Indian Challenger - Installing TAB Performance CAT Delete, Sound Comparison, 1st Test ride & Review!
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2020
- Here is my video on installing the TAB Performance CAT Delete 2-1-2 exhaust. A sound comparison between the TAB Performance Zombie system with and then without the CAT. And last, my first test ride and impression of my Indian Challenge after installing the TAB CAT Delete 2-1-2! Removing the CAT makes a HUGE difference! Please like and subscribe if you haven't already! Also leave me a comment with your thoughts on my video, on the Challenger, or about the TAB Zombie system or CAT Delete. If you have any ideas for more videos or something you want me to cover please let me know!
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Just stumbled by your video. Thank you for taking the time to give such a complete review on our product and glad you found a set-up you love.
You are so welcome!
Awesome I am going to be doing this same set up zombies with air intake ... I learned alot from your follow up comments to viewers... thank you
Glad I could help! Let me know if you have any questions, I'm happy to help if I can! Thank you for watching and please subscribe if you haven't so you can see all my new videos!
Amazing! I have plans to do the same on my Challenger. Congrats.
Thanks for the video & comments. I've been debating on the zombie and I think I'll skip them to keep my buddies from going deaf behind me :o)
Thanks for this video brother, I am running Tab's with zombies along with the stock cat right now and love the sound. But next summer I am going to get that cat delete and switch out the zombies for the 2.5 baffles. I have watched Tab's video's with audiophile headphones but hearing your thoughts really helped a ton. Take care and stay safe
Thank you for the great feedback! I have been running this setup now for about 12-13,000 miles and LOVE it!!! I ended up NOT changing out the baffles for the 2.5 inch ones because I LOVE the sound and get a lot of compliments on it! This setup might still be a little to loud for some people so you can definitely tweak it until get what you want from the volume but I found out that it does NOT need any more back pressure with this 2-1-2 setup! Please subscribe if you haven't and keep watching for more of my videos, I appreciate it!
It sounds great ....just bought 2023 Challenger DarkHorse. Getting Cat delete and tab performance 4.5 pipes.
I just bought the same bike “23” , I was going to go ahead and order the tab performance pipe. I’m wondering if you’ve done it yet and are the procedures the same as this video?
I have a 23 challenger limited. I have considered the cat delete (already have tabs with zomb baffling) however I was told I would need to also upgrade the flash.
Sounds great. I don't have a Challenger yet, but from all the videos here on RUclips, I'm definitely going to want more sound compared to stock. Did you have to tune your bike at all after deleting cat and adding zombie baffles? Thanks
Hey Joe, yep the Challenger is incredible but definitely needed to be opened up more than the stock exhaust. I absolutely love the TAB zombie exhaust and by adding the CAT 2-1-2 it is very aggressive and sounds awesome! I think that combo is right on the edge of loud when you want it, but not to loud where it becomes annoying to ride on long trips. I had the stage 1 done on my Challenger with the air intake, the TAB Zombie exhaust, and the flash tune from the Indian dealer. Even after removing the CAT, I was told that it shouldn't need any other tune as the bike will self tune/correct itself to a point. As soon as an actual full tuner is available, I plan on bringing it in for a professional dyno tune with whatever tuner comes out for it to not only get the most performance out of the bike, but to make sure that it tuned properly and not running lean or rich. Thank you for watching! Please subscribe and stay tuned for more videos coming out soon!
The sound of the piper is very good .
Thank you for sharing your video
Love the bike. Love the exhaust set up. I want to add the speaker package when I get my bike. My question is how does your stereo system sound with the new pipes and cat delete? Are you able to hear the music over the pipes?
Thank you for watching! So with the TAB Performance CAT 2-1-2 Delete and the Zombie exhaust, it is loud especially when you get on it. But that said, even when cruising at 80 mph, I still don't have a problem hearing my music, with the Indian upgraded speakers I can put it on setting 8 out of 11 and be jamming to music down the highway. If it is really windy and going fast, say 80+mph then sometimes it can be harder to hear the music but rarely do I ever wish music was louder. Hope that helps!
Love it
Glad you liked my video! Keep watching for more new stuff coming!
If I have a stock set up with Bassani slip ons, can this still be done?
I love the sound 110% however, like you said...the neighbours would hate me! The guilt would eat me alive and make me regretful each and every early morning startup. I would love to sound like your setup! Just know I can't take on the neighbourhood!
I was a little worried about that too as I leave for work before 5am and thought I might wake the entire neighborhood! But by taking it easy (I try to keep it under 2500-3000 rpm in the morning leaving the neighborhood), it really isn't much louder than any other motorcycles you hear coming and going. It only gets crazy loud when you give your wrist a little twist lol, but so far I haven't had any complaints from neighbors and waking them up in the morning going to work. So I wouldn't be to worried about this setup being obnoxious as long as you take it easy until out of the neighborhood! Really couldn't ask for a better sounding setup, it isn't annoying loud when taking it easy or cruising at high speeds (55-80 mph) but give it a little gas and it immediately wakes up and alerts anyone near you that you are there!
HARD LUCK MOTORCYCLE ...LOL...Man!...I don't know that I have the discipline to NOT twist too much!!! It sounds great!!! For now...I'm simply running stage one, Indian Thunder Stroke slip on, Six Shooter tips (waiting for air intake). Stage Two and Dynojet Power Commander5 to follow! But...Yup!!!...I don't have the discipline to NOT twist! ...lol
Sir, did you have to tune the motorcycle after the upgrades?
Great looking bike and love the new TAB set up - what helmet are you using? Are you going to upgrade the bars next?
Thank you! I'm loving my Challenger and definitely love the TAB Zombies with the TAB Cat Delete 2-1-2 system, it sounds incredible and I have got a lot of compliments on how it sounds! My helmet is a Ruroc 2.0 and I LOVE it! It is carbon fiber so extremely light, has a built in bluetooth audio system in it, and is the most comfortable full face helmet I have ever owned! I'm not sure if I will upgrade my bars because I find the stock bars extremely comfortable, so if I do end up getting different bars at some point, they will probably be similar size and location as I personally don't find the raised bars comfortable for long rides that I love doing like these Iron Butt challenges, etc.
@@hardluckmotorcycle5265 thanks brother 🙏
I just got the tab 212 cat delete, running upgraded indian slash cut slipons. they did a reflash for the slipons, wondering what you did any computer work or are you just running it?
I had the full stage 1 with air intake and TAB slipons installed at the dealership that also included a computer update for the stage 1. I didn't need anything after installing the TAB Cat Delete. Once a company comes out with a full tuner, I will bring it in for a professional dyno and full tune.
Did you do the lorence tune?
Just wondering where you got your tinted windshield
Did you loose power at all when you did the cat delete
Did you need a tune after the install
just ordered my pursuit, lord knows it will be awhile
Hi brother!
What size windshield is that 8” or 11” and did you do a Flash after installing the Tab CAT Delete?
Hi Jeffrey! I have the 8" Klock Werks windshield. I'm 6' tall and with it completely lowered, the wind hits my forehead and raised up wind goes over the top of my helmet so it is very stable with little to no wind bouncing my head at speed. The TAB CAT delete pipe does not require any flash update outside of the normal stage one exhaust Indian flash tune, this came directly from TAB Performance. Hope this information helps! Thank you for watching my videos and keep an eye out, I'm hoping to be able to start loading new content again soon!
What size slip on from tabs? 4inch or 4.5?
Got to test ride the challenger at thunder beach. I liked the bike very comfortable. For some reason I thought it would be faster. But I ride ultra limited stage 2 with full exhaust and auto tune. The fairing takes getting used to. Also rode the roadmaster limited. What tuner are you running if any. I noticed both Indians ran fine until you hit 70+ then they felt out of tune. But it was hot that day too. My ultra ran crappy stock as well.
I currently do not have any tune on my Challenger and it has always ran perfect. I put on about 16,000 miles last year (2020) between April and October, including 3 Iron Butt rides (over 1,000 miles in less than 24 hours) and a 5,000 mile trip across the country in 11 days. I have done these extreme rides in a wide range of weather including an Iron Butt while it was nearly 100 degrees and another Iron Butt at below freezing temps! In my experience, it seems like a lot of issues with the Challengers were due to poorly tuned/synced throttle bodies. My throttle bodies were perfectly matched and I have experienced no issues at all with how it runs or performance in over 17,000 miles now! Thank you for watching, please subscribe if you haven't already so you will see all my new content coming soon!
@@hardluckmotorcycle5265 someone said they detune the demo bike's so people don't get too crazy. The roadmaster I rode ran rough to me also. But I'm picky about throttle response and smoothness. My stock HD ran fine until about 65+ mph. I noticed the same things on both indians
I'd like to hear what a 2 into 1 SuperTrapp set up would sound like. Sure am glad I'm not your neighbour 😂🇦🇺
While I try to be courteous to my neighbors, it is hard to keep my bike quiet anymore and when I leave for work at 5am I'm sure I wake a few other people up lol!
what set up did you get for your saddle bag speakers?
I got the upgraded Indian Powerband Audio Plus package, that includes upgraded front speakers and rear saddle bag speakers for a 400 watt system that is incredible! It is crazy loud but also very clear, I highly recommend it if you love music while riding!
Did you have to add a tune
Any drone with that setup with your full face?
5 am neighborhood alarm clock 🤫 Sounds perfect if you don’t want to listen to music 😉. Hey Joe, have you experienced any problems with your Challenger to date ?
What differences are there between the 2-1-2 and the 2-1, sound and performance?
I do know that the TAB Performance 2-1 with the zombies lost a little power due to not enough back pressure (based on a friend doing that and getting a dyno before and after). As for sound, I think they are both comparable, the 2-1 could have been a tad louder but it is difficult to say. Side by side they were extremely similar. My friend ended up not wanting his bike as loud and wanted to get some of his back pressure so he had to change baffles in his 2-1 and he has since then changed to a completely different exhaust. I still love my TAB 2-1-2 CAT delete with Zombies and constantly get compliments from people about how great it sounds in person from bystanders and people riding with me. I have no complaints about my setup and think it has the perfect balance of loud, deep, raspy chaos when get on the gas, but it also doesn't drone and isn't annoying loud when cruising long miles even at high speeds. Thank you for watching my videos, I hope this helps answer your questions! Please subscribe and stay tuned, I'm working on new videos!
#catsout yeah buddy
Yep CAT is out! And wow does that make a world of difference!!! Thanks for watching!
Sounds like a beast, don’t get hung up on back pressure your power hasn’t gone anywhere.
I have now been running this setup for about 12-13,000 miles and LOVE IT! I did try using TAB's Zombie Rings and Torque Cones, it was horrible! The Challenger with TAB's 2-1-2 CAT Delete does NOT need any extra back pressure with the Zombie setup, I think that if you do their 2-1 CAT Delete then you will want a little extra back pressure. But when I added the Z-Rings and Torque cones, it sounded Terrible and even worse, it ran terrible!!! I immediately took them out after I got back from a 400 mile trip with that setup and as soon as I took those out, my bike went back to sounding great and running great!
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@hardluckmotorcycle5265 so do you think a 2-1-2 with 4.5 zombies will be good with the biggest baffle
How is the sound on the highway? Droning?
The sounds is great! At cruising speed, it does not drone and is not too loud or annoying. But give the throttle a little twist and it instantly lets anyone around you know you are there! I have done 3 Iron Butt rides on my Challenger so far (over 1,000 miles in less than 24 hours) and the sound never became annoying to myself or anyone I was riding with.
Does this void the warranty?
No, this will not automatically void the warranty. In order for this modification to void the warranty, Indian would have to prove that this specific part caused the problem. My dealership had no issue with this CAT delete at all or concerns that it would void any part of my warranty.
Loud pipes save lives. I think ill do these. 😅
Don't use a screwdriver on the clamps; as I recall you can use a 5/16 nut driver and no risk of slipping screwdriver
Good tip! A nut driver would definitely be a better option but if careful a screwdriver shouldn't be a problem. Thank you for watching my videos!
Thats funny we both have cobras and challengers lmfao
Sounds like you have good taste too!
Sounds mean.
Thanks, yes this TAB Zombie exhaust and CAT delete sounds incredible and I'm always getting compliments on how awesome my bike sounds!
Im laughing, you do an exhaust change and go and show all the friends. I put it on go for a test ride and put it her away. I don’t have any friends.
My bike is my friend.
Don't waste money on tab trash. Freedom Performance makes the best exhaust for this bike hands down. Loud isn't all there is to it, sounding good is another. That bike sounds like shit.
Sorry you feel that way Christopher, when I bought my Challenger TAB Performance was one of the only aftermarket exhausts available. I have to say that videos never do audio justice and I have yet to meet anyone in person who doesn't love the way my bike sounds! I constantly get compliments on how great it sounds and really like it myself. I have heard great things about Freedom Performance also, maybe at some point I will give their system a try, but I'm extremely happy with my current set up as it not only sounds great but is continuing to run perfectly after almost 20,000 miles now!
HARD LUCK MOTORCYCLE ...there always has to be one of these guys, eh? 400 lbs guys living in moms basement!!! The asshole kid who always knew it was easy to get negative attention!!!
@@KC-sj6oi 😂😂😂