuff is felt the same . btw that graffiti is way way way better than Arizona graffiti. Still I would not mind seeing it with out for historic thought. I love it when you can see old smoke on the rocks . As a teen walking on the modern tracks in Tempe az we could pick up the old slag and coal from the steam engines long gone probably where I started interest in all things old school.

  • @cuffy69
    @cuffy69 3 года назад

    Those cables you said were communicating, are in fact to let the railroad know of any collapses in the tunnel

  • @edchester1773
    @edchester1773 4 года назад

    The man who taught me how to drill water wells dad was a well digger during the first servery for a route through the canyon and the well drillers were there to find the very much needed water for their steam engines that ran through the Feather River Canyon on Hwy 70

  • @Chief81
    @Chief81 6 лет назад

    The scenery is stunning there, especially the lake. The UK doesn’t have views like that. Was interesting to see Donner Lake as not long ago I read the tragic story of the Donner expedition.

    • @TVRExploring
      @TVRExploring  6 лет назад

      Yes, it is a beautiful spot. There is a lot of history there too! Well, not by UK standards, of course, but for Yank standards, it is a lot of history...

    • @Chief81
      @Chief81 5 лет назад

      TVR Exploring yeh, US history is only 600 years or so give or take. But still interesting nonetheless. Imagine the days of the pioneers, they had some beautiful landscapes to explore.

  • @michaelbirdsong196
    @michaelbirdsong196 4 года назад +1

    i like that you love graffiti . i think its cool people are going to these places and painting it adds to the landscape.

  • @crobinson7569
    @crobinson7569 5 лет назад +1

    I am sure it was pretty spooky to be riding a passenger car looking out to see a wall of snow on both sides of the train

    • @TVRExploring
      @TVRExploring  5 лет назад

      That'd be a hell of an experience!

  • @ridgetop8161
    @ridgetop8161 6 лет назад +4

    I live within about 30 minutes of Truckee. The art work used to be very good within the tunnels, but the taggers began to move in and ruined the good stuff. Went from nice work to mindless crud. Still a fun hike and place to explore though.

    • @TVRExploring
      @TVRExploring  6 лет назад

      That's too bad. I would have liked to see the paintings inside in their prime.

  • @tedrobinson5743
    @tedrobinson5743 5 лет назад

    You can also see the places it caught on 🔥

  • @tedrobinson5743
    @tedrobinson5743 5 лет назад +7

    Bad place at night lots o TWEAKER S allways bring your gun!!😜!!

  • @Sawdust5764
    @Sawdust5764 5 лет назад +1

    Chuck sure has changed

  • @remc70
    @remc70 6 лет назад

    Great camera work. You did a little over panning and what you should do is go back and to a straight shot of the tracks then edit in the art work as a quick frame. Can’t wait to see what you will do next.

    • @TVRExploring
      @TVRExploring  6 лет назад

      Thank you for the compliment and the suggestions. Undoubtedly, that would improve the video. I'm cranking out one of these a week though. So, it is a bit of a rush with filming/editing.

  • @robertthomas3364
    @robertthomas3364 4 года назад

    The Donner family has been friends with mine for over 45 years. Mary Donner is like a sister to me.

  • @deanmoore1752
    @deanmoore1752 4 года назад

    as part of the compensation for his public works across the United States, including this right of way and a bridge at Niagara Falls, Theodore Judah was deeded the land, and plotted the original lots of the city of LIncoln California in Placer county 100 miles from there. Despite being authorized by President Lincoln, the city is actually named for Judah's partner Charles Lincoln Wilson.

  • @genejeffries2888
    @genejeffries2888 5 лет назад +1

    Ol donner pass, whenever I drive through there I always stop at the rest area and make lunch... seems appropriate.

  • @mec4705
    @mec4705 4 года назад +2

    It's sad that people feel the need to deface everything with spray paint.

  • @loudieselj3165
    @loudieselj3165 4 года назад +5

    I bet you could make walking thru Walmart interesting

  • @seanmiller140
    @seanmiller140 2 года назад

    I’ve seen videos of people driving through these.
    Anyone know if it’s still possible to do that?

  • @larrykluckoutdoors8227
    @larrykluckoutdoors8227 4 года назад

    👍👍👍👍

  • @dianabates9483
    @dianabates9483 6 лет назад

    Watch out for the vampire bats haha

  • @steam4ever301
    @steam4ever301 6 лет назад

    One can almost visualize a cab forward booming through these tunnels..

  • @jshilohshea381
    @jshilohshea381 6 лет назад +8

    nice video and very pretty lady !! keep them coming !!

    • @TVRExploring
      @TVRExploring  6 лет назад +6

      Thank you. I'll keep the videos coming, but the girls are a tougher request. Pretty tough to get girls to be interested in abandoned mines for some reason...

    • @jshilohshea381
      @jshilohshea381 6 лет назад +2

      TVR Exploring Maybe it's the creepy crawlies inside...or the darkness..dampness. or the fact some mines are downright spooky !! and I hear TommyKnockers don't like women in mines..( makes me want to go anyways..lol )...enjoy your next exploration !!

    • @TVRExploring
      @TVRExploring  6 лет назад +5

      I think Tommyknockers in California are a little more open-minded (After all, it is California) and wouldn't mind women in mines. The crawling through the mud, the swarms of insects, the tiptoeing through black and unknown water, the bad air - yeah, I just can't understand why women aren't into that, you know?

  • @thomasmcluckie2014
    @thomasmcluckie2014 6 лет назад

    i was waiting for you to walk out of the tunnel and into a border patrol check point lol

    • @TVRExploring
      @TVRExploring  6 лет назад +1

      Oh, I had to cut that part of the video out because they made me delete the footage.

  • @markcantemail8018
    @markcantemail8018 6 лет назад

    No Cannibals were harmed making this Video ! I Just wanted This To Be clear From the start . There now it is said . Thank you For both being Impressed by the size for us . The place is Huge and a great location , I am glad you brought us along to see your trip .

    • @alf.2929
      @alf.2929 6 лет назад

      Yea, i'm surprised you're the only one that's mentioned it. No one seems to remember the Donner Party. No joke but was that a skull at ruclips.net/video/bAxrVjTEnw4/видео.html when he mentioned about the timbering. It's embedded next to the timbering.

    • @TVRExploring
      @TVRExploring  6 лет назад

      Cannibalism would have definitely spiced up the video a bit... I alluded to the ill-fated Donner Party in the description, but, yes, I'm surprised no one else has commented on that as well. Either way, yes, it is a huge site and a very photogenic location. Thanks for the comments.

  • @bobmacadu840
    @bobmacadu840 6 лет назад

    I always thought that was a flume. Never would have guessed it was the rail road.

    • @TVRExploring
      @TVRExploring  6 лет назад

      That's funny, I thought it was a flume for a while too! Hope everything is okay with your father...

  • @darrenhillman8396
    @darrenhillman8396 6 лет назад

    Great video. Interesting to see. If the tunnels and snow covers were here in the UK, they would have been bricked up “for safety and security reasons” by the mindless bureaucrats.
    Pity about the graffiti. Self expression for the intellectually inept.
    Liked and subbed.

    • @TVRExploring
      @TVRExploring  6 лет назад

      The health and safety culture in Britain is particularly pernicious (I'm a UK citizen and lived in the UK for several years)... So, you have my deep sympathies. Regrettably, we're not too far behind you though.
      Thanks for the sub!

  • @ramonquiroz7153
    @ramonquiroz7153 Год назад

    Truckee i miss U....

  • @snowman374th
    @snowman374th 4 года назад +1

    11:59 WOLVERINES !!!!!!

  • @khuuphotos
    @khuuphotos 4 года назад

    Would you know how many tunnels there?