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  • @NLaBruiser
    @NLaBruiser Месяц назад +212

    It feels like the hexes need a LOT of work prior to 1.0. Moon Water is S++, I do like Time Shift just to get like 25% damage reduction by *not* using it, and the rest seem extraordinarily underwhelming.

    • @TP-pq9xx
      @TP-pq9xx Месяц назад +45

      Just had a run with the lunar beam that split into 3 beams, stayed in place when I fired it, damaged all enemies in an area and also pierced through enemies. I could basically spam it every 10-20 seconds and it absolutely melted all bosses

    • @someoneontheinternet4518
      @someoneontheinternet4518 Месяц назад +10

      I got the one rhat makes you a monster with the demeter boon thag recovers magick rrally fast when you stand still. This combined with aspect of artimis Ωattack and i was functionally invincible

    • @ryanrodgers3099
      @ryanrodgers3099 Месяц назад +13

      Yeah, they're in an awkward spot Moon Water always feels great right out of the box. The rest range from okay, to terrible, to I-won't-bother-even-using-it when you first pick them up. Some need a lot of Selene to turn on, and some need a little bit.

    • @sagearistizabal5706
      @sagearistizabal5706 Месяц назад +5

      Honestlt the dark side one once you get into the path of stars and are able to extend its time and damage csn work a lot, specially in high magick builds where you can get it a lot

    • @Shellackle
      @Shellackle Месяц назад +5

      I upgraded the summon a few times, just curious how it'd be and against Cerberus I summoned a punchy guy that did 3k+ bursts within a second from each other, absolutely decimated

  • @combak2712
    @combak2712 Месяц назад +26

    I’m sure we’ll be see Zag in his bedroom, along with the rest of the House. The bloodline curse thing seems to exclude seeing him on the surface.

    • @BugManiacRoy
      @BugManiacRoy Месяц назад

      Mel is also afflicted by that curse, until the incantation that is. The crossroads are part of the underworld technically I guess

  • @thebiolibrary5572
    @thebiolibrary5572 Месяц назад +14

    I really feel like the third area of the surface will be *Mount* Olympus, as in the mountain that Olympus rests on top of. It could provide even more unconventional designs, like increased presence of bottomless pits and vertical surfaces. Then you get up to Olypmus itself as the fourth biome, and after beating the final boss Mel could speak to the Olympian gods in person.

  • @ScapularHail
    @ScapularHail Месяц назад +12

    About the theories of the next surfaces biomes, I do believe that it is going to be getting up to Olympus, and the next phases will be possible to see the Olympians that are missing, maybe in the same fashion that Artemis, like Ares, Athena and Dionysus. I think there will be something related to the Hesperides and Atlas (it would be cool to face Ladon) and the final boss of the surface could be Typhon. About Zagreus in the game, I really hope that they let us play as him sometime.

  • @karlrassmann4604
    @karlrassmann4604 Месяц назад +35

    My prediction for the surface route is Zone 3 Olympus, and then Zone 4 is some outer plane of existence where the Fates are kept.
    I also predict Eos will be featured on Olympus, and you have to clear zones before the sunrise dawns over it or Mel's fate-breaking spell will wear off and the damage tick will come back.

    • @johancito16345
      @johancito16345 Месяц назад

      I dont think there is something above olimpus tbh, there so much thing between where we fight charibdys and olimpus already, like almost half a chontinent

  • @DillonMeyer
    @DillonMeyer Месяц назад +58

    The Trial of Doom Chaos challenge is the hardest one simply because it's Oceanus, which arguably has the hardest enemies to deal with a low health build. It's at least properly tagged as a "Maximum eyes" difficulty challenge.
    Also, for the "Escaped" against Polyphemus, it's saying you escaped his grab attack. It deals over a hundred damage and heals him. When sheep spawn, he can eat them instead. Normal sheep give him health back, bomb sheep and hex sheep damage him with a steam effect and make him take longer to recover from the animation.
    I do think there's room for co-op, done like how Nemesis is implied to be going through the alternate paths you don't end up taking, meeting you in the middle when the rooms converge. Have both players be independently running towards the floor boss, making it harder for the player that's taking longer. Each encounter has one reward, so to be effective, the two players would have to split up or help each other in a room at the cost of a reward. When someone dies with no more death defiance, they can't be revived until the other player finds a fountain room on the floor or the fountain after the level boss.
    The addition of co-op could go further than just letting us play as Melinoe and Zagreus. We could play as Nemesis or Heracles for even more flavor on the mode if they so choose to expand the game even further after release.

    • @Diran_
      @Diran_ Месяц назад +4

      co-op would be so cool

    • @DoppelgangerTH
      @DoppelgangerTH Месяц назад +6

      Co-op is not happening (0% chance) but the idea is interesting

    • @quintengames3576
      @quintengames3576 Месяц назад +4

      Co-op is so unnecessary

    • @ibokarim5506
      @ibokarim5506 Месяц назад

      btw the hardest chaos encounter is by far the heroic one, it can be lose all arcana for 11 encounters got that yesterday

  • @alextheonewarrior
    @alextheonewarrior Месяц назад +6

    Hexes felt very good on one particular run I had, sister blades + double omega special shot for +20 mana, hook blades, straight shot blades, aphrodite 200% special boost, + chaos 80% special boost, with the total eclipse + immunity hex, I was able to instantly charge up my hex with slowed down 40 mana specials, 200 mana capacity, and 50 mana regen per sec with apollo.
    Chronos went down a phase with 2 bursts from the blades and the hex just meant I was invincible for half the battle on top of it.
    I ended up losing because of the bug that makes you lose your dash and sprint though. Cant do much when he hits you for 999 lmao
    I really hope they don't go for a cheap "haha the old protag is now your enemy but evil!!11!1!1" these devs are extremely creative

  • @theformation3781
    @theformation3781 Месяц назад +53

    Hexes imo are still underrated, the issue really is that:
    a) the meta seems to be low mana consumption builds just doing as good or even better than high consumption builds so they kind of happen too rarely to shine. This imo really is in part coz the mana regen boons apart from 2-3 (hera and hestia, zeus debatable) are very odd or underpowered, so you can't go balls to the walls mana drain unless you spec into it.
    b) and this really needs fixing because a lot of rooms just feel ass because of it, but minor find chambers like ash/psyche/bones are too goddamn common and completely take up all available choices instead of doors being split between minor and major finds, so when finally a choice between 2 major finds happens, hex usually gets skipped coz you're god boon starved and need to complete your build instead of level up your hexes, which is extremely annoying. I really wish they either include the hex/centaur heart/pom in that pool so you don't get the meta currency options hoarding all two/three doors.
    So you usually only get to see the level 1 hex instead of the ultimate forms and it just sucks coz they have so much to offer. Dark side can let you put your attack boon on your rapid-fire attack, or make your cast always be omega while in that form, lunar ray becomes a 3k+ damage crystal beam, total eclipse becomes a 3k+ damage AOE that makes you invulnerable, and there's just a lot of cool stuff that we don't get to experience coz of the game's RNG in the first two floors really stifling choices so you HAVE to go for gods when offered

    • @BartlebyScrivener-oz6mk
      @BartlebyScrivener-oz6mk Месяц назад +7

      I would love to see small "path of stars" pickups in the minor find tables, like how you can get them in mourning fields. At least as a late game incantation, I ran out of meta resource sinks a while ago.

    • @theformation3781
      @theformation3781 Месяц назад +5

      @@BartlebyScrivener-oz6mk perhaps even an incant which gives you small path of stars when you pick up minor finds, like how hades 1 late game you could get useful stuff like rerolls from keys etc, that'd be nice

    • @michael_krueger
      @michael_krueger Месяц назад +3

      Splitting decisions between minor and major finds wouldn't make sense because you would take the major find pretty much every time. That isn't a very compelling decision.

    • @JustSomeoneRandom1324
      @JustSomeoneRandom1324 Месяц назад +6

      @@michael_krueger I do think they're onto something with minor find hex tho.
      Acquiring it as a major find, but then having upgrades be minor ones that are a little more common makes Hex able to better compete as an item

    • @E_D___
      @E_D___ Месяц назад

      c) To many of the hexes are useless against bosses (chronos especially).
      d) imo, to hard to max without the keepsake on (and having the keepsake doesn't make it spawn, you can equip it and never see it).
      In Hadas 1 you could have gotten some max HP or gold from recourses - maybe giving 1 star point would work? (Anyhow, I agree that there are to many of them. To many runs getting only 1-2 boons the first zone)

  • @TK621why
    @TK621why Месяц назад +8

    I think for the other surface biomes its probably going to be Mountain Ascent and then actual Olympus with the gods for the final area, would be pretty cool to actually meet them in game. (also would love the Oracles as a special meet in a mountain biome as a way to manipulate the final boss like Hades)

  • @temtempo13
    @temtempo13 Месяц назад +5

    I would bet anything that Charybdis is just a miniboss and that the first two zones are going to be Ephyra and the Rift of Thessaly, basically unchanged except for minor tweaks. It doesn't make sense for them to release Charybdis as an "unfinished" boss fight, it doesn't make sense to move the Eris fight off the shore when they've already designed that arena, and it doesn't make sense to have the 3rd biome be "more ships sailing across the Rift, again" when the trek up Olympus and confronting Chronos's siege could easily cover two biomes.
    Every single theory like "The Rift will be the 3rd biome" is bonkers. They already have a perfect transition from Ephyra's city center to Polyphemus's field to the docks just beyond (Polyphemus even has dialogue about working on the docks) -- how would they squeeze another biome in there, and why would they bother?

    • @E_D___
      @E_D___ Месяц назад +1

      Those theories give me the same feeling of the "what if Ares/Headmistress are evil?!" Theories.
      We don't really have much to go on and theories about - so the only theories are crazy

    • @temtempo13
      @temtempo13 Месяц назад +2

      @@E_D___ At least "Hecate is secretly evil!", while it wouldn't make sense, wouldn't force them to completely rework the transitions that are already in Early Access! And it does tie into the questionable aspects of Melinoe's task (what are the implications of reinstating the Fates for free will; what does it mean for Melinoe that she's basically been raised as a weapon to be deployed against Chronos; etc.), threads that I imagine will be explored in the full game.
      But yeah, I absolutely don't see "Hecate was a bad guy!!", that's so contrary to what we know and Supergiant's approach to storytelling.

  • @belseonikiv6785
    @belseonikiv6785 Месяц назад +2

    The hammer wombo combo of taking longer to pick up and idle skulls attacking adds a lot of extra damgae. It takes 2.5 seconds for the skulls to become recoverable, so the added damage really adds up, as well as intentionally leaving a skull or 2 for enemies to run across like the biters so you can obliterate them. Probably old news for you at this point, given the patch date, and I'm just an enjoyer, not a speed guy.

  • @frenzberry
    @frenzberry Месяц назад +3

    I found this build day one, I would probably argue it’s the best easy build in the game, considering all you need for it to work is Aspect of Mel + Aphro’s attack pommed a few times. Yes, there’s a few things you’d want in addition like Secret Crush or the extra skulls hammer, but with the two parts, it’s pretty good.
    i would never argue this is the best build right now, but it is by far best easiest build considering just how little you need for it to work and work well. and without the requirement for **THE** hammer to make it a busted build (staff’s machine gun build), it just makes it that much better

  • @whatzittooyah9182
    @whatzittooyah9182 Месяц назад +9

    With the implication that Nemesis takes a different path along the run from Mel, I do think a co-op mode could be feasible, with P2 being Nem. I definitely think they should prioritize and fine tune the single player experience though. If they wanna do a co-op mode it should be a DLC a year or two after 1.0. I want Supergiant to really take their time with the game.

  • @isopodshuffle
    @isopodshuffle Месяц назад +1

    so far all my best Medea runs have been sprint/cast builds, where i mostly use the skulls for extra burst damage as i run around

  • @NorSkruf
    @NorSkruf Месяц назад +2

    You can get a 2nd hammer from the Hermes shop on the surface, but I've only had it happen twice so far.
    Seems to be a very low chance.

  • @adaephon
    @adaephon Месяц назад

    For a fun super casual build I love the Melinöe aspect skull, Aphrodite attack, the +2 shells hammer which adds to the base power buff, and then the finishing piece is getting her duo with Posiden. You're just able to nuke people without having to get in danger range, and the you absolutely melt bosses.

  • @conorhannon3352
    @conorhannon3352 Месяц назад +2

    honestly i can't even picture how they could structure the rest of the surface without going back and changing a lot of dialogue, since there's a ton of lines that reference the rift being right after ephyra and mount olympus being right after eris. they could absolutely split olympus into two biomes (which i think could be cool as hell of an idea) but otherwise i don't see how it could happen without rewriting stuff

    • @lookalike4805
      @lookalike4805 Месяц назад +1

      Wouldn't be the First time theyve done... During Hades 1 Early Access they went back and rerecorded every line with the word "Lava" in it because the Correct Word for Lava before it Surfaces is called *Magma*

  • @ameertoefy2192
    @ameertoefy2192 Месяц назад +1

    Would be really cool to see co-op done like a race. We've seen npc can take doors away from you so why not have another player running alongside you in a different route.
    The risk of running fast would be fighting a potentially double hp boss by yourself

  • @Xaos_
    @Xaos_ Месяц назад

    I really liked Medea with Aphro as well, since dashing into enemies causes all the shells to fire into the enemy you dashed into

  • @mataocantariti5680
    @mataocantariti5680 Месяц назад

    What do you think of appolo attack on skulls ? (may be I like big explosions a little too much...)

  • @Purgingcrab
    @Purgingcrab Месяц назад +1

    The skulls are really cool design

  • @riteshmishra3773
    @riteshmishra3773 Месяц назад +14

    Do try the Aspect of Medea, it's kind of Beowulf 2.0, charge all attacks and then use special to clash into the enemy, it triggers even if it's not time for it to trigger

    • @EllieFeyFox
      @EllieFeyFox Месяц назад

      Was about to come comment this myself lol.

    • @axllow3914
      @axllow3914 Месяц назад +3

      He's already tried that I believe, the videos are quite behind the stream rn, they're all still previous patch.

    • @sglied1320
      @sglied1320 Месяц назад +1

      Oh is this how you use them? I messed around a little, but it wasn’t clicking.

    • @riteshmishra3773
      @riteshmishra3773 Месяц назад

      @@axllow3914 oh nice, gotta wait then ig

    • @riteshmishra3773
      @riteshmishra3773 Месяц назад +1

      @@sglied1320 yeap it looks like it works like that, even got Chronos with it, it was strong with Aphrodite.

  • @SayShelo
    @SayShelo Месяц назад

    Charybdis destroying parts of the stage would be interesting and a nice tie in to what she can really do

  • @sh.walker
    @sh.walker Месяц назад +1

    Medea feels so good with Aphrodite attack and apollo special

  • @davidwilliama.7296
    @davidwilliama.7296 Месяц назад

    Was this weapon always available to unlock or was it recently added? I didn't see anything in the update about it, but I hadn't seen it until today. I don't have the resources for it yet though.

  • @sglied1320
    @sglied1320 Месяц назад

    For a fun omega attack build you get the hammer that fires all you shells at once. Then you drop all the missiles at once like in hades 1.

  • @francesgardner7070
    @francesgardner7070 Месяц назад

    I really like mom aspect for skull so far bc you can build up a pretty long special and pair it with a strong boon. also I seem to be invincible while using special idk if that’s unique to the aspect tho

  • @msadventurecomedy
    @msadventurecomedy Месяц назад

    22:04 "I don't know if she can give me rock" Haelian negging the goddess of love and beauty

  • @rattyxoxo7397
    @rattyxoxo7397 Месяц назад +4

    If Zag is going to be playable in any way, I think the most interesting way would be to use the two protagonists to deal with the two routes - the surface and the underworld. Say the final boss of the surface is the Fates, I think there could be a point where Chronos heals them using his time powers from the depths of Tartarus, at which point Zagreus would arrive to fight one phase of Chronos (likely with a preset build of boons) which would then allow Mel to finish off the Fates. Giving Zagreus a little cameo fight for fan service in the middle without needing to either include all of his weapons or have him use Mel’s weaponry while still letting Melinoe have her two phase final boss seems like a good option to appease fans who want playable Zag while not taking away from Mel’s final boss. The only issue I can imagine is that having a Zag fight with a specific set of boons and weapon every single time in the middle of Mel’s highly variable final boss (because she has weapons/aspects/hammers/boons etc.) might make his side of the fight seem like a chore to redo that chops up a more exciting fight, but this could also just be a first clear thing, and have it be optional whether to do the Zag fight or not on subsequent runs?

  • @reboot3332
    @reboot3332 Месяц назад +4

    Hera's special on skull is AMAZING. Its huge room clear and on bosses with ads, like Polyphemus, you can delete their health bar since it takes 30% of dmg for every enemy that has it. She's becoming one of my favorite gods as the difficulty gets out of control.

    • @TheSeldomRare
      @TheSeldomRare Месяц назад +1

      Yeah I absolutely love Hera too
      Its so good with any AoE weapon
      My favorite is with the Axe and its charged spins
      It just clears every group of enemies in an instant

  • @joshzaid8589
    @joshzaid8589 Месяц назад

    also for the charybdis thing, in the myth charybdis and scylla kinda come together, so both of them being the second boss would be great lol

  • @Maximus-40k
    @Maximus-40k Месяц назад +3

    Zag aspect on skulls as bloodstones

  • @HerMi.T
    @HerMi.T Месяц назад

    If I am right. Medea is very similar to Beowulf. Because those bombs also detonated on impact not just after 3 seconds. So with that we can play it like Beowulf.

  • @FateBringsMe2U
    @FateBringsMe2U Месяц назад

    I tried using Aspect of Medea last night and it felt so awkward to use. Using it like beowolf's shield felt right but when I got to chronos I really relied on Zeus cast for reliable damage.

  • @OhNoTheFace
    @OhNoTheFace Месяц назад

    Heracles when he is angry sounds like Garrosh from wow haha

  • @gabrielladias420
    @gabrielladias420 Месяц назад

    I recently found a strong-in-concept, weak-in-practice but SUPER FUN combo, which is demeter sprint+cast with the Zeus infusion (all damage minimum 30). it affects each instance of sprint damage and cast storms! IT'S NOT GOOD. But it's winnable!

  • @LucyVi_
    @LucyVi_ Месяц назад +2

    Multiplayer with a camera like in super smash bros could work
    What if the last weapon is a lyre? A Zag Aspect would make sense with that one.

  • @Killerdroid
    @Killerdroid Месяц назад

    Aspect of Medea is just an updated Beowulf I kinda dig it

  • @ghostcritic8508
    @ghostcritic8508 Месяц назад

    I love aspect of medea and play beach ball and go zooming around like WEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

  • @parkermacneil5523
    @parkermacneil5523 Месяц назад +1

    I think Mount Olympus will involve us climbing the mountain and trying to cleave through the siege.
    I think Ares will show up there similar to how Artemis, Heracles, and Nemesis do in other biomes. No idea about the boss though.

    • @parkermacneil5523
      @parkermacneil5523 Месяц назад

      @@phaerlax That's exactly what I was thinking for Dionysus myself, he'd be the room with the person in it and his boons will be different drinks with varying effects.

  • @ivanniothemannio
    @ivanniothemannio Месяц назад

    I think Ares will play a big part in the Olympus path, one way or another

  • @xelil.
    @xelil. Месяц назад +1

    anyone else miss him clearing his throat at the start of a video? xd

  • @swed_
    @swed_ Месяц назад

    can someone explain to me the choice of the aspect? If he wanna play a melee build with aphrodite, why this one better than medea?

  • @Sheamu5
    @Sheamu5 Месяц назад

    Thinking about it, fighting Zag could be really awesome, imagine he's the one assaulting Olympus, controlled or manipulated by Chronos.

  • @IndieEnthusiast
    @IndieEnthusiast Месяц назад

    What is the name of the song that starts playing at 2:54 ?

  • @iunacosta6620
    @iunacosta6620 Месяц назад

    My frist clear was with Medea: Apollo on attack, Hammer for using all skulls once and I cruised with something on special for damage. The 3 skulls explode at once hitting the special, plays as shield Hades 1

  • @DrMorganstien
    @DrMorganstien Месяц назад +7

    also thought there were way less poms around, and then I realized a couple days ago that there isn't an arcana card equivalent of the green mirror 'dark foresight' that lowers the chances of meta currency and ups the chances for poms and obols. I'm wondering if there's gonna be a flip side of the cards in 1.0

    • @lookalike4805
      @lookalike4805 Месяц назад

      I mean you can just use Fated Authority to change those Rewards. 👀

    • @DrMorganstien
      @DrMorganstien Месяц назад +1

      @@lookalike4805 it turns ash or psyche into poms?

    • @lookalike4805
      @lookalike4805 Месяц назад +1

      Nevermind... There is a Card that does that but it Doesn't use *Fated Authority* ....
      Its called *The Artificer* and you can only use it 3 Times Max 😱

    • @DrMorganstien
      @DrMorganstien Месяц назад

      @@lookalike4805 thanks for the heads up

    • @iaxacs3801
      @iaxacs3801 Месяц назад +1

      Tarot cards do have an opposite meaning when reversed. Theyll probably do something with that

  • @DragN_H3art
    @DragN_H3art Месяц назад

    I once had Rare Volcanic Flourish, got Family Trade, then got Zeus Special and Volcanic Flourish again and ended up with a Heroic +14 Heph Special that only has 2s CD

  • @nikkothegoblin
    @nikkothegoblin Месяц назад

    Man I struggle with the skulls so hard. Even maxed medea, heroic well pommed aphro attack, growing skulls hammer, and two chaos attack boons still felt disappointing and weak, outpaced by geyser ring at second level in dps. The second I got to fields of mourning it went frok kinda good to barely effective

    • @haihuynh8772
      @haihuynh8772 Месяц назад

      Try using the charged special? You are invulnerable while flying and it deals insane damage.

  • @AcraViolet
    @AcraViolet Месяц назад

    But SG did make a coop/splitscreen in Pyre. So there's always hope!

  • @aaravkonidena4850
    @aaravkonidena4850 Месяц назад

    It would be cool if the new zone is the “Aether” which would be a direct contrast to the underworld’s Erebus. It would be a cool idea if all the zones from the surface and underworld had a contrasting counterpart. We have above and below the ocean (rift vs Oceanus), and we could have Aether vs Erebus, but Idk how the others would match lol

    • @aaravkonidena4850
      @aaravkonidena4850 Месяц назад

      Aether could also be the last zone because in mythology, he was the “upper sky” or the sky that surrounded the gods, so potentially Olympus itself is inside

  • @pegab21
    @pegab21 Месяц назад

    I have a guess that Ares will be the last boss in the surface

  • @silverballs8307
    @silverballs8307 Месяц назад +3

    With the focus on the Golden Age and the various sins of the Olympians i wonder if Prometheus might be a boss in one of the above ground biomes.
    In the same vain I bet Dora's story is going to be very important if not plot wise then thematically.
    Appreciate the vid, thanks👍

    • @BartlebyScrivener-oz6mk
      @BartlebyScrivener-oz6mk Месяц назад +1

      It'd be hilarious if Prometheus was like "enlightenment was a mistake return to monke"

  • @LSDon-gs7bz
    @LSDon-gs7bz Месяц назад

    I've family traded out of a scorch special and Into a heroic posiden that ended up being op at lvl seven lol

  • @malikhittam1440
    @malikhittam1440 Месяц назад

    Please do a meme run with apollo poseidon duo boon. Its such a unique and funky boon and want to see if you can make it viable

  • @petarbuglov8532
    @petarbuglov8532 Месяц назад

    I'm honestly fine with Zagreus not being featured in this game. His game was Hades 1. He can't be on the surface due to the lineage curse, and also Cerberus isn't brainwashed by Cronos, he's affected by the shades in the fields of mourning. I honestly don't see how he could be a boss here in a way that makes sense, Hermes and the other gods probably would have seen him leading the siege.
    Imo it would be somewhat disappointing to have Zag as a boss and agree with the one person in chat who said it would be lame. It's an overdone cliche (brainwashed/possessed good guy) and would be pretty boring.

  • @pedroricardo23
    @pedroricardo23 Месяц назад

    what if Chronos just banishes Mel to the past to fight Zag in the Underworld? He would think that she is just one of Hades defenses to shades trying to leave and would consequently fight her.

  • @stevenneiman1554
    @stevenneiman1554 Месяц назад

    I feel like there's going to be a high-impact traitor, but Zag just feels unfitting. Yeah he would be impactful for the player, but it wouldn't feel like Zag. Ooh, maybe Ares. He's been suspiciously absent, and I think he strikes a nice balance of powerful and threatening, making sense as a traitor, and being at least a little bit of a gut punch since he was a core boon giver in 1. Only issue is that thematically he would be a bit redundant when there's already a bloodthirsty war god turned traitor in Eris.
    For the final boss, I'm going to guess another Titan, possibly Atlas or, if they want to play up the moral ambiguity a bit, Prometheus.
    As for Zagreus, my personal speculation is that he, along with all the other people we saw in time out in the flashback, are imprisoned in Zag's room, and there's something we can do to chip away at their prisons, eventually releasing them one by one to come offer some sort of support in the Crossroads. The Fates are not among them though, you have to do something else to rescue them.

  • @Saracen93
    @Saracen93 Месяц назад

    I’m hoping for Chiron in the next zone. Either as a boss or ally (story room.) He’s very tied to Achilles and even Heracles. Also probably gonna be a hit with the furries lol

  • @MrBoborawr09
    @MrBoborawr09 Месяц назад

    I got the speed run build 1st try w legendary never seen bosses die so fast

  • @VivBrodock
    @VivBrodock Месяц назад +1

    Zag attacking olympus doesn't really make sense, the surface world kills him.

  • @travislubbeck316
    @travislubbeck316 Месяц назад

    There wouldn’t be a zag aspect because those were infernal arms. These are nocturnal arms

  • @darrengaroutte7744
    @darrengaroutte7744 Месяц назад

    I would think the final boss on the surface would either be Atlas or Uranus. Atlas was the other Titan who got the most screwed over during the Titanomachy, being forced to hold up the earth and the sky. Uranus would be a mirror to Chronos as he is the father of the Titans and Chronos like Zues after him led a revolt that overturned the heavens. In some versions of the mythology, Chronos sliced off Uranus's manhood and tossed it into the sea which gave birth to Aphrodite and created sea foam.

  • @someoneontheinternet4518
    @someoneontheinternet4518 Месяц назад

    I think theres a decent shance the surface is only 3 regions considering the amount of dialogue about the docks in the Polyphemus fight, and the fact that olympus seems to be after Eris. Hope this isnt the case but yeah possibly!

    • @temtempo13
      @temtempo13 Месяц назад

      I think there's definitely enough space for them to add two more biomes: one for the trek up to the peak, and then a final zone where you work your way through Chronos's besieging forces, or possibly through the outskirts of Olympus itself. That would fit the pattern of the fourth biome being shorter but more intense.

    • @E_D___
      @E_D___ Месяц назад

      I would be shocked if it will have only 3 zones - it would make it very hard to balance the scaling of your power.
      You have 4 zones down - enough time to get to power X.
      If you have only 3 zones up - you would finish your runs without finishing your build, or they will have to make 1 of the zones longer.

  • @gijsvandergracht8000
    @gijsvandergracht8000 Месяц назад

    But Charybdis is so easy to beat though. Maybe it becomes a boss if the current form is only phase 1 and they add a phase 2 where you go more close up to fight the main guy

  • @maxwithanaxe8098
    @maxwithanaxe8098 Месяц назад

    I've been playing for quite a bit but have only seen the 1 Dark. How do I get the 3 more dark for 30 grasp?

    • @johnserranovoices
      @johnserranovoices Месяц назад +1

      Just gotta keep looking in the Chaos realm. It took me a while but I got them eventually

    • @lookalike4805
      @lookalike4805 Месяц назад

      Its funny because After I got the 4th and Final Dark I needed... They Started Spawning more Often.... I already have 3 Spare Darks. 👀

    • @maxwithanaxe8098
      @maxwithanaxe8098 Месяц назад

      You mean Chaos just gives them to you? They're being really stingy with me even after 75+ runs now

    • @johnserranovoices
      @johnserranovoices Месяц назад

      @@maxwithanaxe8098 they drop as random pickup resources in the Chaos realm. Same as flowers in other places. But it's pretty rare.

    • @maxwithanaxe8098
      @maxwithanaxe8098 Месяц назад +1

      Thanks, just found another one. The spawn rate is insane though

  • @sleeplesstime
    @sleeplesstime Месяц назад

    Are you feeling well now, Haelian? In previous videos you said you were sick. Also how come you don't have the update about not needing the specific tools anymore yet?

  • @joaovmlsilva3509
    @joaovmlsilva3509 Месяц назад

    I hate Scylla so much when I'm with melee

  • @reboot3332
    @reboot3332 Месяц назад +2

    I realized that the timer has to be completely reworked or removed IMO. I tried doing an axe run on 16 fear and it was impossible with the timer. Took the timer off, and was able to win the run. The problem is the timer runs at normal time when you channel and you HAVE to channel with this weapon to win.

    • @lookalike4805
      @lookalike4805 Месяц назад

      I dont even know why people are Doing High Fear Runs anyway..... the more of those Vows you Enable.. the less Fun the Game Becomes.... 🤔

    • @DoppelgangerTH
      @DoppelgangerTH Месяц назад +1

      ​@@lookalike4805 that's called challenging yourself

    • @reboot3332
      @reboot3332 Месяц назад +3

      Another thing too is the Revenant vow where you have to collect the souls or the enemies respawn. If they landed right next to you that is one thing but they get into corners sometimes and hard spots to reach which massively adds to the timer.

    • @E_D___
      @E_D___ Месяц назад

      ​@@lookalike4805 a) to grind the weapon levels
      b) cause why not? Sometimes it is fun to make things hard and challenging

    • @lookalike4805
      @lookalike4805 Месяц назад

      @DoppelgangerTH
      Im already Challenged.... I just don't want to get Destroyed.
      @E_D___
      Its already Hard and Challenging... The Vows just make it Worse.... It Would be Interesting if there was some Way to Exploit the System like you could in *Transistor* but Hades definition Of "Challenge" is just Disabling Mechanics. it was Lazy in Hades 1 and it's Lazy in Hades 2. 🤔

  • @lookalike4805
    @lookalike4805 Месяц назад

    How do you Activate all 25 Arcanas Simultaneously ?
    The most I could Manage was 23 🤔

    • @temtempo13
      @temtempo13 Месяц назад

      You can't: there's a few mutually exclusive arcana.
      "Activate no more than two cards that share a cost" is exclusive with "activate at least three cards that share a cost."
      "Activate any row of cards" is exclusive with "activate no more than 3 cards."
      Also activating all the non-Awakened cards would cost 66 grasp, and I'm pretty sure Grasp caps out at 30 for now?

    • @lookalike4805
      @lookalike4805 Месяц назад

      @temtempo13
      Ive been using *The Judgement* to Activate as man cards as Possible.
      "Activate no more than Three Cards - After each Guardian... Activate 5 Random Cards.*
      Combine it with the Keepsake that Activates 1 card and you can have 23....
      *Circe* has a Boon that can activate another Card but you can't Encounter her in the Underworld 😭
      I feel like it's Possible.... I just need some Way of Starting with 7 Cards instead of 6 🤔

    • @temtempo13
      @temtempo13 Месяц назад

      @@lookalike4805 Oh whoa, I had no idea The Judgement scaled that way. That's nuts!

    • @temtempo13
      @temtempo13 Месяц назад

      @@lookalike4805 Yeah, having thought about it, I think it caps at 24 for now... but it should be 25 as soon as the Surface has its final two biomes added, assuming you're lucky enough to meet Circe and get the right Boon from her!
      There's no way to activate just 3 cards and still start with 7 total, I'm pretty sure I can logicaly prove. That would require 3 "Awakened" cards, and there's no way to get 3 by only activating 3 other cards.
      There are 5 other Awakened cards...
      "Activate cards with costs from 1-5 is impossible," leaving 4 more.
      "Activate all cards in any other row" is likewise impossible, leaving 3 more.
      And "Activate no more than 2 cards with the same cost" plus "Activate 3 cards with the same cost" are mutually exclusive, meaning you can only start with 2 more Awakened cards.
      So you start with, at best, 6 cards active, get 15 more from the Arcana and 3 more from the Keepsake, for a total of 24...
      Still, good luck to you when they release the final biomes!! You can do it!

    • @lookalike4805
      @lookalike4805 Месяц назад +1

      @temtempo13
      Actually I think I found a way that might Work but it's Heavily RNG Based.... Instead of trying to use *Judgement* to Activate The Cards.... You can use The Keepsake (Crystal Figurine) to Activate *Judgement.*
      Here's what you do.... Activate as Many Cards as Possible (you need a Minimum of 14 for it to Work) doesn't matter which Cards... The Starting Number is all that Matters....
      From there... Equip the *Crystal Figurine* at Rank 3 and Defeat *Hecate* and pray that *Judgement* is the Card that gets Activated.... This will bring you Up to 15 Cards ...
      Defeating Scylla will Activate 5Cards and Defeating Cerberes will Activate another 5....
      That's all 25 Cards by the time you reach Chronos....
      Unfortunately I'm 10 Runs in and *Judgement* refuses to Activate 😭
      I'm Considering Restarting a new Save so that I can strategically leave 9 Cards Unupgraded so that the *Crystal Figurine* only Rolls *Judgement* and nothing Else (The Keepsake Awakens the Card that Matches it's Rank). 👀

  • @Asturjgm
    @Asturjgm Месяц назад

    people saying that fighting zag would be boring have clearly never played devil may cry

    • @lookalike4805
      @lookalike4805 Месяц назад

      I played the Last 3 Games and Vergil is a kind of a Crappy Boss.... Dante was even Worse in Devil May Cry 4 because Nero is so God Damn Weak by Comparison. 🤔

  • @Moon_Bat2.0
    @Moon_Bat2.0 Месяц назад

    maybe someone can help me. In Hades 1, I have fps drawdowns and some lags, while in hades 2 everything is perfect. Any ideas?

    • @lookalike4805
      @lookalike4805 Месяц назад

      Might be an issue with the Rendering API... Hades 1 runs on Direct X 11 and Hades 2 runs on Direct X 12.... The latter has Significantly less CPU Overhead so it Runs at a Steady 75 FPS no matter how many Special Effects Cover my Screen. 👀

    • @Moon_Bat2.0
      @Moon_Bat2.0 Месяц назад

      @@lookalike4805 if I understand correctly, I cannot influence this in any way?

    • @lookalike4805
      @lookalike4805 Месяц назад

      Its just a Theory... There could be any number of Reasons why it's Inconsistent 😱

  • @tanewby3861
    @tanewby3861 Месяц назад

    Can anyone tell me what power actually does in this game

    • @ZeeFreak
      @ZeeFreak Месяц назад +2

      increases the base damage before multiplicative/percentage increases apply

    • @champiggyfrm_pig5271
      @champiggyfrm_pig5271 Месяц назад +2

      Flat dmg increase

    • @tanewby3861
      @tanewby3861 Месяц назад +1

      @@ZeeFreak thank you

    • @tanewby3861
      @tanewby3861 Месяц назад

      @@champiggyfrm_pig5271 thank you

  • @ukiluser
    @ukiluser Месяц назад

    I feel like Eris is harder than Chronos

  • @michaelorrill1728
    @michaelorrill1728 Месяц назад

    Algorithms

  • @na7han7
    @na7han7 Месяц назад

    Hope they release it for ios too 😭

  • @capellozapellini6074
    @capellozapellini6074 Месяц назад

    The Hex system is so unbalanced, why would I ever not pick moon water

    • @lookalike4805
      @lookalike4805 Месяц назад

      I feel like the Hex Disparity is just a Symptom of an Entirely Different Issue...
      Me thinks the Real issue is getting Blind Sided by Overly Tanky Bosses that Deal so much God Damn Damage.... Moon water is just how we decided to Deal with it. 👀

    • @lookalike4805
      @lookalike4805 Месяц назад

      I think Supergiant unbalanced it on purpose.... Moon Water being an Outlier for beginners isn't it an issue... Its meant to be the Hades equivalents of Dark Soul's *Ring of Favour and Protection*
      The Problem is this Doesn't Change even After you've Maxed out all Aspects and Arcanas and Incantations and Keepsakes.... Moon Water continues to better even for High Fear Runs.... So I think Super Giant Underestimated healing on Command. 🤔

    • @haihuynh8772
      @haihuynh8772 Месяц назад

      Because moon nuke can take out Scylla, Roxy, and Jetty all at once, moon leap is free additional DPS, moon summon gives you minions that deal even more damage than you do, and the likes. They all have their use cases.

    • @lookalike4805
      @lookalike4805 Месяц назад

      @haihuynh8772
      None of the other Hexes can match the DPS of my Build even without Olympian Boons.
      I don't think I've seen any Case where the Summon killing Something at All....🤔 But that's to be Expected when the game is this Chaotic.
      Morph Hex does nothing to Bosses.
      Moon Water is OP because healing in General is Scarce there's legit only one way you can build for it without Relying on RNG.

    • @haihuynh8772
      @haihuynh8772 Месяц назад

      @@lookalike4805 Because they're just free safe DPS, not your main source of DPS. All of them let you deal some damage safely.

  • @FaeFayore
    @FaeFayore Месяц назад +2

    So, since theories are being shared:
    Fates are gonna be hidden in Hypnos' dream, third/final area.
    Zagreus will be the Olympus boss, unlocking Athena, Ares, and Dionysus.
    10 runs against Zagreus will unlock him as a character, utilizing weapons differently from Mel.
    Defeating the Fates unlocks Zag's original weapons, being used differently by Mel.

  • @Ashouney
    @Ashouney Месяц назад

    If anything, skulls are underwhelming compared to other weapons…

    • @IAm.Messmer.Brother.Of.Malenia
      @IAm.Messmer.Brother.Of.Malenia Месяц назад +2

      you haven't played with them enough. i mopped up chronos with the skulls on fear 20 the other day

    • @E_D___
      @E_D___ Месяц назад

      Spam special - ignore the attack.
      You have I-frames while in your special, it charges fast, good dmg and huge AOE

    • @Ashouney
      @Ashouney Месяц назад

      @@IAm.Messmer.Brother.Of.Malenia which one is the best ?

    • @IAm.Messmer.Brother.Of.Malenia
      @IAm.Messmer.Brother.Of.Malenia Месяц назад +1

      @@E_D___ nah you use the attack as your stun bombs more or less and then you smash them with your omega special. then for quicker situations you pretty much play tennis with yourself. attack normal special through the enemy and repeat. it stunlocks everything that's not armored or a guardian boss

    • @IAm.Messmer.Brother.Of.Malenia
      @IAm.Messmer.Brother.Of.Malenia Месяц назад

      @@Ashouney it's hard to pick honestly. the melinoë aspect just ups your damage per spent shell but theyrr strong. the medea one is weird and your shells don't shoot out, they stick to you and you special into an enemy to make them explode. and my favorite the aspect of persephone which has a meter that allows you to do a really long omega special every so often. it can clear rooms in seconds 😆
      give em another shot, get aphrodite on the special and play around with them till you find a good playstyle. they can dish out extreme damage just like everything else, theyre just real unorthodox and different from the rest of them

  • @ryanfirestone6113
    @ryanfirestone6113 Месяц назад

    First?

  • @johnnymetonymic
    @johnnymetonymic Месяц назад

    Just got a good backstab build that literally did not work against Kronos. The attack omega, the only thing I was building, literally went too far and missed every single time. I tried it 50 times before I died. Done with this game af after that.

    • @MellowSquash
      @MellowSquash Месяц назад +1

      If it was the blades hammer dealing 400 in aoe they patched the bugfix

    • @BartlebyScrivener-oz6mk
      @BartlebyScrivener-oz6mk Месяц назад +1

      Can confirm they patched this recently. I tried the same build against him and noticed it worked way more consistently than in the past.

    • @E_D___
      @E_D___ Месяц назад +1

      Early Access being early access -
      I had one of the mermaids go invisible on me couple of days ago

  • @userxv
    @userxv Месяц назад

    I'm finding magic to be way too OP. I remember Hades I took a lot of skill to master and progress. But now, you just need Zeus' cast and very little effort to destroy everything. =/ hopefully they nerf magic and fix the dash

    • @lookalike4805
      @lookalike4805 Месяц назад

      I'm finding that Alot of Builds are OP agains every other Encounter but Weak versus Chronos. Either because he Just Straight Up Ignores certain mechanics (Like all Slow Downs) or he has so much God Damn HP That it doesn't Matter.
      If magic is going to get Nerfed then I would like to see Chronos Nerfed aswell.