Yes, Minister
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- Опубликовано: 5 апр 2010
- A clip from the show Yes, Minister, highlighting the obstacles to public inquiry and the push and pull of politics over morality. Even in this fictitious clip, glimpses of true life power wrangling are revealed as the true obstacle to the effective performance of democracy, the carrying out of moral conscience and the taking care of the public good.
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A lot scarier than Malcolm Tucker. Not a single f word uttered.
"Well they can't kill that many people, can they?" Brillian! Timeless!
"...and you want to blow it all in a fit of moral self-indulgence?!" Priceless.
"just because you've caught something nasty, why do you have to wander around breathing on everybody?"
Well that hits a whole lot differently in 2020🤣
how prophetic the writing turned out to be after more than three decades and a half.
2:20 Fun Fact: In the novelised version of the series, it was mentioned that there was no record of this international terrorist agreement being conceived or being signed hinting that this may have been something that the whip came up with to intimidate hacker
There is a novel about the show?
(Jim Hacker voice) "Why wasnt i told"
@@LazarSoljaga yeah, there's a series of books written in the style of in-universe political memoirs, amazing stuff
@@LazarSoljaga "They don't trust you."
Hacker: "Why not?"
"Because you trust the Foreign Office."
One of the most intellectually rewarding show that I have seen to date.
Make sure to read the book. Makes it even more intellectually rewarding.
Margaret Thatcher watched regularly while she was PM.
@@mizzyroro no surprise there.
basically the other side of the last scene in Lord of War.
Great movie
@@walesdoesntsuck6635 I thought it was one of thee worst piles of crap ever made
@@colintraveller why
Criminally underrated comment
@@walesdoesntsuck6635 he was supplying dictator with weapons he got caught and was realease by some high ranking goverment beacuse its in there interest for him to do what he does
Hacker wants desparately to be Churchill but doesn't want to risk anything in the process to become him. It never occurs to Hacker that Churchill became Churchill by being politically savvy and having the balls to be loud about his convictions.
@randomguy9777 Churchill also had the good fortune of that failed austrian painter starting a world war. Had that guy lost power for whatever reason before the war Churchill today would not be that famous.
@@florinivan6907 Oh, he'd still be famous.
Or, perhaps infamous. For Gallipoli.
….and was voted out of office soon after the war ended
The comedy of this clip is in the absurdity and hypocrisy, Hacker is discouraged from acting through being accused of acting selfish "and you want to blow it all in a fit of moral self-indulgence" but at the same time encouraged to not act using the same thing "after all, the PM thinking about you as the next foreign secretary". Basically any choice Hacker makes is selfish, one satisfies his moral duty and the other satisfies his political career.
In the end, it's the same thing that happens in every Yes Minister story, the status quo is maintained and everyone looks after their own self-interests.
Really good satire, this.
Satire? Damn. I thought it was a documentary :)
@@seamusoflatcap I think this is actually called a conspiracy theory now...
So true in Australian politics now
@@seamusoflatcap You mean it's not?
@@biggee8111 it is hard to tell, isn't it?
2019 and nothing has changed.
And there would be no danger of a public inquiry these days... unless you criticised Israel... or were serious about Brexit... or used the wrong gender pronoun...
@The Scally Trader One big thing has changed: the average tenure of a British PM is much shorter now.
@@lxdimension And the rare blips in the matrix like Jeremy Corbyn get destroyed by the broadcasters and the press. No popular movement can sustain itself without some major media support. The left of the labour party hasn't had this since the 1970s.
My business is war and business is booming.
9020 and still accurate
2020 and still watching these clips of comical genius.
If there weren't a laugh track to guide us, we might make the mistake of finding this all pretty horrifying.
r1pbuck it's not a laugh track, it's an live audience
A laugh has been added to instruct the audience who cannot decide whether to laugh or cry.
If there wasn't a laugh track, everyone would think it was real.....oh wait a sec
Scary as hell.
It is NOT a laughing track! Recorded infront of a live audience. Jesus! Are you trolling? Are you?
Are all Party Whips this fucking terrifying? Didn't realise how apt the name was.
Only the....effective ones.
You call that terrifying? A real Chief Whip who was competent would have him in tears or laughter. Read "Breaking the Code," ministerial diaries of Gyles Brandreth when he was a junior whip in the Major government. MPs who have been virtually on their death beds have been brought in to vote on three-line whips; one during the Callahan government in the late '70s died days after he voted on a crucial three-line whip. That's just getting the job done.
Worse.
The Whips Office is in charge of Government or Opposition back-bench (and Cabinet) discipline and needs a certain amount of "persuasion" to operate effectively. Withdrawing the Whip from a stubborn or disruptive MP is a very serious matter as the MP will have to sit as an Independent or even seek re-election in a by-election.
@@stephenphillip5656
😀Yes, thanks for the BBC Parliament segment. I actually just meant the out-and-out blackmail. ( “Put a bit of stick about.”) Maybe the establishment only promote people they know are already compromised.
Greatest satirical program ever made, timeless still to this day it rings true
It was produced as satire in the 1980s. Today, it's truth bombs.
Brilliantly done! I was a tad too young to appreciate this when it first aired, and I fear it's mostly wasted on many people these days.
I was -9 when this first aired and still had 2 years till birth when it went off. Don't worry, people who will appreciate it will find it.
@@DayneD89 I hope you're right.
That little hand rub at 2:06 ... like he got rapped over the knuckles like a naughty school boy haha
The little things make this show great.
Endless amounts of them, lol, really make the show.
The amazing thing is, its the Whip who is mostly responsible for Mr. Hacker getting to be PM.
Mirelle Larouge
Why wouldn't he?
Look at how Hacker bends and shapes under his guiding hand.
;)
Wrong, it was a different one
Yeah, as Bruno says, the Whip changed. Likely retired or died off-screen I suppose.
Then once he becomes PM he simply forgets that the same will be done to him
It's called "plausible deniability" :-D
Life isn't as simple as most people like to think. The reason? People. That and the fact that there are always at least 10,000 things most of us don't know about and a lot of them are just as horrifying as the things we do know about.
This is someone in power convincing someone else that money, power, their own safety and positions of influence are worth more than peoples lives.
Kind of the point. The power of Yes Minister has always been that it makes you warm to it's characters, and then pulls the rug out from under. Hacker is well meaning, but ultimately weak and an easy puppet for the immoral actors around him.
@@GrimgoreIronhide He is the perfect mix hypocrit, stupid, coward, greedy for power. The kind of man who never takes responsibillity for his own life and actions. And thats the reason he gets possisjon he has. The real power see him as a perfect puppet to be the face of power
A comedic portrayal of an undeniable reality. Arms sales DOES INDEED comprise a significant part of UK trade - it's highly lucrative and we (the UK) are exceptionally good at it ... amongst the very best in the world. So, the question is ... should we continue? I would argue that the clear answer is YES- it makes a massive contribution to balance of trade, employs a LOT of individuals and if the UK were to stop ... someone else would rapidly take the business over, with no impact whatsoever on world arms production, sales and research ... other than thousands out of work in the UK!
The same argument could be help for the American arms industry. We tried it and the only thing that did was put lots of Aussies out of work.
The number of Italians murdered due to Operation Gladio is of course, not part of your calculus.
So true, and so timeless...
I remember how he got out of this one, if he told the PM, he was in trouble with the PM and he’d lose his job. If he didn’t, the Army officer that told him would go to the papers and he’d tell them that he had told Hacker about the sale of British arms to terrorists. While Hacker, Humphrey, Bernard and I think the other person might have been Weasel, I mean Wiesel, were brain storming how to get Hacker out of trouble, it was Bernard who suggested they use the Rhodesian solution.
There are no morals in business, particularly Big business. Britain is not alone.
One shudders to think of the happen-stances that might occur without the likes of the Chief Whip to remind the various parties of the bigger picture.
Extremely surprised they broached the extremely sensitive subject of Operation Gladio.
Although due to the extraordinary efforts of an Italian judge, we learned it was a US led effort to frame the Italian Communists. The cover story was that they were funding "stay behind armies."
The Whisky Priest was broadcast 1982.
The Arms to Iraq Scott Inquiry was commissioned in 1992.
"Yes there's a lot you don't know about"
Fantastic acting from both of them
Some things change very little!
Except the names of the countries. We change allies at about the same frequency with which one changes one's underwear.
Nothing has changed since ancient Rome.
These things haven't changed since people were living in caves, and living and fighting as tribes of 20 men.
I find this sad rather than funny. Someone who was going to act according to conscience, to help stop the killng of innocent people, talked out of it for only for political reasons
It's so true that I almost cried. Hard to imagine the BBC producing such realism again in my lifetime
This is so eerily true of the Covid lockdowns vs the economy debate.
Situations like this are precisely why you have an intelligence service
Presumably the initial information came from an intel service. Possibly MI-5 noticing some trade irregularities. But intel agencies cannot act on such information on their own. Bond in real life is just a guy writing down information. The moment he starts fighting that is already a failure.
The intelligence service is probably well aware of the. To quote Lord of War, the UN big five are the biggest exporters of weapons, to all kinds of people. The matter is that quite a lot of their customers are indeed...disreputable individuals.
Masterful
And here we are the day Boris became PM.
Simon says. God I wish I had vocabulary. Fantastic 2 n fro 👍🤣🤗
Who was the actor who played the chief whip? Superb
"Yes Minister" wasn't a sit-com, it was a public information programme.
"The true obstacle to effective performance of democracy"- this *is* effective performance. As Humphrey said, if you sell weapons, they will end up in the hands of people who have the money to buy them. Wringing your hands over the fact that terrorists got them instead of dictators is nothing short of hypocricy.
I love the marginal constituency bit ....they are all the same...men of interest ..but no principal...the next foreign secretary does it...watch him twist...brilliant!!
The stupidity ignorance and selfishness of the public is ultimately to blame though isn't it? Because they would vote against someone just for losing them their jobs on moral grounds!
@@lxdimension As Appleby said in the first episode “the public have the right to be ignorant”
Many conversations very similar to this have happened in real life
well he's not wrong...
Ultimately, it's not about government. It's about human nature.
Government is about the prevention of anarchy. That is the regulation of human nature
"Moral self-indulgence" - good way to frame all the social media outrage these days over every little thing.
What show name is?
The title of the video is the name of the show.
The episode is"The Whisky Priest".
I think this is the sort of thing that happened at a point in the arms to Iraq affair.
this guy is the late 20th century version of malcolm tucker
Ah the whips. I wonder how they sleep at night. If it be at night they sleep...
They don't sleep. The whips are having satanic rituals at night drinking adrenochrome
they sleep because they are practical, realists. And they have a "stoic/zen" view of life. That is they have a strict separasjon of what is in they`re controll and what is not. That is they dont worry about decisions thats not their`s to make. You see we all start out as young idealists or maby even naiv fools like mr Hacker. But thoose of us who have tastes in shows/art like this start to learn the irony and randomess of life and need to adapt if we are not going to go under in depression of the madness of the crowds and the often stupidity and narcissism of their leaders/masters. You may blame the wips and the Sir Humphreys of this world, but i think that deep inside you knew this. You just dont want to admit it.
This is what bullying looks like!
They call the position "Chief Whip" for a reason.
A couple of things I didn't quite get from this ep. - Humphrey could have saved Hacker the trouble and told him what the PM would have said (which is everything the Whip said) Also what sense is there in keeping it from the PM when there's already a source out there? The story's going to break whether Hacker tells the PM or not.
Its not in this clip but Humphrey gives Bernard the task of stopping Hacker from reaching the PM. A civil servant cannot stop a Cabinet minister from speaking to the Prime minister. So it has to be done by a politician. Whose job is it to terrify MPs into line? The Chief Whip! and that's who Hacker is talking to. Bernard arranges the meeting to be with the Chief Whip. And yes bullying and intimidation are key weapons in the Chief Whips armoury. After that, he softens. Having cowed Hacker he can use another weapon-flattery, hence the line that Hacker could be Foreign Secretary-if he keeps his mouth shut.
Hacker could overrule Humphrey and sometimes he goes half cocked and might make a “courageous decision”. This might explain why the whip is involved here. However I don’t fully remember this episode.
And yes we are still selling :) Are we still doing this do you think - is Vic still a bully?
Hacker gets played
OHHHH GREAT
How did this documentary get as camera in the real Westminster? 😉
And here we are thinking about normal things
They should record it again with "Saudi Arabia and Israel" instead of "terrorists" and put it in the news. It will still hold true
You (intentionally or not) forgot Iran.
If that terrorist group was the IRA, however.....
The IRA got plenty of money/arms from the Americans prior to 9/11... Morality and politics many times don't intersect...
I am totally on the side of the Whip on this Subject.
Really? lol
Welcome to capitalism.
That's pretty disgusting.
@wholeNwon How is a public arms contract anything to do with capitalism? How brainwashed can you be?
@@wholeNwon As opposed to what - Communism? Socialism? Do check out whom the commie Soviets sold arms to. Or whom any non-capitalist country that can produce militaryware sell them to.
John Dozier
common purpose
Some dude with a conscience being gaslighted into giving it up. What else is new ?
Joe biden needs to hear this
and that's the another lesson in politics
hahaha
J
Sadly this is all true, it happens, and no ones cares.
Hacker's problem is that he keeps accepting the premise. "Either you're in the arms business or not".
"Bull. There's such a thing is differentiated responsibilities. Some people cannot be trusted as customers of British arms. And we are well within our rights as the dealer to sell to someone else."
The rhetoric goes that if we are too picky about customers then they we simply buy from the Russians or the Chinese.
@@gentblue "If I wasn't doing it then somebody else would be doing it"
They can be traded on again. You have no control over who ultimately wields and uses weapons.
Government equivalent of Omertà.
DA
K
TBH this show is far more depressing than funny :/
Satan 101
I could see Jeremy Corbyn in the position of Hacker MP.
Really? I can't see him having any principled thoughts.
In real life I'd say tell the PM because he's a cnut...
I didn't know the British had their own NRA
This show was confusing. Hacker was the PM.
What’s the confusion?
Not at this point. He is a Minister here.
this is yes, minister. later it became yes, prime minister.
Here he is merely a Minister of Administrative Affairs. S3E6.
That character Vic was the worst actor I've seen in the show, and a most aggressive character. Not an enjoyable clip.
It's not the Chief Whip's job to be "liked". Their remit is to keep Party discipline and show the would-be rebels/trouble-makers the iron fist if necessary
@@stephenphillip5656
1) I know full well what the job of the chief whip is in parliament and how "unliked" they MIGHT be because of it. That was not the point of my comment.
2) I stated that, in my opinion, the actor overplayed the role to present as a really nasty, agressive character, which is NOT necessary to do ANY JOB efficiently and well. Whilst I felt his scripted lines were great, and no doubt pretty true to reality, his delivery was poor.
3) Please do not assume everyone else in the world is stupid ... plus, read and consider their comments more thoughtfully before pontificating as you did, you pompous arse.
actually a good actor as he comes over so aggressive and scary
@@marcokite
My comment was to say he OVER PLAYED the role to the point of crap acting.
@@thedolphin5428no, totally realistic. Superb acting. Which is sort of what you would expect from an actor like Reg Jewesbury, who was in the RSC, and got headhunted into the Renaissance Theatre Company by Richard Branagh and Judy Dench. You can see him in the film version of Henry V.