The Formula 1 Iceberg Explained, Vol. 2
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- Опубликовано: 3 июн 2024
- The iceberg tier: an ever-popular internet phenomenon that can applied to just about any subject on the planet. Last year, I made one for these for Formula 1, which proved to be a big hit, so now it’s time to do it again. This time however, things are a bit different. Instead of simply nabbing a pre-made tier list off the interwebs, I asked my loyal subscribers for suggestions of what to put on a blank one, receiving well over 100, so this tier list is made up entirely of my subscribers’ suggestions, as well as a few of my own, ranging from well-known memes and trivia at the tip, to some thought-provoking conspiracy theories down in the depths. So, join me for this ill-fated voyage aboard RMS Formula 1, and remember to bring your diving gear.
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Timestamps
0:00 Introduction
0:51 Tier 1
19:34 Tier 2
28:50 Tier 3
46:31 Tier 4
1:00:43 Tier 5
1:20:43 Tier 6
1:41:55 Tier 7
2:03:55 Tier 8
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Due to issues with the original video, this is a reupload with some minor cuts/revisions. Enjoy!
thank you. i really enjoyed the previous one. keep making great videos
still really good, think it deserves a rewatch
What issues, copyright?
Had to remove some not-ad-friendly stuff
All good. I still love it either way! Is there a Vol 3 on the way soon?
Osama Bin Russell makes sense now when he was driving with Williams
Yeah. Ankle socks will order a nice latte with and I quote “any milk is fine”
@@TellURide447 HIS. WORDS.
Some ideas for part 3:
1. French civil war in 1980s between Renault and Ligier;
2. Senna sabotaged Warwick's career;
3. firing of Esteban Tuero in 1998;
4. Kubica to Ferrari;
5. Maldonado to Ferrari;
6. Ricciardo's stint in McLaren - underperformance or sabotage;
7. Brawn's car is 2009's Super Aguri;
8. Stirling Moss's bad luck;
9. American F1 champion's teammate curse;
10. Andrea de Crasharis;
11. McLaren sabotaged Michael Andretti in 1993;
12. McLaren sabotaged Nigel Mansell in 1995;
13. Honda's magnesium car;
14. Leyton House case;
15. Larrousse/Venturi owner's curse.
Technically Kubica did get his Ferrari drive, he's in the 499P next year.
The American F1 Champions teammate curse reminds me of the British champions curse in WRC, where both Richard Burns and Colin McRae, who both won championships for Subaru, ended up dying early.
I’d also throw in:
16. “Road-Legal F1 Cars”
17. FOM/Liberty Media copyright abuse
18. Theory: Lance Stroll was injured at Mugello 2020
19. The Red Bull driver search
20. Jeff Gordon at Stewart
21. Roberto Moreno
22. Feeder series competition (i.e. GP2 versus Formula Renault 3.5)
23. Penske PC4 was a championship capable car
24. Gunther Schmidt (ATS and Rial team principal)
25. DRS makes racing worse
@@sirspoonyr26. Hamilton was unfit at Abu Dhabi 2020
27. Azerbaijan brake magic
28. Temporary/replacement tracks (Portimao, Mugello)
29. Huski Chocolate is a scam
30. Crypto sponsorship scandals
@@yudhabagaskara98 Crypto sponsorship scandals I feel like are more of an Indycar/will be more of an Indycar thing due to Bitnile and Ed Carpenter Racing, as that's one I can see potentially killing an entire team if it goes sideways.
The mention of RPM sent shivers down my spine. He CANNOT BE STOPPED
I can here his voice now
Because
*Awwwwsoooooom
He swore on his nans grave
Oh that's that acoustic hermit fella right?
That guy sucks. He’s a racist, homophobe, and bad person
Disgusting
for part 3:
1. schumacher potential return with team enstone in late 2013
2. arrows sponsors
3. blue ferrari
4. ralf crashed in purpose to give michael's first win in 2005 (events before 2005 US GP)
5. phoenix finance
6. button's return (2017 Monaco GP)
7. old cars using current livery
8. 3-seater arrows car
9. williams sabotaged mansell
10. abandoned caterham headquarters
11. sainz giveaway podiums
12. alex albon's absence
13. bianchi pre-contract with sauber
14. james courtney accident
15.forti being the last f1 car with manual transmission
16. premier league club sponsoring sauber and caterham
17. mclaren double brakes
18. john surtees motogp title
19. british grand prix in donington (2010)
20. 1999 honda prototype f1 car
4. ralf crashed in purpose to give michael's first win in 2005 (events before 2005 US GP)
can you explain this ?
@@SManSteonly 6 cars (both Ferraris, and 2 backmarker teams) raced in the 2005 US GP because the tyres that the other teams used were deemed unsafe for the track. This is because Ralf Schumacher crashed in practice due to a tyre blowout.
The conspiracy theory is that Ralf Schumacher intentionally crashed in practice, faking a tyre blowout, so the other teams were forced to not race, and Michael would be effectively guaranteed a win, as Ferrari were the fastest team using the "safe" tyres.
21.Sebastien loeb’s f1 debut
@@jakesandland91Ralf crashed on the exact same corner the following year driving for Toyota....
Can someone explain sainz giveaway podiums?
If you ever do a part 3 id love to see Maria de Villota's death covered. She died due to injuries sustained in a F1 test and is largely forgotten about.
Marussia failed 2 drivers😔
Just did more reading on this and its a bit creepy. Her Marussia hit a truck and she sustained head injuries, she died one year later, and a tribute was held in her honour at an f1 race.
The race was the 2013 Japanese GP.
Rarely have I found sitting next to a babbling Brook so satisfying. Thank you Peter. This was rich and enlightening, a walk-through of fascinating history, some of which I had forgotten, and some of which I had been puzzled by, but with your elucidation now makes a lot more sense. Thank you.
2:17:00
I still find hilarious that Toyota was spending more money than Renault, McLaren, Ferrari and BMW and yet got not even close to winning a single race. Just goes to show how poorly handled that team was.
Ideas for Part 3
1.Spain 1975
2.James Hunt
3.F1 is too boring
4.Jerez 1997
5.8-wheeled cars
6.Nikita Mazespin
7.Dick Seaman
8.Torpedo
9.Goatifi
10.Jacques is the better Villeneuve
11.Michael Masi
12.Clark's misterious death
Could you do a full breakdown of the career and achievements of the legendary Jim Clark? He is (in my opinion) the greatest F1 driver of all time, and I think he deserves a full video. Thanks!
It was great to see the drivers refuse to race in South Africa. And F1 would never hold a race in an oppressive dictatorship ever again....
Again, awesome video! Just to clarify, at 52:48, there is indeed an article in the Brazillian constitution that ensures Freedom of Speech, which cites: Article 5th, Paragraph IV states "The manifestation of thought is free" (free translation), but the judicial system seems to not care about that with multiple ocurrences of censorship from various courts of law, including the Supreme Court.
Just a heads up that Sergio Perez missed races due to COVID, not just Seb & Lewis. Hence Hulkenberg super sub in both Silverstone races.
Didn’t Stroll miss Nurburgring due to covid as well?
And Mazespin Abu Dhabi
“Covid” - is that the name of the cheeky brunette from the yacht
@@pilotpod4020 Loool
Didnt Kimi had 10 fastest laps in the 2008 season? Imagine if they gave the extra point system like today
A shame you had to reupload it, as we lost the true views count. Still, this is one of my favourite F1 related videos, if not my favourite. Patiently waiting for volume 3!
Not like I needed an excuse to rewatch this but I'll certainly take one!
for part 3 i'd like to see
1. Adrian Newey "Merchants" (every driver that drove with his cars and got a lot of success out of them, i.e. Mansell, Prost, Hill, Hakkinen, Raikkonen, Vettel, Verstappen)
2. Charles Leclerc Pole to Win ratio
3. 1982 - the year where no one wanted to win the championship
4. John Watson's P22 to P1 win
5. Checo winning at street tracks or countries with human rights violations
6. Lewis Hamilton's 2023 mercedes cockpit position vs other cars/drivers
7. France's tumultuous history in F1 (renault during the turbo era, didier pironi and olivier panis championship contender -> career changing/ending injury, crashgate leading to exclusion for afew years, loss of jules bianchi and antoine hubert, present day renault in-team rivalry, etc.)
8. Bernie era vs Liberty media era
9. Dominicalli vs Sulayem on how to run F1 seasons
10. Drivers with really short junior careers before joining F1 (i.e raikonnen, verstappen, etc.)
This video is TV gold. You outperformed on this one. Much respect and I'm about to watch part 1.
Volume 3 should include the E-Sports scandal of F1 22-23
Can you please elaborate on that?
Some F1 esports drivers were found to have cheating software on their computer
ideas for pt 3: (they probably place higher on the iceberg since im new to f1)
1. mercs disappears off the grid (1950s-60s)
2. nico’s psychological warfare
3. pink mercedes
4. the man who walked through fire
5. hamilton gate
6. LH deserves 10 wdc
7. horner breaks cyril’s heart
8. force india team principle becomes a convict
9. ferrari stopping all-season dominance, twice
10. senna’s caught a case
oh and albono appendicitis!
@@janhvi143really overrated
Quality video Mate, this is definetly the second best formula 1 content I've seen (first being the 3 hours season reviews sry)
Great video.
I like your calm take on f1 commentary for lack off better words
I will use this as an excuse to watch it again
R.I.P TO VICH TITS AND SHOUTOUT TO HIS FAMILY.
Best and most underrated f1 RUclipsr
Excellent work! The first one was brilliant, I can't wait to finish Volume 2!
Brilliant video, as usual. Love the F1 iceberg videos you do!
40:56 I love what you said about the celebs! great video man, dont stop making these vids
Spa 1998:
1st turn, the italian commentator states: "everything seems normal.... until now" the second he finishes the phrase you see cars crashing out of the mist
Man the amount of times I’ve watched this 😂 your voice is so calming this is my housework playlist 😅
if you make another one of these, 1975 spanish grandprix would be a good addition, as well as wasted talents such as karl wendlinger (beat schumacer), johnny herbert, stefan bellof, giles villeneuve, and martin brundle. also, speaking of karl wendlinger, his monaco crash in the first practice session following imola which measured at 360G (the world record despite most citing kenny brack with the record) also should be mentioned. karl wendlinger could have his own entry.
also, a few darker additions could be the amount of "covered up" f1 marshal and mechanic deaths. 2 deaths within a year in the 2000s, a marshal being crushed at the 2013 canadian grand prix, multiple pitlane injuries as recent as 2018, and in (2020?) a ferrari mechanic lost his leg after being hit in a car demonstration, where he was pinned against a wall by a ferrari doing burnouts
@@MotorsportsVideos12along with pit crew getting injured at Imola in 1994 after Alboreto's wheel fell off after a pit stop.
honestly im quite surprised that Haas didnt have to pay the money back to Uralkali
I was so excited for a second. I thought this was new content - part #3!! Come to realize its a re-upload -.-
Schumacher accusing someone of trying to kill him by causing an intentional accident is INCREDIBLY hypocritical
lmao wow picquet was a savage!
Will there be a vol 3 though 👀
One day yes!
It's here
Btw, SPA 2021 most likely got nothing to do with 1998
They won’t green flag the race if the medical helicopter cannot takeoff
SPA 21 was just that, the weather wasn’t good enough for the medical helicopter to fly.
LOVE these videos
When I saw that 2 HOUR lenght of this video, i knew i will hear some thigs that i never knew before.
Good job on the vid man. it must've taken you a lot of time and sweat to do it .
First time watching this just randomly got this on my reccomended. You’re about to get boosted
4:26 It should be mentioned that Hill only won the 1998 Belgian Grand Prix as a result of team orders from Jordan. He was being caught massively by his team-mate (Ralf Schumacher), so he got on the radio and moaned about it, basically threatening that if Ralf was to fight him they might end up crashing out.
You mean he, quite correctly, pointed out that if Ralf were to catch and overtake him, they could both crash as he was not prepared to simply move out of the way and the other, more talented, Schumacher had already gone out of the race trying to overtake a car that wasn't even fighting him? You mean he told Eddie Jordan what was best for the team and Eddie agreed, is that what you mean?
@@PedanticGamingmental fatigue
@@PedanticGaming No, that's not what I meant. You're free to interpret it however you'd like, of course, but my interpretation is that Hill's radio message was a thinly veiled threat to pressure the team (basically "if Ralf tries to fight me I'm having us both off"). Before Hill's message, Hill and Schumacher's engineers told them about how quickly Schumacher was catching, and Schumacher's engineer (Sam Michael) said he could pass for the win, so at that stage the team didn't think the risk of a pass was excessive. It was only after Hill's radio message that the hold order was given.
Personally I see that as an... uncharitable interpretation, but you're free to feel like that. Of course they both wanted to win, and it's not like team orders haven't been applied before. I'm sure Damon thought he deserved the win after getting his Jordan into the lead in the first place, and I'm equally sure Ralf thought he deserved to win because he was quicker. Personally I like to think it was a stark truth 'if we fight there is every possibility we'll crash', rather than a deliberate threat to take him out, which from Damon's career doesn't really suit his character, but then again there would've been a certain irony of having his last ever win denied by a collision with a Schumacher.@@amp888
@@amp888 exactly! for Hill it was a 1-2 with Hill in 1st or nothing at all as he would crash both cars. Hill was gonna retire anyway so he wanted a last win before retiring. he knew that Ralf was here for a long time again.
The issue with spa was not whether we should race or not, it was (i hope) clear to everyone that the risk of going forward with racing was to high....the issue IMO was rather doing a parade lap just to hendout points
if only russell earned a pole position
1:59:50 - Massa claims Singapore GP should have no points for anyone, as the race should've been canceled because of the Crashgate. They took out his championship and that was an infamous spot on F1 history.
10/10 lotr joke! 😆 gets me every time!
1:42:04 Perez and Stroll had to miss races in 2020 because of covid too
Stroll did not have covid. He was suffering from stomach ache
This is Insane what a legend 30 years Ive watched this sport never seen anything like what we saw this year
Nothing better for a winter saturday morning
1:51:50 You did sin for robbing Bianchi his points😁😁
Jerez 1997 quali is one thing I'm surprised doesn't get talked about more, I think people underestimate how unlikely of an event it was especially with all their sector times being so far from each other, yet I've never seen any plausible conspiracy theory you can easily fit into it.
2007 was pretty fishy and tbh I think this may have been one of the reasons why Lewis joined Mercedes in 2013, it looked like a pretty risky and unexpected move back then. Oh, and when Ron said it was "$95 million for Ron being a t...", he was likely telling the truth.
Here's an idea for part 3 (its somewhat dull mind you and a tad vague), 100 lap races.
Here's a humble suggestion: Pedro de la Rosa's Sakhir track record. It lasted much longer than any other else from that era and tbh I never really understand how/why. If I'm correct it took 18 years to take it down.
I think it still stands
@@hasanmalik493 Indeed, it's not the best time set on that track (because pole laps were better) but it's still the fastest Grand Prix lap ever set there. Next year it'll be 20 years old!
RocketPoweredMohawk the funniest F1 You Tubers out there.
I had no idea what I was clicking on when I saw this video and I listened to it for a lot longer than I thought would but somewhere between if this happened and that didn’t happen and who was on first base, what is on second base, and I don’t know is on third base it suddenly dawned on me that while this is fine and good but in the end after all the would-a, could-a, should-a’s nothing is going to change history but then again it can sometimes be fun to play the what if game
Part 3:
Rio Haryanto driver of the day, 2016 Australian Grand Prix.
Imagine if all 3 were spot on on 1/10000 of a second as well
For part 3.
1. Blue Ferrari/John Surtees won the title in an American car*
2. Robert Kubica only needed one race to beat Nikita Mazepin
3. Mark Webber racing in his own pee and vomit
4. Danny Sullivan had a better Monaco performance than Jules Bianchi
5. BMW Sabotaged every team they left
6. Richie Ginther is the best American Born F1 driver
7. The Bus Stop at Spa isn’t a Bus Stop
8. Riccardo Rosset claims he was sabotaged
9. David Coulthard, Taki Inoue, and broken balls
10. Without Massa and Hamilton, Kimi and Kubica would have tied on points in 2008
11. Toro Rosso loves Sebestian but hates Sebastien
12. Nico Hulkenberg was robbed at Australia in 2023
13. Sergio Perez finished 10th in the points in 2019 in the 9th fastest car on the grid
14. Marc Surer
15. Martin Brundle flip(s) at Monaco
16. F1 driver nearly run over by ambulance/Brands Hatch is very dangerous
17. In 2021, Haas was using a B spec of Ferrari’s 2018 car.
Lucky Max isn't still alive, you'd find yourself in court for libel, and furthermore you would lose.
Not sure anything about that is “lucky”
Appreciate the hard work man but I’ve had 2x30 sec ads already 15 mins in. At that rate 10 minutes of ads is a bit much
We need a DDP video like this
23:45 Hamilton issued a statement saying "I'm a total coward and though I claim to be a Christian, I don't have the backbone to stand up for Christian values and can be counted on to stay silent while demons run amok in a godless world."
Hope the video will get his boom again, as he was the 3th best
I'd love to see what you hsd to say about Alpine's inability to secure contracts
When can we expect 90s car rankings
It's coming soon!
29:38 "Obelix"
As a brazilian, i have mixed feelings about Nelson Piquet. He's got a fantastic racing carreer, a very interesting history about how he managed to reach F1 without approval of his family. The man is a living legend, one of the most clever and talented racing drivers that ever lived, but his statements are unnaceptable, so i can't say i'm a fan. The worst of all is that many of his bad behavior are completely pointless, directed against people who never said or did anything against him. Such a shame.
A subject for part 3: how good would Johnny Herbert have been in F1 if he'd not had the horrible crash at Brands Hatch in 1988?
Hill / Coulthard level at best
Was the 2010 Grand Prix World Championship mentioned in Vol.1? Reading about it was really wild, and to me it's one of the biggest what-ifs in F1. Here's the Wiki article for some info: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Prix_World_Championship
Not mentioned either sadly
Goat wow man 2 and a half hours🎉🎉
In 2016 hamilton gets more points due to luck than rosberg:
In australia vettel lost win because of strategy, in bahrain vettel didnt start the race so lewis probably be behind him in the end, monaco won because of poor ricciardo pit stop, canada another bad strategy when vettel could won, in singapore if raikkonen stop earlier he hamilton would be behind kimi and japan probably outside podium because vettel was faster than verstappen who finished 2nd but was behind lewis due to strategy
Lewis had problems with a car but he also had a lot of luck in this season
Not to mention that in Bahrain he should've been kicked out of qualifying for reversing in the pits, in Monaco he should've been penalised for going off at the chicane and failing to lose a position, in Silverstone and Germany he benefited from Rosberg's dubious penalties, and in Belgium he got saved by the red flag and actually only overtook about 3 cars on track.
@@ihathtelekinesis in belgium he had easier job because vettel verstappen and raikkonen dropped behind him in first laps due to collision and pit visits
I didn't know Nasa was a F1 driver, I thought they were the scientific branch of Walt Disney?
You know its bad when a team rejects a experienced test driver who's the grandkid of a legendary world champion bc humpty dumpty has money
bro just took 2.5 hours of my life without asking
Ah, a fellow RPM fan
at 1:42:07 you made a mistake, as Sergio Perez had Covid mid season in 2020 and also Raikkonen in 2021.
Amazing second part of course. little memes and many controversies. Though Im not Picking a side here. but in conclusion Ferrari is really the most rigged team and you standing aside Ham in every situation. No Offence Super work Peter
19:49 I mean god love ‘‘em but South Africa can’t even keep the power on all week. Las Vegas was a disaster too. I’d stick to the standard courses.
LV was a disaster up until the race.
Then the race itself was really quite entertaining.
I can confirm rich energy drinks do exist I’ve had one and my god they are shit like drinking kerosene
Even if the concept of ground effect in 1928 made sense to the people at the time, I feel like it probably would still have failed since most Grand Prix-like races would be inappropriate for such a design. I highly doubt that Prevost's car would've felt the benefits at any track other than Indianapolis or Monza, as most races involved ungraded roads, or even worse, dirt. Makes sense why it was quickly forgotten until the 1970s.
1928?? you mean 1982 right? F1 started in 1950.
@@jiboo6850 Grand Prix racing took place well before 1950. Unless this is a bait.
@@johnbestavros6915 Grand Prix maybe but F1 started in 1950.
@@jiboo6850 I wasn't talking about F1.
@@johnbestavros6915 this is a channel about F1 talking about F1. so for what reason are you trying to talk about that? where in this video have you seen talking baout that? YOU create place for misunderstanding. so be clearer. 🙄
So Rosberg didn't beat Lewis in equal machinery. Interesting
What's the background music?
Nevada City - Huma-Huma
@@PeterBrookF1 Thank you
Vettel should have 7 championships
Well I learned something new that Guenther Steiner was Italian 😮
Turns out MoneyGram will be Haas's first title sponsor to stay for more than one season
They could've just given those drivers a point each in Silverstone 1954
1:42:02 Mazebin it into the tire barrier also got Covid during Abu dhabi 2021
Sergio Perez and Lance Stroll missed a collective 3 races due to Covid in 2020.
HOLY SHIT YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS WHAT A JOY IT IS TO BE ALIVE CAN'T WAIT TO WATCH IT LATER
2007 being rigged can also linked to how ferrari also gets paid at lot more than rest of f1 teams
That whole section on Monaco cheating is like a thesis on why that track needs to be eliminated from the calendar. That, and the fact that the races there are boring as shit. Nobody likes Monaco.
1:25:22 I remember that.
Deja vu
how come its always steins bergs and owitz' behind most of this stuff
3 wheels only work with Schumacher and Hamilton 😂
I find it funny that Vladimir Putin was on the podium in 2016 lmao
53:35 make sense to me
Do "how they CHEATED Sir Hamilton BLATANTLY and how RedBull got away with it, with the help of the FIA and was ALLOWED to keep their CHEATING advantage ever since" something like that anyway 🤷🏻♂️
Sorry, but at 22:50 you were wrong: it was never proven nor stated that 2019 Ferrari engine was illegal. Even the official f1 website states as much.
It was a grey area, exactly like the das, or the double diffuser. The das was allowed that season, and then banned for the subsequent year, for the engine in 2019 new sensors were added *immediately*.
Ferrari simply found a clever way to circumvent the rules, but never broke any of them.
Of course the details could not be shared, because that would have meant share technical knowledge proprietary to the team (the blueprints of Ferrari engine, that then could have been copied by any other team..).
And what happened later is often conveniently silenced, but apparently Hakkinen (I think?) shared it: Ferrari not only worked with FIA to find better regulations in fuel flow, but also served a secured penalty for 2020 and 2021, with a more restricted fuel flow than the other teams. “Allegedly”.
So, just to point it out:
- When Mercedes found a grey area, DAS, the regs were corrected for the subsequent season, and Mercedes could keep they das for the whole season, plus of course work on designing the car for the next season knowing the rules in advance. No loss for Merc, no penalty, no shame, grey area exploit allowed for a year.
- When Ferrari found a grey area, fuel flow, the rules were instantly changed, new sensors added, Ferrari instantly lost its advantage, and the then was punished for 1-2 seasons..
Just saying.
For reference that ferrari did nothing illegal:
www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.fia-reaches-settlement-with-ferrari-following-2019-engine-investigation.6beur1atKeTLvJHPEuHUJW.html
Well yes. The official story was very quiet and “they didn’t cheat”.
The whole thing about that topic is that people don’t believe it. They think it was a cover up and they technically were cheating.
28:45 If your name is rocketpoweredmohawk
1:56:36 who tf is felipei masser?😂
Ideas for part 3: mazepin spins and crashes on purpose 2 Indy car drivers judge f1 3 lewis Mexico gp booing 4 Perez crashed on purpose in qualifying at Monaco just to beat verstappen 5 Perez’s car is slower then Verstappen’s question? When is part 3?
Alternative title: butthurt Hamilton fan tries to deny the fact that Nico Rosberg beat Lewis Hamilton in equal machinery