Same in OT/PT In an 8 hour day, I have 14 patients I need to see 25-30 minutes each with " point of service" documentation , 90% productivity is required of me, no time to even use the bathroom 😮 The American Medical system has been imploding for years, but right now, I fear for my patients as often their basic medical needs are barely met. I can't stay.
I've been a nurse for almost two years and I'm constantly looking for a way out, especially bedside. The day this happens will be the happiest moment of my life. Never would I have imagined that hard work, effort, time, money and so much stress would equate to misery, depression, confusion, anxiety and unhappiness. The thought of doing this for a few more years terrifies and devastates me. It's funny how people smiled or praised me when they find out I was in nursing school, people have no idea from the outside. So glad you're in better space.
@Dancing Swords you basically slave your life away. You work and work and never appreciated. People treat you like trash. It's like your slowly killing yourself to take care of others. Constant Anxiety, depressions, really wears and tears on you mentally and emotionally so fast. Most people fully quit within just a couple years and for all it takes, that's not fair.
@Dancing Swords I've always enjoyed caring for others, thought it provided stability and would allow Me to be apart of great things. I had no idea that it would turn out how it has.
@@Bthe1only exactly. I love caring for people. But when I began working as a nurse, I slowly realized that is not what most hospital nurse jobs entail.
Same here. I started in the ICU in January 2020. I'm sick of nursing and when I think about work and all the bs we have to put up with, I feel like my heart is filled with hate. I'm studying for the mcat to apply to medical school. Come to med school with me!!! 😭
I left my staff job to do travel nursing and I have NO regrets. There’s so many lower acuity, less stressful travel jobs that even pay more than a stressful job as a staff bedside RN! It’s a really nice break and I will NEVER go back!
I traveled for two yrs, ER nurse...did ER for 19 yrs. Paid off my mortgage. Now I do drug and alcohol every other weekend and going into forensic nursing part time. ER nursing burned me out. So much happier and satisfied with my life.
Hi I witnessed an RN, about to give another dose of insulin after another RN just finished doing so. The computer system orders displayed on screen so she followed the screen order, myself and friend mentioned this was just done. She look scared and confused and then walk away to another room. She and then another RN were talking to each other about the instructions repeating on screen. Anyhow, RN did not give the second dose. The RN who accompanied her said she believes a Dr who just arrived must of ordered it, scared stuff ppl So I never got that other RN to care for our pt snd the other second RN left due to her shift so we had PCT and s new RN😩
I’ve been an RN for 24 years. It was the worse decision that I ever made. The only reason that it’s been tolerable for the last two years is that I ONLY work as needed. I can work as much or as little as as I want. Also, I now work in REHAB unit. Rehab has been the only specialty that I’ve been able to tolerate. My advice to young nurses is to either go for a NURSE PRACTITIONER career or NURSE ANESTHETIST. Otherwise, get out NOW! The hell with bedside nursing. It will eventually jade you and ruin your spirit. Good luck!
My husband and I have been nurses for 16yrs. Recently my husband (he is ER charge), said that they hired on an NP that will be working as an RN...there are way too many NPs and not enough jobs, so the NPs are working as RNs. Many NP jobs pay the same or less than the nursing jobs too, and schooling is expensive. We have heard so many regrets from RNs going to NP school. So we would say stay away from NP school unless you know jobs will be available and they will pay well. Otherwise stay away from healthcare! Maybe CRNA school is worth it, I honestly do not know the stats or job demand for that one.
41 years here as OPERATING ROOM RN. I agree with you on your five points but I also hate that we are forced to go back to school to get a BSN even when we have a Bachelors in another area. I have never been able to afford more so my opportunity to be a preceptor is non existent. Too old now to go to school again. However I believe a good manager and good environment help so much. We just got a nice raise because nurses were leaving for more pay. I like where I work and my managers are some of the best I have had. I have traveled and found only five or so really good places. I am now with my last employer six years in and looking to retire someday. Young nurses you need to find a place that works for you. Nursing school does not prepare you for reality so you need to be strong and find your way. OR gave me my life.
I just left my first nursing job because the management didn't or couldn't manage the unit. I can't do an incredibly difficult job without her support. My license and reputation was being put on the line in an incredibly unprofessional environment.
I saw quite a bit experienced nurses leave my unit the last two years. Half of our nurses have less than two years of experience. The pay is terrible compared to the workload, responsibilities and stress. The current inflation is a bout 5% but we are not getting inflation adjusted pay raise.
As long as there are new grads jumping in the field the hospitals, nursing homes don’t care if the more experienced nurses leave because they can keep budget low.
You're correct. But seasoned nurses train baby nurses. This is a 100% fail in regards to patient safety. Management either is clueless or don't give a 💩...probably both.
@@adaeze4873 no, vaccine mandates are not new. I have also been to nursing school. What is new are these two things... ignoring those that have built natural immunities and forcing them to get vaccinated. By definition, moving toward herd immunity has always included natural immunity. We have listed today, 42,501,643 people who have been tested positive for the virus. However, they are also being forced to get vaccinated. This is contrary to science. Additionally, to extend powers to OSHA instead of having this congressionally mandated is also unprecedented. So, while vaccines have been a large part of our past, there are some crucial things we are missing here that are not following scientific nor legal protocols.
@@kloatlanta does it? T-cells have long term memory. I believe you are talking about IgG which for both the mRNA vaccine and the virus, it does wane. Historical reference, the Spanish flu, why did not the elderly have high death rates? Because they had an outbreak of a similar form of the virus a generation before when these elderly were young. They build t-cell immunity. This is essentially the same method.
I’m a brand new nurse and I absolutely hate it where I am. I’m on a med surg unit and they are constantly putting us in unsafe situations. They’re about to raise our patient ratio from 1:6 to 1:8 in a couple of weeks, but yet they expect us to round on patients every 1-2 hours. It’s very unsafe.
That sounds very unsafe! In those types of situation, I would end up leaving. Personally it not worth putting my patients at risk and having that be on my hands.
Nurses eat their young and this culture has to stop! Start with yourself by being that understanding and helpful nurse to others. Kindness wins the day.
I'm working in the ER of my dreams,( I've been a nurse for 10 years) we all get along, we all help each other, most of the staff is brand new but that's ok.( I always tell them we are getting through this, our ER is the 2nd busiest in the city)However my L&D experience was exhausting, I was always criticized and put down, my preceptor told me I shouldn't be a nurse coz I sucked at it! I'm here to tell all new nurses if you encounter a preceptor like that RUN !!!
I think you totally got it right with these reasons. The thing I like about our unit it back at the beginning of covid we started a "good things" time in our morning nursing huddle. Where if we have something good to share, that is an opportunity.
Here because of all the news articles about not having enough nurses and or staff. They say it is all from covid, A veteran died supposedly because no hospital would take him for non covid reasons to get his procedure done, I just watched the news piece on that and at the very end for less then a minute defined there is a nurse shortage. I went to the source which is you a nurse herself glad I found your channel to reflect some sanity in the current news cycle. It's not that the hospitals are filled, It's that they don't have the staff to service those beds.
Nice info and true! I’ve been a nurse almost 20 years… and it seems that the long haulers… put up with a lot of what you are talking g about… I see many many transitioning out of the bedside either through educational advancement, and or more administrative job, mainly due to the closeness of retirement. Keep on preaching and teaching… nurses need the inspiration! That’s why I try to do what I do also… like you… educate and inspire nurses, new nurses, pre-nurses… cause we need them!
@@fRieNdlytravelers Well that would be a books-worth of information / changes!!! To name a few, charting was all on paper!!! AND medication administration used a "paper-MAR"!!!
Working as casual nurse or different career is the way to go. The culture, stress and burnout in nursing is not worth it. Most nurses who don't balance their work and life often end up with Chronic diseases and substance abuse issues. Always remember that we work to live, not live to work. God bless.
the shortages have affected us here in the Netherlands now too. overworked by covid collegues are leaving the ICU for other specialised nursing jobs. which only exacerbates the problem to the point were now beds are closed everywhere and patients are sent to germany or belgium.
After a lifetime of bedside care, overworked, underpaid, violence from patients and families, exposed to diseases and every type of trauma, no meals, no real time off, no bathroom breaks I am somewhat relieved to be somewhat retired. Honest nurses work against all odds and are insulted daily by the opinions of over educated administrators that have no idea about nursing realities.
The point of no return for me was the last doctor who ordered ridiculously pointless procedures for “learning” and had no consideration for practicality
I've done psych, medsurg, nursing homes, home care, jails, and blood donation. I've asked for raises, not got them and quit. I've never not worked short....ever.
I am a “staff nurse” watching my coworkers quit quit quit. Which makes it harder for us that stay to keep the ship afloat w mostly travel nurses who don’t give a F**K. But that’s another story.
@@Sarah-fy5gv 💯💯💯that’s wat people need to realize. I work full time agency/travel here & there wen we come to these facilities to work they want us to deal with the bullshit & over work ourselves which is the main reason we left from being a bedside staff nurse.
I prefer to be an outpatient nurse or an CRNA (Nurse Anesthetist) but everybody prefer their own preferences, I got a long way to go and im starting it with nurse aide.
As a nurse of 20 yrs in CVICU… your reasons are correct. I’m seriously contemplating switching, however the switch has to be comparable financially. I live in California- northern to be specific.. so the pay portion doesn’t apply to this region. These nurses make more than physicians where I’m originally from(TN). Unions and such ensure safe staffing, but this was an ever-present issue in the southern states. I can remember taking 3 critically ill heart patients; one fresh post-op open heart, a possible balloon, and chronic chf. Toxicity with older nurses is still an ever-present issue!!! It’s so bad… and we’re tired of the micro-management from management/administration!!
Your comparison to physician isn’t so accurate with how expensive it is to live in CA , taxes, etc. I would bet a good amount someone would be better off financially being a physician in TN.
Yeah it’s not even close.. TN doesn’t even have a state income tax, and the real estate there isn’t to bad. TN physicians are balling, you’re losing paying the gov & state 50% each hour you work and your real estate prices are astronomical.
Physician salary is coming out to almost a quarter mil/ yr. in TN. no way you guys are beating that in the icu with all the taxes and prices you pay in CA.
Yes, we do. I have intensive care physicians as personal friends and the nurses in California make more. Just speaking from personal experience. Physicians here make remarkably more- but then again they’d have to with the cost of living and taxes.
RN’s working for Kaiser in Northern California make big bucks. There is a channel on RUclips “nurses to riches”. Also in California we have staffing ratios. I worked for a short period of time in South Carolina, crummy pay and almost twice the number of patients. Couldn’t wait to come back to California. Can’t believe nurses in other states put up with the low pay and disrespect. It’s insulting.
Another reason…combative patients!! It doesn’t matter if they are detoxing or psyc or just angry. We get beat up all the time in the nursing home rehab!!
It is unfortunate that patients can be combative and very often face zero repercussions. I understand those dealing with certain psychological issues may not be completely culpable, but hospitals also need to ensure staff safety!
One of the biggest reasons I see my students quit nursing is absolute and complete burn out. Nurses have a tough job, "great nurses" have an even tougher job due to being overworked. #zerotoheroprogram #seeyouinclass
Hey Katherine. Working in the ER now, working short is just getting worse and worse. Patients are requiring more and more and workloads are increasing while compensation/staff is staying the same!!
@@Katherine_Ann It is difficult for sure. Staff retention is low, patient ratios are high. With new waves of COVID coming there is little resilience left... Personally, I have coping mechanisms which help but it can get overwhelming at times!
this is universal to all who work in pt care in hospitals. I've personally been in imaging for 15 years, and it's never been this bad from a pt care perspective and employee care perspective. pt are getting worse care and employees are treated as expendable numbers. maybe it's always been this way and I was blind to it, or it really is getting below acceptable levels of care. either way, most people I work with are miserable when it wasn't always that way.
I’m 8 months in on a medsurg unit as a new grad RN that I was a CNA for for 3 years. (This unit has been the COVID floor for 17 months but was/is neuro) I am burnt out with the meticulous care and the ER appeals to me bc of its prioritization but not sure if I’m ready yet- when is a good timeframe to transfer to ER? I want to change before I am fully burnt out and lose passion for nursing.
Also, there are so many piece of shit patients that don't take care of themselves and then expect us to fix them up so they can go home and repeat the process all over again. Example, diabetics that don't follow their prescribed diet or take their medicine like they are supposed to. I find my tolerance for this is becoming harder to handle.
Hey Ashley, I was on medical missions trips with people who had no formal medical training! They were limited in what they could assist with, but they were able to fill roles that were incredibly helpful. I think that's a great idea!
10 days at 12 hour shifts; One day off. More and more combative patients with mental issues; detoxing, then trauma patients. While understaffed in the ED with 7 rooms a nurse. 10 to 20 code gray's a shift.
Thank you Katherine! I'm about to start nursing school. There is so much going on in my mind right now. I've been thinking a lot about the pay. The question I have is, how much experience does one need before they can begin travel nursing? I'm also wondering if a higher pay rate may be able to be negotiated in lieu of benefits since my husband carries our health insurance. Of course employer mandated COVID vaccines, staffing and burnout are thoughts as well. I feel the Lord called me to medical missions but I'm holding off on that vaccine as long as I can.
Instead of making it all about the money, how about the unsafe and stressful working conditions and all the micromanaging? All the money in the world isn't worth putting my license on the line along with my health and sanity. If you just demand more money and not better working conditions and less micromanaging, what you're saying is it's okay and we'll keep putting up with it, just pay us more!
Not many. And if they wont get it they should not be in healthcare. They either dont understand research or dont care enough about protecting their coworkers and patients
Does a non-toxic work environment exist in nursing? I'm just curious to know if anyone is working in a good environment and how to find one? Change the culture?? Good luck!
I recently just left my position but I was working in an outpatient setting that was not toxic :) Of course there were pros and cons but it was nothing like what I had experienced in bedside nursing.
@@Katherine_Ann do you need to have bedside or even hospital experience to get those jobs? I’m just about to enter nursing school as a second career and watching these videos has me a nervous wreck about it. I’m too old for the go go go and the drama. I’d really rather just skip the hospital setting altogether unless it were something insulated from that like postpartum or PACU and work in a clinic/outpatient/office. But do they hire new grads?
Yh a non-toxic environment exists but you just have to move around a bit. If you’re able to work as an agency nurse then you can get that opportunity to work at different wards and find out where you like and then you can apply there full-time.
Hey Fsuandrea! I did say that, yes! Unfortunately the PRN position required full time orientation for 6 to 8 weeks which I cant do because of my full time job so that door has closed :)
So take a couple years off, big deal. You have your RN license, wait for this to blow over. Enjoy life for a couple years, you WILL find another job, dont panic.
I love being a nurse, but I can’t stand the lack of opportunity for growth. Where I am geographically is the highest paid area in the US (San Francisco), which is great in financial respects, but it comes at the cost of not being able to move around and do anything new or grow as a professional. The area is so saturated that hospitals don’t need to expend the resources to train internally when they can just hire outside and get exactly the specialized nurses they want, which of course they prefer to do. Why train a nurse for double the money when they can hire someone who doesn’t need much training? So it has become stale. It’s ultimately going to make me move away, just to be able to let my professional aspirations grow.
Thanks for your comment, Rob. That's a shame it is the way you described it. I can definitely see your frustrations. Best of luck to you if you decide to move!
I graduated in 2018. I worked as an ED nurse for 2 1/2 years and I have already left nursing. I have thought about going back.for the last few months and the idea literally makes me ill. I have started my own businesses and even though I am working a lot with that, I am 1000x happier.
@@Katherine_Ann I have looked into a a lot of different options. Never out patient. I am just so burnt out right now I don't even want to do anything related to healthcare.
A lot of the toxicity is self created. Kissing doctors asses while being mean to fellow nurses. Although I am a make nurse and a Marine I just simply won’t be disrespected by silly docs. In 16 years a single CT surgeon tried to to be mean to me and I told him if he ever talked to me like that he will find out how it is to operate with broken fingers. Mysterious that all four of his tires were flat. He was nice to me ever since. He told on me of course and I never heard from my manager or my director… not a single word. Stay out of the drama and gossip be clear unemotional and go to work to work not to chit chat. As a secret side note don’t take the easy patients take the hard ones. The vents, the drips, the traches, no admissions and no discharges.
For the number one reason, is it the hourly pay or with the stipends she is making more as a traveler. Pay might look like more but you need to consider that travel nurses do not get all the extra benefits that staff nurses get. Travel nurses may actually bring more home on paycheck but is it truly more pay?
Yes. It absolutely is more pay. You work 3 days a week. And bring home more in 1 week than staff nurses bring in 2. You can bring home 1100.00 a week even if you call in sick ONE day!!! And that was BEFORE pandemic pay! You are only taxed on a portion of your pay whereas staff nurses are taxed on all of their pay. Don't know what benefits a hospital staff nurse gets that offsets the pay. We work for money not meaningless gym memberships or discounted meals. Pay me and I'll buy it myself.
It’s because too many people go into for the money! If you’re in healthcare for the money, of course you’re gonna wanna quit! Every department gets understaffed in healthcare period!!!!!!
I’ve heard that toxic nonsense. Just another thing to bash nurses. Also calling it burnout leaving all the blame on the individual like they didn’t give themselves enough “self care”. Do you work a job for free? If not then you work it for the money right? We need money to live. The reality is majority of people have no clue how unsafe the hospital is. Forcing nurses to work short or without appropriate equipment which ends in some people’s death due to the shortage is out right criminal and leaves nurses disconnected from reality like she was speaking of not being able to emotionally connect. It’s abusive all around and people need to cut the crap. Nothing will change unless ALL the nurses stand together and say no more. Not trying to be harsh to your comment just tired of the same old narrative.
Another reason to leave bedside nursing is the excessive charting! I feel like hospitals prioritize charting requirements over patient care.
I totally agree. I often have to stay at least another half hour just to chart after a busy shift.
The charting used to be an informative record...now it is legalized protection for the corporation
THIS THIS AND THIS!!!!
Same in OT/PT
In an 8 hour day,
I have 14 patients I need to see 25-30 minutes each with " point of service" documentation , 90% productivity is required of me, no time to even use the bathroom 😮
The American Medical system has been imploding for years, but right now, I fear for my patients as often their basic medical needs are barely met.
I can't stay.
I disagree that complaining is toxic. Fake positivity is more toxic.
Nurses, nursing staff are all heroes . I'm a survivor of covid-19. I do appreciate your hard work you did . God bless all nurses. From Texas
You are so right ✅️
Thanks for watching!
I've been a nurse for almost two years and I'm constantly looking for a way out, especially bedside. The day this happens will be the happiest moment of my life. Never would I have imagined that hard work, effort, time, money and so much stress would equate to misery, depression, confusion, anxiety and unhappiness. The thought of doing this for a few more years terrifies and devastates me. It's funny how people smiled or praised me when they find out I was in nursing school, people have no idea from the outside. So glad you're in better space.
@Dancing Swords you basically slave your life away. You work and work and never appreciated. People treat you like trash. It's like your slowly killing yourself to take care of others. Constant Anxiety, depressions, really wears and tears on you mentally and emotionally so fast. Most people fully quit within just a couple years and for all it takes, that's not fair.
@Dancing Swords I've always enjoyed caring for others, thought it provided stability and would allow Me to be apart of great things. I had no idea that it would turn out how it has.
@@Bthe1only exactly. I love caring for people. But when I began working as a nurse, I slowly realized that is not what most hospital nurse jobs entail.
@@MiamiPush2theLimit isn't that crazy though? You have absolutely no idea until your actually in it.
Same here. I started in the ICU in January 2020. I'm sick of nursing and when I think about work and all the bs we have to put up with, I feel like my heart is filled with hate. I'm studying for the mcat to apply to medical school. Come to med school with me!!! 😭
I left my staff job to do travel nursing and I have NO regrets. There’s so many lower acuity, less stressful travel jobs that even pay more than a stressful job as a staff bedside RN! It’s a really nice break and I will NEVER go back!
Yeah I've heard people are much happier with travel nursing or working for insurance companies.
What exactly do you specialize in?
Please tell why are those
I traveled for two yrs, ER nurse...did ER for 19 yrs. Paid off my mortgage. Now I do drug and alcohol every other weekend and going into forensic nursing part time. ER nursing burned me out. So much happier and satisfied with my life.
Hi
I witnessed an RN, about to give another dose of insulin after another RN just finished doing so. The computer system orders displayed on screen so she followed the screen order, myself and friend mentioned this was just done. She look scared and confused and then walk away to another room. She and then another RN were talking to each other about the instructions repeating on screen. Anyhow, RN did not give the second dose. The RN who accompanied her said she believes a Dr who just arrived must of ordered it, scared stuff ppl So I never got that other RN to care for our pt snd the other second RN left due to her shift so we had PCT and s new RN😩
I’ve been an RN for 24 years. It was the worse decision that I ever made. The only reason that it’s been tolerable for the last two years is that I ONLY work as needed. I can work as much or as little as as I want. Also, I now work in REHAB unit. Rehab has been the only specialty that I’ve been able to tolerate. My advice to young nurses is to either go for a NURSE PRACTITIONER career or NURSE ANESTHETIST. Otherwise, get out NOW! The hell with bedside nursing. It will eventually jade you and ruin your spirit. Good luck!
My husband and I have been nurses for 16yrs. Recently my husband (he is ER charge), said that they hired on an NP that will be working as an RN...there are way too many NPs and not enough jobs, so the NPs are working as RNs. Many NP jobs pay the same or less than the nursing jobs too, and schooling is expensive. We have heard so many regrets from RNs going to NP school. So we would say stay away from NP school unless you know jobs will be available and they will pay well. Otherwise stay away from healthcare! Maybe CRNA school is worth it, I honestly do not know the stats or job demand for that one.
I hate the hospital and the way they ware killing people.
The problem is ... We hit the floor burnt out ...I traced my nursing burnout to nursing school... 20 years ago.
41 years here as OPERATING ROOM RN. I agree with you on your five points but I also hate that we are forced to go back to school to get a BSN even when we have a Bachelors in another area. I have never been able to afford more so my opportunity to be a preceptor is non existent. Too old now to go to school again. However I believe a good manager and good environment help so much. We just got a nice raise because nurses were leaving for more pay. I like where I work and my managers are some of the best I have had. I have traveled and found only five or so really good places. I am now with my last employer six years in and looking to retire someday. Young nurses you need to find a place that works for you. Nursing school does not prepare you for reality so you need to be strong and find your way. OR gave me my life.
I just left my first nursing job because the management didn't or couldn't manage the unit. I can't do an incredibly difficult job without her support. My license and reputation was being put on the line in an incredibly unprofessional environment.
I saw quite a bit experienced nurses leave my unit the last two years. Half of our nurses have less than two years of experience. The pay is terrible compared to the workload, responsibilities and stress. The current inflation is a bout 5% but we are not getting inflation adjusted pay raise.
Please pray for me.
Nurse Katherine 😍
As long as there are new grads jumping in the field the hospitals, nursing homes don’t care if the more experienced nurses leave because they can keep budget low.
You're correct. But seasoned nurses train baby nurses. This is a 100% fail in regards to patient safety. Management either is clueless or don't give a 💩...probably both.
Pay, vaccine mandates, overworked without support….
Vaccine mandates are a good thing, and they are not new. You had vaccine mandates to get into nursing school.
@@adaeze4873 no, vaccine mandates are not new. I have also been to nursing school. What is new are these two things... ignoring those that have built natural immunities and forcing them to get vaccinated. By definition, moving toward herd immunity has always included natural immunity. We have listed today, 42,501,643 people who have been tested positive for the virus. However, they are also being forced to get vaccinated. This is contrary to science. Additionally, to extend powers to OSHA instead of having this congressionally mandated is also unprecedented. So, while vaccines have been a large part of our past, there are some crucial things we are missing here that are not following scientific nor legal protocols.
Natural immunity wanes
@@kloatlanta does it? T-cells have long term memory. I believe you are talking about IgG which for both the mRNA vaccine and the virus, it does wane.
Historical reference, the Spanish flu, why did not the elderly have high death rates? Because they had an outbreak of a similar form of the virus a generation before when these elderly were young. They build t-cell immunity. This is essentially the same method.
I’m a brand new nurse and I absolutely hate it where I am. I’m on a med surg unit and they are constantly putting us in unsafe situations. They’re about to raise our patient ratio from 1:6 to 1:8 in a couple of weeks, but yet they expect us to round on patients every 1-2 hours. It’s very unsafe.
That sounds very unsafe! In those types of situation, I would end up leaving. Personally it not worth putting my patients at risk and having that be on my hands.
I have went through 4 videos and this was the only one that was full of info and to the POINT. Thx
Toxic work environment takes the cake.
I took a break and did travel nursing for a bit then came back to my staff job and it was the break I needed to keep from getting burnt out
Good for you girl, doing what you have to do to prevent burn out 👏🏼 -Kris
Solid points made here 💯
entitled families that are toxic
Nurses eat their young and this culture has to stop! Start with yourself by being that understanding and helpful nurse to others. Kindness wins the day.
Thanks for your thoughts!
I'm working in the ER of my dreams,( I've been a nurse for 10 years) we all get along, we all help each other, most of the staff is brand new but that's ok.( I always tell them we are getting through this, our ER is the 2nd busiest in the city)However my L&D experience was exhausting, I was always criticized and put down, my preceptor told me I shouldn't be a nurse coz I sucked at it! I'm here to tell all new nurses if you encounter a preceptor like that RUN !!!
I quit my nursing profession after being an RN for 11 years!
What do now?
@@prettygirl_1626 traveling around the World 🌎
I think you totally got it right with these reasons. The thing I like about our unit it back at the beginning of covid we started a "good things" time in our morning nursing huddle. Where if we have something good to share, that is an opportunity.
Here because of all the news articles about not having enough nurses and or staff. They say it is all from covid, A veteran died supposedly because no hospital would take him for non covid reasons to get his procedure done, I just watched the news piece on that and at the very end for less then a minute defined there is a nurse shortage.
I went to the source which is you a nurse herself glad I found your channel to reflect some sanity in the current news cycle.
It's not that the hospitals are filled, It's that they don't have the staff to service those beds.
Thank you for your comment, Anubis! I'm glad you thought my content was helpful.
Instead of writing people up try first talking to them nicely.I found I am going to let everyone know I am a better then then the others.
Always a great idea to treat people kindly.
Nice info and true! I’ve been a nurse almost 20 years… and it seems that the long haulers… put up with a lot of what you are talking g about… I see many many transitioning out of the bedside either through educational advancement, and or more administrative job, mainly due to the closeness of retirement. Keep on preaching and teaching… nurses need the inspiration! That’s why I try to do what I do also… like you… educate and inspire nurses, new nurses, pre-nurses… cause we need them!
Love this comment, super supportive. I’d be really interested to know more about how medicine has changed since you started nursing. -Kris
@@fRieNdlytravelers Well that would be a books-worth of information / changes!!! To name a few, charting was all on paper!!! AND medication administration used a "paper-MAR"!!!
Working as casual nurse or different career is the way to go. The culture, stress and burnout in nursing is not worth it. Most nurses who don't balance their work and life often end up with Chronic diseases and substance abuse issues. Always remember that we work to live, not live to work. God bless.
the shortages have affected us here in the Netherlands now too. overworked by covid collegues are leaving the ICU for other specialised nursing jobs. which only exacerbates the problem to the point were now beds are closed everywhere and patients are sent to germany or belgium.
Wow! Really?! I'm surprised that isn't talked about as much!
@@Katherine_Ann I feel the urgency but "those in charge" can't or do but don't care. the best warriors are patience and time though
Thank you for sharing very interesting,
Nurse of 27 years here and I couldn’t agree with you MORE……!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Toxic work environments are hell 🔥 on earth!!!!
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Great video! I appreciate your honesty!
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After a lifetime of bedside care, overworked, underpaid, violence from patients and families, exposed to diseases and every type of trauma, no meals, no real time off, no bathroom breaks I am somewhat relieved to be somewhat retired. Honest nurses work against all odds and are insulted daily by the opinions of over educated administrators that have no idea about nursing realities.
Hey, Maria. Thanks for your comment. I can relate to you on all of that. Those are unfortunate truths in our profession.
Not to mention call outs, they're astronomical.
The point of no return for me was the last doctor who ordered ridiculously pointless procedures for “learning” and had no consideration for practicality
I've done psych, medsurg, nursing homes, home care, jails, and blood donation. I've asked for raises, not got them and quit. I've never not worked short....ever.
niceee you know your worth
Good points!
I got my nursing degree from RUclips....
I am a “staff nurse” watching my coworkers quit quit quit. Which makes it harder for us that stay to keep the ship afloat w mostly travel nurses who don’t give a F**K. But that’s another story.
I'm so sorry to hear that Kyle! That sound frustrating.
It's not your job to keep the ship afloat
@@Sarah-fy5gv 💯💯💯that’s wat people need to realize. I work full time agency/travel here & there wen we come to these facilities to work they want us to deal with the bullshit & over work ourselves which is the main reason we left from being a bedside staff nurse.
In my experience the jobs where women were involved were significantly more political. Men just tend to get stuff done with no hard feelings and drama
Agreed! I prefer to work with men it's just easier.
I prefer to be an outpatient nurse or an CRNA (Nurse Anesthetist) but everybody prefer their own preferences, I got a long way to go and im starting it with nurse aide.
Im a LVN and its short staffed everywhere.
As a nurse of 20 yrs in CVICU… your reasons are correct. I’m seriously contemplating switching, however the switch has to be comparable financially. I live in California- northern to be specific.. so the pay portion doesn’t apply to this region. These nurses make more than physicians where I’m originally from(TN). Unions and such ensure safe staffing, but this was an ever-present issue in the southern states.
I can remember taking 3 critically ill heart patients; one fresh post-op open heart, a possible balloon, and chronic chf.
Toxicity with older nurses is still an ever-present issue!!! It’s so bad… and we’re tired of the micro-management from management/administration!!
Your comparison to physician isn’t so accurate with how expensive it is to live in CA , taxes, etc. I would bet a good amount someone would be better off financially being a physician in TN.
Yeah it’s not even close.. TN doesn’t even have a state income tax, and the real estate there isn’t to bad. TN physicians are balling, you’re losing paying the gov & state 50% each hour you work and your real estate prices are astronomical.
Physician salary is coming out to almost a quarter mil/ yr. in TN. no way you guys are beating that in the icu with all the taxes and prices you pay in CA.
Yes, we do. I have intensive care physicians as personal friends and the nurses in California make more. Just speaking from personal experience. Physicians here make remarkably more- but then again they’d have to with the cost of living and taxes.
RN’s working for Kaiser in Northern California make big bucks. There is a channel on RUclips “nurses to riches”. Also in California we have staffing ratios. I worked for a short period of time in South Carolina, crummy pay and almost twice the number of patients. Couldn’t wait to come back to California. Can’t believe nurses in other states put up with the low pay and disrespect. It’s insulting.
Another reason…combative patients!! It doesn’t matter if they are detoxing or psyc or just angry. We get beat up all the time in the nursing home rehab!!
It is unfortunate that patients can be combative and very often face zero repercussions. I understand those dealing with certain psychological issues may not be completely culpable, but hospitals also need to ensure staff safety!
One of the biggest reasons I see my students quit nursing is absolute and complete burn out. Nurses have a tough job, "great nurses" have an even tougher job due to being overworked. #zerotoheroprogram #seeyouinclass
Hey Katherine. Working in the ER now, working short is just getting worse and worse. Patients are requiring more and more and workloads are increasing while compensation/staff is staying the same!!
Hey Simple Fit Nurse! How has it been for your "burn out"? Curious you feel it getting to you more than ever now?
@@Katherine_Ann It is difficult for sure. Staff retention is low, patient ratios are high. With new waves of COVID coming there is little resilience left... Personally, I have coping mechanisms which help but it can get overwhelming at times!
this is universal to all who work in pt care in hospitals. I've personally been in imaging for 15 years, and it's never been this bad from a pt care perspective and employee care perspective. pt are getting worse care and employees are treated as expendable numbers. maybe it's always been this way and I was blind to it, or it really is getting below acceptable levels of care. either way, most people I work with are miserable when it wasn't always that way.
That's a shame to hear that!
I’m 8 months in on a medsurg unit as a new grad RN that I was a CNA for for 3 years. (This unit has been the COVID floor for 17 months but was/is neuro) I am burnt out with the meticulous care and the ER appeals to me bc of its prioritization but not sure if I’m ready yet- when is a good timeframe to transfer to ER? I want to change before I am fully burnt out and lose passion for nursing.
Also, there are so many piece of shit patients that don't take care of themselves and then expect us to fix them up so they can go home and repeat the process all over again. Example, diabetics that don't follow their prescribed diet or take their medicine like they are supposed to. I find my tolerance for this is becoming harder to handle.
Hey Ashley, I was on medical missions trips with people who had no formal medical training! They were limited in what they could assist with, but they were able to fill roles that were incredibly helpful. I think that's a great idea!
I completely agree!
why are there too many TONIC environments? Why? I noticed a lot of RN are grumpy!!
Unfortunately, J Lenn I see it everywhere, not even just nursing :(
10 days at 12 hour shifts; One day off.
More and more combative patients with mental issues; detoxing, then trauma patients. While understaffed in the ED with 7 rooms a nurse.
10 to 20 code gray's a shift.
Thank you Katherine! I'm about to start nursing school. There is so much going on in my mind right now. I've been thinking a lot about the pay. The question I have is, how much experience does one need before they can begin travel nursing? I'm also wondering if a higher pay rate may be able to be negotiated in lieu of benefits since my husband carries our health insurance. Of course employer mandated COVID vaccines, staffing and burnout are thoughts as well. I feel the Lord called me to medical missions but I'm holding off on that vaccine as long as I can.
Did you end up succumbing?
I left 🏥 22 years ago saw 🚩 🚩 🚩
This whole list is an accumulation of reasons that are basically bringing down nurses to the point where it even affects them at home.
Instead of making it all about the money, how about the unsafe and stressful working conditions and all the micromanaging? All the money in the world isn't worth putting my license on the line along with my health and sanity. If you just demand more money and not better working conditions and less micromanaging, what you're saying is it's okay and we'll keep putting up with it, just pay us more!
That's a great point!
What % are quitting due to mandatory vaccination?
I dont believe that number is known yet, of what I am seeing most organizations are mandating September time frame or Ocotber.
Not many. And if they wont get it they should not be in healthcare. They either dont understand research or dont care enough about protecting their coworkers and patients
ehhh We need better medicine. The V is clearly not working. ie High % of vaccinated people in hospitals in UK and Israel .
Does a non-toxic work environment exist in nursing? I'm just curious to know if anyone is working in a good environment and how to find one? Change the culture?? Good luck!
I recently just left my position but I was working in an outpatient setting that was not toxic :) Of course there were pros and cons but it was nothing like what I had experienced in bedside nursing.
@@Katherine_Ann What position do you hold now?
I just resigned but I was working in an outpatient transplant clinic/infusion center
@@Katherine_Ann do you need to have bedside or even hospital experience to get those jobs? I’m just about to enter nursing school as a second career and watching these videos has me a nervous wreck about it. I’m too old for the go go go and the drama. I’d really rather just skip the hospital setting altogether unless it were something insulated from that like postpartum or PACU and work in a clinic/outpatient/office. But do they hire new grads?
Yh a non-toxic environment exists but you just have to move around a bit. If you’re able to work as an agency nurse then you can get that opportunity to work at different wards and find out where you like and then you can apply there full-time.
two and a half minutes to even begin to get to the point....
U love Jesus?.😃🔥❤️🙏
I do!
@@Katherine_Ann ❤️❤️❤️❤️.. 😭🥰
Hit the nail on the head!!! Converted back to travel in procedures and couldn’t be happier! Didn’t you say you were going back to ED PRN?
Hey Fsuandrea! I did say that, yes! Unfortunately the PRN position required full time orientation for 6 to 8 weeks which I cant do because of my full time job so that door has closed :)
So take a couple years off, big deal. You have your RN license, wait for this to blow over. Enjoy life for a couple years, you WILL find another job, dont panic.
That’s a great comment!
You've got something there.
I love being a nurse, but I can’t stand the lack of opportunity for growth. Where I am geographically is the highest paid area in the US (San Francisco), which is great in financial respects, but it comes at the cost of not being able to move around and do anything new or grow as a professional. The area is so saturated that hospitals don’t need to expend the resources to train internally when they can just hire outside and get exactly the specialized nurses they want, which of course they prefer to do. Why train a nurse for double the money when they can hire someone who doesn’t need much training? So it has become stale. It’s ultimately going to make me move away, just to be able to let my professional aspirations grow.
Thanks for your comment, Rob. That's a shame it is the way you described it. I can definitely see your frustrations. Best of luck to you if you decide to move!
All these reasons are why i left nursing for engineering, the jobs was not worth my mental health
Wow, what a transition! What kind of engineering do you do now?
Your a Christian?!
I am!
@@Katherine_Ann well hello then their sister .that is so nice to hear..praise God .❤️😁
Long term made me hate being a nurse
That's unfortunate to hear!
Reminds me of nurse Ratched from "One flew over the cuckoo's nest".
Do you think nursing is worth getting into? Does 38k for an ADN program makes sense if you’re 34 and Marie’s with kids? It’s only 18 months?
That's quite a bit for a ADN program. I would encourage you to look at a local tech or community college!
I graduated in 2018. I worked as an ED nurse for 2 1/2 years and I have already left nursing. I have thought about going back.for the last few months and the idea literally makes me ill. I have started my own businesses and even though I am working a lot with that, I am 1000x happier.
@@RivergirlsHandmade Did you ever think about out pt nursing?! Happy to hear that you are happier though!
@@Katherine_Ann I have looked into a a lot of different options. Never out patient. I am just so burnt out right now I don't even want to do anything related to healthcare.
Thats way too much for an ADN program. Mine was around 18-20k
Nurse don’t get paid a lot as doctors you should go for doctor not nurse
Both professions have pros and cons!
A lot of the toxicity is self created. Kissing doctors asses while being mean to fellow nurses. Although I am a make nurse and a Marine I just simply won’t be disrespected by silly docs. In 16 years a single CT surgeon tried to to be mean to me and I told him if he ever talked to me like that he will find out how it is to operate with broken fingers. Mysterious that all four of his tires were flat. He was nice to me ever since. He told on me of course and I never heard from my manager or my director… not a single word. Stay out of the drama and gossip be clear unemotional and go to work to work not to chit chat. As a secret side note don’t take the easy patients take the hard ones. The vents, the drips, the traches, no admissions and no discharges.
So does a single defcon 1 level threat to shut them down not count as being "in the drama"?
@@user-wh2ei8qm6s in my case it was strategic decision and don’t regret it one bit.
Whoever dislikes these types of videos clearly hates nurses
For the number one reason, is it the hourly pay or with the stipends she is making more as a traveler. Pay might look like more but you need to consider that travel nurses do not get all the extra benefits that staff nurses get. Travel nurses may actually bring more home on paycheck but is it truly more pay?
Yes it is much more pay because you are taxed much less and many travel jobs do offer benefits now.
Yes. It absolutely is more pay. You work 3 days a week. And bring home more in 1 week than staff nurses bring in 2. You can bring home 1100.00 a week even if you call in sick ONE day!!! And that was BEFORE pandemic pay! You are only taxed on a portion of your pay whereas staff nurses are taxed on all of their pay. Don't know what benefits a hospital staff nurse gets that offsets the pay. We work for money not meaningless gym memberships or discounted meals. Pay me and I'll buy it myself.
That’s all nurses do is whine and complain and gossip all day… I want to go back to respiratory 😩
Unfortunately, I think you will find that everywhere!
Because women usually have some man to be the bread winner. Men are conscripted women are not.
It’s because too many people go into for the money! If you’re in healthcare for the money, of course you’re gonna wanna quit! Every department gets understaffed in healthcare period!!!!!!
I’ve heard that toxic nonsense. Just another thing to bash nurses. Also calling it burnout leaving all the blame on the individual like they didn’t give themselves enough “self care”. Do you work a job for free? If not then you work it for the money right? We need money to live. The reality is majority of people have no clue how unsafe the hospital is. Forcing nurses to work short or without appropriate equipment which ends in some people’s death due to the shortage is out right criminal and leaves nurses disconnected from reality like she was speaking of not being able to emotionally connect. It’s abusive all around and people need to cut the crap. Nothing will change unless ALL the nurses stand together and say no more. Not trying to be harsh to your comment just tired of the same old narrative.