1939 Ford Junkyard Hot Rod Revival - Ep. 13
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- In the last episode of the Forgotten Hot Rod Project Matt and Brett worked on taking apart the suspension to prep for paint. Today Matt is going to work on cleaning every up in preparation of paint, and with some help heat and bend the steering arms to clear the drop axle. We also received a few packages in the mail from Old Yankee Speed Co with some new parts for the project. We look forward to using their products on this build. Hopefully by the end of the next episode we will have the frame all back together as a roller. In just a few episodes we will be placing the body back onto the frame so be sure to subscribe to keep up to date on the build!!
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Intro/Outro - Don't Look - Silent Partner - RUclips Music Library
Pickup Truck - Silent Partner - RUclips Music Library
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It's such a spin out to go back and watch older ITG episodes. Still great now as they were then.
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This is the type of dirty work that a lot of guys just won't do and it brings a project to a screeching halt. I love that you are willing to do this stuff yourself. Ray from Ohio
It’s half the fun I think! Nothing like sitting back and looking at the parts all cleaned up and reassembled!
well said Ray from Ohio. It's certainly easy to get discouraged. I'm in my first project car and definitely am running into tasks where I say "there's no reason why that should have been a ___ week project" but such is the reality. That and I'm still cutting my teeth in this stuff, so I know it's not going to come easy out of the gate.
@@Str8sixfanA wise man once said " The difference between the impossible and the possible is determination ". Those of us who insist on doing it all themselves understand this. Ray
If you guys & Jonathan W were the only channels on RUclips I'd still be a very happy viewer.
Longer shackles were first used in the 30's but...they make the car get a real sway on though. If you use them ,fit a panhard rod from a 46-48 V8 . I also used to make my own reversed eye springs by rolling them through the plate roller at work.
I usually tru to cut those metal outer bushing sleeves in half with a sawzall inside of the bore and push them out with a punch, or similar. Those bores are smaller compared to most cars so it would be difficult, and it’s hard to just cut through the sleeve and not the bore. Great job as always and hope to see it rolling next video
Yea I wish I could have gotten a saw in there!
Jonathan W's intro music played. nice touch! i like that song
Might be worth investing in the dustless Media blasting attachment for your pressure washer might help you a lot when removing rust. I'm thinking about getting it myself and the reviews look good.
While dropping steering arms, it a good time to correct Ackermann if the axle is going in a different wheel base vehicle.
Like seeing you do the work and not just say, hey we did this...good job being resourceful. Great work.
You got some cool parts there Matt, can't wait to see how it makes putting the engine in that mush easier. Be nice to see it as a roller so you can move on to tackling that body, looking forward to seeing how you go about it..
Matt any video that you all do is fun you're showing us the way it should be done thanks
Thanks for watching Chuck!
Thanks guys for the reply back and I apologize for the little rant that Pushrod and I got into a month or so ago over the music being to loud but I like the hammer blows and beep beep beep when you hit your hand with it been there done that I really enjoy y'alls ability the carry the ART along THANKS AGAIN
Hey bud, This is the type of videos that I love to watch. Love watching how guys manage to get shit done with normal tools or how ever they can do it ie-the reamer. Love the drop spindle and how it's done. Keep them coming. This was the best video you've done (In my mind anyway) - Later
Thanks so much Marvin! We’re trying to keep these videos “real” and show the good and the bad! We don’t always have the “right” tool and gotta make stuff work sometimes!
Nice job on bending the steering arms. I like seeing how the old hot rodding building was done.
Thank you for sharing.
Way to go Matt ... great details of this next build ...
50 years ago I was taught at mechanics school never apply heat to suspension components. It can alter the molecular structure of the metal and weaken it. Any comments from qualified metallurgist or heat treatment specialist would be appreciated guys thanks from Australia.
... look up dropped axles, and bending Henry Ford spindle arms. Best steel in the world, was Henry's. Hot rod tradition, was and is ... doing exactly, what we see here. Take care.
They should have only heated to red/orange hot to avoid EXACTALLY what you mention. What do expect from someone who does not bother using the correct tools to clean bored holes for spring bushings, spindle bushings, and the like. The Ford manual mentions these tools: you REAM the holes.
@@rogerc.roberts4705 Obviously you missed the part when the "bushing" he was replacing popped out. You know the bushing that got stuck on the end or the reamer he had to use because he didn't have a drill bit that large. He wasn't sizing the bushing he was removing it to be replaced. You don't ream a spring hanger to size. Do you have any idea how many million trailers with floppy holes and bolts passing through their hangers there are out there? Oh and the only holes you "ream" are the kingpin bushings after they are driven or drilled out and replaced.
@@mattmoilanen3813 Then take the time to explain what you are doing. People don't read instructions, they do "what the guy did in the video".
@@rogerc.roberts4705 He did explain it and if you don't know what he did why would you make a comment about how he doesn't know what he's doing. Seriously, this isn't a tutorial video. He's just showing you what he did. Oh and you did cite the Ford manual insisting it was supposed to be reamed and your wrong. As I stated the only bushing that needs to be reamed is a kingpin bushing after R+R. It's easier to just admit you may have been incorrect and move on learning says the voice of a 38 year Master ASE mech.
Nice give away fro some lucky viewer :) Thank you guys for the great videos
Great work, Can't wait for the next video! Happy Sunday Matt.
Solid progress guys.
Man ... you look so happy, working on all your goodies. Dig it, always ! Thank you.
Having a great time getting dirty and building old cars!
Love watching your progress on the '39 Ford can't wait to see it finished 😎
Hey Barry Allan. You make lightning fast progress. Looking good.
Nothing like a good power washer, once you get use to having one, you’ll power wash everything.
Heck yea it’s awesome!
My week really only has 3 days to it. Sunday, Tuesday and Friday. Hmmmm...why is that? This winter I'm gonna find me a Model A Tudor to make a cool hood and fenderless Rusto-Rod. I dig the TROG vibe. Oh, great episode btw.
great video. looking forward to seeing this 39 ford as a hot rod. keep it coming along.
Well done again Matt.......Good progress......!
Another great episode, hard work means fun when done
Good stuff. Thanks Matt.
This is the job I really wanted to see. Hi from Uruguay
Looking good. Keep up the good work guys 👍
STANDING IN FRONT OF THE " FORGOTTEN " SWEETHEART ROADSTER 👌👌👌👌👌👌👌
Yep after Hershey I'm back on that once or twice a week. I can't wait! -Matt/ITG
I am jealous of your "parts bin" seems like you are always saying you had something laying around that seems to work for your projects. I hope someday I can have the same level of stash!
I find that during and after scoring your stash of old parts and pieces somewhere they say your a horder.
Of which I'm sure I'm guilty of by looking at all my out building's. But I always say, you can't have enough projects, tools or money. I have found that parts vehicle is cheaper than parts stores . If you know what I mean.
Just gotta hunt an set aside stuff you know you’ll use commonly. I’m always hunting!
After bending those steering arms you should have them magnafluxed. Your life could be riding on those old and now altered arms.
I agree , wouldn't be my life!
@9:09 that's some trust but any tool slippage or either gentleman's misjudged movement there will be pain and an everlasting reminder. Peace...be safe.
Cool video!
Good stuff my friend 👍 great progress.
I always get jealous when i see these pressure washing videos, i dont know about you but up here in alberta canada they would hang me for washing my truck in the drive way never mind degreasing a rear end lol
Great Video, Guys! Lookin Real Good!
Progress!
I'm really enjoying this series of videos.
Thanks.
Just about every Ford product with a droped axles went through the heating process, are there any still on the road? That should answer your question...
@@rogerc.roberts4705 ?
@@johnapel2856 comment must have post in wrong place. reference was to heating/bending steering arms.
@@rogerc.roberts4705 Aha.
Understood.
@@johnapel2856 I can't understand how my cell phone does that now and then as I had the correct comment called up.
Keep up the good work! sooooooooooooo jealous! greetings from Canada across lake erie in windsor ontario
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rough crowd !
Somebody commenting about applying heat to suspension components not a good idea. Well , lol, it’s been done over here for ever shaping bending making it conform . Seems to work.
Only been done since the beginning of automobiles. At one time that was how you “aligned” a car.
@@IronTrapGarage ,I dig your videos! I collecting parts for a 40 ford build myself, what axle did you use after all?
New sub. I’m loving this great content. 👍👍☮️
Goo info great tip
I'm wanting to do an axle drop on my 51 international pickup truck but I have never done anything like that before. As far as building a jig to make sure both sides of the axle are the same i can do that. But what I worry about is will that make the axle soft and bend later going down the road. Also i saw you bending something on the spindle. What was that and how much of a bend did you put into it?
Muito bom....
Wish you could have explained on how you heated and bent the spindle arms with better video of it.
Why was the camera on the wrong side of the axle during the heat/bend process? You never bothered to actually shiw how the stock spindle arm interferes with the ends of a dropped axle. These are not HOW TO videos you are presenting, they are "what did he do" videos.
You didn't bother to mention steering geometry...
Another question.
When you drop the spindles do you lose any of the steering radius? Or do you just have to lengthen the tie rod ends???
No real lose I’ve noticed. I just adjust the tie rods to fit when aligning it
Use power on your reamer if you must, but NEVER turn it backwards. Even when removing, keep turning clockwise.
fron Brazil
In dropping the steering arms, how are you ensuring that the Ackerman angle remains the same as stock and is equal on both sides. I had a car with a mere 17thou difference between sides and the left front tyre used to get chewed up until I found the cause and was able to do something about it.
I'm not trying to be disagreeable but 17 thou did not eat up your tire. You do realize that you have rubber bushings in your a arms that allow at least a 1/2 of movement at the wheel in a turn. And because Ackerman only affects wheel position in a turn you would have to be in a corner all the time. 38 year Master ASE talking here with an alignment certification. An alignment rack won't even read that fine of an increment. And I don't know how you would ever measure it as an alignment rack will not measure ackerman.
@@mattmoilanen3813 Totally agree, I did have to replace that tyre every 18 months, it was not like an instant thing, and I did have help from a BMW factory trained mech to establish the exact cause. Despite all the alignment checks I had done this anomaly was never picked up. I did not seriously think that 17 thou would make that much difference, but it was the only thing I positively establish as being wrong, after much messing about and measuring and making little jigs to find the difference. The steering arm had been bent, probably from hitting a pot hole or kerb before I even bought the car. As you point out the wear only took place while the wheels were not it a straight line. It did not affect handling at all, BMW is know for it's road holding, and I was never let down in a "sticky" situation. Like going into a bend a little faster than I should have and only then realizing that the bend is a lot sharper than anticipated. Many thanks, it is through these exchanges of information that we all learn.
@@mattmoilanen3813 Seeing as though you are a suspension/alignment guy, maybe you can answer my original question, how to accurately establish the ackerman angle.I'm building a "T" Bucket and I'm stressing over how to do this. I've seen many hot rods that don't look right, and I'm wondering if I'm the only one worried about this.
@@claymileson6456 It's a difficult process to get real close. Theoretically if you pass a line from what would be the center of the tire on the ground located up to the spindle and to that to the center of the rear diff both side to side and intersecting the axle centers the outer tire rod end will fall on that line. In some racing applications they may not run any Ackerman at all due to the increased slip angles of the tires. To make a long story short you should locate the center of the spindle or approximate where the wheel mounting flange will be located and pull a string from there to the center of the rear end. Then just look down from directly above the string and see if your outer tie rod end mount hole falls under the string. You truly do not need to worry if it's not right there as it only affects steering while turning and straight line handling is not affected by Ackerman at all. Most guys with buckets and big motors have a handful to drive no matter what steering you have. If you need a better description of Ackerman than I gave you just Google it and make sure you have coffee ready for the long read. If I can help with anything specific don't be afraid to ask and I'll try to explain it better.
@@mattmoilanen3813 Many thanks Matt, You have confirmed that I am on the right track. I have already done exactly as you have described, and have put my mind at rest, maybe I'm just stressing for nothing.
Mat, off the wall question.
Was wondering if you guys mount/dismount your own tires there at the shop or do you take them out to be done?
Just got a new set of tires from Coker. Going to mount them on a set of 16.35s. Going to give it a try myself.
Yep I will sometimes mount them myself if I don’t feel like taking them into work. Just get a good set of tire irons and don’t pinch the tube!
Got them done today. 👍
Just started watching your channel, what is the story here, do you restore these cars for sale or for individual customers who send them to you?
We only work on our projects. Eventually some do get sold but currently there are none for sale
An old timer told me to never run a reamer backwards. Said it will cause the cutting edge to chip.
We will keep that in mind! Thanks
Hey Matt: Isn't what you was heating and bending the "steering arms" ??? They may be cast as a integral part of the "spindle" but isn't the spindle the part that mounts directly to the axel, holds the front hub and wheel bearings, and allows the front wheels to pivot on the end of the axel?? Isn't what you were bending properly called "the steering arm"?? Or, are they only called that when they are "removable"??
That was some "cheater" you had on that pipe wrench. ;o)
I’m sure that’s correct. Sometimes I generalize a statement. You guys should get what I mean. ;)
The grill on That car in the garage isn't lined properly?
Got any v8 60 parts?
truly appreciate your progress, but bending those steering arms seems like it would reduce the leverage factor and make high speed tracking very unstable?? School me on old school techniques.
don't you have a rosebud .. that cutting tip will crystalize metal
Torches are not the cause of "crystalized" metal. Crystallization occurs from incorrect rapid cooling after heating. Heating metal to an orange/red color and allowing air cooling will soften the material that results in annealing or normalizing it. This method is used every day thousands of times by panel fabricators and after welding chrome moly when the localized heat will cause embrittlement of the weld and material.
Not overly interested in your shackle plates but if you are interested in selling your 52 chevy in the corner since you're a Ford guy and I'm a Chevy guy I might be interested in talking to you about that.
Sure make me an offer I can’t refuse and I might consider it. Irontrapgarage@gmail.com.
Is heating and bending streering parts safe
Only been done since the beginning of automobile repair.
@@IronTrapGarage really, didn't know this
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Make longer videos you'll have more subscribers
Power reamer? I don't even know er!
Use safety glasses while using a torch bro
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What are you guys using to shoot your video on? Also looks like 4K. Thanks love you series just subscribed and sent to like ten of my buddies. You guys are a lot like us. Thanks.