Loving the frequent Bazaar uploads - clocked out of this channel ages ago after BGs became boring, but I’m happy to see the goat back with a game I’m loving
@@Pinko-Diamond I ran into an absurd freezing shield Dooley build he came up with. I wasn't beating a mediocre build in that run, nevermind Kripp's death machine His name seems to be Kripp, in game
At 35:05 you comment about the weather machine. That card is absolutely busted. It has a 3 second cooldown which freezes 1 item for 2 seconds and slows another for 1. It's also a tool, vehicle, and property which means it has insane synergy with a large number of skills and items. If you'd slot it in with the dam and metronome you basically only need a clamera to permafreeze everything once the dam goes off. I've won multiple games finding it with Vanessa. It's insanely strong.
Kripp, thank you so much for introdusing me to The Bazaar. Amazing game. And it's very entertaining to watch you play. So please don't stop posting Bazaar videos!
One of the big things I realized while watching kripp play this is that he always knows if he can or can't beat the npc encounters he gets. When you start playing this, you lose so much by overestimating or underestimating you ability to clear those. The result is you end up being incredibly weaker later game, it's a very big deal.
This game "shouldn't" have the same problem as typical card games, because you don't own any of the cards. You just pick up what's there. If cards are undertuned, they just won't be chosen. When your carpet has 10 or fewer cards on it at all times, and there are hundreds of cards in the game, there will always be something to do. I'm more worried about the giga high rolls than nerfs. Cards like Dam and Skyscraper are terrorizing the meta atm, and it would be good to tone them down.
Since the dam's ability destroys itself, they could just make it so that being destroyed prevents the additional activations from multicast. I'm surprised it doesn't work like that currently.
They should just fix that multicast doesnt check for the game state.Dam cant multicast since it kills itself after the first cast, dinos needs to check opposite board state after each cast.
About the forcability - This, Knives and Property are builds you can pretty much force in 80% of games you play. Thats the single bigegst problem with bazaar rn. We badly need bigger pools. I love the game, I love playing it flex, but it feels sooooo bad to just hit one of 3 builds every single fight day9+ and if you arent one of those 3 builds, you loose. You can argue that this game is not competitive so it doesnt matter if you loose, but it just feels wrong.
That's just a crazy build! Someone hit me with this build this morning and I didn't know what happened until after my stuff had all been destroyed. An absolutely wild experience...
I really enjoy the game, and imo broken builds are not the problem, but how often you can get them, it's really easy to get Skyscraper build going with Pyg, to the point where yesterday every single fight I had from day 5 onwards were against it, so it becomes really boring, it would be cool to see it once a week and you're like "what the hell was that", but instead you say that when someone has a build that doesn't one shot you.
I wonder if theyll tweak the builds themselves or how "forceable" they are. Part of the design goal seems to be a focus on chaotic drafting and hard to force busted synergies, but some shops have a narrow selection of items that allow you to REALLY aim for the broken stuff build if you have their building blocks, or if you have a crazy economy. Game is really cool, excited to see where it goes.
My guess is just that each hero is lacking enough items in their pools for them to really enforce that chaos. Whenever they add more I guess it's gonna get better.
Meanwhile, in EU, Vanessa is the only character. All people are stuck in Bronze because of the games not counting for rewards issue, meaning all skill levels are stuck in Bronze V. From day 4 plays Knife (kunai) critical builds, and the one who wins is the one who gets the holster (which is a build that can be done consistently) so he one shots people easily. And countering may be possible, especially with other characters and monster skills, but is not consistant. I hoped I was on NA to have fun with you guys, anyway, love your videos Kripp!
Im in the UK and can play all 3 characters. Though i am having the issue with not being able to get rewards. Anytime I finish a run and return to the main menu i dont get a reward and the button says 'Resume' not play and it takes me back to day 1 of a run. I have to then conceede if i want to play another character.
Use VPN to the USA. Lets you connect to NA server and you can play as normal, get rewards from your games as intended, and maybe even fight against kripp xd
Oh man, I remember watching Kripp back in the day for HS arena, but unsubscribed ever since Blizzard started going mask off since I no longer play their stuff. Now that Bazaar is going up, it's time to return. We're so back.
stumbled upon this build when memeing with something else, and it saved my run so freaking hard. After that I noticed that it is actually fairly easy to force, since you are very likely to see a dam and shipwreck, and has almost no requirements from your starting build other than picking up some aquatic items on the way. Clamora / freeze are obviously the best item combinations, but a decently leveled life preserver isn't bad either if you don't hit the nuts, since it will save you from getting 1 shot by some of the other top builds.
Skyscraper pig imo can be forced just as much as Vanessa dam, managed to farm roughly 20 tickets with prop pig tryna take advantage of it b4 they nerf it that way I can just snowball my ranked runs to hopefully run them indefinitely.
Love the Bazaar content! As much as I dislike Dam builds, it was very satisfying seeing that skyscraper build instantly lose lol I have noticed, the game spikes in difficulty around day 10, maybe slightly before, when the 'unfair' builds show up, then sort of gets easier past day 14ish (if you can somehow survive w/o permafreeze, instacrit, skyscraper, big llama, dam, or the rest!). By then all the skyscraper and dam pygs and vanessas are mostly gone, and instead you just see turbo scaling robots, which are hard, but more beatable w/ relatively 'fair' builds. It feels really weird to be able to 10 win perfect run w/ some early spike janky build more easily then get just a solid build to the 8+ wins line. Hoping to see nerfs bringing the outliers in line soon
Throwing knives triggering infinitely at the start of the fight is hard to beat, but that involves specific items from multiple characters, so not exactly likely. I'd say that the two best competing builds are property and throwing knives where property is easier to bring online and throwing knifes caps higher. Property is also just easier to force.
Throwing clam yoyo with 100% crit and ammo reload on critvskill. That's an infinite damage at the start of the game. Its not 100% foolproof but pretty close to it
They’re all good. Realistically any build that can one shot under 2-3s and tech to slow opponents down is the winning play. Property is the most consistent at this.
Yea property build just doesn't feel good way to easy to come online and when you come across it it's not fun or engaging. I don't mind losing but knowing what's coming when I see pig and 4 cards come up is just defeating
Was watching this video while playing and was offered the Dam, Deadly Shipwreck and the captains wheel in the same shop, while I already had the seashell and catfish because I was doing a poison build. Immediatly switched builds just to try it out ahahah
The funniest vanessa build i have gotten is the kunai that is used when it crits with the skill that reloads when it crits. It infinitely procs itself. Got it to 100% crit on day 5 and mega nuked every single person. Enchant with cannot be destroyed if possible. If you dont get the skill its a loss tho
Nothing beats the insta-cast throwing knife. Got me my first 10 win in ranked. (Unfortunately). Sure you can maybe win with freeze or slow but I haven’t ran into many slow or freeze late game.
22:55 I dont think it's true that damage over time can crit. What is true is the application of the effect to the enemy (the "attack" if you like) can crit. Lets think about why this is (besides the fact if you watch the video , they are clearly not critting), whats the Crit rate of the dot? It could have been applied by a whole host of crit values, so what does it use? First applied? Most recent? Average?
@@Zakading unfortunately, then, Reynad misspoke slightly. Dots cannot crit on tick, only on original application. AS well as watching every single frame of this video, you can always watch any burn build video as well. Im guessing it was the one where Rarran played Dolley Burn. It's worth noting that Shield halves burn - so that can confuse things a little. If you are a player, please don't build poison or burn decks becuase Reynad told you the ticks can crit, you'll be disappointed!
Meanwhile she can get a 1k damage knife that instantly procs off one of the instant cast items but with adjacent item + crit to instantly kill most people
The burst builds are making the game not fun at all, whether it's the instant burt or the delayed burst. Knife and Yo-Yo are easy nerfs. Make it so they can't trigger on themselves or copies. The Pyg burst builds, I think it was Skyscraper, will be a harder balancing act.
crazy that i had this build today but unfortunatley got destroyed by 1.8 sec pig with his broken skyscraper. Cant win against 10k dmg and afterwards at 9 wins lost against vanessa with her infinite knife build that also won at 1.5 sec ... So i dont think this is the most broken when the other 2 build are way easier to get and faster.
I saw a version of this build last night with piranha and 5x multicast clam which was way more impressive than this build, but it remains funny all the same
the damn shouldnt be able to multicast as part of its cast is to destroy itself this build is stupid and makes no sense. Another thing that needs fixing.
My favourite Vanessa build so far was Submarine, Crow's Nest, Captain's Wheel and Swash Buckle. Get anything that increaes your submarines damage, all the crit you can. Often my submarines end up with +1000 Crit in an extremely long fight, which can give you like + 4000 damage on your submarine with the right skills. Since it lifesteals and shields you end up with 80000+ shield and like 5000 damage per hit with a cooldown of 2 seconds that's perma hasted.
playing "fair" is like amazing until day 12 you can go easy 6 wins with good builds but after day10 you start to only meet 2second 100k dmg builds or some of that dam crap :( even if you can stop them in like 3sec they just go and kill you before 3 sec xD
You keep saying that this game is played opportunistically. That's simply incorrect. I've faced the insta kill skycraper 300k shield build almost every single run.
Yeah, unfortunately, the Skyscraper build is probably one of the easiest builds to force at the moment it seems. It requires very little to get it going.
Loving the frequent Bazaar uploads - clocked out of this channel ages ago after BGs became boring, but I’m happy to see the goat back with a game I’m loving
Same.
same here , happy to be watching Kripp again
same
Saaame. BG is so ugly and boring honestly. Glad to be watching Kripp again
Kripp: "Poison is the worst by far."
Also Kripp: "Wanna see some people die slowly without a chance to fight back?"
lol this build is bonkers. love watching kripp continue to terrorize the beta. i need a compilation video of people facing kripp’s late game
U know his bazaar tag?
@@Pinko-Diamond I ran into an absurd freezing shield Dooley build he came up with.
I wasn't beating a mediocre build in that run, nevermind Kripp's death machine
His name seems to be Kripp, in game
0.7 Radiant Skyscraper sends his regards.
Actual 0seconds exodia instakill weapon Vanessa sends her regards.
@@bencegergohocz5988 wtf is that
O second Perma freeze 20k HP Pygmalion sends his regards
This counters it, it freezes at start of combat
@@jtowensbyiii6018 "Radiant" = "This item cannot be Frozen, Slowed, or Destroyed" Enchantment, so no it doesn't
At 35:05 you comment about the weather machine. That card is absolutely busted. It has a 3 second cooldown which freezes 1 item for 2 seconds and slows another for 1. It's also a tool, vehicle, and property which means it has insane synergy with a large number of skills and items.
If you'd slot it in with the dam and metronome you basically only need a clamera to permafreeze everything once the dam goes off. I've won multiple games finding it with Vanessa. It's insanely strong.
Kripp, thank you so much for introdusing me to The Bazaar. Amazing game. And it's very entertaining to watch you play. So please don't stop posting Bazaar videos!
One of the big things I realized while watching kripp play this is that he always knows if he can or can't beat the npc encounters he gets. When you start playing this, you lose so much by overestimating or underestimating you ability to clear those. The result is you end up being incredibly weaker later game, it's a very big deal.
"This cannot multicast" would fix it.
honestly, this is better than all the turbo nerfed card games out there... for now
This game "shouldn't" have the same problem as typical card games, because you don't own any of the cards. You just pick up what's there. If cards are undertuned, they just won't be chosen. When your carpet has 10 or fewer cards on it at all times, and there are hundreds of cards in the game, there will always be something to do.
I'm more worried about the giga high rolls than nerfs. Cards like Dam and Skyscraper are terrorizing the meta atm, and it would be good to tone them down.
Since the dam's ability destroys itself, they could just make it so that being destroyed prevents the additional activations from multicast. I'm surprised it doesn't work like that currently.
@@JohnJohnson-vq7ze Yeah i feel like an item should have to still be on the board to multicast.
They should just fix that multicast doesnt check for the game state.Dam cant multicast since it kills itself after the first cast, dinos needs to check opposite board state after each cast.
Brother im very happy for you and Reynad that the bazaar videos are performing so well! :)
About the forcability - This, Knives and Property are builds you can pretty much force in 80% of games you play. Thats the single bigegst problem with bazaar rn. We badly need bigger pools. I love the game, I love playing it flex, but it feels sooooo bad to just hit one of 3 builds every single fight day9+ and if you arent one of those 3 builds, you loose. You can argue that this game is not competitive so it doesnt matter if you loose, but it just feels wrong.
please spell lose right
@geasslelouch Im sorry I learned 2 languages since birth and none of them was english my bad buddy how dare me
@@curlybloke101 cool story now spell it right
@@curlybloke101 neither of them were*
@@geasslelouch good, I'm gonna kill myself screaming it's your fault.
That's just a crazy build! Someone hit me with this build this morning and I didn't know what happened until after my stuff had all been destroyed. An absolutely wild experience...
I really enjoy the game, and imo broken builds are not the problem, but how often you can get them, it's really easy to get Skyscraper build going with Pyg, to the point where yesterday every single fight I had from day 5 onwards were against it, so it becomes really boring, it would be cool to see it once a week and you're like "what the hell was that", but instead you say that when someone has a build that doesn't one shot you.
SKIPP THE KRIPP 3:52
Final review didn't even speak abt his poison scaling😢.
Maybe do like Rarren's laatest video where he shows a pop-up description of every item he buys. Makes the game easier to follow.
I wonder if theyll tweak the builds themselves or how "forceable" they are. Part of the design goal seems to be a focus on chaotic drafting and hard to force busted synergies, but some shops have a narrow selection of items that allow you to REALLY aim for the broken stuff build if you have their building blocks, or if you have a crazy economy.
Game is really cool, excited to see where it goes.
My guess is just that each hero is lacking enough items in their pools for them to really enforce that chaos. Whenever they add more I guess it's gonna get better.
@@tatsunithelennyking2540 thaey are gonna add 20 items per character per year so that's gonna take a while
@@tatsunithelennyking2540 yeah, i think diluting the pool will make the game really shine and its already very cool.
As we know, this is the final version of the game, so unfortunately, we are stuck with this state of the game /s
@@missingdays1 Seriously, what the hell happened to the gaming community that we have talks about forcing and nerfing during a closed beta.
Meanwhile, in EU, Vanessa is the only character. All people are stuck in Bronze because of the games not counting for rewards issue, meaning all skill levels are stuck in Bronze V.
From day 4 plays Knife (kunai) critical builds, and the one who wins is the one who gets the holster (which is a build that can be done consistently) so he one shots people easily. And countering may be possible, especially with other characters and monster skills, but is not consistant. I hoped I was on NA to have fun with you guys, anyway, love your videos Kripp!
Im in the UK and can play all 3 characters. Though i am having the issue with not being able to get rewards. Anytime I finish a run and return to the main menu i dont get a reward and the button says 'Resume' not play and it takes me back to day 1 of a run. I have to then conceede if i want to play another character.
Use VPN to the USA. Lets you connect to NA server and you can play as normal, get rewards from your games as intended, and maybe even fight against kripp xd
Btw the official Bazaar twitter page recommended that to EU players while they try to fix the issue, so dont think it would be any trouble
The freeze enchantment truly pushed the build into exodia territory.
Oh man, I remember watching Kripp back in the day for HS arena, but unsubscribed ever since Blizzard started going mask off since I no longer play their stuff.
Now that Bazaar is going up, it's time to return.
We're so back.
+1
stumbled upon this build when memeing with something else, and it saved my run so freaking hard. After that I noticed that it is actually fairly easy to force, since you are very likely to see a dam and shipwreck, and has almost no requirements from your starting build other than picking up some aquatic items on the way. Clamora / freeze are obviously the best item combinations, but a decently leveled life preserver isn't bad either if you don't hit the nuts, since it will save you from getting 1 shot by some of the other top builds.
I really hope they make it so that things that destroy themselves can not multicast. And it'd make sense as well, since multicast is sequential.
A good way to nerf it would be to make the multicast not afect the Dam, easy and fast way to solve it.
Dam that's crazy
Enjoy the video, everyone!
Skyscraper pig imo can be forced just as much as Vanessa dam, managed to farm roughly 20 tickets with prop pig tryna take advantage of it b4 they nerf it that way I can just snowball my ranked runs to hopefully run them indefinitely.
Same. Easily forced
I had a radiant skyscraper build with the property (castle walls?) That give enemy items +2 second cooldown. That was really unbeatable.
housing market in such dire straits a literal dam is considered a property now
Love the Bazaar content!
As much as I dislike Dam builds, it was very satisfying seeing that skyscraper build instantly lose lol
I have noticed, the game spikes in difficulty around day 10, maybe slightly before, when the 'unfair' builds show up, then sort of gets easier past day 14ish (if you can somehow survive w/o permafreeze, instacrit, skyscraper, big llama, dam, or the rest!). By then all the skyscraper and dam pygs and vanessas are mostly gone, and instead you just see turbo scaling robots, which are hard, but more beatable w/ relatively 'fair' builds. It feels really weird to be able to 10 win perfect run w/ some early spike janky build more easily then get just a solid build to the 8+ wins line. Hoping to see nerfs bringing the outliers in line soon
his skycraper build was low hehe, mine wouldve 1shot after 1 second for 250k :D
As soon as Kripp said multicast and Dam I knew it was going to be busted.
Crazy combo definitely needs a nerf
The fact there is 2-3 crazy builds per hero is amazing. Glad to see some nerfs and hopefully buffs on less items.
I love builds where your opponent doesn’t get to play the game.
Which is actually better? The Dam build? The property build with phonograph and haste? Or the throwing knives with clam and yoyo?
Throwing knives triggering infinitely at the start of the fight is hard to beat, but that involves specific items from multiple characters, so not exactly likely. I'd say that the two best competing builds are property and throwing knives where property is easier to bring online and throwing knifes caps higher. Property is also just easier to force.
Throwing clam yoyo with 100% crit and ammo reload on critvskill. That's an infinite damage at the start of the game. Its not 100% foolproof but pretty close to it
They’re all good. Realistically any build that can one shot under 2-3s and tech to slow opponents down is the winning play. Property is the most consistent at this.
@@daniellogan8355 i always pray for the gorgon gaze freeze skill at 50% hp just for when i meet daggers XD
Yea property build just doesn't feel good way to easy to come online and when you come across it it's not fun or engaging. I don't mind losing but knowing what's coming when I see pig and 4 cards come up is just defeating
sugestion to balance the dam: It cannot trigger if it is already destroyed, then just make each trigger individual
Every time i thought this build was insane, it got even better! The freezing shipwreck is wild XDDD
This prevented me from getting 10 wins! Thanks Kripp! Very ethical!
what an amazing game, just blown away by how great this stuff is
The Ship&Dam build:
When we say ship it,
They say dam-it!
Was watching this video while playing and was offered the Dam, Deadly Shipwreck and the captains wheel in the same shop, while I already had the seashell and catfish because I was doing a poison build. Immediatly switched builds just to try it out ahahah
The funniest vanessa build i have gotten is the kunai that is used when it crits with the skill that reloads when it crits. It infinitely procs itself. Got it to 100% crit on day 5 and mega nuked every single person. Enchant with cannot be destroyed if possible. If you dont get the skill its a loss tho
Dam should absolutely not work with multicast since it destroys itself.
its like playing rock paper scissors with the kid who spams dynamite
Nothing beats the insta-cast throwing knife. Got me my first 10 win in ranked. (Unfortunately). Sure you can maybe win with freeze or slow but I haven’t ran into many slow or freeze late game.
Bruh, just got the game and thought Skyscraper-Spacescraper combos were the pinnacle of BS, instantly humbled
22:55 I dont think it's true that damage over time can crit. What is true is the application of the effect to the enemy (the "attack" if you like) can crit.
Lets think about why this is (besides the fact if you watch the video , they are clearly not critting), whats the Crit rate of the dot? It could have been applied by a whole host of crit values, so what does it use? First applied? Most recent? Average?
Reynad did say in Rarran's video with him that burn damage can actually crit.
@@Zakading unfortunately, then, Reynad misspoke slightly. Dots cannot crit on tick, only on original application.
AS well as watching every single frame of this video, you can always watch any burn build video as well. Im guessing it was the one where Rarran played Dolley Burn.
It's worth noting that Shield halves burn - so that can confuse things a little.
If you are a player, please don't build poison or burn decks becuase Reynad told you the ticks can crit, you'll be disappointed!
I did loose with this build against freeze build, but if you can put the unfrozen and unbreakable enchant on the dam this is the best build ever ;D
I think the devs need to nerf Krip and make him play against his own broken builds.
52:50 wait, is this enemy library public and available somewhere?
I wish the battles went for at least about 10 more seconds before the sandstorm kicks in. I feel like it wraps things up WAAAAAY to quick
The throwing knife build needs to go for me to enjoy this game again.
I got a video in my feed claiming to be able to beat this before it goes off, not sure how, haven't actually watched it.
Meanwhile she can get a 1k damage knife that instantly procs off one of the instant cast items but with adjacent item + crit to instantly kill most people
Backback heroes looks amazing :D
The throwing knives is pretty easy to force too, probably 50-60% for me so far
Glad Krio has something to play other than HS. I boycotted HS like 2 years ago.
Damn that seems like an OP build
I got the dam and multicast both diamond and i got 7 wins in normal, not even ranked. Not sure if this has to be nerfed or fixed.
I’m absolutely loving the bazaar
This Dam game.
im curious if an item says can't be frozen or slows or destroyed is that just for 1 instance of destroy or freeze ??
It only makes me sad that when I finally get to play the game this build will already have been nerfed 😢
The burst builds are making the game not fun at all, whether it's the instant burt or the delayed burst.
Knife and Yo-Yo are easy nerfs. Make it so they can't trigger on themselves or copies.
The Pyg burst builds, I think it was Skyscraper, will be a harder balancing act.
Did the Dam thing.
Why keep the shovel the whole time?
This build is good, but can it beat 0 second throwing knives or 0.7 second skyscraper 😂
After 10 years I can't switch...
why happens if you win/lose combat against other players?
Can you pause the game and take a break? Seems like you have to play for like 40-60mins every time?
While the runs can take that long the game is wholly asynchronous and you can pause them at any point for however long you want with no penalty
47:10 Uh oh 😂
I haven’t watched the whole video but are the games actually an hour long?
yes
crazy that i had this build today but unfortunatley got destroyed by 1.8 sec pig with his broken skyscraper. Cant win against 10k dmg and afterwards at 9 wins lost against vanessa with her infinite knife build that also won at 1.5 sec ... So i dont think this is the most broken when the other 2 build are way easier to get and faster.
just lost to the same Exact build .... Feelsbadman
Funny retromation just uploaded a vid with a multi dam. But maybe not as efficient.
Genesis 38:18 The birth of essence evil.
even if you run 10 small items good luck beating this build after it goes off with one item
Dam broke.
Nerfing the rock, paper and scissors doesn't change the game
loving this game and your videos long live bazaar
Who created this build? ;) ;)
be dammed
fix the audio balance jesus christ
12:00 blew my ears out
very ethical
I saw a version of this build last night with piranha and 5x multicast clam which was way more impressive than this build, but it remains funny all the same
some big Dam plays for sure!
the damn shouldnt be able to multicast as part of its cast is to destroy itself this build is stupid and makes no sense. Another thing that needs fixing.
only missplay was not upgrading the dame imo
Dooly is crying in the corner
Item destruction needs to be removed, it will be near impossible to keep it balanced.
ZA HANDO!!!
I dont think this destroy mechanic is very fair.
My favourite Vanessa build so far was Submarine, Crow's Nest, Captain's Wheel and Swash Buckle. Get anything that increaes your submarines damage, all the crit you can. Often my submarines end up with +1000 Crit in an extremely long fight, which can give you like + 4000 damage on your submarine with the right skills. Since it lifesteals and shields you end up with 80000+ shield and like 5000 damage per hit with a cooldown of 2 seconds that's perma hasted.
playing "fair" is like amazing until day 12 you can go easy 6 wins with good builds
but after day10 you start to only meet 2second 100k dmg builds or some of that dam crap :(
even if you can stop them in like 3sec they just go and kill you before 3 sec xD
hey guys how's it going Karan here
GOD DAM
I really think the vannesa crit build is better. I died with 12k life in less than 2.2 seconds
Just not enough Large Vanessa items so this build is too forcable
So is this a single player game?
Man your build is pretty slow you have to go off in less than 1.8 sec or you will be oneshoted in ranked by Trowing knife infinite DMG build.
The Krippler
We playing yugioh now
how bazaar
You keep saying that this game is played opportunistically. That's simply incorrect. I've faced the insta kill skycraper 300k shield build almost every single run.
Yeah, unfortunately, the Skyscraper build is probably one of the easiest builds to force at the moment it seems. It requires very little to get it going.