Voting for Trump is 1000x more "right" than Harris. The only reason why we get garbage candidates is because nobody votes for the "better" candidates. Like you, clearly trump is the better option but instead of voting for him you'll vote nothing which evens the playing field for someone like biden or harris.. so that's why we are where we are right now as a country. Go ahead and keep not voting while the evil left votes for pandering politicians that only care about gay rights, abortions, raising taxes, gas prices, etc..
Winston Churchill said: _"Many forms of Government have been tried and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time; but there is the broad feeling in our country that the people should rule, continuously rule, and that public opinion, expressed by all constitutional means, should shape, guide, and control the actions of Ministers who are their servants and not their masters."_
@@kapitan19969838 You said: _"Did he mention that most people don't have a faintest idea about running a country?"_ Churchill wrote and said an awful lot, so he probably made a comment on this at one time or another. There is one that is falsely attributed to him that goes _"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter."_
@@kapitan19969838 You said: _" I know that one. Wise words, wouldn't You agree?"_ Wise and pithy. Churchill-worthy, though not actually by him. I think a lot of disillusionment with "democracy" is caused because people misunderstand its purpose. Democracy is not and cannot be a guarantee for the best policies, only for policies that do not pizz off so many people that a peaceful transfer of power would become impossible. That is the purpose of having elections; to make sure the people in power have so much support from the population at large that a revolt would be silly, and making these elections a regular thing ensures that any majority of dissenters would only have to bide their time for a handful of years.
@@hansdemos6510 Well ain't that a breath of fresh air! Some honesty around the purpose of democracy! What do You personally think about the effectiveness of democracy as a governing system?
I'm voting whether it counts or not. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil
I will be voting for as many Christian conservatives as I can find here in the People's Republik of Komiefrornia... God save us. Also God bless brothers and sister...
I think it's ridiculous not to vote. I don't think it's as corrupt as the questioner thinks. Even if it is, you should still vote. Because it's a win/lose if you vote. And it's a lose/lose if you don't vote. It's not like our elections are like North Korea's "elections." (spoiler, those can hardly be called elections). If anything, I think the people who don't/won't vote shouldn't have credibility when criticizing the country when they themselves won't make the decision to affect it. Heck, all this applies even if you're not a Christian.
@@flight2k5 There are only evils to vote for. We are all evil. But to run away from it because no one running is good (only God is good), is foolishness.
@droe2570 'there are only evils to vote for and we are all evil' don't even dare equate my 'evil' or 99% of the population's evil with what's present at Washington. Its not anywhere near close! Right to vote includes abstaining from voting.
when you have millions of illegal immigrants and dead people voting, it’s pretty corrupt. When there is video evidence of fake ballots being stuffed in the middle of the night all over a city, it’s pretty corrupt. He’s not wrong. But yes, I would say don’t make it easy for them to steal an election like they did before. Keep voting.
@@jasonmitchell7550 You are welcome to believe that, but i'd argue that attacking someone because they choose not to vote is the truly immature thing to do. If a person doesn't believe either candidate represents their interests, then they are not required to lower their standards to appease the candidates' supporters. _They_ are the ones who throw tantrums, especially the Trump supporters.
We are to be good stewards of what God has given us. For those of us residing in a country in which we have the ability to vote, then I think our stewardship should include voting for whoever best represents God’s values and as Frank Turek says, we leave the results to Him.
@@cs77smith67 it doesn't, but it also doesn't say a Christian should give someone a car ride that is in need of one. The principles are there. The person literally cited stewardship. We should also seek truth and if it's true one candidate's policies are better than the other and you can discern that, you would be taken inaction where you could help people. This weird concept that something should be said explicitly in the Bible and that you should ignore the principles of the Bible is a strange take
Unhappy with your bank, you switch banks and take your money elsewhere. Don't like the state you live in, then move to another one that you like more. Don't like the political candidates on your ballot, then consider running for office yourself. Is any of this easy, no. Switching banks is a time consuming nuisance, and running for office takes time, commitment, and fundraising. Yet, nothing worth having in life is ever easy. Christians not voting is a tragedy.
And the earliest people here formed the Mayflower Compact which was one of the things used by those who set up our form of govt. If moral, godly people do not run for office and vote, who do these Christians think will fill in those places and votes. I really do not understand where they get those ideas.Jesus said to make disciples of all nations, not people. Without moral leaders with the principles set up by the constitution. Which are Christian . Just sad. Letting evil prevail might be a sin.
Right. Christians not voting, not running for office, not holding people accountable and not staying informed on the issues is why all this nonsense is going on right now. Proverbs 29:2: "When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn
It’s a faith issue and it’s wrong to guide someone against what God may be calling them to do. These are both candidates who declared an enduring industrial slaughterhouse for the unborn. We can boycott and swing the whole right into a people who know the art of making a deal.
@@NJ-ju8fr that just isn’t true. One openly advocates for the murder of the unborn till birth as federal law. And the mutilation of children. The other doesn’t. That one has said and still says it is up to the states, which is what the Constitution says. That person was also instrumental in putting Supreme Court Justices on the Court. That was instrumental in overturning Rowe v Wade. The one who is for murder up till birth wants to pack the court and add to court with justices who think like they do.But the one who helped overturn Rowe v Wade is also against mutilating children . We live in a republic, not a democracy that one keeps saying. You get no perfect candidates. Not getting involved is how we got where we are right now. Not voting for the one who believes it is a state issue will get you more destruction of this country. Jesus said to go and make disciples of all nations, not people. Without a nation that has leaders with some sort of moral values, you as a Christian can expect to be next in line that have your rights taken away. First candidate I mentioned is all for that, along with taking away your 1st and 2nd Amendment. We know how the economy is under the first one. We also know how the economy was under the 2nd one. I’ll take the second one.
If our voting system has been repaired so that another election can not be stolen from We The People, then the Emergency Broadcast System needs to let every American know it has been repaired so they will vote knowing their vote will count. I don't want to vote if the winners are automatically "selected" by the New World Order, which has been happening for decades, maybe a century, but I am going to vote just in case our system has been repaired & we just haven't been told, which would be a tragedy.🙏
Eh, I'm not sure I agree. This isn't a case of "Oh the system isn't perfect." this is a case of "The system is corrupt, so me doing the right thing doesn't matter, the only right thing would be to rebuild the system." But no one is going to do that.
Doing the right thing always matters- regardless of the outcome. The Lord knows. James 4:17 17 “Remember, it is sin to know what you ought to do and then not do it.” We are to honor the Lord and do good. It doesn’t honor Him, nor does it do anyone any good if we just throw our hands in the air and let corruption escalate. We are to stand against it- even if we don’t get the outcome we hope for. Remember- the Lord measures our success, not by how well people respond to us- but by how well we respond to Him.
We have let the system become corrupt. We are our government. We don’t hold them accountable and at the local level where affects us most, we vote even less. Our churches are not standing up to all sinful things going on in this country. Corrupt government happens when good moral Christians don’t vote and run for office. And not everyone is called to do that. We are called to vote and support good candidates who believe as we do.
100% of people who don't vote, don't have their votes counted. It's really not that hard. They can only cheat SO much, not voting is just giving them the victory.
Which system in our society is not corrupt? All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men (and women) to do nothing! Elections have real-world temporal and spiritual consequences. I'm sure Satan is perfectly happy with you taking the "What I do doesn't matter" approach.
I think most governments or even religions start out good. But once they grow large and the money starts pouring in then all the conmen and conwomen start to move in to get some of that money. Most will claim to be saints but in most cases, they are just wolfs in sheep's clothing. Take care
Not voting never made anything better. In fact, I'm sure those in power would love it if decent people gave up, stayed home and handed everything over to them unchallenged. Christians are accountable to God for what we do in this world. Sitting the important moments out and doing nothing is a bad witness and is nothing to account for. Like the parable of the talents. Most gained by what they invested in this world. The other was rebuked for burying his in the ground and doing nothing with it. Grab every opportunity to stand up and speak up for righteousness. Do your part and as Frank said, leave the rest to God.
@gi169 Appreciated. I'm not enjoying these self proclaimed Christians justifying doing nothing though. I guess the rumors were true. The enemy has convinced them to be quiet and they're complying. Very disappointing.
@@festushaggen2563 Indeed my friend, we had a prophecy update at church and it is looking like there are fewer and fewer Bible following Christians... Not saying they don't believe, but...
@@festushaggen2563 I hesitate to say anything, brother Festus, because I don’t want it to come off the wrong way. But it’s entirely possible some have asked God what He specifically wants them to do in regard to politics and the answer could’ve been to not participate. I was given such a command and I can back it up with the scripture He directed me to. What I’m not saying is this command is what everyone should do. Everyone has different missions in this spiritual war. What I am saying is everyone should ask God what He wants them to do, then they should obey that. God bless you, brother in Christ.
Remember Christians, our God never changes! In Malachi 3:6, God Himself says, "I am the Lord, I do not change." James 1:17 says, "Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows." Hebrews 13:8 says, "Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever." That means what Daniel 2:21 says about God is still true: "It is He who changes the times and the periods; He removes kings and appoints kings; He gives wisdom to wise men, and knowledge to people of understanding." God does it, not we the people!!! God is not up there nervously watching, hoping that we make the right decision, and, if we don't, He's going to be like, "I wanted the other person! But, I need to submit to the will of the people." Get over ourselves!!!! Remember what God tells us in Romans 13:1-2, "Every person is to be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God. Therefore whoever resists authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves." God does it, not us!! And, if we resist, He will punish us!
Corruption is possible, no doubt about that. Of course it is, but if that’s the case then why are both parties so worried about the polling? If the corruption is that bad then the polling shouldn’t matter. Not only that but why not corrupt the polling too.
Politics is ALL about division, distraction, and deception, and what was the number one sign Jesus gave the disciples about the end of the age? Now as He sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be? And what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?” And Jesus answered and said to them: “Take heed that no one DECEIVES you." (Matthew 24:3-4) Let's check out some other verses in regards to rulers, kingdoms, and those in authority: “Praise be to the name of God for ever and ever; wisdom and power are his. He changes times and seasons; He DEPOSES kings and RAISES UP others. He gives wisdom to the wise and knowledge to the discerning." (Daniel 2:20-21) Jesus answered, “My kingdom is NOT of this world. If My kingdom WERE of this world, My servants would fight, so that I should not be delivered to the Jews; but now My kingdom is NOT from here.” (John 18:36)
You don’t vote, but after the election, you check whether you voted or not and you find out that your record says that you voted. There should be better checks and balances for election, this can be one goal for everyone. Volunteer to be a part of security for the coming election, USA, you don’t want totalitarian government, like the USSR, where I came from.
freedom is not what makes a nation great! Proverbs 14:34 says that righteousness exalts a nation. And, just because someone makes a sacrifice, doesn't mean that God accepts it. God rejected Nadab and Abihu's sacrifice, Leviticus 10. And, God also rejected Ananias and Sapphira's sacrifice, Acts 5.
We also have right to not vote. There is literally nothing that mandates voting any more than there is something mandating that every eligible American citizen of age to own a car. The candidates have to sell potential voters on supporting them. The problem with the "you must vote" ppl is that it sounds an awful lot like they believe the ppl ought to be working for the politicians' interests. They have to meet OUR standards if they want our vote.
His thinking is lost. He said that the politician that he voted for actually gets put into place. It doesn't matter who you vote for they could lose. The loser doesn't get put into place no matter what you think or want. Our system isn't perfect but is it corrupt? NO. It's quite foolish and childish to think so.
Trump is like Salt. He will slow the decay. He’s not a perfect person but he is the best option for potus right now! Please get out and vote as early as you can!
The fact that the government weaponizes laws against its political rivals and uses the same means to protect the members of their team means the government is corrupt. The whole system is supposed to be predicated on the idea that the law is supposed to apply to everybody and that powers that the government has at its disposal aren't meant to be used as a weapon.
People lie. That's all I need to know about the system, that people , the world are not perfect...we are all sinners not perfect..all guilty of something and never trust anything you read on the internet. The internet can fake anything and it fakes a lot these days..
You silly silly people. Wake up. Have you all not realised that you’re voting for 10, 20….40 years or what ever time frame you’ve been at it - have you noticed that the world/country you live in is progressively getting worse. You voted didn’t you? If your ‘vote’ actually meant anything, they wouldn’t allow you to do it. Your little often ill informed vote means absolutely nothing other than to give the person a false sense of contributing. Sorry.🤷😏
Just my two cents, but you could have gotten your point across perhaps even more effectively without that thick layer of snark and condescension over it.
The vitriol being shown this election season from Christians is sad. Stop acting like the Gospel needs politics just because it makes it more comfortable. You're making a division in believers that isn't Biblical, Christian or loving. Jesus lives! ♥️ and is Yahweh God 🙏🏻 Christ ✝️ and King 👑
It’s actually a really great question and i honestly think by now our votes don’t count towards anything except as a giant red flag for them to know who to get rid of first.
Jesus is going to remove His Church; then He is going to pour out His wrath on all who dwell upon the earth! Choose Jesus NOW! HE IS THE WAY, THE TRUTH, AND THE LIFE!
Everyone is evil. The goal in voting is not to "choose the lesser of two evils", but to understand the realities of the world and vote for the person who is best for the task. Only God is good. If you live your life thinking you can choose things in this world that are good, you will never choose anything. You could never get married, never hire an employee, never have children, never have friends. Also, voting for this or that person is not choosing who is going to be your god. People need to keep things in perspective. You are electing someone to do a job. All you need to know is what the job's requirements are, what the current challenges are, and pick as best you can. Because guess what? You're evil, too.
@@droe2570 Everyone is evil? Even those who have God's good Holy Spirit living within them? Everything in the world is evil? Even the good gifts that come to us from God down from heaven? That is very close to blaspheming the Holy Spirit, and that is the one sin that cannot be forgiven. Be careful, you are on dangerous ground, don't say nobody tried to warn you on that great Day.
@@Jason-Austin "Even those who have God's good Holy Spirit living within them?" The Holy Spirit is not evil, but we are not the Holy Spirit. Do you not know the scriptures? "For all have sinned, and fallen short of the glory of God." Or Romans 7: 18 - 25? It is not we who are good, but the Lord. It is not we who are blameless, but the grace of God covers our sins. We are not God. Only God is good, as Jesus says in Mark 10: 18. So yes, we are all evil, and it is the righteousness of God that saves us through the grace he bestows upon us and we receive through Jesus Christ. Not I, but the Lord. The Holy Spirit is not evil, but we are not the Holy Spirit. Be very careful.
@@droe2570 Do YOU not know the scriptures? I never said that we ARE the holy spirit, the holy spirit *transforms* our old wicked nature into a good Christ-like nature by the renewing of our minds. *Romans 12:2* _And be not conformed to this world: but be ye _*_transformed_*_ by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God._ That is what the ENTIRE Bible is all about. God's Holy Spirit changing us from wicked sinners into good and obedient soldiers for Christ. *2 Timothy 2:3* _You therefore must endure hardship as a _*_good soldier_*_ of Jesus Christ._ Changing us from old evil men into new men, created in the likeness of God, truly holy and righteous. *Ephesians 4:24* _And that you put on _*_the new man_*_ which was created according to God, in true righteousness and holiness._
@@Jason-Austin None of those passages say that we are not evil. They all say that we must struggle against our own sinful nature. We are all sinners, which means we are all evil. We are being changed, but we are not yet perfected. This is a core tenet of the scriptures, some of which you have just quoted. So yes, we are evil. We are being changed and renewed and perfected bit by bit, but we will not be finished until the resurrection. If you read Romans 8, as I suggested, you would see Paul saying this very thing. Our spirits are cleansed, but our sinful nature (flesh) remains. The problem with your position is that you are only looking at half of our situation, choosing to ignore the parts you don't like so that you can justify not voting.
I think the young guy is right. We should wait on God to fix the world problems. Dan 2:44 “In the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed. And this kingdom will not be passed on to any other people? It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it alone will stand forever”
Oh, He is going to “fix” it, alright! Judgment Day is soon approaching! Jesus is going to remove His Church before He pours out His wrath on this Christ-rejecting world. This earth is destined to be cleansed of all unrighteousness just like in the days of Noah! Be found in Christ before it’s too late for you! Today is the day of Salvation!
@@warrenroberts1912 If wicked people force you into a corner and tell you that you must take one of two paths of evil to get out, don't take either or you become like them.
Everyone is wicked. The presidency is just a temporary job. Understand what the job is, understand the laws, understand the needs, and pick one. That's all it is. To think it is more than that is to disconnect from reality. These people are not saviors or heroes. They are employees.
@@warrenroberts1912 If Stalin was running versus Hitler, would you think it was irresponsible not to vote for either? Who would you vote for in that case?
This may sound dumb to most, but I'm not sure man, i look at both of these candidates, and both of them are not TRUELY God fearing candidates. Sure, we are not perfect creatures, and we have our faults/sins.. But this is not looking good for us that the elections have narrowed down to JUST these two.. and I don't want to anger God with making a decision that goes against His will. Before you comment, I'm not lazy, I love God and America, but man, these two just make my head spin.
Had same intense discussion with my pastor and he could not provide a single biblical text that supports getting involved in political structures as anything remotely connected to our salvation. As I asked him.... _are you so insecure in your faith that you need a government law to protect it?_
This election is basically a choice between Baal and Moloch. Even if one of them might make your life more comfortable, are you still going for it and pretend that God approves?
There is no perfect system. Sometimes, it's simply the politicians being exploitative and sneakily breaking the rules of the system. Especially if people don't know how the system works. It was about a year or so ago that I was reminded that the politicians are supposed to be working for us and not the other way around. It's also our job to try to hold them accountable. Here's one simple thing for everyone. If your condition is that if a politician is a liar, therefore you won't vote for them, you might as well never vote.
Those who partake of Caesars elections show what kingdom they truly belong to. Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's
Fact - all people lie . everything is a sinner.. everything is guilty of something..no one is innocent (other than babies and children who don't know right from wrong.) Every system is corrupt..no system is perfect., And to think that everyone and everything is good ..is wrong to think or believe so . everything and everyone will sin..no matter what..
Every vote counts. How we vote dictates the direction America moves. Either closer to God’s best or farther from Him. Cast your vote for one who is more God-honoring than the others. Vote for the lesser of the evils.
@@festushaggen2563 since I respect you, brother in Christ, I’ll just be blunt with you. I think it’s already been decided by the prince in charge of this principality and the whole voting process is a dog and pony/smoke and mirrors/ watch the gladiators fight illusion. I’ve asked many times (done the research myself too) and no one has been able to prove that voting actually decides who’s elected. And don’t dare question it either because you’ll be labeled a crazy conspiracy theorist.
Turek didn't address the question. The young guy seems to have been convinced by Trump that the system is rigged. If it is, then why should anyone vote? But Frank ignores the problem that Trump caused.
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"We have to do what's right." Who says voting for either party is right? Thats the issue
Voting for Trump is 1000x more "right" than Harris. The only reason why we get garbage candidates is because nobody votes for the "better" candidates. Like you, clearly trump is the better option but instead of voting for him you'll vote nothing which evens the playing field for someone like biden or harris.. so that's why we are where we are right now as a country. Go ahead and keep not voting while the evil left votes for pandering politicians that only care about gay rights, abortions, raising taxes, gas prices, etc..
Vote for the side that will open the doors of evil the slowest.
Neither is perfectly right, so we vote for the more 'right', not the greater evil on the...
@@desertwolfskin2148 no! Evil doesn't deserve my vote
Winston Churchill said:
_"Many forms of Government have been tried and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time; but there is the broad feeling in our country that the people should rule, continuously rule, and that public opinion, expressed by all constitutional means, should shape, guide, and control the actions of Ministers who are their servants and not their masters."_
Did he mention that most people don't have a faintest idea about running a country?
@@kapitan19969838 You said: _"Did he mention that most people don't have a faintest idea about running a country?"_
Churchill wrote and said an awful lot, so he probably made a comment on this at one time or another. There is one that is falsely attributed to him that goes _"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter."_
@@hansdemos6510 I know that one. Wise words, wouldn't You agree?
@@kapitan19969838 You said: _" I know that one. Wise words, wouldn't You agree?"_
Wise and pithy. Churchill-worthy, though not actually by him.
I think a lot of disillusionment with "democracy" is caused because people misunderstand its purpose. Democracy is not and cannot be a guarantee for the best policies, only for policies that do not pizz off so many people that a peaceful transfer of power would become impossible.
That is the purpose of having elections; to make sure the people in power have so much support from the population at large that a revolt would be silly, and making these elections a regular thing ensures that any majority of dissenters would only have to bide their time for a handful of years.
@@hansdemos6510 Well ain't that a breath of fresh air! Some honesty around the purpose of democracy!
What do You personally think about the effectiveness of democracy as a governing system?
I'm voting whether it counts or not.
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil
Me too. Life is on the ballot. We need no greater cause to vote for than that.
Amen Larz and Festus.
@@chloemartel9927 hello sister so good to hear from you. 🙌
But why? If it doesn’t count then why are you supporting it?
I will be voting for as many Christian conservatives as I can find here in the People's Republik of Komiefrornia... God save us. Also God bless brothers and sister...
I think it's ridiculous not to vote. I don't think it's as corrupt as the questioner thinks.
Even if it is, you should still vote. Because it's a win/lose if you vote. And it's a lose/lose if you don't vote.
It's not like our elections are like North Korea's "elections." (spoiler, those can hardly be called elections).
If anything, I think the people who don't/won't vote shouldn't have credibility when criticizing the country when they themselves won't make the decision to affect it.
Heck, all this applies even if you're not a Christian.
He’s saying both sides are garbage. I agree with him. This is what happens when everyone votes lesser of two evils
@@flight2k5 There are only evils to vote for. We are all evil. But to run away from it because no one running is good (only God is good), is foolishness.
@@droe2570 but you won’t vote for Harris right? Because she’s evil?
@droe2570 'there are only evils to vote for and we are all evil' don't even dare equate my 'evil' or 99% of the population's evil with what's present at Washington. Its not anywhere near close!
Right to vote includes abstaining from voting.
when you have millions of illegal immigrants and dead people voting, it’s pretty corrupt. When there is video evidence of fake ballots being stuffed in the middle of the night all over a city, it’s pretty corrupt. He’s not wrong. But yes, I would say don’t make it easy for them to steal an election like they did before. Keep voting.
Dr Frank Turek for President
Choosing not to vote is just as much an expression of your rights and beliefs as choosing to.
Choosing neither candidate is more an immature tantrum than a coherent expression.
Amen!
Israel asked Samuel for a king, he told them they had a king, Israel said no but we want a king like the nations, and for their sin God gave them one.
@@jasonmitchell7550 You are welcome to believe that, but i'd argue that attacking someone because they choose not to vote is the truly immature thing to do. If a person doesn't believe either candidate represents their interests, then they are not required to lower their standards to appease the candidates' supporters. _They_ are the ones who throw tantrums, especially the Trump supporters.
@@theeternalsbeliever1779to not participate or contribute to your country is an abdication of responsibility
We are to be good stewards of what God has given us. For those of us residing in a country in which we have the ability to vote, then I think our stewardship should include voting for whoever best represents God’s values and as Frank Turek says, we leave the results to Him.
I see 👀 but he was only given his opinion, so my question is where in the bible does it say christian shall vote?
@@cs77smith67 it doesn't, but it also doesn't say a Christian should give someone a car ride that is in need of one. The principles are there. The person literally cited stewardship. We should also seek truth and if it's true one candidate's policies are better than the other and you can discern that, you would be taken inaction where you could help people. This weird concept that something should be said explicitly in the Bible and that you should ignore the principles of the Bible is a strange take
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We fight for what is right in the eyes of Jesus so LEAN IN !
Unhappy with your bank, you switch banks and take your money elsewhere. Don't like the state you live in, then move to another one that you like more. Don't like the political candidates on your ballot, then consider running for office yourself. Is any of this easy, no. Switching banks is a time consuming nuisance, and running for office takes time, commitment, and fundraising. Yet, nothing worth having in life is ever easy. Christians not voting is a tragedy.
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And the earliest people here formed the Mayflower Compact which was one of the things used by those who set up our form of govt. If moral, godly people do not run for office and vote, who do these Christians think will fill in those places and votes. I really do not understand where they get those ideas.Jesus said to make disciples of all nations, not people. Without moral leaders with the principles set up by the constitution. Which are Christian . Just sad. Letting evil prevail might be a sin.
Right. Christians not voting, not running for office, not holding people accountable and not staying informed on the issues is why all this nonsense is going on right now.
Proverbs 29:2: "When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn
It’s a faith issue and it’s wrong to guide someone against what God may be calling them to do. These are both candidates who declared an enduring industrial slaughterhouse for the unborn. We can boycott and swing the whole right into a people who know the art of making a deal.
@@NJ-ju8fr that just isn’t true. One openly advocates for the murder of the unborn till birth as federal law. And the mutilation of children. The other doesn’t. That one has said and still says it is up to the states, which is what the Constitution says. That person was also instrumental in putting Supreme Court Justices on the Court. That was instrumental in overturning Rowe v Wade. The one who is for murder up till birth wants to pack the court and add to court with justices who think like they do.But the one who helped overturn Rowe v Wade is also against mutilating children . We live in a republic, not a democracy that one keeps saying. You get no perfect candidates. Not getting involved is how we got where we are right now. Not voting for the one who believes it is a state issue will get you more destruction of this country. Jesus said to go and make disciples of all nations, not people. Without a nation that has leaders with some sort of moral values, you as a Christian can expect to be next in line that have your rights taken away. First candidate I mentioned is all for that, along with taking away your 1st and 2nd Amendment. We know how the economy is under the first one. We also know how the economy was under the 2nd one. I’ll take the second one.
Get involved with your local government as well, that is your local community.
Facts!
"Free election of masters does not abolish the masters or the slaves." ~ Herbert Marcuse
If our voting system has been repaired so that another election can not be stolen from We The People, then the Emergency Broadcast System needs to let every American know it has been repaired so they will vote knowing their vote will count. I don't want to vote if the winners are automatically "selected" by the New World Order, which has been happening for decades, maybe a century, but I am going to vote just in case our system has been repaired & we just haven't been told, which would be a tragedy.🙏
You dropped your tinfoil hat.
No election was stolen. Turn off Faux News, my sister.
The system isn't corrupt. The people in power have corrupted away from the system. So sick of people saying this inaccuracy.
Sad if your hope is in man...my hope is in Christ and His finished Work and my future with Him!
I am not voting.
Amen! Get out and VOTE people!!
Eh, I'm not sure I agree. This isn't a case of "Oh the system isn't perfect." this is a case of "The system is corrupt, so me doing the right thing doesn't matter, the only right thing would be to rebuild the system." But no one is going to do that.
Doing the right thing always matters- regardless of the outcome. The Lord knows.
James 4:17
17 “Remember, it is sin to know what you ought to do and then not do it.”
We are to honor the Lord and do good.
It doesn’t honor Him, nor does it do anyone any good if we just throw our hands in the air and let corruption escalate. We are to stand against it- even if we don’t get the outcome we hope for.
Remember- the Lord measures our success, not by how well people respond to us- but by how well we respond to Him.
We have let the system become corrupt. We are our government. We don’t hold them accountable and at the local level where affects us most, we vote even less. Our churches are not standing up to all sinful things going on in this country. Corrupt government happens when good moral Christians don’t vote and run for office. And not everyone is called to do that. We are called to vote and support good candidates who believe as we do.
100% of people who don't vote, don't have their votes counted. It's really not that hard. They can only cheat SO much, not voting is just giving them the victory.
Which system in our society is not corrupt? All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men (and women) to do nothing! Elections have real-world temporal and spiritual consequences. I'm sure Satan is perfectly happy with you taking the "What I do doesn't matter" approach.
I think most governments or even religions start out good. But once they grow large and the money starts pouring in then all the conmen and conwomen start to move in to get some of that money. Most will claim to be saints but in most cases, they are just wolfs in sheep's clothing. Take care
Daniel 2:21
too many Christians forget that our God never changes!!!!
Not voting never made anything better. In fact, I'm sure those in power would love it if decent people gave up, stayed home and handed everything over to them unchallenged.
Christians are accountable to God for what we do in this world. Sitting the important moments out and doing nothing is a bad witness and is nothing to account for.
Like the parable of the talents. Most gained by what they invested in this world. The other was rebuked for burying his in the ground and doing nothing with it.
Grab every opportunity to stand up and speak up for righteousness. Do your part and as Frank said, leave the rest to God.
Enjoying your comments brother Festus.👍
@gi169 Appreciated. I'm not enjoying these self proclaimed Christians justifying doing nothing though. I guess the rumors were true.
The enemy has convinced them to be quiet and they're complying. Very disappointing.
@@festushaggen2563
Indeed my friend, we had a prophecy update at church and it is looking like there are fewer and fewer Bible following Christians... Not saying they don't believe, but...
@@festushaggen2563 I hesitate to say anything, brother Festus, because I don’t want it to come off the wrong way. But it’s entirely possible some have asked God what He specifically wants them to do in regard to politics and the answer could’ve been to not participate. I was given such a command and I can back it up with the scripture He directed me to.
What I’m not saying is this command is what everyone should do. Everyone has different missions in this spiritual war. What I am saying is everyone should ask God what He wants them to do, then they should obey that. God bless you, brother in Christ.
@@gi169 The trees are known by their fruit.
Remember Christians, our God never changes! In Malachi 3:6, God Himself says, "I am the Lord, I do not change." James 1:17 says, "Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows." Hebrews 13:8 says, "Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever." That means what Daniel 2:21 says about God is still true: "It is He who changes the times and the periods; He removes kings and appoints kings; He gives wisdom to wise men, and knowledge to people of understanding." God does it, not we the people!!! God is not up there nervously watching, hoping that we make the right decision, and, if we don't, He's going to be like, "I wanted the other person! But, I need to submit to the will of the people." Get over ourselves!!!! Remember what God tells us in Romans 13:1-2, "Every person is to be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God. Therefore whoever resists authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves."
God does it, not us!! And, if we resist, He will punish us!
Amen!
I like what George Carlin said about voting 😂
There's never a guarante that the person you vote for will be elected in a fair system, it's called getting outvoted.
Corruption is possible, no doubt about that. Of course it is, but if that’s the case then why are both parties so worried about the polling? If the corruption is that bad then the polling shouldn’t matter. Not only that but why not corrupt the polling too.
Convince me that the computers used aren't pre programed .
If I vote and those I voted for DO NOT win, how did my vote count?
Politics is ALL about division, distraction, and deception, and what was the number one sign Jesus gave the disciples about the end of the age?
Now as He sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be? And what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?” And Jesus answered and said to them: “Take heed that no one DECEIVES you." (Matthew 24:3-4)
Let's check out some other verses in regards to rulers, kingdoms, and those in authority:
“Praise be to the name of God for ever and ever; wisdom and power are his. He changes times and seasons; He DEPOSES kings and RAISES UP others. He gives wisdom to the wise and knowledge to the discerning." (Daniel 2:20-21)
Jesus answered, “My kingdom is NOT of this world. If My kingdom WERE of this world, My servants would fight, so that I should not be delivered to the Jews; but now My kingdom is NOT from here.” (John 18:36)
You don’t vote, but after the election, you check whether you voted or not and you find out that your record says that you voted. There should be better checks and balances for election, this can be one goal for everyone. Volunteer to be a part of security for the coming election, USA, you don’t want totalitarian government, like the USSR, where I came from.
Our handlers only allow two choices, and they control them both. Four years ago one candidate got 80% of the vote and lost. What does that tell you?
Does he have, even the faintest idea , how many have died, given their all, so he could vote?
freedom is not what makes a nation great! Proverbs 14:34 says that righteousness exalts a nation. And, just because someone makes a sacrifice, doesn't mean that God accepts it. God rejected Nadab and Abihu's sacrifice, Leviticus 10. And, God also rejected Ananias and Sapphira's sacrifice, Acts 5.
We also have right to not vote. There is literally nothing that mandates voting any more than there is something mandating that every eligible American citizen of age to own a car. The candidates have to sell potential voters on supporting them. The problem with the "you must vote" ppl is that it sounds an awful lot like they believe the ppl ought to be working for the politicians' interests. They have to meet OUR standards if they want our vote.
Name 1 person who died so he could vote.
His thinking is lost. He said that the politician that he voted for actually gets put into place. It doesn't matter who you vote for they could lose. The loser doesn't get put into place no matter what you think or want. Our system isn't perfect but is it corrupt? NO. It's quite foolish and childish to think so.
Trump is like Salt. He will slow the decay. He’s not a perfect person but he is the best option for potus right now! Please get out and vote as early as you can!
A vote for Daniel 2:44
What’s the proof the system is corrupt?
Well of course the system is corrupt CaptainObvious people are involved you anti-theists are so 1gn0rant.
The fact that the government weaponizes laws against its political rivals and uses the same means to protect the members of their team means the government is corrupt. The whole system is supposed to be predicated on the idea that the law is supposed to apply to everybody and that powers that the government has at its disposal aren't meant to be used as a weapon.
Just look around. It is obvious the winner is already chosen.
People lie. That's all I need to know about the system, that people , the world are not perfect...we are all sinners not perfect..all guilty of something
and never trust anything you read on the internet. The internet can fake anything and it fakes a lot these days..
@@ZestyGingerGarlicCloveAppeal to personal credulity fallacy....
Welcome to post thought America.
You silly silly people. Wake up. Have you all not realised that you’re voting for 10, 20….40 years or what ever time frame you’ve been at it - have you noticed that the world/country you live in is progressively getting worse. You voted didn’t you? If your ‘vote’ actually meant anything, they wouldn’t allow you to do it. Your little often ill informed vote means absolutely nothing other than to give the person a false sense of contributing. Sorry.🤷😏
Just my two cents, but you could have gotten your point across perhaps even more effectively without that thick layer of snark and condescension over it.
The Lord already knows who it will be.
So do the two “candidates”. The overlords have already made the decision/sElection.
The elites put who they want in
@@RUN_IT_UP_It's not the elites.
@Servant-u9z They don't answer it's not the "overlords".
@@SamT-h7w what do you think I mean when I say “overlords”?
The vitriol being shown this election season from Christians is sad. Stop acting like the Gospel needs politics just because it makes it more comfortable. You're making a division in believers that isn't Biblical, Christian or loving.
Jesus lives! ♥️ and is Yahweh God 🙏🏻 Christ ✝️ and King 👑
Spot on, brother. Yahweh bless you.
@@Servant-u9z Yahweh bless you and yours ♥️
GOD 1st greater than America 1st.
We are NOT of thi$$$$ World
It’s actually a really great question and i honestly think by now our votes don’t count towards anything except as a giant red flag for them to know who to get rid of first.
Jesus is going to remove His Church; then He is going to pour out His wrath on all who dwell upon the earth! Choose Jesus NOW! HE IS THE WAY, THE TRUTH, AND THE LIFE!
That’s really dumb. And paranoid. And strange. And pitiful.
Because you just should! 🤣🤣🤣
Choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil.
Everyone is evil. The goal in voting is not to "choose the lesser of two evils", but to understand the realities of the world and vote for the person who is best for the task. Only God is good. If you live your life thinking you can choose things in this world that are good, you will never choose anything. You could never get married, never hire an employee, never have children, never have friends.
Also, voting for this or that person is not choosing who is going to be your god. People need to keep things in perspective. You are electing someone to do a job. All you need to know is what the job's requirements are, what the current challenges are, and pick as best you can. Because guess what? You're evil, too.
@@droe2570 Everyone is evil? Even those who have God's good Holy Spirit living within them?
Everything in the world is evil? Even the good gifts that come to us from God down from heaven?
That is very close to blaspheming the Holy Spirit, and that is the one sin that cannot be forgiven.
Be careful, you are on dangerous ground, don't say nobody tried to warn you on that great Day.
@@Jason-Austin "Even those who have God's good Holy Spirit living within them?"
The Holy Spirit is not evil, but we are not the Holy Spirit.
Do you not know the scriptures?
"For all have sinned, and fallen short of the glory of God."
Or Romans 7: 18 - 25?
It is not we who are good, but the Lord. It is not we who are blameless, but the grace of God covers our sins. We are not God. Only God is good, as Jesus says in Mark 10: 18.
So yes, we are all evil, and it is the righteousness of God that saves us through the grace he bestows upon us and we receive through Jesus Christ. Not I, but the Lord. The Holy Spirit is not evil, but we are not the Holy Spirit. Be very careful.
@@droe2570 Do YOU not know the scriptures?
I never said that we ARE the holy spirit, the holy spirit *transforms* our old wicked nature into
a good Christ-like nature by the renewing of our minds.
*Romans 12:2*
_And be not conformed to this world: but be ye _*_transformed_*_ by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God._
That is what the ENTIRE Bible is all about. God's Holy Spirit changing us from wicked
sinners into good and obedient soldiers for Christ.
*2 Timothy 2:3*
_You therefore must endure hardship as a _*_good soldier_*_ of Jesus Christ._
Changing us from old evil men into new men, created in the likeness of God,
truly holy and righteous.
*Ephesians 4:24*
_And that you put on _*_the new man_*_ which was created according to God, in true righteousness and holiness._
@@Jason-Austin None of those passages say that we are not evil. They all say that we must struggle against our own sinful nature. We are all sinners, which means we are all evil. We are being changed, but we are not yet perfected. This is a core tenet of the scriptures, some of which you have just quoted. So yes, we are evil. We are being changed and renewed and perfected bit by bit, but we will not be finished until the resurrection. If you read Romans 8, as I suggested, you would see Paul saying this very thing. Our spirits are cleansed, but our sinful nature (flesh) remains.
The problem with your position is that you are only looking at half of our situation, choosing to ignore the parts you don't like so that you can justify not voting.
I think the young guy is right. We should wait on God to fix the world problems. Dan 2:44
“In the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed. And this kingdom will not be passed on to any other people? It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it alone will stand forever”
Oh, He is going to “fix” it, alright! Judgment Day is soon approaching! Jesus is going to remove His Church before He pours out His wrath on this Christ-rejecting world. This earth is destined to be cleansed of all unrighteousness just like in the days of Noah! Be found in Christ before it’s too late for you! Today is the day of Salvation!
"Do what's right and leave the results to God" means dont vote for wicked unqualified candidates which both parties have propped up.
So who do we vote for lolol
@@warrenroberts1912 If wicked people force you into a corner and tell you that you must take one of two paths of evil to get out, don't take either or you become like them.
Everyone is wicked. The presidency is just a temporary job. Understand what the job is, understand the laws, understand the needs, and pick one. That's all it is. To think it is more than that is to disconnect from reality. These people are not saviors or heroes. They are employees.
@asureguidetolove8903 I think its irresponsible to not vote as an American citizen.
@@warrenroberts1912 If Stalin was running versus Hitler, would you think it was irresponsible not to vote for either? Who would you vote for in that case?
This may sound dumb to most, but I'm not sure man, i look at both of these candidates, and both of them are not TRUELY God fearing candidates. Sure, we are not perfect creatures, and we have our faults/sins.. But this is not looking good for us that the elections have narrowed down to JUST these two.. and I don't want to anger God with making a decision that goes against His will.
Before you comment, I'm not lazy, I love God and America, but man, these two just make my head spin.
Had same intense discussion with my pastor and he could not provide a single biblical text that supports getting involved in political structures as anything remotely connected to our salvation.
As I asked him.... _are you so insecure in your faith that you need a government law to protect it?_
What?
Uh, how bout love thy neighbor. Your pastor is not pastoring...😢
@@gi169 person is just looking for any justification for not voting.
@@chloemartel9927
There's no justification for sidestepping a commandment from the Lord.
@@gi169 amen brother. God bless you.
The system itself is evil. What has light to do with darkness?
If Jesus existed there is no way he’d vote for Trump.
The only religious figure who would vote for Trump is Rabbi Rebe of Chabad Lubbavitch.
Indeed
Trump has the character of an antichrist
Jesus doesn't vote, he saves! 😊
Im not voting. Theres no point. America is doomed regardless. If you can't see that you need to get closer to God and receive spiritual discernment.
This election is basically a choice between Baal and Moloch. Even if one of them might make your life more comfortable, are you still going for it and pretend that God approves?
Most will vote for what they say is the lesser of 2 evils
A corrupt worldly system with both sides being from the devil. I'm not voting.
I'm not voting to make my life more comfortable. I'm voting so more lives can make it into this world.
@@festushaggen2563 Both candidates are pro choice
@@paradisecityX0 One of them has no limits, the other does. Is saving 1 life worth it for you?
There is no perfect system. Sometimes, it's simply the politicians being exploitative and sneakily breaking the rules of the system. Especially if people don't know how the system works. It was about a year or so ago that I was reminded that the politicians are supposed to be working for us and not the other way around. It's also our job to try to hold them accountable.
Here's one simple thing for everyone. If your condition is that if a politician is a liar, therefore you won't vote for them, you might as well never vote.
@@JiraiyaSama86 what if you have reasons to believe that voting is not actually how a leader is put into position. What then?
@@Servant-u9z Don't ask that without proposing an alternative.
@@JiraiyaSama86 why not?
@@Servant-u9z What do you mean why not? You implied you know better. So let's hear it. Unless you already know it's not better.
@@JiraiyaSama86 I mean why can’t I ask you the question I did, without an alternative. Why is that a requirement for asking a query?
Those who partake of Caesars elections show what kingdom they truly belong to.
Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's
Amen
It’s not a corrupt system.
Prove it.
Hey teacher, that's fantastic. So you unequivocally don't think the system is corrupt, correct?
Fact - all people lie . everything is a sinner.. everything is guilty of something..no one is innocent (other than babies and children who don't know right from wrong.)
Every system is corrupt..no system is perfect.,
And to think that everyone and everything is good ..is wrong to think or believe so . everything and everyone will sin..no matter what..
@@dragonsignerSo chrsitianity is corrupted then...and should be rejected.
Thanks for that.
Please demonstrate voting achieves anything.
So is just that you are too lazy to vote?
@@chloemartel9927 sister, does doing what God has commanded you mean you are lazy just because it’s not what the rest of the world is doing?
Jesus gave a comment to love thy neighbor, just saying ...
@@Servant-u9z
Ok, understood.👍
God bless you.
@@gi169 thanks. God bless you too, brother.
Every vote counts. How we vote dictates the direction America moves. Either closer to God’s best or farther from Him. Cast your vote for one who is more God-honoring than the others. Vote for the lesser of the evils.
@@GooiLui demonstrate your claim “every vote counts”.
@Servant-u9z If no one voted there'd be nothing to count.
@@festushaggen2563 with all due respect brother, can you show me that counting votes decides who is raised to a leadership position?
@Servant-u9z Because that's how the winner is decided. If no one votes then how do you think it'll be decided?
@@festushaggen2563 since I respect you, brother in Christ, I’ll just be blunt with you. I think it’s already been decided by the prince in charge of this principality and the whole voting process is a dog and pony/smoke and mirrors/ watch the gladiators fight illusion.
I’ve asked many times (done the research myself too) and no one has been able to prove that voting actually decides who’s elected. And don’t dare question it either because you’ll be labeled a crazy conspiracy theorist.
Turek didn't address the question. The young guy seems to have been convinced by Trump that the system is rigged. If it is, then why should anyone vote? But Frank ignores the problem that Trump caused.
Not rigged. Fake