Really helps! Good job! Do some more of this pleeeeas! I'll be nice to add some comparisons of after market upgrade parts too～！ Look forward to ur next upload~
Thanks! Nice to hear! There is a comparison between 1/72 Harriers and I have done some written comparisons in the past, I could make some of them into videos.. These take time, but I definitely make more of these in future.
Thanks! There are nice details options on Kinetic kit, but prhaps I had too high hopes for build experience, as Hasegawa went together much more nicely. I'm glad there are both options in the market.
Thank you for comparing these 2 kits👍🏻 I have the Hasegawa 1/32 in my stash with JASDF decals but I want to build it US Air force bare aluminum plus the plane in 1/32 is too big to display (1/32 decals USAF are hard to find and cost as much as the kit). I'll go with the Hasegawa 1/48. You mentioned ejector pin marks on flying surfaces, is there a lot of them and where? thank you again👋🏻
Thanks for your observations i have the italeri rebox of the Hasegawa G to build soon and as i love the Starfighter i would also like to build the Kinetic so this was a help . Regards Gav.
Great video. I honestly think that if I’m going to pay more than $70 for a kit that i would expect to see a great amount of detail and no much need for AM. Thanks for the input. Really helpful.
I've built both. One of the "criticisms" of the Hasegawa F104 are rivets where some people claim there shouldn't be rivets. I've seen 5 different F104s in different museums outdoors and indoors, i've stood only meters from F104s in real life, first there are indeed rivets on the top of the F104 wings, the Hasegawa kit is actually more realistic on that part, the Kinetic kit and the "correction" kit for Hasegawa devoid the rivets that are there in real life. While looking at period F104 photos they are hard to see, they are definitely there if you see them in real life. Same goes for the rear near near the engine, the Kinetic kit is devoid of rivets in this area, again having studied the F104 upclose, there are indeed rivets here as well. So it's up to you the modeler, are these rivets in exact pattern as shown on the Hasegawa kit, no, but it would be incorrect to say there are no rivets in those locations at all. But don't take my word for it, go out to museums, find the nearest F104 near you and take a look in person
Thanks for your comment! You are right, there are flush rivets on the wings and fuselage. I have seen Starfighter in real life. Normally rivets can't be seen if the plane is clean, but if there is some dirt those can be seen more easily. And I don't mind either way, as I build both as they are.
Kinetic has better details in the cockpit, but version C is the one I like the most, and for that reason Hasegawa is better in my opinion, it better represents the version that best defines the Century Series.
A couple notes: 1. That’s the ammo bay for the gun aft of the cockpit, not electronics. On an early CF-104 there was a fuel cell in here. 2. The Hasegawa wing detail is 100% fictional. No 104 was rivet encrusted like the Hasegawa wings. Also the wings and horizontal stab are all misshapen, you need the Daco set to get an accurate 104 out of the Hasegawa kit. The old Monogram is actually a more accurate 104 than the Hasegawa (but has its own set of issues around fuselage fit) 3. The decals in the Kinetic vary by boxing. Some boxes are very extensive, some less so. The Ammo boxing is probably the best right now. The Hasegawa decals also vary, their CF-104 decals are almost always trash (badly shaped Maple Leaf’s and cream coloured whites are the usual issues).
Thanks for good info! 1) I meant the electronics part that is just behind the cockpit, not the ammo bay after that. 2) I know that they are flush rivetted, but on dome planes there were dirt fron those areas and you coud fill those on Hasegawa if you want. 3) Interesting, that some has more stencils than others, and worse print. Hasegawa decals seems to yellow over the time. At least I have some old boxes that has yellowed decals.I would't perhaps count Ammo boxing for Kinetic as I wouldn't Eduard for Hasegawa. After all I liked the Hasegawa build experience more than kinetic, but I could build the Kinetic again if I could get some in good price.
The bay immediately behind the cockpit is the flight computer modules, not the ammunition bins. Lots of F-104s didn’t have cannons fitted, and all of them had those modules in them.
Kinetic wins by a mile simply because of the MUCH better surface details. The giant divots all over the Hasegawa kit completely ruin an otherwise decent kit. But Kinetic blows it out of the water on every count. It’s more accurate, much nicer surface detail, much better selection of extras like wing tanks.
I agree that Kinetic has better details, but Hasegawa goes together much nicer. Those Hasegawa wings are easy to fill and sand, or buy artermarket parts. But I would build either of those again.
![Lockheed F-104C Starfighter 1/48 (Snoopy Sniper) [Hasegawa] build and final reveal](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/W49XEUOCc8I/mqdefault.jpg)
Really helps! Good job! Do some more of this pleeeeas! I'll be nice to add some comparisons of after market upgrade parts too～！ Look forward to ur next upload~
Thanks! Nice to hear!
There is a comparison between 1/72 Harriers and I have done some written comparisons in the past, I could make some of them into videos..
These take time, but I definitely make more of these in future.
good vid :)
In my opinion the Kinetic kit wins by a large margin but it is just my opinion. It has more details, builds easy and is more complete
Thanks! There are nice details options on Kinetic kit, but prhaps I had too high hopes for build experience, as Hasegawa went together much more nicely. I'm glad there are both options in the market.
Thank you for comparing these 2 kits👍🏻 I have the Hasegawa 1/32 in my stash with JASDF decals but I want to build it US Air force bare aluminum plus the plane in 1/32 is too big to display (1/32 decals USAF are hard to find and cost as much as the kit). I'll go with the Hasegawa 1/48. You mentioned ejector pin marks on flying surfaces, is there a lot of them and where? thank you again👋🏻
I'm glad you liked my video. Ejector pin marks are on bottom side of and quite easy to fill, no major issue. Good luck with your build!
Thanks for your observations i have the italeri rebox of the Hasegawa G to build soon and as i love the Starfighter i would also like to build the Kinetic so this was a help . Regards Gav.
I'm pleased if my video helped. I also love Starfighters. There will be more Hasegawa Starfighters..
Great video. I honestly think that if I’m going to pay more than $70 for a kit that i would expect to see a great amount of detail and no much need for AM. Thanks for the input. Really helpful.
Thanks, I'm glad to hear you liked my video and felt it was helpful.
I've built both. One of the "criticisms" of the Hasegawa F104 are rivets where some people claim there shouldn't be rivets. I've seen 5 different F104s in different museums outdoors and indoors, i've stood only meters from F104s in real life, first there are indeed rivets on the top of the F104 wings, the Hasegawa kit is actually more realistic on that part, the Kinetic kit and the "correction" kit for Hasegawa devoid the rivets that are there in real life. While looking at period F104 photos they are hard to see, they are definitely there if you see them in real life. Same goes for the rear near near the engine, the Kinetic kit is devoid of rivets in this area, again having studied the F104 upclose, there are indeed rivets here as well. So it's up to you the modeler, are these rivets in exact pattern as shown on the Hasegawa kit, no, but it would be incorrect to say there are no rivets in those locations at all. But don't take my word for it, go out to museums, find the nearest F104 near you and take a look in person
Thanks for your comment! You are right, there are flush rivets on the wings and fuselage. I have seen Starfighter in real life. Normally rivets can't be seen if the plane is clean, but if there is some dirt those can be seen more easily. And I don't mind either way, as I build both as they are.
They look as good as each other... sleek and chic! 👍✈️
Thanks! Starfighter is very nice looking aircraft.
Kinetic has better details in the cockpit, but version C is the one I like the most, and for that reason Hasegawa is better in my opinion, it better represents the version that best defines the Century Series.
Nowadays Kinetic also has C-version. I like the C-version, but there is something about S-version that I like a lot.
Both kits didn't offer a pilot, that was very disappointing 😕 !
Today only Tamiya still offering pilots in their 1:32/1:48/1:72 series.
Yes, quite strange that even Hasegawa didn't have a pilot as Hasegawa offers pilots at least in their F-16 and F-8 kits..
I have the Hasegawa GJ version and it effectively come with pilots
A couple notes:
1. That’s the ammo bay for the gun aft of the cockpit, not electronics. On an early CF-104 there was a fuel cell in here.
2. The Hasegawa wing detail is 100% fictional. No 104 was rivet encrusted like the Hasegawa wings. Also the wings and horizontal stab are all misshapen, you need the Daco set to get an accurate 104 out of the Hasegawa kit. The old Monogram is actually a more accurate 104 than the Hasegawa (but has its own set of issues around fuselage fit)
3. The decals in the Kinetic vary by boxing. Some boxes are very extensive, some less so. The Ammo boxing is probably the best right now. The Hasegawa decals also vary, their CF-104 decals are almost always trash (badly shaped Maple Leaf’s and cream coloured whites are the usual issues).
Thanks for good info! 1) I meant the electronics part that is just behind the cockpit, not the ammo bay after that. 2) I know that they are flush rivetted, but on dome planes there were dirt fron those areas and you coud fill those on Hasegawa if you want. 3) Interesting, that some has more stencils than others, and worse print. Hasegawa decals seems to yellow over the time. At least I have some old boxes that has yellowed decals.I would't perhaps count Ammo boxing for Kinetic as I wouldn't Eduard for Hasegawa.
After all I liked the Hasegawa build experience more than kinetic, but I could build the Kinetic again if I could get some in good price.
The bay immediately behind the cockpit is the flight computer modules, not the ammunition bins. Lots of F-104s didn’t have cannons fitted, and all of them had those modules in them.
@@j.heilig7239 I agree
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Think I will stick to monogram!🙄
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Kinetic wins by a mile simply because of the MUCH better surface details. The giant divots all over the Hasegawa kit completely ruin an otherwise decent kit. But Kinetic blows it out of the water on every count. It’s more accurate, much nicer surface detail, much better selection of extras like wing tanks.
I agree that Kinetic has better details, but Hasegawa goes together much nicer. Those Hasegawa wings are easy to fill and sand, or buy artermarket parts. But I would build either of those again.
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Nothing, I'm just not confortable with it.
@@TV-ez4md Understood. Some great info provided by your vid. nonetheless
@@strontiumstargazer103 Thanks!