The Writers’ Strike Rocking Hollywood, Explained | WSJ
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- Опубликовано: 4 июл 2024
- The Hollywood writers’ strike has more than 11,000 movie and television writers in the Writers Guild of America on strike for the first time in 15 years.
WSJ sat down for exclusive interviews with the showrunners of “Abbott Elementary” and “The Handmaid’s Tale” to understand the key sticking points that led to the writers’ strike and what’s next for the entertainment industry.
0:00 Writers’ strike has brought productions to a halt
0:50 How streaming has transformed the industry
4:20 The 2007-2008 writers’ strike
4:59 The writers’ demands
7:13 The strike’s impact on the entertainment industry
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I think what this video is critically missing is the the whole topic of residuals - how residuals were structured pre streaming, and how they are now.
They do talk about residuals at 6:36
Those certain people: they just want to put their fan fiction and political ideas into media, does no one remember that a writer’s strike is what ruined James Bond???!!!
Read the _“Streaming Residuals”_ section @ 5:53….
“Under the current formula for a one-hour series produced for Netflix or Amazon Prime Video, a writer receives *$72,000* in residuals _for one episode_ over three years. Over five years, that amount grows to *$99,000,* and *then to $114,000 over seven years.* _The companies most recent offer further improves on this.”_
…what am I missing here??? What’s wrong with *that?!*
British writers have been producing 6 episode seasons for decades now and the BBC seems to pay them enough that it's been sustainable. Especially because there are no adverts or product placements either for the BBC and Channel 4 and ITV only have a 70m possible advertisement base. So I really don't get that somehow American giants can't/won't pay their writers enough to produce 8 and 10 episodes a year to 10s of millions more people.
Different unions, different studios, different contracts
just different culture, i assume at least. i know from experience that tons of americans are so accustomed to poor treatment/pay, that the idea of reasonable pay and treatment is absurd to them. its sad.
@@janechoy2073 Also Hollywood were the people who created the now infamous "Hollywood accounting" that's designed solely to screw people, don't be surprised that Hollywood is cutting every corner to avoid paying people so the execs can horde that money for themselves.
@@Koreryn It's also extremely rare for a actor to suck up that much of the budget anyways. Most production budget is spent on locations, filming schedule and effects.
@@janechoy2073 different ceos, different greedy bastards, different pigs. etc etc
“Under the current formula for a one-hour series produced for Netflix or Amazon Prime Video, a writer receives *$72,000* in residuals _for one episode_ over three years. Over five years, that amount grows to *$99,000,* and *then to $114,000 over seven years.* _The companies most recent offer further improves on this.”_
…what am I missing here??? What’s wrong with *that?!* better investment than I’ve _ever_ made
These mfs get paid more sitting in an air-conditioned room than I did roofing people's houses in 100-degree heat.
Take into account that’s just one episode, if that writer did a 12 episode season, and did 2 seasons, that’ll be around 2 million dollars if not more… just for one series, if they’re doing multiple series it could be even more. They should be grateful so many different people would be insanely happy with that kind of pay.
These guys are the brains of the operation. Not directors, not producers, or executives producers. The writers are the ones who really creates the show or the movies. Their the ones who create the world and if their not getting the respect or recognition or more importantly the pay they deserved then Hollywood can try to make their own ideas!
Meh. Everything they write sucks.
So these are the people responsible for the terrible shows I’ve seen recently. As far as I’m concerned they should strike forever the vast majority of them have no talent in storytelling and are activists not writers.
@@mikewashko they need to learn to code
@@mikewashko You and chuck could write all our new shows. I'd look forward to that.
I'm in the idea business--research and art. I've had so many ideas stolen and still see it and have it done to me all the time. It just makes me not want to talk to those people, and sometimes my colleagues in general. I just am boring and shake my head. It's gotten that bad. Remember when Prince put SLAVE on the side of his face? Many artists do not even own their own music, art or other formats. If you make your living or even an advocatin. from ideas/property and someone stole your property/ideas that is illegal/. NO ONE even blinks an eye if you even harm someone else's property --land, stuff, v knowing that property are your ideas and how your applyu them. Credit goes where credit due.
Actos are paid too much.
Studio execs are paid too much.
Cut those two, then everyone will get fair pay.
Or they could just get another job
I support the writers - but the problem stated - a writer under the streaming system is 8-12 weeks then at 3:17 earlier the shown contract is shown that a weekly minimum is 11-12 K per week. They say that a writer can't live on that. (3:38) so quick math - 8 weeks x 11,000 = 88,000 $ - so if a writer gets one gig a year at 88,000 - taxes it should leave $60K - or 5K a month for working 8 weeks. REALLY? Is this what you cannot live on? I get it - everyone wants more - but is this a poor writer - it's a change - sure. If you get 2 gigs a year - thats a very livable wage.
We want more - ok
We want residuals - like the old TV networks with Ads... ok (but that's gone)
We can't live on that.... come on.
I'm also irritated how people can't live off that. However people like Bob Iger (Disney Chief Executive Officer) makes 25 MILLION a month + bonuses... No one needs even a million per month. At least 24 Million a Month should be distributed amongst the people working behind the scenes - cleaning staff, carpenters, catering ect. They are the ones who really keep productions up and running
See on its own it looks like they’re making a livable wage but you have to remember that most writers have to live near or in big cities like LA, where cost of living is much higher
@@artmis6158 Okay, but 88.000 a year for only 3-4 months of work is still a liveable wage - even in LA. And that's the minimum they are paid. Nurses, teachers all also live in LA and don't make that much, but they still have to commute to work every single day, while writers can technically just sit at home for the other 8-9 months they're not writing for a show... (Or they could get another job/ write for another show...) I just checked and a 3 bedroom apartment in LA is around 5000 per month. That's really expensive, but would still leave 2000 a month. I'm not sure if that would be enough for groceries and other expenses in LA, but if someone lives in a 3 bedroom apartment I assume they have a family and their partner is also working. That means a writers 3-4 salery is enough to afford an apartment for the entire year.
Prices are going up everywhere. I know people who work 40+ hours a week, year around and have to live with housemates because the cost of living is so expensive. And those people work jobs that benefit other's lives. We have to be a bit honest here and admit that writers don't fullfill live-saving jobs in dangerous work environments
3:17 was about development rooms. Writers must commit to a show before it's decided whether the show will be produced at all. It's like taking a job with a VERY high likelihood that you'll be laid off in 3 months. But maybe you won't be. But you probably will be. But you hope not.
They. live. in. los. Angeles, where most of this stuff is made. also $88,000 in LA is different than in Arkansas. also the writers are an integral part of alot of people making a lot of money; they deserve their fair share. just because people are artists doesnt mean they aren't working within a capitalist system which ironically is all about valuations
2007-2008 a war in Iraq, economy crashed, and writers strike.
2022-2023 a war in Ukraine, economy is heading for collapse, and a writers strike.
Hmmm The game makers are running out of ideas I see.
Couple all this with the politics that have crept their way into these programs and you have a recipe for disaster. You can’t leave the consumers out of the equation. If they don’t like your content because they feel it’s too preachy, that hurts the industry as well.
Honestly, I think that hurts the writers as well. An executive comes in and says “make it more woke”, and then the writers have to shoehorn in a message.
Media with careful artistic political messages actually don’t bother the audiences. I think of Arcane, which had some politics in it. But I would watch arcane a million times before I would want to watch the politics of “Rise of Skywalker.”
As usual, whenever I've read or watched anything about the writers' strike, there are NO details. For instance, 1) What is the minimum wage that writers are currently making and how much do are they asking they make? 2) What is their current, mean residual for a writer on a streaming show and what are they asking? 3) What is the mean salary of a writer on a streaming show and what are they asking?
It is just propaganda, as usual. They just want you to focus on your feelings, which in this case is meant to be empathy for the writers.
@@pepps779 What's wrong with workers striking? Are you on the side of corporations?
@@akkakkakekkn Are you trying to exemplify the point of my comment? I critique a news company for peddling emotion over information, and your response is one of pure emotion and ignorance. You are a literal stereotype of a customer that this video is targeted towards.
@@pepps779 you didn’t critique a news company, you called it ‘propaganda’ with literally 0 elaboration and called it a day.
@@pepps779 No I understand what you were saying I was just curious whether you were for the strike or against it?
Just to check (did anybody catch this??) : a writer "simply can't live" (3:30) on ten weeks a year at ten thousand dollars a week? .. is that how the writing rooms work, or is there some other lower-paying gig they are doing? -- thanks
I caught the 10 weeks but not the $10k a week sorry.
@@FutureCommentary1 hey, thanks for posting a comment .. I tried looking it up; I think for a lot of writers it's more like about $5000/week
Look at (3:18) “That offer included increased minimum rates for those working in development rooms (from $10,798 to $11,554 per week in the first year of the agreement).
So you have more writers than the industry need. Sounds like a simple supply and demand issue. Some writers need to go and find a new job. It sounds cruel but it’s true.
If earning close to 100,000 dollars is not enough, thats absolute bonkers! This strike should not recieve support. How is 100,000 dollars not enough?? Even if u are working only for half a year!
Most writers are paid minimum wage
No entry level, or even mid level writer, is being paid 100000. It’s closer to 30k
Sorry, I just figured out where you got that number. That’s the pay for a DEVELOPMENT room. Where you work for like 2 weeks. It’s not the same as a writers room. No one is paid like that every week every year
Los Angeles... nuff said
People that complain that nothing original is made in Hollywood seem to think that we should use AI to write scripts. Unfortunately people see this conflict separate from their lives/profession. This is a race to the bottom and it’s not stopping at writing jobs.
People saying nothing original is being made and that AI is the solution when it literally by definition pulls from existing materials and cannot create anything of its own… 🤦♀️
They should learn to code
@@chuck9483 AI can already code for us, no need to learn
@@liftingskies8970 interesting, ya know at one point they were saying that computers would take over blue collar jobs. But it turns out computers are creative! And it can do a desk job! Well maybe the writers can get a job picking fruit or something.
@@chuck9483 Only illegals do job picking fruit jobs.
Let’s all keep in mind when they say “living wage,” they mean living in THE MOST EXPENSIVE PLACES IN AMERICA! I feel so so bad that you might have to leave your Hollywood condo or Manhattan apartment. Some people really have it rough I know..
Listen to the writers. They are the brain of the industry. After working 20 hard years as a scriptwriter, I left the industry because I always had to work on regular jobs too to pay my rent, that's insane. And I refuse to be unseen in my work or treated like s***. It must be fair!
Well..write a decent script. Most of you “writers” lately have been writing 💩💩💩💩💩💩
Not sure I want a Nanny negotiating for me!
Sag threw us under the bus..now they want our help..bs
May e if they didnt write garbage people would support them
the industry sucks... time to cure the brain
Do these terrible conditions explain the horrible state of Hollywood's garbage writing levels?
In the real world, nobody cares, or even notices😂😂😂
Just listened to Tom Hanks on a PBS deal regarding writers strike … he could be an awesome lawyer - he talked,and talked, and talked…but, never answered the question ‘…supporting the writers in this strike (2023)…’
What's to stop studios in the meantime from licensing shows from abroad, replacing the shows on hiatus? Plenty are even already in English.
Why only protest in Hollywood? Ain't this a global issue also? Writers are often underpaid, while they create important content, but the same goes for artists in general. Anyone remember the story of Van Gogh?
They deserve fair pay. Canada's government employees strike a few weeks ago and they got a 12% or 13% raise I believe. Everyone should strike, it forces the industry to reevaluate where the money is going towards at the expense of other workers. Some actors and actresses get paid too much.
Define fair
@@Koreryn they do? if they do, they should stop striking. They're accelerating their replacement by AI
I believe that their payment should be equal to the quality work - 11k a week is far too much compared to what they have created in the last couple years
@@Koreryn Yeah and they have to live in LA. Who's determining what's fair? The writers or the ones who need them or a couple mil of their billion $ profits. Disney is the worst. They should deregulate that horrible comglomerate.
@@Koreryn blame the victims. No one wants a strike.
If writers win...all will win....writers are not the problem....
They write garbage though. AI can do that now.
@@chuck9483 Chuck needs to try to write a short story to begin then go live deep in the forest.
@@jschuler53 you need to try to write a coherent sentence. The writers need to find a new profession. They are unnecessary.
@@chuck9483 Why don't you apply for the job, you say you have the skills. Isn't this fun?
@@jschuler53 I have a job. It's the writers who don't want to work. We can import some more Latinx. They are willing to do the jobs Americans don't want.
I love it, I can catch up on all my old shows, I remember when The Sopranos were held off for a year, it made it so much better.
Didn't it end before the 2008 - 09 strike?
@@LewdConnoisseur oh my bad must have it confused with mad men.
@@LewdConnoisseur 07-08*, but your point still stands.
Isn't the US an outlier with seasons that last 20+ episodes?
UK's tend to have 6 to 8 episodes. So do much of the streaming platforms' shows.
Not every show is a cash cow that can churn out 20+ episodes every year
By the way, it sounds kind of a stretch to demand that writers be paid so much that they can afford to live writing in one show per year
These shows make that much. Also I remember working in the industry and they were always trying to stiff writers and it shocked me. I'm like, you do not have anything without them.
NNN IGo read some books then.
@@jschuler53 They should write some and keep the money.
@@madelineward6582 a lot of shows fail or lose money
It sounds kind of a stretch that writers can live off of one show per year and yet actors can live several years out of one season. Actors to me are more generic than good writing.
So…. Their weekly wage is… above 10k and a bonus of 42k per one hour episode. Um so… that’s a car. Taking uber might be more of a convenience in this case…
I don't see anything wrong with people wanting to be paid what they're rightfully worth for the work they do. For too long a lot of businesses have paid employees what they think they deserve and that needs to change, so if a strike will bring about change for the better i stand with the writers 1000% in their quest....but that's just me
Sure…. Just like a McD worker wants 165k per year…. I guess that sounds right to you as well ?
I would like to hear more from the producers. Their point of view is essential for the discussion.
Yeah I'd suggest they remember the audience, no audience no anything
The biggest obstacle facing writers and television actors is beating RUclipss numbers.
My daughters love to watch stupid RUclips videos, and frequently prefer it to actual shows. No idea why they like it, but Hollywood has competition that it never did before. I just don't see where the money is going to come from
you mean the content that has no writing or acting. 😄 Yep YT is more entertaining than anything hollywood puts out
Well television is dead
Well maybe they could try writing quality, not quantity
Watching Hollyweird melt down is more entertaining than the garbage they've been turning out.
Writers are one who work so hard but gets paid little
If they wrote good material I might possibly care. But I’m sick of the greed. All they’ve been producing for years is exactly the same tripe- yet they want even more for the same? Disgusting across the board.
That is up to the executives. Most of horrible writing is after executive start talking about targeting demographics blah blah blah
What a simple minded and intellectually dishonest take. Greed? Wanting to be paid properly for your work and intellectual property is greedy?
@@vomo8322 it’s not like they’re not getting paid for them, they’re getting paid, they just want more, and that’s the definition of greed
Finally someone who agrees like if they made good shows and movies I would but in today times heck no
@@fos1451not all writers are getting paid well. It’s a different job.
Execs are the problem. They get paid EVERYTHING for forcing some poor writers to write the line “Palpetine … has returned.”
Did that writer want to write that line? No. But the execs wanted Palpetine back.
It’s hard to support the writers guild for more pay…. When they make on average $250k a year
The problem is most networks or streaming services buy the creators content outright and have no say in what gets done to it the writers have to remember with out them the networks are done i hope all this goes for movie studios as well
Those actors wouldn't have anything to do without writers. The higher ups wouldn't have their pay without writers. Pay writers what they are worth!
susan shows like SNL and the late night political comedy shows absolutely depend on the writers. And some of the best tv. I miss those shows, not the same as watching "the news."
@@jschuler53 I am very aware of shows that require writers as evidenced by my statement above. I miss those shows and they must pay writers what they are worth if they wish to continue. That's Just.
Artificial intelligence will change that in the future.
@@MichaelWalker-wu2pq We will see. Humans and AI's have some fundamental differences. And for right now - writers should be paid justly for services rendered.
@Susan Fuchs it's virtually inevitable. All things technology improve overtime. The first generation of a new tech might be rough but with more companies and more money invested they get better. Tvs, computers, cell phones, cars, etc. The same will be the case with A.I.
“Writing is like a gig economy”
It totally is! Wake up writers.
The whole Hollywood machine (unless you are salaried) is a gig system. Not just the writers. Everyone is freelance so it’s a gig job.
I have already stopped my subscription for DisneyPlus, Netflix and Amazon Prime in solidarity with the writers.
their (writers & actors) core existential issues are that they're all irrelevant.
Silly question as I am not familiar w/the industry: why do they need to live and work in Los Angeles? Can the job be done remotely?
its more fame and power for them if they live in la
Nah, because all the jobs are through networking and it's difficult to network virtually. Also if a writer gets promoted to showrunner, they need to be on set for that
@@marzipan2555 I think the poster was asking about regular staff writers. With Zoom and SharePoint technology, why couldn't the job be done remotely? My sister-in-law is a Nurse Administrator for a hospital that's over 1,000 miles away. If she can do that in the *medical* field, surely a TV writer can work from home in Iowa.
@@marzipan2555 but UNTIL they get promoted they don't HAVE to be there. idk sounds more so like privilege to me
@@roccoz2231 In theory yes but that's not how studios work. They want you in la and ny. That's where the studios are so the jobs follow. So it could be done remotely but the studios aren't allowing it.
These big companies should loose money for disrespecting the brains and the heart of those who bring them these high yields.
Pay these people sufficient residuals for what they are worth
Nahh.. i aint willing to pay $50 a month for Netflix
First time? Didnt we have a strike just a few years ago?
If you think 2007 was a few years ago.
The quality of writing in shows and films has been declining for years before this strike with original content being phased out for remakes, it's as if writers these days have no original ideas so they just redo something that was a hit 20 years ago, I don't think I will even notice if they get replaced by AI
Entertainment is absolute garbage nowadays....
The fact that the offer is “the most generous one in 25 years” is more evidence that this “generosity” is a bit overdue
I don’t know what to think now, sure, Falcon and the Winter Soldier, Wandavision, Loki, etc. are short seasons, but they are like movies that are chopped down to segments. I don’t know all the details but, I need someone to explain, how even on a production that is close to that of a movie, why the writers are having issues.
There are only about 6 shows i watch between abc,cbs,foxnand nbc,Abbott elementary is one and love it.
What is annoying is the amount of episode is airing for each episode nowadays. For me, there is no way I can enjoy a show with 6-8 episodes. That's ridiculous
The level of entitlement of the interviewees is off the chart. They literally can’t see how insane they sound.
People often forget that Writing is one of the hardest jobs for any project. It's a fact.
not as hard as directing. Thinking of a plot twist is one thing, bringing that to life in an audio-visual and immersive way is another.
Why not both? 🤷🏻♀️
@@Mr.Timwell good take 👍
As a customer paying for these subscription services, I want to see a badge or icon which makes it clear if the production was written by a human being or AI. I want to support human creativity as this is what is inspiring asa viewer to watch what other humans have created to share with one another. I am not interested in artificial stories written about humans.
Middle and upper middle class jobs are getting a taste of what the poor have gone through since forever. They just have the privilege of having a strong union. It's time for a univeral basic income. Ai will make this happen.
"ChatGPT, write the plot to the final season of the Handmaid's Tale"
If they can get a bot to do art, it can do YOUR Job. we need to be a lot more worried about this
There's a video here comparing AI made script and human made script for Succession. AI-made is very bland and Disney-channel fodder quality.
@@Koreryn I don't know if it can work on late night writers though. That requires some sense of political satire and must work on current events rather than past data. I'm talking formulaic Hallmark movie or Disney teen movie types. AI cannot create something inspired though, like Breaking Bad or Game of Thrones or Succession.
Who's protesting Netflix because they need to pay too, all this dang money they charging me every month. There is no way that we should be paying an up charge every few years or months and the writers are broke 🤦🏿♀️
Cancel all streamers. Support independent producers! We are always silenced and given pennies for shows when these big businesses are making all the profits
No
Another issue is, why are the same faces in EVERY movie? This is why other newer actors CANNOT get work!!!
Kickbacks
the problem with streaming service is what matters is quantity over quality. they prefer a short series with catchy bait rather than a long one.
I wish them good luck 🤞
Here’s comes the Al reality shows!
The strike has been great. Since the late night shows are off, my wife and I have discovered a bunch of fun RUclips channels. I think we are ready to give up commercial tv! Thanks WGA. (“Well Written” is a phrase one never sees on film and tv reviews lately).
Do you support the writers striking? I think it comes down to it, do you support workers standing up for their rights and better pay? Or do you support corporations taking advantage of workers? Are you a corporate shill?
I'm genuinely curious do you support when workers go on strike or join unions? When coal workers went on strike in 1902 do you think that was the right decision? Or the rail strike from a year ago?
@@akkakkakekkn I support workers. Especially if they are good at their trade. Unfortunately Hollywood writers are not good. I think the WGA should support their members by providing training.
@@akkakkakekkn I support workers. No one should be taken advantage of. That said, just because a worker says they are being taken advantage of, that doesn’t automatically make it true. I don’t think the grievances listed as causes for this strike are that severe. But. My comment was that writing has not been good lately. If the WGA wants to support their members they should provide writing training.
If you can’t find good tv nowadays that’s not the WGAs fault. Personally I’m having a great time with Abbott, OFMD and succession. However I would never use someone bad at their job as an excuse to deny others a livable wage, I think that’s extreme.
The shareholders, producers, & corporate should take a big ol’ pay cut.
I canceled my streaming services until the strike ends! ❤
In the era of artificial intelligence, we must acknowledge the risk of job displacement that affects all professions, and the strike action by the Hollywood entertainment union is not the solution. On the contrary, we should emphasize that everyone has a responsibility to cultivate their skills and value to adapt to this changing era.
First and foremost, it's essential to recognize that the rise of artificial intelligence poses a risk of job displacement across all professions. This extends far beyond the boundaries of Hollywood's entertainment industry and impacts society at large. The emergence of machine learning and automation technology has rendered many traditional jobs obsolete, including those in the arts and performance fields. Therefore, our focus should not solely be on protecting the rights of the Hollywood entertainment union but rather on addressing the challenges faced by society as a whole.
Secondly, the strike action by the Hollywood entertainment union does not solve the problem; it only exacerbates professional divisions. While advocating for rights is undoubtedly important, we must not overlook the global economic and technological shifts. Resisting technological advancements will only leave individuals in a passive position, unable to adapt to the challenges of change. Instead, we should encourage actors and writers to proactively enhance their skills and grasp emerging technologies and cultural trends.
Lastly, every individual bears the responsibility of developing their skills and value. The Hollywood entertainment union's strike may foster a sense of dependency, leading people to believe that union protection shields them from the threat of job displacement forever. However, the real solution lies in elevating individual aptitude and competitiveness through continuous learning and growth, allowing them to face future challenges.
In conclusion, we should not support the Hollywood entertainment union's strike action. Instead, we should encourage each person to find their purpose, develop their skills, and cultivate their value to confront the challenges of job displacement in the age of artificial intelligence. Only by doing so can we maintain competitiveness and resilience in this ever-changing era.
Sounds like demand is down … too bad
Netflix, Hulu, apple, this is going to be a long fight
Yes!! More strikes in Hollywood more jobs for us in Asia.
Thx guys, the pay is great for us here.
Plus you write more original material.
These writers had written all the craps in last decade and 99% movies nowadays are garbage only. Why audience will bother if it is written by AI or human.
keep on fighting!
The model has changed. Deal with it. Shows only need 8 episodes. You can’t be paid more “just because.”
And why no representatives from the studios in this video? It’s a one sided video.
Wow 10,000 dollars a week is not enough. They need to be out of a job.
I need numbers. What is “minimum rates”
You know as I ponder this strike I realize that AI types of performers do not appeal to me. I do not animee because I prefer live action performers.
So, actual human beings interpreting roles and/or performing can never be replaced with one exception. Game show hosts- but not contestants - can be replaced with BOTS. Good grief those hosts talk too much ie the host of Masterminds🤯
And, someone’s likeness should not be used unless the model is compensated and he or she receive ongoing residuals.
I guess I now support the strike by both unions and do so by not patronizing sponsors of repeated programs.
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Give these hard working people what they want…
Meanwhile, the viewing public would be content to have better and fewer films and shows.
Honestly, Even after watching this vid, I'm still not sure what the writers want, like they don't want the small writer's room and paid fairly, but they also concede that no one is watching tv like before, so IDK, sounds like one of those catch 22 situations.
Writers aren't getting residuals like they used to which was where most of their money comes from. The reason they aren't getting residuals is that there are no more 'reruns' nowadays since with streaming, all the content is always on demand.
So the writers are negotiating a new payment method under the new rules that is streaming.
New game, new rules.
@@shmookins Absolutely New Platform need new Rules to keep up the growing industry.
For collective bargaining to work you have to being something to the table. What is an employers incentive to settle when they're loosing money on you?
You fight when you have something to fight for or with, just because you think it unfair is not enough, you have to have something to offer to make a deal worthwhile.
The concept of staff writers explains why everything is the same and everything is failing now. They need new stories, new writers and a fresh approach to entertainment. So just how much is a collective of stagnant writers worth?
They don't have a right to a job, they have to create something others want to be productive and profitable. Having staff writers is actually why everything coming out of Hollywood is just BLAH!
When your job is entertainment and what you're turning out is neither entertaining or profitable why assume your job is not only safe but you can demand more money? Hollywood is failing right now, why do writers think it's not their fault?
I support the writers!
John Doe. I support the writers! I miss the shows but this is more imortant.
Watch older shows they were better anyway.
@@mikewashko Are you one of these people who are stuck in the 50s-60s? Or some decade long ago?
@@mikewashko Doesn't mean writers don't deserve to be paid for their work. They barely make a liveable wage.
@@akkakkakekkn They are paid 11k a week for a average 12 weeks a year. Still adds up to more then me or I dare say most people here make a year. Also FYI the country is in a recession now is not the time.
80s, 90s The golden yrs it will never be repeated. Greed the companies are Greedy.
It's been a long time since I've seen anything out of Hollywood that wasn't terrible. Be careful you don't just get replaced. No one will miss you.
Haa Amateurs, Why need Writers When you can Explode Everything.
- Michael Bay
Serious question, what did this accomplish?
Nothing yet because it is ongoing. You should ask again when the strike is over.
In the meantime, you can look at what the last strike accomplished.
I always enjoy when people go on strike. Things seems to work out better.
So you don't support striking in american history? You don't support workers standing up for their rights? Do you support unions? Just curious
@@akkakkakekkn my comments answer your questions.
@@bngr_bngr Do you read comic books? Lots of comic writers involved in the WGA because they do tv and film now too. Pretty interesting actually.
@@akkakkakekkn I’m an adult. I don’t read comic books.
@@bngr_bngr Whoa jesus man. You know comics have changed a lot from the 50s and 60s. They aren't for kids anymore, I mean sandman, Watchmen, Batman year one, Batman long halloween, Saga, the walking dead. They are a respectable form of literature.
Well it took 148 days, but the writers' strike is finally over! And in more good news, SAG-AFTRA will be meeting with the AMPTP on Monday (10/2) for negotiations. Let's hope the actors can reach a deal soon too!
This is honestly just a great time for all American workers to fight back against greed and the class war
When was the last time they fought back successfully?
Remember Occupy Wall Street?
What happened?
Please make this stop. I miss the magical minds of the writers. I'm getting very bored with the boredom that results.
I live in Vegas and every time I see a celeb face on a series of slot machines, I wonder if that person got paid for that use? 🤔
Or maybe it was in Gene Wilders movie contract that the studio can use his likeness to promote Willy Wonka "for any reason, in any media, in perpetuity".
Now add AI to the mix, and its easy to see where this could be headed.
The Studio could "re-animate" Wilder in another Wonka movie (without Timothee) and save millions $$$$$$. 🙄
Not exactly fair, is it?
How is it not fair if he agreed to it?
I think you should dock writers for excessive use of "f-bomb", rather than real words-give them a thesaurus as part of the signing bonus, when you finally reach agreement. I find that I cannot watch many (most) of the series due to that excessive use. You might consider giving subscribers a rebate for the substitution of the "f-bomb" for real words. Or make actual literacy a requirement for screen writers. I am serious. It becomes more offensive each year.
If the government approves this I'm switching who I vote for. The writers were offered 80% of what they were asking for. The studios offered them higher wages, agreed with them on AI issues, pretty much everything but the amount of writers in the room. 20 is too much for a show with 10 episodes.
Good for them!! We can’t let corporate greed bully Americans into compliance.
This strike is so poorly timed, studios have every encouragement to spend their money on AI instead.
Hey ChatGPT, write me a script for…
The strike steepens the curve toward oblivion. Writers were going to be displaced strike or not. Just as when writers switched from quill & ink to typewriters to word processors. AI is just another tool. Some writers will transition to prompter-editor. Others will just have to try their hand at authoring ebooks.
@@CarFreeSegnitz correct - AI will start as a co-pilot, hollowing our white collar industries before ultimately replacing humans altogether (name your timeframe). Watch economy-wide inequality balloon.
If you thought the writing was bad now, wait until you see what AI can do.
Strikes in Tennessee closed at Woolworth in 1963. See no one in Tennessee as we are riot! People lie, die. Riot!
I find it funny that actors are walking out of premieres for the writers strikes yet they get the paycheck and make the tv shows and movies, when the actors wouldn’t be deek without writers
“Gasp” one of them had to DRIVE AN UBER during the months of vacation they had? How horrible! I can’t imagine the shame of having to do such a degrading job. (This is sarcasm obviously)
Noerdy you're forgetting this is LA and NYC--very high cost of living.
@@jschuler53 they don't have to live there
“None of us wanted this”
THEN WHY DO IT! 🤦♂️
If actors and executives cared about their writers and employees, they (actors / executives) would lower their own salary anonymously to keep things balanced .... but greed holds them back. That human ego at play ya'll ... we always asking for more. 😅😅😅😅
I don’t get it why don’t a set of writers just make a writers company and sell their services instead of being employed by the studios?
PAY THE WRITERS, they are the brains of the industry
And I wish them the best of luck
In their new careers?
Start over start your own high quality streaming services that are not endless scrolling and unending choice exhaustion. People are sick of it it is overwhelming and you spend so much wasted time choosing bc of the way they set it up. People will migrate to better choices.
Who is going to be able to pay for the increasing steaming costs & CEO bonuses when no one has a decent job left?
If anyone say that they’re loosing money in their business now….what about years of hoarding record profits sitting in their bank accounts & investment accounts?
They can all go on strike for the rest of their lives as far as I'm concerned. I've been watching RUclips and reruns of old movies, TV shows and documentaries for the past 5 to 10 years. I don't watch anything that they put out on TV or movies these days because most of it sucks. I think they're in for a rude awakening.
same here